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purplerabbithole said: It is only the Warner Brothers music. That kind of sucks. They are going to have to expand it to the later music if he is going to continue to get younger fans. Younger fans might like you as a nostalgic act. When I was young, everyone was loving on the Beatles(early 90s) but for him to continue to be relevent, people are going to need to see that he was capable of good work past his prime. That it wasn't just a fluke.
Does Prince own the distribution rights to all his non-WB music? If so you'd think it wouldn't be difficult to work something out. Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: Ugot2shakesumthin said: Tidal will be ok. It's now part of AT&T who also just bought DirecTV. So the company has big plans in offering digital content. Smart. It's better they get money off their growing network and channels instead of just leaving it to Spotify and Apple and Amazon Google etc. What? I thought Sprint just invested in Tidal.  I may have gotten my phone company wrong. You're probably right. | |
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I know Prince wasnt happy with these services, but he is no longer with us and the legacy must go on. Non fans should have access to his music. |
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GustavoRibas said: I know Prince wasnt happy with these services, but he is no longer with us and the legacy must go on. Non fans should have access to his music. I agree, it's great that his music will be available on Spotify again so more people can discover his music Welcome 2 The Dawn | |
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Having future generations be AWARE of his music through Spotify makes it easier for the estate to license it for films and commercials. His catalogue will be more appealing to studios and advertisers if more people know it. And let's not kid ourselves, licensing will be where the real money is going forward. Not streams and not even sales from those of us willing to drop $10 for an album with "Cosmic Day" on it. |
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sexton said:
I think Prince said he was fine with the idea of people opening the vault after he passed... anyway, with the mess the estate is in, I think we're going to have to wait... | |
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"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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x 10000000Finally! I don't think some of the people who are opposed to this move realize how much it's going to end up helping his estate. Even if each play is only gaining them a fraction of a penny, I think a ton of people are going to be checking out his music and it's definitely going to add up over time. People just don't blindly buy albums anymore, at least not as often as they might have 20-30 years ago.
Would you rather have potential fans just blow off his music altogether because they don't have any convenient means of listening to it, or throw some money (even if only a menial amount per person) to his estate via streaming? And think of the people who will end up becoming fans and spending money on albums/merch/etc. because of this. Definitely a smart move, and anyone who thinks it's not is still stuck in the old model. | |
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Pressumably, it will be remastered?? | |
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rap said: Pressumably, it will be remastered?? No, almost certainly not. | |
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My hope is the extended b-sides are there. Previously Spotify only had the album and single versions. While most other artists have all types of remixes on there.
Prince was known for his killer b-sides, it's a huge part of his WB legacy. Hope they are on there too! [Edited 2/1/17 5:53am] | |
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Can someone tell me if this is a good thing? What exactly is his catalog, I mean the guy had 1000's of songs, some unreleased. Can you buy stuff? I'm kinda a snob when it comes to music quality. I have a lot of his music, are there any hidden treasures. Is the family benefitting from this? I thought the estate wasn't settled...I'm skeptical, enquiring minds want to know. ..Hello, who is it?
Yes, this is a prettyman, Princey! | |
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ldmendes said: Can someone tell me if this is a good thing? What exactly is his catalog, I mean the guy had 1000's of songs, some unreleased. Can you buy stuff? I'm kinda a snob when it comes to music quality. I have a lot of his music, are there any hidden treasures. Is the family benefitting from this? I thought the estate wasn't settled...I'm skeptical, enquiring minds want to know. Well I usually use Spotify extensively because my phone is always on me, so I listen at the gym, waiting rooms or at home or wherever I want. If you only listen to music at home on your hi-fi stereo with your collection of all the music you ever want to Alisten to at hands distance, them this is probably not for you. But if you are at home and want a complete record store at your fingertips, and want to check out new of forgotten music, that's a considertion. | |
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- Its very likely that Spotify will have only the released albums |
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Hmm..I'm all for folks having access to Prince's music, and I'm always looking for hidden gems...I don't want to be involved in any shenanigans. I have to much respect for Prince for that. ..Hello, who is it?
Yes, this is a prettyman, Princey! | |
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My kids suggested that I get to learn iTunes better so I've been watching YouTube videos to organize my P stuff.
Then I think I'll put everything back up to iCloud so all my Apple devices can access everything.
Then I'll just focus on collecting various playlists to keep myself happy hearing my music the way I want to instead of dealing with any of this streaming stuff, or at least until I see the value/benefit in using streaming services for myself...I just don't get it...yet.
Your mileage may vary, of course.
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I suspect it'll be the exact same stuff that was there before. [Edited 2/1/17 12:58pm] | |
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renfield said: Having future generations be AWARE of his music through Spotify makes it easier for the estate to license it for films and commercials. His catalogue will be more appealing to studios and advertisers if more people know it. And let's not kid ourselves, licensing will be where the real money is going forward. Not streams and not even sales from those of us willing to drop $10 for an album with "Cosmic Day" on it. -- Ridiculous being on some streaming platform has nothing to do with music being being in movies or T.V. The estate is free to license songs to any media that they wish why do you think he was his own administrator sonething that Londell tore down immediatly but he is out of the picture now and the family will take over one day so I think you guys should enjoy your strand while you can. If you read the courts docs Tidal is not going any time soon. [Edited 2/1/17 13:45pm] | |
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jaawwnn said:
I suspect it'll be the exact same stuff that was there before. [Edited 2/1/17 12:58pm] I was going to ask about this. It's one of the most frustrating things about Prince's music - the huge difference in volume. I sometimes enjoy creating my own playlists, but it can be hardwork to listen to them when the volume in Let's Work, Housequake, Le Grind and Funknroll (for example) is so radically different! | |
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mbdtyler said: Finally! I don't think some of the people who are opposed to this move realize how much it's going to end up helping his estate. Even if each play is only gaining them a fraction of a penny, I think a ton of people are going to be checking out his music and it's definitely going to add up over time. People just don't blindly buy albums anymore, at least not as often as they might have 20-30 years ago.
Would you rather have potential fans just blow off his music altogether because they don't have any convenient means of listening to it, or throw some money (even if only a menial amount per person) to his estate via streaming? And think of the people who will end up becoming fans and spending money on albums/merch/etc. because of this. Definitely a smart move, and anyone who thinks it's not is still stuck in the old model. No, we know basic math. A penny is just that a penny. Maybe there is us a chance the estate cut a good deal but I doubt it. Do you realize that if Tidal sent Prince 4 payments of 750k he banked almost 2 million some of which needs to be recouped by Tidal before the deal ends. Does anyone think the estate will bring in 2 million from streaming alone this year? Unless the estate received a upfront payment which to be fair they do give to the record companies that is not going to happen. | |
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Hope TBA is included.... |
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GustavoRibas said: I know Prince wasnt happy with these services, but he is no longer with us and the legacy must go on. Non fans should have access to his music. --Non-fans incapable of going to Tidal or buying the cd and placing the music in a cloud. Do some of you have stick in Sportify. | |
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GustavoRibas said: I know Prince wasnt happy with these services, but he is no longer with us and the legacy must go on. Non fans should have access to his music. --Non-fans incapable of going to Tidal or buying the cd and placing the music in a cloud. Do some of you have stock in Sportify. | |
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SomeSoldier said: jaawwnn said:
I suspect it'll be the exact same stuff that was there before. [Edited 2/1/17 12:58pm] I was going to ask about this. It's one of the most frustrating things about Prince's music - the huge difference in volume. I sometimes enjoy creating my own playlists, but it can be hardwork to listen to them when the volume in Let's Work, Housequake, Le Grind and Funknroll (for example) is so radically different! I 'normalised' every track in my collection including all the prince stuff so this wouldn't be a problem as I make and listen to playlists all the time. Highly recommend it, not that it will help for Spotify. They have some sort normalisation on their app though, no? | |
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laurarichardson said: GustavoRibas said: I know Prince wasnt happy with these services, but he is no longer with us and the legacy must go on. Non fans should have access to his music. --Non-fans incapable of going to Tidal or buying the cd and placing the music in a cloud. Do some of you have stock in Sportify. What is so great about Tidal? are you a spokesperson for it or something? Paisley Park is in your heart
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marksinclair said: SomeSoldier said: I was going to ask about this. It's one of the most frustrating things about Prince's music - the huge difference in volume. I sometimes enjoy creating my own playlists, but it can be hardwork to listen to them when the volume in Let's Work, Housequake, Le Grind and Funknroll (for example) is so radically different! I 'normalised' every track in my collection including all the prince stuff so this wouldn't be a problem as I make and listen to playlists all the time. Highly recommend it, not that it will help for Spotify. They have some sort normalisation on their app though, no? Excuse my ignorance, but how do You do normalise tracks? Edit - I just googled it. I never knew you could do that! Thanks. [Edited 2/1/17 15:56pm] | |
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Then what's the point?! | |
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I asked my son and he says he did it by going into iTunes Preferences and checked Soundcheck. He says that makes iTunes automatically normalize my music.
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rogifan said: laurarichardson said: --Non-fans incapable of going to Tidal or buying the cd and placing the music in a cloud. Do some of you have stock in Sportify. What is so great about Tidal? are you a spokesperson for it or something? --The music is avalible to buy not rent and the sound quality is excellent. You are only going to get WB stuff on Sportify which if you are old school fan you should have anyway. | |
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