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Reply #30 posted 01/22/17 10:37pm

EnDoRpHn

rogifan said:

It's not Kirk J. or anyone else's fault he's no longer here.

Actually, it is someone else's fault he died. According to all of the reporting, someone either sold him, or someone close to him provided him with, adulterated medications for which he lacked a valid prescription. They were tainted with Fentanyl, which killed him. There is still an ongoing criminal investigation, though given the lack of recent reports, it's unclear that anyone will be charged.
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Reply #31 posted 01/23/17 12:02am

lotusflower000
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purplerabbithole said:

Yes, I agree. I don't think Prince was stoic or lacking in affection necessarily. But he gave pieces of himself to people and keep recesses of himself hidden. He bonded with people but never completely let up his guard. He compartmentalized his life. It was a controlled and rather cautious life in many ways despite his wild sense of humor and fun. Its quite sad really and more of a reason for people to listen to his music (and in all periods of his life)..his music might be cryptic but it comes from his imagination and his heart. It reflects what he really was, what he wanted to be, and what he thought he was. He and Alan Leeds are both wrong that Prince was a funnel or vessel for God's music. That's a discredit to Prince. it came from him--from his effort, his internal life, his heart, his reflection of the world, his sense of humor, his wild internal spirit. It was how he connected to the world and even at many times how he connected to the people around him. It freed him in spirit but enclosed him in life.

That svengali image that people have of Prince hopefully will change to one of a man who felt most comfortable with himself and others when music was involved (thus the reason he showed affection to female musicians, proteges, love interests etc through supporting their careers..

Music--his crutch, his downfall and his salvation all at the same time. However, the man seemed to lack balance in life. Music can't be everything but I think people should respect his sacrifice by giving his music from all periods the benefit of the doubt.

Susan Rogers stated that if you want to get to know Prince, its all in his music. I think she is probably right.

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[Edited 1/7/17 20:53pm]



Beautifully expressed, and I couldn't agree more...Everything is in his lyrics, if people care to read them carefully enough, and be open to their contents...

yes.. Love the way you put that.

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Reply #32 posted 01/23/17 2:40am

rogifan

EnDoRpHn said:

rogifan said:

It's not Kirk J. or anyone else's fault he's no longer here.

Actually, it is someone else's fault he died. According to all of the reporting, someone either sold him, or someone close to him provided him with, adulterated medications for which he lacked a valid prescription. They were tainted with Fentanyl, which killed him. There is still an ongoing criminal investigation, though given the lack of recent reports, it's unclear that anyone will be charged.

Did that person open his mouth and shove the pills down his throat? I don't follow this much. If someone shoots up heroin, ODs and dies can the person who sold it to them be charged with murder?
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Reply #33 posted 01/23/17 3:05am

Kara

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rogifan said:

EnDoRpHn said:


Actually, it is someone else's fault he died. According to all of the reporting, someone either sold him, or someone close to him provided him with, adulterated medications for which he lacked a valid prescription. They were tainted with Fentanyl, which killed him. There is still an ongoing criminal investigation, though given the lack of recent reports, it's unclear that anyone will be charged.

Did that person open his mouth and shove the pills down his throat? I don't follow this much. If someone shoots up heroin, ODs and dies can the person who sold it to them be charged with murder?


https://www.mprnews.org/s...ack-market

[...]

Notable drugs cases are often prosecuted in federal, not state, court.

Among the most serious federal charges a person who supplied the fentanyl could face — be it a doctor, trafficker or friend — is opioid distribution resulting in death, which carries a mandatory minimum of 20 years in prison. Under Minnesota law, anyone who gave Prince the fentanyl that killed him could face a potential third-degree murder charge, even if that person did not know the pills contained the drug.

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Reply #34 posted 01/23/17 4:36am

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rogifan said:

EnDoRpHn said:
Actually, it is someone else's fault he died. According to all of the reporting, someone either sold him, or someone close to him provided him with, adulterated medications for which he lacked a valid prescription. They were tainted with Fentanyl, which killed him. There is still an ongoing criminal investigation, though given the lack of recent reports, it's unclear that anyone will be charged.
Did that person open his mouth and shove the pills down his throat? I don't follow this much. If someone shoots up heroin, ODs and dies can the person who sold it to them be charged with murder?

Yes. the person who sold the illegal drugs to the person who died, CAN be charged with murder.

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Reply #35 posted 01/23/17 4:45am

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PennyPurple said:



rogifan said:


EnDoRpHn said:
Actually, it is someone else's fault he died. According to all of the reporting, someone either sold him, or someone close to him provided him with, adulterated medications for which he lacked a valid prescription. They were tainted with Fentanyl, which killed him. There is still an ongoing criminal investigation, though given the lack of recent reports, it's unclear that anyone will be charged.

Did that person open his mouth and shove the pills down his throat? I don't follow this much. If someone shoots up heroin, ODs and dies can the person who sold it to them be charged with murder?

Yes. the person who sold the illegal drugs to the person who died, CAN be charged with murder.


Ok. Maybe someone will be charged in this case. I'm certainly not defending drug dealers. I guess that's the reason people should see reputable doctors and not g4t anything off the black market where you don't know what you might be getting.
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Reply #36 posted 01/23/17 5:15am

RJOrion

at what point is a 57 year old man, with unlimited resources, responsible for his own actions?...the only way soneone else is responsible, is if he was intentionally murdered...which is what i lean towards believing, anyway...
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Reply #37 posted 01/23/17 12:31pm

scorp84

We'll never really know everything, because it's a very private matter, but what is known is that it got to a point where he identified his issues, and took appropriate action, but was ultimately too late. As far as the ongoing investigation, i'll just wait to see how that plays out.
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Reply #38 posted 01/23/17 7:55pm

EnDoRpHn

RJOrion said:

at what point is a 57 year old man, with unlimited resources, responsible for his own actions?...the only way soneone else is responsible, is if he was intentionally murdered...which is what i lean towards believing, anyway...

You can believe whatever you want to. You are not the prosecutor in this case.

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