My bad precioux....I think it said a witness said Prince admitted to taking 1-2 pain pills. I will look.

precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The search warrant states it was PRINCE that stated he took 1-2 percocets.

Seriously?!?! Can you please link me to that- I could've sworn KJ said "He took 1-2 pills" regardless-no one is going to OD on that minimal amount. I'm curious to see this in the warrant, and can't pull the link on my phone. Much appreciated if you can post the link Thanks!

According to the Star Tribune

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Paramedics scrambled to revive Prince on the tarmac, and he recovered after two shots of naloxone, an overdose antidote increasingly being used and often referred to by its brand name Narcan.

The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

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Investigators found six people at the death scene, including Andrew Kornfeld, who had arrived in the Twin Cities at 6 a.m. that day to meet with Prince and assess him for a drug dependency program run by his father, Dr. Howard Kornfeld. He told detectives that he had controlled substances in his backpack that he brought to help Prince, but would not have administered them without a doctor present. He said his father didn’t know that he had brought the medications.

Authorities found a pamphlet for Howard Kornfeld’s “Recovery Without Walls” program in Paisley Park’s Purple Rain room.

It’s unclear whether authorities are pursuing a case against Andrew Kornfeld. But William Mauzy, a prominent Minneapolis attorney representing him, said Monday that Andrew Kornfeld is protected from criminal charges by a Minnesota law that generally shields anyone seeking medical assistance for a person overdosing on opioids.

Mauzy said Kornfeld declined to comment Monday because of patient confidentiality.

It’s also uncertain whether investigators are examining the actions of Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg, who, according to the warrant affidavits, told detectives that he had treated Prince twice — April 7 and 20 of last year, and had issued a prescription for oxycodone, an opiate, under Johnson’s name to protect the star’s privacy.

But Amy Conners, Schulenberg’s attorney, said Monday that the doctor “never directly prescribed opioids to Prince, nor did he ever prescribe opioids to any other person with the intent that they would be given to Prince.”

Scare in Moline

While the records Monday provided scant new details about the investigation, they did show that Prince, an intensely private person, traveled under the name Peter Bravestrong to help conceal his identity.

That name was on a luggage tag during his trip to Atlanta to perform in concert the week before his death.

It was on the return trip to the Twin Cities that Prince’s private plane made an emergency stop in Moline, Ill., after the musician fell ill and passed out.

Paramedics scrambled to revive Prince on the tarmac, and he recovered after two shots of naloxone, an overdose antidote increasingly being used and often referred to by its brand name Narcan.

The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

The affidavits also showed that investigators have conducted interviews far and wide, and have pored over cellphone records and e-mail accounts.

Prince didn’t use a cellphone because he’d been hacked years earlier, and communicated by e-mail and by landline.

Authorities also searched the cellphone records of several associates, including Johnson, whose name was on the labels of drug bottles found at Paisley Park. In addition to managing Paisley Park in recent years, Johnson coordinated tour logistics, organized concerts and after-parties, and contacted Schulenberg to help Prince with his hip pain.

Johnson did not did not respond to a phone call Monday seeking comment. However, F. Clayton Tyler, his attorney, issued a statement: “After reviewing the search warrants and affidavits released today, we believe that it is clear that Kirk Johnson did not secure nor supply the drugs which caused Prince’s death.”

Records show investigators also interviewed singer Judith Hill on June 16, and later learned that she had been involved romantically with Prince since fall of 2014.

Hill said she communicated with Prince through an e-mail account set up under the name of one of Prince’s former managers.

Monday’s disclosures come as Prince’s relatives battle in Carver County District Court over his massive estate, which is estimated at $100 million to $300 million before taxes. Prince died without a will, and in the months since, dozens of people have come forward to make claims.

The list of heirs has yet to be finalized, but the judge handling the case has indicated that Prince’s sister and five half-siblings will likely inherit his fortune.

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OMG, that other new thread discussing the pills!! We don't need a half-dozen threads discussing the same topic!! That other thread has gone of the rails crazy!!

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince's people BROUGHT him into Prince's house. Andrew never even saw Prince alive. Andrew has stated that another Dr. was going to give Prince the suboxone( sp?), even if that wasn't the case, Andrew still didn't give Prince or anybody else, anything.

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I don't believe anybody will be charged in this case.

We don't know that...it is all speculation Who brought Prince into his house on the 20th? We really don't know when Andrew arrived at PP either

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PurpleD: I think Andrew arrived in Chanhassen at 6AM, or his arrival at the airport was 6AM. However, I have read conflicting reports because some say he arrived the night before and was staying at a hotel. Now, if he did indeed arrive at 6AM, and was heading over to PP by 9AM for the intervention thingy, there would really be no need for him to get a hotel room, especially with Prince's condition being an emergency....

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cloveringold85 said:

OMG, that other new thread discussing the pills!! We don't need a half-dozen threads discussing the same topic!! That other thread has gone of the rails crazy!!

I know. It's driving me nuts.

cloveringold85 said:

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PurpleD: I think Andrew arrived in Chanhassen at 6AM, or his arrival at the airport was 6AM. However, I have read conflicting reports because some say he arrived the night before and was staying at a hotel. Now, if he did indeed arrive at 6AM, and was heading over to PP by 9AM for the intervention thingy, there would really be no need for him to get a hotel room, especially with Prince's condition being an emergency....

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Maybe Andrew was thinking he'd be there a couple of days. I too have heard that he got into town at 6 am. He was at PP at 9 am

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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PurpleD: I think Andrew arrived in Chanhassen at 6AM, or his arrival at the airport was 6AM. However, I have read conflicting reports because some say he arrived the night before and was staying at a hotel. Now, if he did indeed arrive at 6AM, and was heading over to PP by 9AM for the intervention thingy, there would really be no need for him to get a hotel room, especially with Prince's condition being an emergency....

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Maybe Andrew was thinking he'd be there a couple of days. I too have heard that he got into town at 6 am. He was at PP at 9 am

He was there to help evaluate P to see if he was a good candidate for the program.

It was called Recovery Without Walls so it would have been on an out patient basis.

It could be that P didnt even know Andrew was coming.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

I don't know Precioux. I just pasted what was in the ST. But it does say this:

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The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

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Isn't that basically what ISLIJG said?

Maybe we need a thread for just the facts only. That way we can try to sort it all out. Instead of just speculations.

That's the truth ...

zenarose said:

If there was a thread strictly based on facts....it would be virtually empty.

Not to get off subject, but what is the Mirror room and Green room?

PennyPurple said:

Maybe we need a thread for just the facts only. That way we can try to sort it all out. Instead of just speculations.

We need to have a thread to just repost all of the news reports that gave this information.

zenarose said:

If there was a thread strictly based on facts....it would be virtually empty.

The truth here is the only facts we know are the man died of acute Fentanyl toxicity.

We have gotten information in small bits and they paint a very confused picture of what was told to the public at large.

I find it's sad that the family hasn't put out the truth. Not that they have to, but they could do such good if they did.

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Our brother died of....depression, addiction, AIDS, Alzheimer's, cancer...etc. And as his brothers and sisters stand together we are going to help the fight against this (these) disease's. We are going to stand up and fight this in Prince's name.

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Prince was a high profile celeb, the world turned purple the day he died. It would bring so much attention to whatever he was fighting and would bring awareness to the disease, what ever it may be. There would be no shame in that.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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PurpleD: I think Andrew arrived in Chanhassen at 6AM, or his arrival at the airport was 6AM. However, I have read conflicting reports because some say he arrived the night before and was staying at a hotel. Now, if he did indeed arrive at 6AM, and was heading over to PP by 9AM for the intervention thingy, there would really be no need for him to get a hotel room, especially with Prince's condition being an emergency....

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Maybe Andrew was thinking he'd be there a couple of days. I too have heard that he got into town at 6 am. He was at PP at 9 am

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I need to do some research, because I know I read somewhere that Andrew was there the night before and checked into his hotel. Now, why would someone check into a hotel if they have a person/patient, which just so happens to be PRINCE -- If they felt it was a medical emergency, you wouldn't be checking into no damn hotel -- you would go to PP, pronto!!

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I need to find out if Andrew got there that morning, at 6AM, or the night before.

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

According to the Star Tribune

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Paramedics scrambled to revive Prince on the tarmac, and he recovered after two shots of naloxone, an overdose antidote increasingly being used and often referred to by its brand name Narcan.

The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

...

Investigators found six people at the death scene, including Andrew Kornfeld, who had arrived in the Twin Cities at 6 a.m. that day to meet with Prince and assess him for a drug dependency program run by his father, Dr. Howard Kornfeld. He told detectives that he had controlled substances in his backpack that he brought to help Prince, but would not have administered them without a doctor present. He said his father didn’t know that he had brought the medications.

Authorities found a pamphlet for Howard Kornfeld’s “Recovery Without Walls” program in Paisley Park’s Purple Rain room.

It’s unclear whether authorities are pursuing a case against Andrew Kornfeld. But William Mauzy, a prominent Minneapolis attorney representing him, said Monday that Andrew Kornfeld is protected from criminal charges by a Minnesota law that generally shields anyone seeking medical assistance for a person overdosing on opioids.

Mauzy said Kornfeld declined to comment Monday because of patient confidentiality.

It’s also uncertain whether investigators are examining the actions of Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg, who, according to the warrant affidavits, told detectives that he had treated Prince twice — April 7 and 20 of last year, and had issued a prescription for oxycodone, an opiate, under Johnson’s name to protect the star’s privacy.

But Amy Conners, Schulenberg’s attorney, said Monday that the doctor “never directly prescribed opioids to Prince, nor did he ever prescribe opioids to any other person with the intent that they would be given to Prince.”

Scare in Moline

While the records Monday provided scant new details about the investigation, they did show that Prince, an intensely private person, traveled under the name Peter Bravestrong to help conceal his identity.

That name was on a luggage tag during his trip to Atlanta to perform in concert the week before his death.

It was on the return trip to the Twin Cities that Prince’s private plane made an emergency stop in Moline, Ill., after the musician fell ill and passed out.

Paramedics scrambled to revive Prince on the tarmac, and he recovered after two shots of naloxone, an overdose antidote increasingly being used and often referred to by its brand name Narcan.

The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

The affidavits also showed that investigators have conducted interviews far and wide, and have pored over cellphone records and e-mail accounts.

Prince didn’t use a cellphone because he’d been hacked years earlier, and communicated by e-mail and by landline.

Authorities also searched the cellphone records of several associates, including Johnson, whose name was on the labels of drug bottles found at Paisley Park. In addition to managing Paisley Park in recent years, Johnson coordinated tour logistics, organized concerts and after-parties, and contacted Schulenberg to help Prince with his hip pain.

Johnson did not did not respond to a phone call Monday seeking comment. However, F. Clayton Tyler, his attorney, issued a statement: “After reviewing the search warrants and affidavits released today, we believe that it is clear that Kirk Johnson did not secure nor supply the drugs which caused Prince’s death.”

Records show investigators also interviewed singer Judith Hill on June 16, and later learned that she had been involved romantically with Prince since fall of 2014.

Hill said she communicated with Prince through an e-mail account set up under the name of one of Prince’s former managers.

Monday’s disclosures come as Prince’s relatives battle in Carver County District Court over his massive estate, which is estimated at $100 million to $300 million before taxes. Prince died without a will, and in the months since, dozens of people have come forward to make claims.

The list of heirs has yet to be finalized, but the judge handling the case has indicated that Prince’s sister and five half-siblings will likely inherit his fortune.

• Read the unsealed Prince...documents

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Penny-I pulled the warrant. Your article is from the ST. The warrant states "according to witnesses interviewed, Prince admitted to taking 1-2pills". This was not from the "horses mouth"...this was from KJ, as I stated before. Also in your article it states "the affidavit said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet". Point being-NONE of this came from Prince...it all came from KJ. I'm not trying to be difficult, just wanting facts out there...and we're assuming the warrant is fact. As I said before- I have doubts pertaining to the pils being labeled Watson 853 on the warrant. It's inconsistencies where there should be none. They even had to scratch out his BIRTHDAY! LOL! They "transposed" those numbers. Originally they put 1978, scratched it out and hand wrote 1958, so this is not a stretch in my thinking Also,this ST article is apparently where we both read it took 2 Narcan shots to bring Prince back around. This is HIGHLY unusual, but absurd. There is no way in hell it would require 2 save shots because of anyone taking only 1-2 Percocets. Just ridiculous. No one woul OD on that amount anyway. Fentanyl only stays in the system up to 3 days max-SO,if the plane incident was Fentanyl (which yes, you can OD on 1 pill of THAT!), and he was clean until the 20th, the test that have been discussed claiming there was no Fentanyl in his system directly prior to his death would in fact be true because it leaves the system quickly. Edit to add: read ISLIJAG reply #300 in regards to the warrant....she said the same thing before even checking the warrant. Her quote was "my bad, precioux...I think it (the warrant)said a WITNESS said Prince admitted to taking 1-2 pills." She was basically spot on. Gotta love her Have a great night Precioux [Edited 5/25/17 21:03pm] [Edited 5/25/17 21:20pm]

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Okay, let's say those statements came from KJ and not Prince himself; given all the discrepencies in KJ's statements, how can we believe the warrant or the affidavit?

PennyPurple said:

I don't know Precioux. I just pasted what was in the ST. But it does say this:

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The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

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Isn't that basically what ISLIJG said?

My bad precioux....I think it said a witness said Prince admitted to taking 1-2 pain pills. I will look

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Yes, I read that also. Seems like Prince said it, himself.

PennyPurple said:

I find it's sad that the family hasn't put out the truth. Not that they have to, but they could do such good if they did.

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Our brother died of....depression, addiction, AIDS, Alzheimer's, cancer...etc. And as his brothers and sisters stand together we are going to help the fight against this (these) disease's. We are going to stand up and fight this in Prince's name.

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Prince was a high profile celeb, the world turned purple the day he died. It would bring so much attention to whatever he was fighting and would bring awareness to the disease, what ever it may be. There would be no shame in that.

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That would be wonderful if Prince's family would make a public statement, but they're not going to -- due to the ongoing investigation. Tyka gets annoyed with things that are being said about her late brother, but she has to realize all the controversy this has caused, not to mention all the grief his fans are going through. The media distorts the facts. Laura was on-point with something she said here the other day......The media is more concerned with getting clicks on the internet, rather than reporting the REAL news!!

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We have to face facts and realize we may never have the whole truth.

CNN Prince Documentary discusses circumstances surrounding Prince's death. Apparently, Andre thought the documentary was going to be about Prince's musical career, but it wasn't.

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http://blog.thecurrent.or...t-answers/

zenarose said:

If there was a thread strictly based on facts....it would be virtually empty.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

I find it's sad that the family hasn't put out the truth. Not that they have to, but they could do such good if they did.

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Our brother died of....depression, addiction, AIDS, Alzheimer's, cancer...etc. And as his brothers and sisters stand together we are going to help the fight against this (these) disease's. We are going to stand up and fight this in Prince's name.

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Prince was a high profile celeb, the world turned purple the day he died. It would bring so much attention to whatever he was fighting and would bring awareness to the disease, what ever it may be. There would be no shame in that.

I so agree with you, PennyPurple.

Prince brought a universe of people together, in music, love and passion for life.

We need to increase that positivity.. Prince would have wanted that...

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

According to the Star Tribune

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Paramedics scrambled to revive Prince on the tarmac, and he recovered after two shots of naloxone, an overdose antidote increasingly being used and often referred to by its brand name Narcan.

The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

...

Investigators found six people at the death scene, including Andrew Kornfeld, who had arrived in the Twin Cities at 6 a.m. that day to meet with Prince and assess him for a drug dependency program run by his father, Dr. Howard Kornfeld. He told detectives that he had controlled substances in his backpack that he brought to help Prince, but would not have administered them without a doctor present. He said his father didn’t know that he had brought the medications.

Authorities found a pamphlet for Howard Kornfeld’s “Recovery Without Walls” program in Paisley Park’s Purple Rain room.

It’s unclear whether authorities are pursuing a case against Andrew Kornfeld. But William Mauzy, a prominent Minneapolis attorney representing him, said Monday that Andrew Kornfeld is protected from criminal charges by a Minnesota law that generally shields anyone seeking medical assistance for a person overdosing on opioids.

Mauzy said Kornfeld declined to comment Monday because of patient confidentiality.

It’s also uncertain whether investigators are examining the actions of Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg, who, according to the warrant affidavits, told detectives that he had treated Prince twice — April 7 and 20 of last year, and had issued a prescription for oxycodone, an opiate, under Johnson’s name to protect the star’s privacy.

But Amy Conners, Schulenberg’s attorney, said Monday that the doctor “never directly prescribed opioids to Prince, nor did he ever prescribe opioids to any other person with the intent that they would be given to Prince.”

Scare in Moline

While the records Monday provided scant new details about the investigation, they did show that Prince, an intensely private person, traveled under the name Peter Bravestrong to help conceal his identity.

That name was on a luggage tag during his trip to Atlanta to perform in concert the week before his death.

It was on the return trip to the Twin Cities that Prince’s private plane made an emergency stop in Moline, Ill., after the musician fell ill and passed out.

Paramedics scrambled to revive Prince on the tarmac, and he recovered after two shots of naloxone, an overdose antidote increasingly being used and often referred to by its brand name Narcan.

The affidavits said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet.

Prince was documented as suffering from an opiate overdose, but the musician refused treatment at the hospital.

Later, at a meeting with medical professionals “to assess and address” health concerns, Prince admitted to taking one or two “pain pills” that night.

The affidavits also showed that investigators have conducted interviews far and wide, and have pored over cellphone records and e-mail accounts.

Prince didn’t use a cellphone because he’d been hacked years earlier, and communicated by e-mail and by landline.

Authorities also searched the cellphone records of several associates, including Johnson, whose name was on the labels of drug bottles found at Paisley Park. In addition to managing Paisley Park in recent years, Johnson coordinated tour logistics, organized concerts and after-parties, and contacted Schulenberg to help Prince with his hip pain.

Johnson did not did not respond to a phone call Monday seeking comment. However, F. Clayton Tyler, his attorney, issued a statement: “After reviewing the search warrants and affidavits released today, we believe that it is clear that Kirk Johnson did not secure nor supply the drugs which caused Prince’s death.”

Records show investigators also interviewed singer Judith Hill on June 16, and later learned that she had been involved romantically with Prince since fall of 2014.

Hill said she communicated with Prince through an e-mail account set up under the name of one of Prince’s former managers.

Monday’s disclosures come as Prince’s relatives battle in Carver County District Court over his massive estate, which is estimated at $100 million to $300 million before taxes. Prince died without a will, and in the months since, dozens of people have come forward to make claims.

The list of heirs has yet to be finalized, but the judge handling the case has indicated that Prince’s sister and five half-siblings will likely inherit his fortune.

• Read the unsealed Prince...documents

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Penny-I pulled the warrant. Your article is from the ST. The warrant states "according to witnesses interviewed, Prince admitted to taking 1-2pills". This was not from the "horses mouth"...this was from KJ, as I stated before. Also in your article it states "the affidavit said Johnson told doctors in Moline that Prince may have taken Percocet". Point being-NONE of this came from Prince...it all came from KJ. I'm not trying to be difficult, just wanting facts out there...and we're assuming the warrant is fact. As I said before- I have doubts pertaining to the pils being labeled Watson 853 on the warrant. It's inconsistencies where there should be none. They even had to scratch out his BIRTHDAY! LOL! They "transposed" those numbers. Originally they put 1978, scratched it out and hand wrote 1958, so this is not a stretch in my thinking

Also,this ST article is apparently where we both read it took 2 Narcan shots to bring Prince back around. This is HIGHLY unusual, but absurd. There is no way in hell it would require 2 save shots because of anyone taking only 1-2 Percocets. Just ridiculous. No one woul OD on that amount anyway. Fentanyl only stays in the system up to 3 days max-SO,if the plane incident was Fentanyl (which yes, you can OD on 1 pill of THAT!), and he was clean until the 20th, the test that have been discussed claiming there was no Fentanyl in his system directly prior to his death would in fact be true because it leaves the system quickly.



Edit to add: read ISLIJAG reply #300 in regards to the warrant....she said the same thing before even checking the warrant. Her quote was "my bad, precioux...I think it (the warrant)said a WITNESS said Prince admitted to taking 1-2 pills." She was basically spot on. Gotta love her


Have a great night

Precioux
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