Agreed.
and let's face it, Prince songs are HARD to sing, too. I don't argue with people about my opinions. Scram. I said what I said. | |
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Yeah, Fran don't take no mess. Brand new boogie without the hero. | |
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It's interesting that you mention Chaka's version of IFFY. There was a thread back in July 2016 about Chaka's cover of IFFY: http://prince.org/msg/7/428802. Quite a few Prince fans, myself included, like Chaka's version of IFFY better than Prince's version. For the record, I like both versions, but I like Chaka's more. I think that part of what makes Chaka's version work so well is that it is really different than P's version. Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above | |
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TrivialPursuit said: Someone just posted a video on YouTube of a chick on the UK version of The Voice, and she was squealing her way through "Purple Rain". I could not believe the people who were saying "oh, she killed it" "OMG she's awesome". No, no boo, she's not. She might be able to sing, but she butchered the song, and it was a squawking mess. Of course, another no-talent hack is a judge on the show and was standing up through the rendition - will.i.am. I wasn't a fan of hers all the way through, she oversang everything. I so cringed when I heard her start singing Purple Rain. Will was her coach, but to say Prince would have loved her version, I was like Waaa did u just hear what I heard? ...and then Jennifer Hudson agreed with Will. There was only Gavin Rosedale who wasn't keen. Anyway, the guy who won, Mo was awesome. There's always a rainbow 🌈 , at the end of every rain ☔️ | |
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Is this the same show where some guy sang and Adam Levine and Alicia Keys told the guy that "the only person who could hit those notes so effortlessly was Prince"?
I listened to the guy and he sang ok, but I didn't hear any extraordinary "P sounding notes" at all.
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I haven't seen The Voice, but I have read a few times that she 'smashed it'. So that's probably why everyone over sings it - because people consider that 'smashing it'. | |
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I was thinking the same thing
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. No one should cover Prince, period... at least not in my opinion. Altho I do make exception for Chris Stapleton singing Nothing Compares 2 U. I like that one. .
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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That is one subtle tune. Fantasia, stay away from the Rain. lol All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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Gary Clark may sing it good All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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Its like the Star Spangled Banner of rock.
"Climb in my fur." | |
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. [Edited 4/3/17 12:09pm] The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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As you've rightly stated, the problem is not the fact that great talent is not out there - more that the record business does not allow anything other than the 'safe bets' to take part in the race.
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PR is hard to cover/karaoke because there is so much space in it. You have to stand in the moment and still keep the conviction. Prince could sell melodrama because the songs were his creation and we could say "he's really feeling it tonight!" or whatever and he was hammy and camp as a performer anyway. None of the people mentioned in this thread have the season(or talent in some cases) as a performer to sell the song without going for the vocal hysterics. As someone mentioned La LaBelle is wouldn't be herself without them. -- I think with some of the other songs, people try to duplicate his energy and get it wrong. But I have enjoyed several of the covers I have heard, the tributes I've seen haven't been all bad,imo. If it's magic, then why can't it be everlasting..... | |
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bruce springsteen has some brilliant insights on this in his recent bio, he mentions the shows and the voices and how perfect they are and how they miss what he calls "singing from your godhead" and how that's the key in communication. He's also extremely modest in what he thinks of his voice and how traumatized he was when he first heard his voice played back to him. Yet, this man who considers his voice so limited changed peoples lives, inspired, moved and helped many people get through their days (I know, I'm one).
one more thing, if the public didn't tolerate this crap it would be gone tomorrow, I am telling you, there are real artists out here, I'm one and we can't get any help whatsoever. There are a lot of us, more than can ever be heard really and we are good and even great. If the public wanted to support us they would, they'd rather sit on their asses at home than go out and find and champion real artistry. Even in a city like seattle, musicians can't really even make a living. [Edited 4/3/17 14:11pm] | |
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i'm the one who mentioned labelle, but you know, years ago, i was reading an essay by Nelson George about Prince's cultural impact and he mentioned Purple Rain and how Prince mixed various influences, the one name that struck me as odd was Patti Labelle. So I listened and yes, you could hear the influence, it's a small thing and it's subtle, it's how she rushes words together in a way that doesn't even follow the melody, but also her soaring notes to, I could believe what Prince said when he said his favorite singers were women. She still can't help her histrionics though, god bless her heart. | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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[Edited 4/3/17 15:21pm] The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams | |
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Bona you are the biggest drama queen my eyes have ever read in this forum, and believe me there are quite a few. | |
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It's great writing | |
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What is great writing? | |
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your buddy bono | |
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Great post - I think the problem is now that the music isn't the driving force - that it isn't the music that makes the money. All the young adults I work with never buy music, they just find it on the internet or are on spotify etc... Therefore, it is the merchandise and the promotion of the singer/band as a brand that makes the money, hence the need for good looks etc... and also the reason they don't last five minutes - one stadium tour and people see through them.
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well, music honestly speaking isn't that important for a persons survival. It's not necessary like food and water and so most people have responsibilities that take up most of their time and energy, it's not realistic to expect them to go to great lengths to help a struggling artist. That's all understandable and what's really understandable is that the main venues are bars for small time musicians and not everyone wants to be hanging out in bars, I know I am fucking sick of being around drunkards and wish there were other ways to reach people as a live act. I know from experience that there is a distinct difference between hearing music via a video or a recording and feeling the whole thing from a real breath musician, i just wish there were other ways than bars and I'm sure a lot of people have no need to be hanging out in bars. I can tell you there is real talent out here though, a surplus of it, all kinds, great instrumentalists, great singers, great writers, beautiful women with great voices who'll never get anywhere more than likely. Sheryl Crow once said record companies work against art, she was right, they don't need any of us. It's simpler just to slap a pretty face on something and sell it. Also, the piracy issue is valid, music is really not a good way to make money for anyone today. My personal goal around this hurdle is to pair my music with my own feature film, in other words, doing things that automatically seperate you from 99.9 percent of the pack. Other than that, too damned many musicians all with vary levels of gifts and talents. | |
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Indeed, he is quite good at it. | |
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