and for shits and giggles.. add the instrumental extended Sign Of The Times that was played at the end of the movie. Also add the fabled extended version of The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker and maybe the created, but not released, remixes for I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man and Housequake.

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Beyond that... and actual concert (not the movie) and then there is the whole period between Parade and Sign Of The Times that could be used, although that might warrant a separate release entirely. A Crystal Factory or Dream Ball, if you will.

Sign is my favorite Prince record.

And it is begging to be remastered.

But there was so much material written and recorded between 1986-1987 that I just don't know what you would put on a Deluxe Edition besides the B-sides that have already been released on the Hits/The B-sides.

You can delve into Camille, Dream Factory or Crystal Ball, but those albums might be officially released someday in one way or another.

Parade would be cool to do, as it has a number of specific outtakes that are great and feel closely connected musically to the all of the official parade tracks.

In an ideal world WB would handle all things Prince from now on with passion and respect. They would hire some real expert to collect breath-taking material for fantastic deluxe-editions and some expert to remaster the album. But given what WB have chosen from the wealth of audio- and video-material that was and is available for the PR-deluxe-edition, I am almost sure that all things coming will qualify more or less as failures.

As far as marketing is concerned, I doubt very much that the "general public" is actually in need of a PR-deluxe-edition. Things have slowed down after the initial post mortem-rush and the "general public" is probably not even listening anymore to the one (and most times only) song it knows, PR.

Thus, people in charge at WB catalogue should rather concentrate on the wishes of fans and cater them with real quality re-releases. But, unfortunately, it is not an ideal world.

nonesuch said:

In an ideal world WB would handle all things Prince from now on with passion and respect. They would hire some real expert to collect breath-taking material for fantastic deluxe-editions and some expert to remaster the album. But given what WB have chosen from the wealth of audio- and video-material that was and is available for the PR-deluxe-edition, I am almost sure that all things coming will qualify more or less as failures.

As far as marketing is concerned, I doubt very much that the "general public" is actually in need of a PR-deluxe-edition. Things have slowed down after the initial post mortem-rush and the "general public" is probably not even listening anymore to the one (and most times only) song it knows, PR.

Thus, people in charge at WB catalogue should rather concentrate on the wishes of fans and cater them with real quality re-releases. But, unfortunately, it is not an ideal world.

Didn't Prince choose was was going to be on Purple Rain Deluxe? I thought he submitted everything to them two years ago.

Genesia said:

nonesuch said:

In an ideal world WB would handle all things Prince from now on with passion and respect. They would hire some real expert to collect breath-taking material for fantastic deluxe-editions and some expert to remaster the album. But given what WB have chosen from the wealth of audio- and video-material that was and is available for the PR-deluxe-edition, I am almost sure that all things coming will qualify more or less as failures.

As far as marketing is concerned, I doubt very much that the "general public" is actually in need of a PR-deluxe-edition. Things have slowed down after the initial post mortem-rush and the "general public" is probably not even listening anymore to the one (and most times only) song it knows, PR.

Thus, people in charge at WB catalogue should rather concentrate on the wishes of fans and cater them with real quality re-releases. But, unfortunately, it is not an ideal world.

Didn't Prince choose was was going to be on Purple Rain Deluxe? I thought he submitted everything to them two years ago.

Yes you are correct

mediumdry said:

besides, WB does not have the rights to the movie. Would be great if there was finally a proper concert release of the SOTT tour instead of that lipsync fiasco with those annoying segues..

Lipsync fiasco

The SOTT movie was critically acclaimed. Great stuff!

I would love a proper release of Crystal Ball as Prince envisioned it. The greatest album that never was.

paulludvig said:

mediumdry said:

besides, WB does not have the rights to the movie. Would be great if there was finally a proper concert release of the SOTT tour instead of that lipsync fiasco with those annoying segues..

Lipsync fiasco

The SOTT movie was critically acclaimed. Great stuff!

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Milli Vanilli was also critically acclaimed. Grammy and all.

Genesia said:

nonesuch said:

In an ideal world WB would handle all things Prince from now on with passion and respect. They would hire some real expert to collect breath-taking material for fantastic deluxe-editions and some expert to remaster the album. But given what WB have chosen from the wealth of audio- and video-material that was and is available for the PR-deluxe-edition, I am almost sure that all things coming will qualify more or less as failures.

As far as marketing is concerned, I doubt very much that the "general public" is actually in need of a PR-deluxe-edition. Things have slowed down after the initial post mortem-rush and the "general public" is probably not even listening anymore to the one (and most times only) song it knows, PR.

Thus, people in charge at WB catalogue should rather concentrate on the wishes of fans and cater them with real quality re-releases. But, unfortunately, it is not an ideal world.

Didn't Prince choose was was going to be on Purple Rain Deluxe? I thought he submitted everything to them two years ago.

I thought it was just the remaster he delivered, not sure about extra content.

mediumdry said:

paulludvig said:

Lipsync fiasco

The SOTT movie was critically acclaimed. Great stuff!

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Milli Vanilli was also critically acclaimed. Grammy and all.

Ur comparing Milli Vanilli to Prince... U just lost all credibility on that post right there.

feeluupp said:

mediumdry said:

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Milli Vanilli was also critically acclaimed. Grammy and all.

Ur comparing Milli Vanilli to Prince... U just lost all credibility on that post right there.

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Dang, forgot my implied emoticons!

No, never first . . . Purple Rain and 1999 deserve that honor, since they're what 99% of the general public know.

Having said that, I feel that we are LONG OVERDUE for all of these. Once they all hit their 20 or 25 or 30 year milestones, they should have had deluxe reissues then.

nonesuch said:

In an ideal world WB would handle all things Prince from now on with passion and respect. They would hire some real expert to collect breath-taking material for fantastic deluxe-editions and some expert to remaster the album. But given what WB have chosen from the wealth of audio- and video-material that was and is available for the PR-deluxe-edition, I am almost sure that all things coming will qualify more or less as failures.

As far as marketing is concerned, I doubt very much that the "general public" is actually in need of a PR-deluxe-edition. Things have slowed down after the initial post mortem-rush and the "general public" is probably not even listening anymore to the one (and most times only) song it knows, PR.

Thus, people in charge at WB catalogue should rather concentrate on the wishes of fans and cater them with real quality re-releases. But, unfortunately, it is not an ideal world.

Wishful thinking it seems. Sadly.

bigd74 said:

Genesia said:

Didn't Prince choose was was going to be on Purple Rain Deluxe? I thought he submitted everything to them two years ago.

I thought it was just the remaster he delivered, not sure about extra content.

That's what I understood. Prince supplied the remaster, but he didn't have a saying in the extra content.

If I remember correctly, there was only talk about a remaster, not a deluxe-edition while he was alive, right?

coldasice said:

coldasice said:

love2thenines2003 said:

coldasice said:

This is true.

No wrong.....a superbox with all the reissues for example Prince works from 1977-1989 + outtakes...demos.. extended versions ...rare stuff etc.. + gooddies in one and only one limited package in the style of Pink Floyd reissues would sell well because u point at only fan's marcket ! [Edited 5/24/17 0:20am]

There's no market for this - people just aren't buying physical product in large numbers anymore.

Nah, would love to have that, but, they need to look at what would sell to the masses before anything like that happens.

[Edited 5/24/17 10:18am]

Se7en said:

leadline said:

Nah, would to have that, but, they need to look at what would sell to the masses before anything like that happens.

CLASSIC times/music is always a money maker and people are exploring the 70s 80s is ravenous ways. I think from Purple Rain and working it's way outward(backward and forward is the way to go)

at least 2 a year is perfect. and maybe a 3rd from the Piano & Mic tour DVD/CD set and going backwards.

Concert DVDs Video DVDs are a must.

There will be a SOTT box... eventually. SOTT and 1999 are the two best chances for WB/the estate to mine his collection for deluxe packaging. The problem is that contractually, this is going to take some time, so don't expect it to happen for another year or so at the earliest.

My guess is that it will be a 4 CD set including a disc of b-sides/remixes and a disc of SOTT/DF/CB outtakes like the PR deluxe set, but most fans will have most of the items on this release already. Don't expect them to come out with a bigger super deluxe set just yet.

If WB follows how Rhino has compiled The Monkees CD reissues, we'd all be very happy. They are doing it right.

But again, all of this is contingent on if the PR deluxe does well. If it doesn't sell like they hope, all future deluxe sets are in jeopardy because PR is as close as they have to a 'sure thing'.

madhouseman said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This is wha a S O T T deluxe should look like.

Disc III

0. La La La He He Hee

1. La La La He He Hee (Highly Explosive)

2. Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake)

3. Shockadelica

4. Shockadelica 12"

5. Hot Thing (Extended Remix) Junior Vasquez/Shep Pettibone

6. Hot Think (Dub Version) Junior Vasquez/Shep Pettibone

7. U Got the Look (Long Look)

Why include 7" versions of the B-sides, but not the album tracks?

bluegangsta said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This is wha a S O T T deluxe should look like.

Disc III

0. La La La He He Hee

1. La La La He He Hee (Highly Explosive)

2. Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake)

3. Shockadelica

4. Shockadelica 12"

5. Hot Thing (Extended Remix) Junior Vasquez/Shep Pettibone

6. Hot Think (Dub Version) Junior Vasquez/Shep Pettibone

7. U Got the Look (Long Look)

Why include 7" versions of the B-sides, but not the album tracks?

because they are already on Disc I II

U think we need it? I would rather include other outtakes or extended version I don't know of

love2thenines2003 said:

madhouseman said:

There will be a SOTT box... eventually. SOTT and 1999 are the two best chances for WB/the estate to mine his collection for deluxe packaging. The problem is that contractually, this is going to take some time, so don't expect it to happen for another year or so at the earliest.

My guess is that it will be a 4 CD set including a disc of b-sides/remixes and a disc of SOTT/DF/CB outtakes like the PR deluxe set, but most fans will have most of the items on this release already. Don't expect them to come out with a bigger super deluxe set just yet.

If WB follows how Rhino has compiled The Monkees CD reissues, we'd all be very happy. They are doing it right.

But again, all of this is contingent on if the PR deluxe does well. If it doesn't sell like they hope, all future deluxe sets are in jeopardy because PR is as close as they have to a 'sure thing'.

We don't have the extended version of Adore and the longer different mix version of the Ballad of Dorothy Parker....so yes there are Trax not in circulation and maybe other outtakes...extended versions...alternate takes even not known by collectors and fans.....remember about Electric Studio demo version and Father's song long version!

agreed 100%. That is why I think that we'll already have MOST of what is being placed, like with the PR collection. I'm really excited about getting anything from WB/The Vault. I wish it was on my schedule (lol) but I'm good with them getting it right.

I'll take something like this. I don't want much.


Disc 1 – The 2017 Remaster

Sign O’ The Times

Play In the Sunshine

Housequake

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker

It

Starfish & Coffee

Slow Love

Hot thing

Forever In My Life

U Got The Look

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Strange Relationship

I Could Never Take Your Place of Your Man

The Cross

It’s Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

Adore

Disc 2 – Rare Material

La La La He He He (Highly Explosive)

Shockadelica (Edit)

Power Fantastic

Sign O’ The Times (Edit)

Hot Thing (Extended Remix)

U Got The Look (Long Look)

If I was your Girlfriend (Edit)

I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man (fade)

Hot Thing (edit)

Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake)

U Got The Look (Edit)

La La La He He He (Edit)

Hot Thing (Dub Version)

Disc 3 - As Intended

Sign O’ The Times (Extended Version)

Housequake (Razormaid Mix)

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker (Full Version)

Slow Love (Full Version)

Forever in My Life (Full Version)

Strange Relationship (Original Vocal)

I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man (Original 1986 Mix)

I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man (Unreleased Remix)

The Cross (Full Version)

Adore (Until the End of Time)

Disc 4 – Unreleased Material

The Ball

Train

A Place In Heaven

Coco Boys

Crucial

Telepathy

And How

Adonis & Bathsheba

Cosmic Day

Witness 4 The Prosecution

Data Bank

And That Says What?

Frustration

Boy U Bad

Everybody Want What They Don’t Got

Baby Go Go

Joy In Repetition (Full Version)

Soulpsychodelicide

Wally

Disc 5 – The Camille Album (2017 Remaster)

Rebirth of The Flesh

Housequake

Strange Relationship

Feel U Up

Good Love

Shockadelica

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Rockhard In A Funky Place

Disc 6 – DVD – Sign O’ The Times at First Avenue 21^st March 1987

Disc 7 – DVD – Sign O’ The Times in Antwerp 29^th June 1987

This looks a lot better than OldFriedns4$ list

But i see something i dont agree with
Disc 2 – Rare Material
nothing here is rare? but anywho...

Shockadelica edit.. ok, But no full version?

And you include La La La He He He (Edit).. when its really a fade away. While Shockadelica was an actual edit not a fade

SquirrelMeat said:

I'll take something like this. I don't want much.


Disc 1 – The 2017 Remaster

Sign O’ The Times

Play In the Sunshine

Housequake

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker

It

Starfish & Coffee

Slow Love

Hot thing

Forever In My Life

U Got The Look

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Strange Relationship

I Could Never Take Your Place of Your Man

The Cross

It’s Gonna Be A Beautiful Night

Adore

Disc 2 – Rare Material

La La La He He He (Highly Explosive)

Shockadelica (Edit)

Power Fantastic

Sign O’ The Times (Edit)

Hot Thing (Extended Remix)

U Got The Look (Long Look)

If I was your Girlfriend (Edit)

I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man (fade)

Hot Thing (edit)

Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake)

U Got The Look (Edit)

La La La He He He (Edit)

Hot Thing (Dub Version)

Disc 3 - As Intended

Sign O’ The Times (Extended Version)

Housequake (Razormaid Mix)

The Ballad of Dorothy Parker (Full Version)

Slow Love (Full Version)

Forever in My Life (Full Version)

Strange Relationship (Original Vocal)

I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man (Original 1986 Mix)

I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man (Unreleased Remix)

The Cross (Full Version)

Adore (Until the End of Time)

Disc 4 – Unreleased Material

The Ball

Train

A Place In Heaven

Coco Boys

Crucial

Telepathy

And How

Adonis & Bathsheba

Cosmic Day

Witness 4 The Prosecution

Data Bank

And That Says What?

Frustration

Boy U Bad

Everybody Want What They Don’t Got

Baby Go Go

Joy In Repetition (Full Version)

Soulpsychodelicide

Wally

Disc 5 – The Camille Album (2017 Remaster)

Rebirth of The Flesh

Housequake

Strange Relationship

Feel U Up

Good Love

Shockadelica

If I Was Your Girlfriend

Rockhard In A Funky Place

Disc 6 – DVD – Sign O’ The Times at First Avenue 21^st March 1987

Disc 7 – DVD – Sign O’ The Times in Antwerp 29^th June 1987

OldFriends4Sale said:

bluegangsta said:

Why include 7" versions of the B-sides, but not the album tracks?

because they are already on Disc I II

U think we need it? I would rather include other outtakes or extended version I don't know of

I was refering to 7" version of songs on the album.

And no, we don't.

FragileUndertow said: