Purplebflogirl said:

I would die 4 u.. Doesn't have any direct bible quotes but IMHO the whole song is about Jesus..

+ 1 - Ever since someone on the org made the case that Prince wrote the song about Jesus, I have come to believe that the song is indeed about Jesus. Every time I listen to IWD4U, it makes so much sense that the song is about Jesus!

206Michelle said:

Purplebflogirl said:

I would die 4 u.. Doesn't have any direct bible quotes but IMHO the whole song is about Jesus..

+ 1 - Ever since someone on the org made the case that Prince wrote the song about Jesus, I have come to believe that the song is indeed about Jesus. Every time I listen to IWD4U, it makes so much sense that the song is about Jesus!

YES...Especially since in the later years he changed the Lyrics from

IM YOUR Messiah

TO

HE,s YOur Messiah

Lovejunky said:

206Michelle said:

+ 1 - Ever since someone on the org made the case that Prince wrote the song about Jesus, I have come to believe that the song is indeed about Jesus. Every time I listen to IWD4U, it makes so much sense that the song is about Jesus!

YES...Especially since in the later years he changed the Lyrics from

IM YOUR Messiah

TO

HE,s YOur Messiah

It was Prince's song, so it's not for me to say what wording he should use, but it would make sense for the word to be I'm, not He's because the song is written in the first person. For goodness sake, the title starts with I.

The song "The Love We Make" (one of my top 10 Prince songs of all time) has numerous Biblical references or references to Christian beliefs. I can't think of specific Biblical references, but the lyrics are below and I have bolded the Biblical/Christian references that I see. If I am missing any, please let me know!

"The Love We Make"

206Michelle said:

Lovejunky said:

YES...Especially since in the later years he changed the Lyrics from

IM YOUR Messiah

TO

HE,s YOur Messiah

It was Prince's song, so it's not for me to say what wording he should use, but it would make sense for the word to be I'm, not He's because the song is written in the first person. For goodness sake, the title starts with I.

Im not sure what you are meaning here Michelle..

Im not suggesting anything...

All I know is that in Later Years in LIVE performances he sang

"He,s your Messiah "

Emancipation

Ever since that Eve did unto Adam, alright
What somebody been sho'nuff doin' 2 me (Watch it!)

Planet Earth

Biblical/Christian references are in bold.

Imagine holding Planet Earth
In the palm of your hand
With no regard for your place of birth
Or claim to any land

The only thing between us now is the truth we understand
If Planet Earth was in the palm of your hand

50 years from now what will they say about us here?
Did we care for the water and the fragile atmosphere?

There are only 2 kinds of folk
And the difference they make
The ones that give
And the ones that take

[Chorus:]
Just like the countless bodies
That revolve around the sun
Planet Earth must now come into balance with the one,
That caused it all to be
Then we'll see His kingdom come,
So shall it be written, so shall it be sung

Imagine you could rid the Earth
Of anyone you choose
Which ones would you need the most
And which ones would you lose?

Do we want to judge another
Lest we be judged too?
Careful now... The next one might be you

[Chorus]

Imagine sending your first born
Off to fight a war
With no good reason how it started and what they are fighting for
And if they're blessed to make it home
Will they still be poor?

Pray for peace right now and forever more

[Chorus x2]

TrivialPursuit said:

206Michelle said:

The Cross

I mean..... it doesn't really directly reference a specific scripture. It's more of just one of Prince's spiritual songs in general. "Anna Stesia" is in the same vein, IMO.

I beg to differ. Prince is clearly referencing the Second Coming of Christ in "The Cross."

--

Black day, stormy night
No love, no hope in sight
Don't cry, he is coming
Don't die without knowing the cross

--

There are many references to the Second Coming of Christ in the Bible. Here is one example:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17: For the Lord himself, with a word of command, with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Lion Of Judah

-

Sitting on the floor of an all white room
Feeling like the color blue
Thinking about the words that I can use
2 get this through 2 U
-
A million mistakes and then some
I've made with the 1's B4
I probably passed my expiration date
But still I adore U... Adore U...
-
Looking 4 the energy 2 take U there
The place's that U wanna go
Knowing if I do, U'r fully aware
The press will turn it in to a show (A show)
-
Everyone expects this outcome
But still they jump 4 all the crew
I Guess should be happy but I'm still not
Sure that U realy love me...
-
Love me... Love me... Love me... U love me...
-
[Chorus:]
Like the Lion of Judah (Judah)
I Strike my enemys down
As my God is living
Surely the trumpet will sound
There was 1 who would stand by my side
Through the good and the bad
Let that 1 stand with pride
The best that I ever had
-
Like the lion of judah
-
Driving away with a smile on my face
Wind blowing through my hair
Wondering how U'll feel when U find out
How much I really care (I care)
-
Hoping that the tears roll down U'r face (Down U'r face)
Your body grasp who we are (Who are we?)
2 gypsy beggars who only by Vegas
Came 2 be a star
(A super star)
A star
That's what we are...
-
[Chorus]
-
Like the Lion of Judah (Judah)
I strike my enemys down
Like the lion of judah (Judah)
Surely U....gonna hear the trupet sound
Hear the trumpet will sound
-
(ohhh)
Lion... Judah... Judah...
-
The Lion of Judah

--

Bible verse: Revelation 5:5: One of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. The lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has triumphed, enabling him to open the scroll with its seven seals.”

What about the whole Rainbow Children album?

Thank yall so much for this thread and sharing.

Lovejunky said:

206Michelle said:

It was Prince's song, so it's not for me to say what wording he should use, but it would make sense for the word to be I'm, not He's because the song is written in the first person. For goodness sake, the title starts with I.

Im not sure what you are meaning here Michelle..

Im not suggesting anything...

All I know is that in Later Years in LIVE performances he sang

"He,s your Messiah "

Basically I was saying that it seems weird to change the wording from I'm to He's given that the song is written in the first person.

206Michelle said:

Lovejunky said:

Im not sure what you are meaning here Michelle..

Im not suggesting anything...

All I know is that in Later Years in LIVE performances he sang

"He,s your Messiah "

Basically I was saying that it seems weird to change the wording from I'm to He's given that the song is written in the first person.

Yes...

well

YOu wouldnt be the first person to think his behaviour weird..

I can totally get why he changed the Lyric...its obvious to me...

206Michelle said:

The song "The Love We Make" (one of my top 10 Prince songs of all time) has numerous Biblical references or references to Christian beliefs. I can't think of specific Biblical references, but the lyrics are below and I have bolded the Biblical/Christian references that I see. If I am missing any, please let me know!

"The Love We Make"

Desperate is the day that is 2morrow
4 those who do not know the time has come
2 whip the dogs that beg, steal or borrow
From the table God set 4 His Son

Wicked is the witch that stands 4 nothing
All the while watching 2 see U fall
Deeper than the ditch that bred your suffering
The one being dug right now by them all

Happy is the way 2 meet your burdens
No matter how heavy or dark the day
Pity on those with no hope 4 2morrow
It's never as bad as it seems until we say

Precious is the baby with a mother
That tells him that his Saviour is coming soon
All that believe will cleanse and purify themselves
Put down the needle, put down the spoon [x2]

Sacred is the prayer that asks 4 nothing, oh
While seeking 2 give thanks 4 every breath we take, oh
Blessed are we inside this prayer
4 in the new world, we will be there

The only love there is, is the love we make [x2]
(The only love there is, is the love we make)
Only love there is, only love there is
The only love there is, is the love we make (Yeah)
The only love there is, is the love we make

This is one of my favorite songs, too. I can add some verses for you.

There are multiple verses about the Savior coming soon, but this one from Revelation 22: 12 sort of sums things up (Jesus speaking):
“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.

Cleansing and purification are constant themes in the Bible. They are all over the place, mostly in the Old Testament.

The bit about the table is more of an allusion than a direct quote, but there are references in the Old and New Testaments of a feast after death or evil has been vanquished from the Earth. The Old Testament one that I can think of is from prophecy in Isaiah 25:6-9:

On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare
a feast of rich food for all peoples,
a banquet of aged wine—
the best of meats and the finest of wines.
On this mountain he will destroy
the shroud that enfolds all peoples,
the sheet that covers all nations;
he will swallow up death forever.
The Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears
from all faces;
he will remove his people’s disgrace
from all the earth.
The Lord has spoken.

In that day they will say,
“Surely this is our God;
we trusted in him, and he saved us.
This is the Lord, we trusted in him;
let us rejoice and be glad in his salvation.”

214 said:

What about the whole Rainbow Children album?

Lets Get Specific 214...

GO !

206Michelle said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I mean..... it doesn't really directly reference a specific scripture. It's more of just one of Prince's spiritual songs in general. "Anna Stesia" is in the same vein, IMO.

I beg to differ. Prince is clearly referencing the Second Coming of Christ in "The Cross."

--

Black day, stormy night
No love, no hope in sight
Don't cry, he is coming
Don't die without knowing the cross

--

There are many references to the Second Coming of Christ in the Bible. Here is one example:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17: For the Lord himself, with a word of command, with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Thus we shall always be with the Lord.

This is SO GOOD

pah said:

206Michelle said:

The song "The Love We Make" (one of my top 10 Prince songs of all time) has numerous Biblical references or references to Christian beliefs. I can't think of specific Biblical references, but the lyrics are below and I have bolded the Biblical/Christian references that I see. If I am missing any, please let me know!

"The Love We Make"

Desperate is the day that is 2morrow
4 those who do not know the time has come
2 whip the dogs that beg, steal or borrow
From the table God set 4 His Son

Wicked is the witch that stands 4 nothing
All the while watching 2 see U fall
Deeper than the ditch that bred your suffering
The one being dug right now by them all

Happy is the way 2 meet your burdens
No matter how heavy or dark the day
Pity on those with no hope 4 2morrow
It's never as bad as it seems until we say

Precious is the baby with a mother
That tells him that his Saviour is coming soon
All that believe will cleanse and purify themselves
Put down the needle, put down the spoon [x2]

Sacred is the prayer that asks 4 nothing, oh
While seeking 2 give thanks 4 every breath we take, oh
Blessed are we inside this prayer
4 in the new world, we will be there

The only love there is, is the love we make [x2]
(The only love there is, is the love we make)
Only love there is, only love there is
The only love there is, is the love we make (Yeah)
The only love there is, is the love we make

This is one of my favorite songs, too. I can add some verses for you.

There are multiple verses about the Savior coming soon, but this one from Revelation 22: 12 sort of sums things up (Jesus speaking):
“Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.

Cleansing and purification are constant themes in the Bible. They are all over the place, mostly in the Old Testament.

The bit about the table is more of an allusion than a direct quote, but there are references in the Old and New Testaments of a feast after death or evil has been vanquished from the Earth. The Old Testament one that I can think of is from prophecy in Isaiah 25:6-9:

The New Testament reference is commonly referred to as "the marriage supper of the Lamb" (the Lamb is a reference to Jesus) and symbolizes the final, permanent union of Christ with the church. In Revelation 19:9, John the apostle/St. John writes:
Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

Later in the chapter, those who do not get invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb (those in rebellion against God, which is the subject of the previous chapters) are destroyed by Jesus, who this time is portrayed as a warrior. They are left in the battlefield, and their bodies are eaten by the birds. This is called "the great supper of God". It's not a direct quote, but I can see a correlation (in the song) between the days being "desparate" for evil people who don't know that the end is coming, since it all ends so awfully in this passage. This also may lend some insight to the beginning of the song Wedding Feast, where it says, "The banished ones are gone for good, gone for good" and they have a feast to celebrate.

The passage for this is long, but it's in Revelation 19:11-21, where John writes:

I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

king of kings and lord of lords.

And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God,so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”

Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

Cant tell you how happy this post and this thread is making me...

Thank you for your input

206Michelle said:

Planet Earth

Do we want to judge another
Lest we be judged too?
Careful now... The next one might be you

The reference for that is in two places (both Jesus speaking), and it's interesting that it's put in a positive way in Luke 6:37:

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

and as a warning in Matthew 7:1-2:

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

The use of "judge" here is more like "be judgmental" (acting as if you are God), not discernment (knowing right from wrong/using good judgment).

From Free:

So don't sleep until you're guilty, cause sinners all are we.

Romans 3:22-24 (written by Paul):

This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

pah said:

From What It Feels Like:

Been a couple hundred hours since I got your call
You use to treat me like David, but now I feel like Saul
Been making it rain all around the world
What difference does it make when the boy ain't got his girl?

Kings David and Saul had a rocky relationship. Even though Saul was king, it was David (a boy) who killed Goliath when no one else (including Saul) was willing to try. That story is recorded in 1 Samuel 17. Saul was impressed with David and moved him to live with the king's family, and David became a great warrior and a close friend to Saul's son. But when the people, especially the women, began to praise him more highly than Saul, Saul began to hate David, eventually trying to kill him. From 1 Samuel 18:5-9:

Whatever mission Saul sent him on, David was so successful that Saul gave him a high rank in the army. This pleased all the troops, and Saul’s officers as well.

When the men were returning home after David had killed the Philistine, the women came out from all the towns of Israel to meet King Saul with singing and dancing, with joyful songs and with timbrels and lyres.As they danced, they sang:

“Saul has slain his thousands,

and David his tens of thousands.”

Saul was very angry; this refrain displeased him greatly. “They have credited David with tens of thousands,” he thought, “but me with only thousands. What more can he get but the kingdom?”

And from that time on Saul kept a close eye on David.

From Way Back Home:

But if u look the truth will set us free

From John 8:31-32:

To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

The rest of the passage (verses 33-47) gives more context.

pah said:

Vee0319 said:

I feel very strongly that Prince was called by God to do his work.

PRINCE BELIEVED It Himself:

"Every day I feel is a blessing from God. And I consider it a new beginning. Yeah, everything is beautiful."

"The Bible is a study guide for social interaction."

"God told us he made us in his image to create. Everything I do is inspired by God."

"And God is here, he's everywhere, he ain't dead, contrary to popular opinion. And he will come again and it will be the most beautiful, powerful, electric moment, the sky's gonna go all purple and red."

"Prophecy is what we all have to go by now. "

TrivialPursuit said:

TrivialPursuit said:

3121 itself is a scripture reference to Psalms. "Praise the LORD, for he has shown me the wonders of his unfailing love. He kept me safe when my city was under attack."

"Beautiful Loved & Blessed" references "a piece of clay", and "potter's hand". Isaiah, Jeremiah, Romans, Revelations and more reference God as the potter, and people as the clay.

"Fury" references a woman scorned. Proverbs 21:9 (NLT) "It’s better to live alone in the corner of an attic than with a quarrelsome wife in a lovely home." KJV says, "It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.". It's where the scorned woman references comes from, partly.

"Pearls B4 The Swine" is from Matthew 7:6, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

"Muse 2 The Pharoah" references Proverbs 31:10. "Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies."

It also references "Dem devil come dressed as light", which is 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." Also Matthew 7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.".

God is also references like a thief in the night when referring to the rapture. That phrase is also in "Muse".

"The Work" references "But this is the work we must do 4 Revelation 2 come 2 pass", just a mention of the prophecies in the book.

"Everywhere" mentioned the land of "milk and honey", which is where the Jews eventually ended up after the Exodus.

Triv, you sound like a verteran of "Bible Drill". King James Version of course! Either that, or you google a lot! For those that don't know, it is an activity to see how quickly you can look up a named verse and read it out to the instructor (usually a Sunday School teacher).

Lovejunky said:

darkroman said:

It's interesting to see Prince referenced comic books so much!

.

It's very sad indeed that people are still using ancient human constructs to manipulate and control one another.

.

darkroman

Im loving this thread,

I think everyone has the tendancy to manipulate and control,

Lovey, it is a dark side of human nature to want to control and manipulate others. Be strong within yourself and set your boundaries wisely. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

TrivialPursuit said:

206Michelle said:

The Cross

I mean..... it doesn't really directly reference a specific scripture. It's more of just one of Prince's spiritual songs in general. "Anna Stesia" is in the same vein, IMO.

I beg to differ...

"Save me Jesus":

Acts 16:31
Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “ Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

"Love is God, God is Love":

1 John 4:8
Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

LadyLayla said:

Triv, you sound like a verteran of "Bible Drill". King James Version of course! Either that, or you google a lot! For those that don't know, it is an activity to see how quickly you can look up a named verse and read it out to the instructor (usually a Sunday School teacher).

hahah It's a bit of both. However, there have always been moments in Prince songs that stood out to me as scripture. And while I didn't always know the exact passage, I knew it was there. I actually referenced BlueLetterBible.com, and mostly typed the KJV, although I tend to be a fan of the New Living Translation.

King James was a homo, with lots of boyfriends; and a beard wife just to produce an heir. No problem with me on that. He also introduced paganism as part of Christian theology, which I sorta have an issue with. And he never 'authorized' a translation. Anything done under any particular monarchy has that monarch's name on it. It's His Majesty's this or Her Majesty's that. I think people get confused with James the apostle and James the King, the latter of which was a big mo', who had a faith, but wasn't all thumpy about it.

All of that doesn't discredit the translation. But it's not the go-to for me.