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Reply #60 posted 10/19/16 10:40am

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OperatingThetan said:

Prince recorded every single concert, at least during the past ten years or more and literally hundreds more were professionally filmed, so there's plenty.

As for 'delaying' the unheard songs, we've not heard a single note since Prince passed, so I think the delay is already very real as the estate are more focused on paisley theme parks and trying to organise tribute gigs properly.

Some of those unreleased songs are pure classics and are part of music history. They are Prince's legacy and they deserve to be released.

There are many fans here now who are so almost purely due to the quality of these leaked recordings.

Go on YOUTUBE you will find a tresure trove of unreaelshed songs some of which I knew about but never heard or had heard on old boots that I had. A lot of never knew exsisted. He said the best stuff was in the vault and he was not kidding. I love the silly stuff like "Eggplant" and "Billy Sunglasses" or "Wonderful Ass".

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Reply #61 posted 10/19/16 10:54am

steakfinger

It's not a zero sum game, kids. Release BOTH live and studio.

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Reply #62 posted 10/19/16 2:23pm

bonatoc

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laurarichardson said:

OperatingThetan said:

Prince recorded every single concert, at least during the past ten years or more and literally hundreds more were professionally filmed, so there's plenty.

As for 'delaying' the unheard songs, we've not heard a single note since Prince passed, so I think the delay is already very real as the estate are more focused on paisley theme parks and trying to organise tribute gigs properly.

Some of those unreleased songs are pure classics and are part of music history. They are Prince's legacy and they deserve to be released.

There are many fans here now who are so almost purely due to the quality of these leaked recordings.

Go on YOUTUBE you will find a tresure trove of unreaelshed songs some of which I knew about but never heard or had heard on old boots that I had. A lot of never knew exsisted.

He said the best stuff was in the vault and he was not kidding. I love the silly stuff like "Eggplant" and "Billy Sunglasses" or "Wonderful Ass".


Billy's Sunglasses is almost a spiritual experience for me.
Prince at one point is begging Lisa to lay out a scenery for the first hints of what would become the 1988 Blue Angel playing style. Pretty abstract.

Wonderful Ass is incredible. The hi-hat programming alone. I mean, just that intro. But then you have the squashy synth, the funny coda, and then the rythm guitar comes in. It has an incredible guitar solo, with the same effect found in Shortberry Strawcake, another (somewhat) obscure masterpiece.

After hearing the astounding vocal performance on "Come Elektra Tuesday", it becomes even more indisputable that 1986 is an absolute state of grace. During one year, he's Brian Wilson, James Brown, Jackie Wilson, Lennon/McCartney, Hendrix, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan and Marvin Gaye, all at once.
Every year yields something interesting, but 1986 is really puzzling, in terms... of everything.

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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #63 posted 10/19/16 4:21pm

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udo said:



OperatingThetan said:


Prince recorded every single concert, at least during the past ten years or more and literally hundreds more were professionally filmed, so there's plenty.



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There simply is too much.


We need at least a single CD per month for the next ten years to make an interesting start.



Agreed.

I think the estate needs to provide a service for hardcore fans with other physical releases designed for a larger, more casual market.
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Reply #64 posted 10/19/16 7:39pm

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OperatingThetan said:

udo said:

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There simply is too much.

We need at least a single CD per month for the next ten years to make an interesting start.

Agreed. I think the estate needs to provide a service for hardcore fans with other physical releases designed for a larger, more casual market.

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Sounds reasonable!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #65 posted 10/19/16 7:54pm

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Reply #66 posted 10/20/16 1:29am

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I appreciate your expansion of your thoughts on this topic. I do think you're contradicting yourself somewhat though.

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I hope they do not get people that want to have some kind of artistic input in the matter.

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I believe that Prince's wishes, whatever they may have been at any given time, are not relevant in the choices that will have to be made for the coming posthumous releases.

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We can't have it both ways. I agree about not wanting people have artistic iinput in the way the posthumous releases are handled. So how can Prince's wishes - whatever can be ascertained at this point, obviously - not be the guiding principles used in determining the shape of posthumous releases?

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As you said, inevitably there will be choices made. As you pointed out, we're not aware at this time of any kind of definitive blueprint left by Prince on how to handle - short of that, there will be some manner of artistic input by outside parties.

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I think we're agreeing here. As far as artistic input, I meant "augmenting"/"updating"/"finishing" tracks by whomever. I'm fine with choices (that are artistic in themselves as well, I agree) about which tracks to add to which release, but I don't want any other tracks that sound "unfinished" to someones ears to get additions. Even if it works out like, for instance, Da Bourgeoisie, where I like the added horns. Those choices were and are Prince's to make, afaic. Since he's dead, no changes to the tracks anymore please.

Paisley Park is in your heart - Love Is Here!
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Reply #67 posted 10/20/16 1:33am

mediumdry

jaawwnn said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley_albums_discography#Follow_That_Dream_Records

http://www.elvispresleyftd.com/


Anyone got a decent name for a Prince version?

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That would be so hard... There is WB/NGP records on the one hand... what would be a good name for fan releases? In following the Elvis example (and the Graceland people are already running the Paisley Park museum), you could imagine Dream Factory Records.

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But to me, the only appropriate name would be Paisley Park Records, of course. I'd even be ok with them only selling them at Paisley Park. I'm sure us fans could set up a distribution scheme that works and would be as much a labour of love as getting the albums out correctly.

Paisley Park is in your heart - Love Is Here!
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