blizzybiz said:

I am not sure about ´masterpiece´, but the first thing I thought when I heard the EP was ´why didnt Prince release more interesting stuff like this" because to me it´s better than lots of things he released since 2010...

Another exciting aspect of the Deliverance EP is that it apparently was made during a period which up till now seemed like one of Prince's least inspired times. Planet Earth was perhaps his blandest release ever, so it is good to know that even during this period his creative juices were still flowing. Indeed, the rawness of his voice did remind me of the 1980s. It is also promising in that it suggested that it will not just be the unreleased stuff from the 1980 and 1990s that will be interesting to discover should the vault material ever be unleashed.

The exception of the Planet Earth song, somewhere here on Earth and to a lesser extent Chelsea Rogers, I am not a big fan of PE as an album..."Guitar" is catchy but repetitive.

I do however love 3121 so I don't agree that 2006-2008 was bland. Unless, 3121 was actually recorded in 2005 (probably was, so nevermind)

gandorb said:

Another exciting aspect of the Deliverance EP is that it apparently was made during a period which up till now seemed like one of Prince's least inspired times. Planet Earth was perhaps his blandest release ever, so it is good to know that even during this period his creative juices were still flowing. Indeed, the rawness of his voice did remind me of the 1980s. It is also promising in that it suggested that it will not just be the unreleased stuff from the 1980 and 1990s that will be interesting to discover should the vault material ever be unleashed.

Yes, it's good, it sounds to me like in a similar vein to the track 'Planet Earth', perhaps he replaced it with that.

Oddly there's an edit in the 50 sec snipped in the Fbook video that seems to improve the flow compared to the same section in the full version.

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purplerabbithole said:

The exception of the Planet Earth song, somewhere here on Earth and to a lesser extent Chelsea Rogers, I am not a big fan of PE as an album..."Guitar" is catchy but repetitive.

I do however love 3121 so I don't agree that 2006-2008 was bland. Unless, 3121 was actually recorded in 2005 (probably was, so nevermind)

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Agree. I like 3121. But dont like Planet Earth much. I think Deliverance EP is much more interesting.

soladeo1 said:

ldmendes said:

Agree..its Grammy material..love to buy it for real..maybe on vinyl

I sure would. The Estate should have worked up a deal to trap the rights and sell it on their own.

paisleypark4 said:

ldmendes said:

Agree..its Grammy material..love to buy it for real..maybe on vinyl

I sure would. The Estate should have worked up a deal to trap the rights and sell it on their own.

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What are you talking about? "Trap the rights"? The estate HAS all rights – Boxill never had any rights to this material, he's just making outrageous claims.

MiceElfAgin said:

paisleypark4 said:

I sure would. The Estate should have worked up a deal to trap the rights and sell it on their own.

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What are you talking about? "Trap the rights"? The estate HAS all rights – Boxill never had any rights to this material, he's just making outrageous claims.

The Estate didnt have the versions Ian re-recorded and overdubbed. Ian stated that he only added, edited and retouched some of it as of recently himself.

paisleypark4 said:

MiceElfAgin said:

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What are you talking about? "Trap the rights"? The estate HAS all rights – Boxill never had any rights to this material, he's just making outrageous claims.

The Estate didnt have the versions Ian re-recorded and overdubbed. Ian stated that he only added, edited and retouched some of it as of recently himself.

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You were talking about rights. Boxill didn't have any rights to the material to begin with - and he didn't gain any rights to it by adding a choir or any other arrangement either. As an arranger, he can claim a one-off fee for his work (if he wasn't already paid for it by Prince) but he cannot claim part of the publishing or co-ownership of the recording either.

Yeah Deliverance is a fucking awesome song, love everything about it ... listened to it on repeat and it just takes me places ...

and I Am is also grand.

OperatingThetan said:

MiceElfAgin said:

paisleypark4 said:

The Estate didnt have the versions Ian re-recorded and overdubbed. Ian stated that he only added, edited and retouched some of it as of recently himself.

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You were talking about rights. Boxill didn't have any rights to the material to begin with - and he didn't gain any rights to it by adding a choir or any other arrangement either. As an arranger, he can claim a one-off fee for his work (if he wasn't already paid for it by Prince) but he cannot claim part of the publishing or co-ownership of the recording either.

Thats where I was getting at, give him his credits and cash in on an epic limited cd / vinyl release

"I am" is a great track, indeed.

And yes - those tracks are from different time periods (one might judge based on synth and drums sound)

coldasice said:

Be careful. If the powers that be see everyone saying that we may get the Tupac treatment. new producers butchering classic songs will be the norm. Deliverance would have benn a guitar and keyboard with a vocal. That other dude did everything else. I don't even consider it a Prince song, it's a song featuring Prince.

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You don't even considering it a Prince song? You are funny. It IS a Prince song – and you don't know what arrangement Prince would've chosen to use for a release. We don't know, period. That other dude didn't write the song, didn't play the song originally, didn't sing the song and didn't produce the song. That was all Prince. That other dude most probably just replaced some tracks Prince did with some organ and choir to make it sound more bombastic.
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He did a totally straightforward choir arrangement on Deliverance and added a few instruments on I Am to make his "extended version" a little less stupid as it is simply a cut&paste job.
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'Man Opera' is pure Prince. It sounds exactly like other stuff he did at that time, especially "F.U.N.K." Exactly the same sound, same vocal effects.

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The estate doesn't need to obtain sh.t from Boxill as Boxill does not own any rights to this material. The estate obviously has everything Prince recorded and they don't need what Boxill added to that. They need to sue his ass for his outrageous claims and for putting out a bootleg.

soladeo1 said:

As the song builds I get goosebumps. Almost perfect in every way. The perfect meld of melody, lyrics, and production. I tell you...the stuff Prince would noodle on before noon in the studio and then order Papa John's. Why didn't he release this when it came out???

It was clearly established 4 years ago that starting any post or thread with the sentence "Let's face it" was to be avoided on this website. Please re4mulate. Thank you.

databank said:

It's no masterpiece in my opinion, but it IS really interesting nonetheless, and also it is just wonderful beyond words to hear new music from Prince in 2017. Lyrically it's quite overtly "Christian rock" which honestly, is not my thing even slightly.

twinnies said:

Does anybody know if you can hear the song "Deliverance" anywhere now? I didn't get to hear it. Also, do you think that song and the EP will ever be released? I was so looking forward to it!

Keep checking You tib..its goes up and comes down regularly

His singing is really what astounded me here. He lets it rip with abandon. I love that.

The song is religious but generous as if to say, it looks like the shit has hit the fan but this only indicates that God will come save us so keep calm and give in. I don't necessarily agree but sometimes when Prince gets preachy, I believe he is trying to convince himself as well as everyone else.