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Thread started 04/13/17 7:52am

starkitty

prince wanted to reunite the revolution

https://m.axs.com/the-revolution-set-to-celebrate-prince-in-cleveland-117186#slide=1

per brownmark:

"Me and Prince, we stayed in contact through the years. He was going to put this all back together and take it on the road. A Revolution Reunion. He just wanted to do it at the right time. Before he put together 3rd Eye Girl he flew me to Minneapolis to play with [drummer] John Blackwell in a new group that had some of that old feel to it. He brought me in on bass. But Prince was always experimenting. So he went the girl route—he’d always wanted to do a girl group thing. So 3rd Eye Girl was born. But we’d always talked about bringing The Revolution back. Because we’d done a couple gigs ourselves, and he didn’t want us to do those anymore. He said, “We’re gonna bring it back, but we need to do it when I’m ready, and I can’t have you out there wearing out the sound!” So we all understood that. We backed off and waited for him."



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Reply #1 posted 04/13/17 8:17am

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Dr Fink confirmed it too that Prince was about to put the band together and do shows etc

http://prince.org/msg/5/440033

If what Matt Fink said is true, I am now officially on Team Revolution..

Has this story been posted yet. Its an interview with Mark Brown and Matt Fink about Prince. MF stated that Prince was in talks starting around 2014 to do reunion shows with the revolution (up until close to his death).

Prince hidden messages as far back as 1998 in the One video

# 6 looks like he was looking at an All Girl band configuration

Sheila E Rhonda Wendy Lisa & Susannah were performing together at times in the CoEd band

the 2006 Brit Award show was the closest he came to an all girl configuration. just one dude(bass)

(2) Come back my son and rule love Prince and the Revolution

(3) Stavros is what Jesus died on not a cross


(4) Jesus is King Jesus is King Jesus is King

(5) Stavros is what Jesus died on not a cross

(6) Wendy Lisa Sheila Cat Susannah Rhonda Marva

(7) Jesus is King Jesus is King Jesus is King

(8) Come back my son and rule love Prince and the Revolution

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Reply #2 posted 04/13/17 8:23am

starkitty

  • that link doesn't work for me (the m.axs link) [n/m it worked]
  • are all those "hidden messages" in The One video?

[Edited 4/13/17 8:24am]

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Reply #3 posted 04/13/17 8:26am

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starkitty said:

  • that link doesn't work for me (the m.axs link) [n/m it worked]
  • are all those "hidden messages" in The One video?

http://m.axs.com/intervie...nce-115577

Yes, an org member pulled them in a past thread on the One video

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Reply #4 posted 04/13/17 9:01am

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This is truly heartbreaking for me, that this was on the verge of actually happening... sad

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Reply #5 posted 04/13/17 9:17am

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for a man that didnt wanna look back and always felt the need 2 move ahead i cant see him that interested in bringing it back like that when we all know what he was working on when he passed. i was never interested in the revoultion.

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Reply #6 posted 04/13/17 9:25am

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cbarnes3121 said:

for a man that didnt wanna look back and always felt the need 2 move ahead i cant see him that interested in bringing it back like that when we all know what he was working on when he passed. i was never interested in the revoultion.

Well he definitely had fun with them. Why would you not want to get the old team back together, if just for a few shows? He was human.

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Reply #7 posted 04/13/17 9:36am

starkitty

cbarnes3121 said:

for a man that didnt wanna look back and always felt the need 2 move ahead i cant see him that interested in bringing it back like that when we all know what he was working on when he passed. i was never interested in the revoultion.



then you shouldn't be interested in this thread.

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Reply #8 posted 04/13/17 10:24am

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cbarnes3121 said:

for a man that didnt wanna look back and always felt the need 2 move ahead i cant see him that interested in bringing it back like that when we all know what he was working on when he passed. i was never interested in the revoultion.

I doubt Dr Fink and BrownMark were lying

As BrownMark said he was always playing around with different configurations of bands later in life

Come back my son and rule love Prince and the Revolution

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Reply #9 posted 04/13/17 10:55am

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A reunion tour would've been something for the ages I'm sure. Maybe the full Purple Rain album and only material up to Parade? Would've been a great opportunity to see rarely played songs and maybe for Prince to re-discover the edge that made his early singles so great. Maybe they'd pull out some outtakes? Who knows?

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Reply #10 posted 04/13/17 11:48am

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I highly doubt it. It doesn't mean that he would not have done something fresh and new with some of them like his collaboration with Wendy on the Tavis Smiley show which was inifinitely better than any rehash of 1984 material. But, there was no way that he was going to get the band back together and do a concert/tour of 1984-1986 material. He may have said things just to be nice, but Prince never ever looked backwards. Honestly, 3rdEyeGirl owned Let's Go Crazy, She's Always in My Hair and a few other songs from that era.

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Reply #11 posted 04/13/17 11:53am

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donnyenglish said:

I highly doubt it. It doesn't mean that he would not have done something fresh and new with some of them like his collaboration with Wendy on the Tavis Smiley show which was inifinitely better than any rehash of 1984 material. But, there was no way that he was going to get the band back together and do a concert/tour of 1984-1986 material. He may have said things just to be nice, but Prince never ever looked backwards. Honestly, 3rdEyeGirl owned Let's Go Crazy, She's Always in My Hair and a few other songs from that era.

U mean like he never ever looked back like on the Piano Microphone tour? and the memoir book?

Vanity's passing gave him a reality kick.

Prince looked back all the time... that was a just a defense mechanism.

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In 1997-1999 before things went bad between him and his ex-wife, in interviews he was looking back a lot and it was going to happen that the Revolution and Roadhouse Garden album was going to take place (if thing went the opposite from what happened with his ex-wife and baby) it would have happened.

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2008 at the Coachella Festival he has Morris Day & Jerome representing the Time & Sheila E open for him, saying "this is how the Purple Rain tour was supposed to be"

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Or during the LotusFlow3r - 3rd Eye Girl beginning when on the website he had the tv set playing something from Parade and saying the period was going to be exciting like 1986, and was posting all the images from the Parade era on their instagram page and such

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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #12 posted 04/13/17 12:15pm

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Well, the Revolution never played "She's Always in My Hair" live, did they? And while I do enjoy the reloaded version in its own right, give me the unbeatable excitement of the original "Let's Go Crazy" any day.

Maybe the Revolution would help get him to reconnect with songs he'd been phoning in for years, like a full, non-sampler, competently played "I Would Die 4 U" or "When Doves Cry."

Prince's tours from 2010-2011 were 'greatest hits' tours with new material sprinkled in. The sampler set was almost entirely older hits, not to mention the whole Let's Go Crazy / Delirious / Raspberry / Cream, etc. medley stayed in the set for nearly three years.

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Reply #13 posted 04/13/17 12:27pm

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donnyenglish said:

I highly doubt it. It doesn't mean that he would not have done something fresh and new with some of them like his collaboration with Wendy on the Tavis Smiley show which was inifinitely better than any rehash of 1984 material. But, there was no way that he was going to get the band back together and do a concert/tour of 1984-1986 material. He may have said things just to be nice, but Prince never ever looked backwards. Honestly, 3rdEyeGirl owned Let's Go Crazy, She's Always in My Hair and a few other songs from that era.

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You cannot say for sure that he never ever would have done it.

Miles Davis was also someone with a reputation of never ever looking back. Yet when he was convinced by Claude Nobs and Quincy Jones to revisit his Gil Evans arranged material from the old days for the 1991 Montreux Jazz Festival, he got up on stage with that big band and was grinning and truly enjoying it.

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Reply #14 posted 04/13/17 12:28pm

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donnyenglish said:

But, there was no way that he was going to get the band back together and do a concert/tour of 1984-1986 material.



you're crazy. how many times were the "last time" he was going to play purple rain?

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Reply #15 posted 04/13/17 1:17pm

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Prince did look back at times, but when he did it was his way. The Tavis Smiley collaboration with Wendy or the Brit Awards are examples of that and they were both brilliant. The reality is that The Revolution were older and some of them didn't have the chops that some of his current/recent band members had. I'm not criticizing, but that is just the reality. Prince was actually a better musician 30 years after Purple Rain and he still looked like a star. I'm not sure that can be said about The Revolution. Again, I'm not being critical.

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donnyenglish said:

Prince did look back at times, but when he did it was his way. The Tavis Smiley collaboration with Wendy or the Brit Awards are examples of that and they were both brilliant. The reality is that The Revolution were older and some of them didn't have the chops that some of his current/recent band members had. I'm not criticizing, but that is just the reality. Prince was actually a better musician 30 years after Purple Rain and he still looked like a star. I'm not sure that can be said about The Revolution. Again, I'm not being critical.

Oh yeah and Larry Graham and so many of the NPG member were so great looking

Have a look at Sonny T Michael Bland and other. Seriously. It seems U might be stuck in 1984. Prince without make up, wasn't all that either. And I was one that supported Prince growing older as we all do and will. I never slammed him or tried to say he was bald and wearing a wig etc, but on the opposite side there were too many people saying 'He doesn't age, he looks just as young as he did in such in such year. Which was not fair to Prince, which made him photoshop and add more make up.

What's the matter with your life
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In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the matter with your world
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Reply #17 posted 04/13/17 2:49pm

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Prince may have said it but at the time of his death, he had recorded an album with Adrian Crutchfield, Kirk Johnosn and Mononeon called "Black Is The New Black". I agree with donnyenglish. He probably said it to be nice but he never put his alleged desire to reunite with The Revolution into action, so it's not heartbreaking. It would have been heartbreaking, if Prince died before The Revolution played a reunion show after rehearsing for months.

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Reply #18 posted 04/13/17 2:49pm

67Cadillac

Imagine a set list like this for a reunion:

1. Let’s Go Crazy

2. Take Me with U

3. The Beautiful Ones

4. Computer Blue

5. Darling Nikki

6. When Doves Cry

7. I Would Die 4 U

8. Baby I’m a Star

9. Purple Rain

10. Delirious

11. Little Red Corvette

12. She’s Always in My Hair

13. Girl

14. Dirty Mind

15. Head

16. Automatic

17. 17 Days

18. Do Me, Baby

19. Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)

20. How Come You Don’t Call Me Anymore

21. 4 the Tears in Your Eyes

22. Erotic City

23. Girls and Boys

24. A Love Bizarre

25. Controversy

Encore 1:

26. Raspberry Beret

27. Kiss

28. 1999

Encore 2:

29. Sometimes It Snows In April

30. D.M.S.R.

Ok, realistically, he'd probably never revisit something like Head or Darling Nikki (beyond samplet snippets), but this would be awesome if it happened.

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Reply #19 posted 04/13/17 4:31pm

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As much as I've begged and pleaded for that to happen. I so didn't need to know NOW that he was actually considering it. bawl fit

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Reply #20 posted 04/13/17 4:37pm

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Prince without make up, wasn't all that either....

Oh, you just crossed the line. LOL... In all honesty though, defending the Revolution by slamming Prince's looks.. kind of silly. Just as silly as caring what his bands looked like. I would argue that later day Prince would have looked better without makeup. Let me explain..he would older and more wrinkly but I think the aging skin can start looking bad when you pack makeup all over it. The non-makeup pictures I have seen of Prince were ruggedly handsome.

OldFriends4Sale said:

donnyenglish said:

Prince did look back at times, but when he did it was his way. The Tavis Smiley collaboration with Wendy or the Brit Awards are examples of that and they were both brilliant. The reality is that The Revolution were older and some of them didn't have the chops that some of his current/recent band members had. I'm not criticizing, but that is just the reality. Prince was actually a better musician 30 years after Purple Rain and he still looked like a star. I'm not sure that can be said about The Revolution. Again, I'm not being critical.

Oh yeah and Larry Graham and so many of the NPG member were so great looking

Have a look at Sonny T Michael Bland and other. Seriously. It seems U might be stuck in 1984. Prince without make up, wasn't all that either. And I was one that supported Prince growing older as we all do and will. I never slammed him or tried to say he was bald and wearing a wig etc, but on the opposite side there were too many people saying 'He doesn't age, he looks just as young as he did in such in such year. Which was not fair to Prince, which made him photoshop and add more make up.

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Reply #21 posted 04/13/17 5:54pm

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That would have been one concert not to miss...It is too bad this never happened. Remember this came up on the NPGMC and he teased with the recording/download of Reflection with Wendy.
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Reply #22 posted 04/13/17 5:59pm

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What? Didn't they put a mic out for him at the Bobby Z benefit concert/Revolution reunion and he refused to go up?

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Reply #23 posted 04/13/17 7:05pm

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I am not convinced.

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Reply #24 posted 04/13/17 7:43pm

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cbarnes3121 said:

for a man that didnt wanna look back and always felt the need 2 move ahead i cant see him that interested in bringing it back like that when we all know what he was working on when he passed. i was never interested in the revoultion.

and this is why it's not making any sense. the timeline ain't right. just look at all that was going on between 2013-2016. however, in an interview said "an old bass player" auditions for a spot but Ida ended up getting it cause she could play circles around him lol which is true if he was referring to Mark.

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Reply #25 posted 04/13/17 7:47pm

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people complained about his setlists being stuck in the past for the past 15 years but want him to play with a band that disbanded in 86? tell me that's not limiting at all lol i get that for whatever reason (mostly nostalgia or them being with him at his height, not to mention being in the movie) people love that group but the bands afterwards, were better. even in most later interviews he said "that was then, this is now. they were cool. but we're doing something different"

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Reply #26 posted 04/13/17 7:48pm

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Prince may have said it but at the time of his death, he had recorded an album with Adrian Crutchfield, Kirk Johnosn and Mononeon called "Black Is The New Black". I agree with donnyenglish. He probably said it to be nice but he never put his alleged desire to reunite with The Revolution into action, so it's not heartbreaking. It would have been heartbreaking, if Prince died before The Revolution played a reunion show after rehearsing for months.

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tab32792 said:

cbarnes3121 said:

for a man that didnt wanna look back and always felt the need 2 move ahead i cant see him that interested in bringing it back like that when we all know what he was working on when he passed. i was never interested in the revoultion.

and this is why it's not making any sense. the timeline ain't right. just look at all that was going on between 2013-2016. however, in an interview said "an old bass player" auditions for a spot but Ida ended up getting it cause she could play circles around him lol which is true if he was referring to Mark.

Then you all don't understand Prince

I can show you timelines from 1982-2010 of stuff he had prepared and ready to do, that because of 'time limits' did not happen

He's had periods where he had 3-5 different projects ready to go

No Ida got it because she was a girl and he wanted an all girl band.

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tab32792 said:

people complained about his setlists being stuck in the past for the past 15 years but want him to play with a band that disbanded in 86? tell me that's not limiting at all lol i get that for whatever reason (mostly nostalgia or them being with him at his height, not to mention being in the movie) people love that group but the bands afterwards, were better. even in most later interviews he said "that was then, this is now. they were cool. but we're doing something different"

Doesn't mean he was just going to play stuff from the 80s.

And as even Prince said to people (when he was supposedly doing something different)

that he's done all that he came to do

and when asked why get Joshua to produce him, he replied when thing just aren't working sometimes you have to do something different

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Prince without make up, wasn't all that either....

Oh, you just crossed the line. LOL... In all honesty though, defending the Revolution by slamming Prince's looks.. kind of silly. Just as silly as caring what his bands looked like. I would argue that later day Prince would have looked better without makeup. Let me explain..he would older and more wrinkly but I think the aging skin can start looking bad when you pack makeup all over it. The non-makeup pictures I have seen of Prince were ruggedly handsome.

Oh yeah and Larry Graham and so many of the NPG member were so great looking

Have a look at Sonny T Michael Bland and other. Seriously. It seems U might be stuck in 1984. Prince without make up, wasn't all that either. And I was one that supported Prince growing older as we all do and will. I never slammed him or tried to say he was bald and wearing a wig etc, but on the opposite side there were too many people saying 'He doesn't age, he looks just as young as he did in such in such year. Which was not fair to Prince, which made him photoshop and add more make up.

1. I did not slam Prince's look. I don't know why you are directing that at me I think I was clear when I said that I defended Prince growing older and against people who ridiculed him growing his hair out and such. So let me explain, that the look is only a part of it, and I would prefer him jamming with older people than very young people. ALl these fans that are caught up in the whole "Prince never ages" crap, was not fair to Prince who was clearly aging. And because he basically lived his life in the public via movies videos photoshoots and concerts/shows, I was very understanding of how it would be difficult for him to just be natural or not wear makeup or such. How he looked played such a key role in his whole career.

What's the matter with your life
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