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Reply #30 posted 12/28/16 11:59am

databank

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laurarichardson said:

databank said:

IDK where the notion of me being incomfortable with sex lyrics comes from but thanks nonetheless for the articulated reply. I would agree with the phallic reference in Desire, however I do not believe it applies here. And that's precisely because I put it in context.

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What I read, right or wrong, is this, which is consistant with context and what Sheila says in the video (I haven't read her book):

The moon up above, it shines on upon our skin we are covered in light (spotlights, exposure or maybe even a more metaphysical, divine light as in being beautiful and chosen?), we shine in the dark
Whispering words that scream of outrageous sin we daresay (to each other or the world?) things that are shocking to most, maybe a reference precisely to those sexual lyrics common to P's songs, though the "whispering" verb suggests a more inimate dialogue
We all want the stuff that's found in our wildest dreams even though we are lucky enough to do whatever we want to, everyone's like us and wants it too, only they just can't or won't allow themselves = we are not that different = don't judge us so promptly
It gets kinda rough in the back of our limousine I guess this one is pretty much self explanatory

That's what we are, we all want a love bizarre again we're not that different from the lot of you

A strawberry mind, a body that's built for two I really have no explaination for the strawberry mind (the images related with strawberries in English somewhat elude me) but the body built for 2 is an obvious reference to fusion/sexual fusion
A kiss on the spine, we do things we never do OK with the reference to cuddling and doing unordinary sexual things, we agree on this
Swallow the pride and joy of the ivory tower here I believe it's a way of saying "we enjoy the privileges and happiness of being part of that rich and famous elite that has the freedom to realize its fantasies without caring for what others think"

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It's also possible that Prince and Sheila intended a double meaning, making a sexual allusion at the same time on purpose specifically by adding trhe verbe "swallow" to "ivory tower" but I am convinced that "ivory tower" was originally used in its primary sense, which you must admit makes sense in the context of the rest.

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Please realize that I do not claim to know anything about the true meaning of those lyrics, but I believe my interpretation is valid. Now if anyone can explain the strawberry mind?

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[Edited 12/28/16 11:47am]

We will have to agree to disagree. I do not hear the song in this manner. Later in Prince's life I could see some of this being accurate but not in his 20s and just based on what was going on in their relationship at the time.

Fair enough smile

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Reply #31 posted 12/28/16 10:04pm

Leopard52

laurarichardson said:



databank said:


In French "ivory tower" means a status of isolation and looking down on commons for rich/famous/powerful people, IDK if the metaphor exists in English but this would seem consistant with the context it's being used in the lyrics (A kiss on the spine, we do things we never do / Swallow the pride and joy of the ivory tower), so I do not see a necessary phallic metaphor here no no no!


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I would add, as a writer, that poets and lyricists do not necessarilly have a specific meaning in mind for every little word that they lay on paper. Words pop-up in your mind spontaneously, they have a specific meaning at a specific moment but such meaning may be blurry or merely symbolic, and you may reread yourself and not be totally sure of what you meant by this at the exact moment you wrote it. I have doubts about whether Sheila really knows what "strawberry mind" or "ivory tower" stands for, admitting that she really co-wrote those words with Prince at all (he may as well have come-up with the lyrics on his own).


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However, if Sheila really knows what it means, I respect that she wouldn't divulge it: poetry is about what the poem itself tells posterity, not what the writer indended to mean in the first place.



Are Sheila and Prince french?



The Ivory Tower is P's dick. He is a light skin dude thus Ivory= lightskin tower= penis.



Kiss on the spine. -- Kissing ,Cuddling and making out.



Do the things we never do- Doing freaky stuff in bed



Swallow the pride and joy of the ivory tower. - Swallow- do I have to explain,


Pride- she took it or they took each other's pride as in begging for more loving.


Joy- Ogasms.



Once again if you read her book they got together during the PR tour and that is when this song was written. They were often stuck in the hotel together doing that tour. She does not go into the details in the book about their relationship but you can figure out what went on. I believe this song came out of that time on that tour.



Prince' songs to me are like a guy just writting his life experiences out in songs instead of a journal.


Laura... I like your version. I need to look at lyrics more often!!
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Reply #32 posted 12/28/16 10:06pm

Leopard52

lemoncrush19 said:



SchlomoThaHomo said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




That one is easy, But I don't know what 'Strawberry Mind' is. Strawberry Lover (Mazarati) and some other songs back then mention Strawberry something...






Back in my neighborhood, a strawberry was the girl who fucked EVERYBODY.




some say: a woman selling her ... hmm ... "strawberry" 4 drugs boxed


I don't like either one of those explanations. Lol
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Reply #33 posted 12/29/16 3:57am

laurarichardso
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Leopard52 said:

laurarichardson said:

Are Sheila and Prince french?

The Ivory Tower is P's dick. He is a light skin dude thus Ivory= lightskin tower= penis.

Kiss on the spine. -- Kissing ,Cuddling and making out.

Do the things we never do- Doing freaky stuff in bed

Swallow the pride and joy of the ivory tower. - Swallow- do I have to explain,

Pride- she took it or they took each other's pride as in begging for more loving.

Joy- Ogasms.

Once again if you read her book they got together during the PR tour and that is when this song was written. They were often stuck in the hotel together doing that tour. She does not go into the details in the book about their relationship but you can figure out what went on. I believe this song came out of that time on that tour.

Prince' songs to me are like a guy just writting his life experiences out in songs instead of a journal.

Laura... I like your version. I need to look at lyrics more often!!

His lyrics are really interesting even the naughty lyrics. I have always believed he just wrote songs instead of writing in diary. Read the lyrics to "Love" from 3121 to me that is about his divorce or pending divorce.

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Reply #34 posted 12/29/16 4:41pm

Latin

The extended version of the song is a funky jam.
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Reply #35 posted 12/29/16 7:41pm

RJOrion

databank says

"It would be nice if people stopped seeing dicks everywhere"

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LMAO lol

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Reply #36 posted 12/30/16 12:21am

HombreX

"It's not about a song,

it's not about a moment,

It's about a lifetime!!!"

Describes how eye feel.

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Reply #37 posted 12/30/16 4:57am

Latin

HombreX said:

"It's not about a song,


it's not about a moment,


It's about a lifetime!!!"


Describes how eye feel.



yes
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Reply #38 posted 12/30/16 1:40pm

Stephie89

They had a threesome...Think about its strawberry mind which is a girl that go with everybody and a body that's build for two people.
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Reply #39 posted 12/30/16 5:39pm

laurarichardso
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Stephie89 said:

They had a threesome...Think about its strawberry mind which is a girl that go with everybody and a body that's build for two people.

--Good point because the stories are out there.
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Reply #40 posted 12/30/16 5:49pm

Stephie89

laurarichardson said:

Stephie89 said:

They had a threesome...Think about its strawberry mind which is a girl that go with everybody and a body that's build for two people.

--Good point because the stories are out there.

She looked embarrass too when she was talking about it too.I felt sorry for her when she was talking about his death...She is still dealing with it.
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Reply #41 posted 12/30/16 5:59pm

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Stephie89 said:

laurarichardson said:


--Good point because the stories are out there.

She looked embarrass too when she was talking about it too.I felt sorry for her when she was talking about his death...She is still dealing with it.

---Well she did not go into the details in her book about their relationship other than being hurt about being in his haram and not being a constant couple.
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Reply #42 posted 12/30/16 6:03pm

hardwork

Latin said:

The extended version of the song is a funky jam.

This times 1 billion.

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Reply #43 posted 12/30/16 7:48pm

Stephie89

laurarichardson said:

Stephie89 said:


She looked embarrass too when she was talking about it too.I felt sorry for her when she was talking about his death...She is still dealing with it.

---Well she did not go into the details in her book about their relationship other than being hurt about being in his haram and not being a constant couple.

Yeah she didn't go into a lot detail about it..To honest I don't think she ever got over him.
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Reply #44 posted 12/30/16 7:56pm

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Stephie89 said:

laurarichardson said:


---Well she did not go into the details in her book about their relationship other than being hurt about being in his haram and not being a constant couple.

Yeah she didn't go into a lot detail about it..To honest I don't think she ever got over him.

--- I don't think so either😟
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Reply #45 posted 02/11/17 9:04am

Latin

hardwork said:



Latin said:


The extended version of the song is a funky jam.


This times 1 billion.


yes
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