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Reply #540 posted 01/05/17 3:26pm

mjscarousal

1Sasha said:

Supposedly, Beyonce gets $5.5 million per show. There are times when that amount does change. I remember Prince stating in a complaint about a venue during the show that he was getting $3 million for that show and he was going to perform despite the sound issues. All I can think is that her money was joined with her DH's money and much of it walked out the door ...

[Edited 1/5/17 12:27pm]

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Also, I think its pretty safe to say she walks away with less than that after the NFL, label, investers, dancers, engineers, etc get their money. I also don't believe she earns that every show, all those Formation dates were not sold out.

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Reply #541 posted 01/10/17 8:47am

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mjscarousal said:

1Sasha said:

Supposedly, Beyonce gets $5.5 million per show. There are times when that amount does change. I remember Prince stating in a complaint about a venue during the show that he was getting $3 million for that show and he was going to perform despite the sound issues. All I can think is that her money was joined with her DH's money and much of it walked out the door ...

[Edited 1/5/17 12:27pm]

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Also, I think its pretty safe to say she walks away with less than that after the NFL, label, investers, dancers, engineers, etc get their money. I also don't believe she earns that every show, all those Formation dates were not sold out.

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See the article below. Roc Nation has some documentation and in the court papers they want their docs kept under seal.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/roc-nation-tidal-challenge-authority-administrator-princes-estate-963073

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Reply #542 posted 01/10/17 9:20am

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laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

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Also, I think its pretty safe to say she walks away with less than that after the NFL, label, investers, dancers, engineers, etc get their money. I also don't believe she earns that every show, all those Formation dates were not sold out.

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See the article below. Roc Nation has some documentation and in the court papers they want their docs kept under seal.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/roc-nation-tidal-challenge-authority-administrator-princes-estate-963073

Oh and Jay-Z has a 50% stake in the business.

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Reply #543 posted 01/10/17 9:30am

nelcp777

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

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See the article below. Roc Nation has some documentation and in the court papers they want their docs kept under seal.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/roc-nation-tidal-challenge-authority-administrator-princes-estate-963073

Oh and Jay-Z has a 50% stake in the business.

I find it interesting that ROC Nation states:

Aspiro also believes that claims may be barred because Bremer "lacks the requisite authority to authorize the instant lawsuit" and because "Plaintiffs are not the real parties in interest with respect to the claims asserted."

I kind of get the impression that ROC Nation is saying that until the heirs are determined, they can do what they have been. Just my take away from it.

I also found it interesting that they make claims NPG does not have valid copyright registrations.

Their arguements seem more of looking at loopholes than contractual.

This will not be over any time soon. Either side will appeal and drag this out. My 2 cents.

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Reply #544 posted 01/10/17 10:30am

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nelcp777 said:



laurarichardson said:




laurarichardson said:



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See the article below. Roc Nation has some documentation and in the court papers they want their docs kept under seal.



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/roc-nation-tidal-challenge-authority-administrator-princes-estate-963073


Oh and Jay-Z has a 50% stake in the business.






I find it interesting that ROC Nation states:



Aspiro also believes that claims may be barred because Bremer "lacks the requisite authority to authorize the instant lawsuit" and because "Plaintiffs are not the real parties in interest with respect to the claims asserted."



I kind of get the impression that ROC Nation is saying that until the heirs are determined, they can do what they have been. Just my take away from it.



I also found it interesting that they make claims NPG does not have valid copyright registrations.



Their arguements seem more of looking at loopholes than contractual.



This will not be over any time soon. Either side will appeal and drag this out. My 2 cents.




Yes, this going to drag since Breamer is not going to be the admin anymore and of course NPG copyrights. RocNations knows this or they would be streaming anything.
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Reply #545 posted 01/13/17 3:14pm

XSX

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nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

I find it interesting that ROC Nation states:

Aspiro also believes that claims may be barred because Bremer "lacks the requisite authority to authorize the instant lawsuit" and because "Plaintiffs are not the real parties in interest with respect to the claims asserted."

I kind of get the impression that ROC Nation is saying that until the heirs are determined, they can do what they have been. Just my take away from it.

I also found it interesting that they make claims NPG does not have valid copyright registrations.

Their arguements seem more of looking at loopholes than contractual.

This will not be over any time soon. Either side will appeal and drag this out. My 2 cents.

I think things look just the way they did when Prince was alive and certainly back Jay Z's rapped claim that Prince's assets are in safe hands.
No matter what publicity and manipulation Bremer do on assumption that they 'look' like the Warner-based Prince the general public remembers, RocNation knows it has nothing to defend, but merely to re-assert (that's what it's asking for, essentially).
That's also why they'll not be taking down anything and (despite occasional reports they have, which must be due to their poorly constructed website not rendering assets in browsers) have not, to date.

Bremer are waging a PR ruse which won't wash with the people who are looking for the albums that Tidal have. And, frankly, I doubt that Bremer were anything other than belatedly surprised to learn that the albums WERE on Tidal. They certainly look exactly like what they're trying to look like...a Warner-acolyte of executive suits with taste fit for nothing but figures, mainly fat ones.
Prince loathed them and sought to cut them out. Here they are trying to cut themselves back in. With not a titter of wits about them. The very date of filing of their claim is the proof of the bad joke that they are. "Late again?"

F 'em and all victory and new power gneration to Jay Z on this.

In any court-room he only has to rely on Prince's own words.

He chose tidal because he thought they were winners.


In terms of this Bremer (lack of) case, they definitely are but there's nothing to win.
They already have what they were given. By Prince.

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“I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.”
-Robert Anton Wilson
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Reply #546 posted 01/13/17 7:10pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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laurarichardson said

Yes, this going to drag since Breamer is not going to be the admin anymore and of course NPG copyrights. RocNations knows this or they would be streaming anything.

It usually takes 18 months to 2 years for a case to actually go to trial.

No lie.

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