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Reply #60 posted 10/07/16 9:24pm

rosylo

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tmo1965 said:

Yes. I think it's the perfect place to keep his remains. For the sake of those who would be uncomfortable with him being front and center, maybe he should be placed in another part of the tour and made optional. I would love to visit with him.

Someone on Facebook who took the VIP tour stated it felt very offhand and rushed (and quite a surprise) to be told by the guide that his remains were in that PP replica..and then quickly the group had to move on to the next 'display'.

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While I DO feel Paisley Park is absolutely the right place for his remains to be, and where I think he'd want them to be, I do NOT feel the way they are currently being displayed is right (I know others' disagree but it feels wrong to me to have this quick stop to gawk at his ashes and then move on to look at some article of clothing or something...they might 'only' be ashes, but they are still 'him' - those ashes were a living person who accomplisehd so much, was loved by so many, lived an amazing life and had many, MANY facets to him and emotions and experiences...I guess to me it just feels weird to reduce the ashes to a thing to 'look at' before you head off to the gift shop and buy a keychain or a mug. :-/ Again, just stating how I personally feel.

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The suggestion made on FB was to perhaps place his remains in a smaller room, with candles and incense and other atmosphere that Prince loved, and make that an optional stop where people can stop for a bit and say their goodbyes and just reflect for awhile about this incredibe, and incredibly talented and LOVED man. I liked that idea.

Agree

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Reply #61 posted 10/07/16 9:51pm

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If that was his wish, then I'm ok. I hoped he might want to be scattered, maybe with or where the baby was scattered.

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Reply #62 posted 10/07/16 10:16pm

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Hell fuck no! I do not approve of Prince's remains being on display and gawked at as a damn tourist attraction! mad

From what I understand, the part of Paisley Park that was his actual residence is not open to the tour in any way, so that is where his remains should be, IMHO in order for him to be "home"!

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Reply #63 posted 10/07/16 11:20pm

pupa1

I don't approve!! Not only this but I'd shout down this sad circus called museum!!

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Reply #64 posted 10/07/16 11:48pm

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It's where he belongs y'all. Now and forever. Paisley Park is HIS vision realized from the ground up. The Taj Mahal is more a monument than a mausoleum and so should be (could be) PP. The difference is that PP still has life in it so long as people continue to visit, and artists continue to have a chance to create there. PP is really not like any other place, just as Prince is not like any other artist. Unlike Graceland, which is stuck in time by design, PP still has so much potential to grow -- Can you imagine how inspiring it could be for those trying to create something new that "The Artist" is still in residence?

Oh and as far as the placement of the urn in PP - the atrium is filled with natural light because of those skylights and in as much as I can see, much of the rest of PP is dark (and conducive to the type of work done there). P deserves to play in the sunshine, not languish in a dark corner just because the idea of bodily death makes us uncomfortable.

So yes, I approve of his ashes being present, front and center.

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Reply #65 posted 10/08/16 1:55am

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Marrk said:


No. sad




The ONLY way I would approve would be if someone showed me definitive proof that this was Prince's wish. Then, I would be okay with it. Otherwise, there are more...tasteful arrangements that could be done to house Prince's remains in a more dignified manner. Just my opinion, of course.



This.
100% he should be laid to rest there but as extreme as he was with his privacy I can't see him wanting to be 'on display' like that.
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Reply #66 posted 10/08/16 1:55am

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Marrk said:

No. sad




No.
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Reply #67 posted 10/08/16 2:08am

NorthC

No. Even watching mummies in the British Museum made think, damn, those were human beings, even if they lived thousands of years ago. Seeing Prince's ashes...even writing this makes me feel uneasy. I agree with everybody who says PP is the best place for him to rest and the best idea is indeed to have the urn in a special room where visitors can choose whether they want to see it or not. That way, it would be more like visiting someone's grave and I'm okay with that.
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Reply #68 posted 10/08/16 2:26am

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pupa1 said:

I don't approve!! Not only this but I'd shout down this sad circus called museum!!

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A sad circus? I'm inclined to agree, though it's difficult to call without seeing it first hand - and the chances of me ever visiting are pretty much zero. From what I've seen and read so far, it appears rushed and shallow. I appreciate others feel differently, but what this tour seems to represent isn't what Prince was to me.

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Reply #69 posted 10/08/16 2:33am

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I'm a bit surprised their isn't already a bunch of facebook fam petitions demanding a changes to the locations of the urn, guitar or car park. Maybe they are already out stalking the Council?

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Reply #70 posted 10/08/16 3:10am

Purplekiwi

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Reply #71 posted 10/08/16 3:15am

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Before the museum opened I was certainly very much against the idea of putting Prince's ashes/urn on display, I thought it was tacky almost.

But thinking about it a bit more: PP was Prince's own little purple world and he has been very happy living and working there. Why not let him rest in his own home, where he can rest and be with his fans forever more?

They might have to think about relocating the urn to a more private room in the building, although I can also see why the family put the urn in the lightest, most open area of the building.

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Reply #72 posted 10/08/16 3:31am

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If it really was his wish... who am i do disapprove? But we have no way of knowing, really.

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Reply #73 posted 10/08/16 3:54am

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No... it has bothered me ever since it was revealed that Prince's urn has been placed in the middle of the atrium. I think it's a terrible idea and insensitive to fans that are grieving, and unavoidable for those who don't want to see that. People walk in for the tour and the first thing they see is Prince's remains on display.

The museum created this situation (which is somber and emotional for some) where people see the urn on display and they might want to pause to reflect or whatever. Then, a tour guide prods people to move along and says that Prince would want you to be joyful. wtf?


Yesterday the company that designed the minature Paisley Park/urn actually put out a press release all about them designing it. Using the story behind Prince's urn to gain publicity? Fail.

I keep trying to imagine what this mini Paisley Park replica/urn looks like. Does it look hideous? I'm concerned that someone could easily steal the urn. It's just placed out on a pedestal in the middle of the room?


Imo, the atrium is the wrong location for this. There's a skylight above Prince's private apartment area at Paisley, maybe the remains could be placed there overlooking a window with natural light coming in from above or something. I like the suggestion of a more private reflection room or garden somewhere at Paisley Park where people can pay respects too.

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Reply #74 posted 10/08/16 4:39am

rogifan

Someone in the fan gathering forum who was on the tour said they're not "on display" and had the tour guide not said his ashes were there they wouldn't have noticed. I'm going to wait until I do the tour to form a firm opinion.
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Reply #75 posted 10/08/16 5:03am

BillieBalloon

NorthC said:

No. Even watching mummies in the British Museum made think, damn, those were human beings, even if they lived thousands of years ago. Seeing Prince's ashes...even writing this makes me feel uneasy. I agree with everybody who says PP is the best place for him to rest and the best idea is indeed to have the urn in a special room where visitors can choose whether they want to see it or not. That way, it would be more like visiting someone's grave and I'm okay with that.
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Sometimes decisions have to be made for the benefit of the majority and the mummies in the museum are there to inform and educate. It's about preserving a way of life and more specifically in this case educating people about how civilisations from history honoured and buried their dead. So many people, including children, are fascinated by ancient Egyptian ways of life and I for one am glad we are able to see these artifacts in reality rather than a photo. Life isn't just about Google images.

As for Prince, he is where he belongs and if that was his wish I would want to respect that.
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Reply #76 posted 10/08/16 5:13am

NorthC

^ I know that. Maybe I wouldn't mind if the mummies where still inside the graves. I also visited the mummies in Nazca, Peru. Seeing everything in the place where it belongswas a much better experience.
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Reply #77 posted 10/08/16 5:25am

BillieBalloon

NorthC said:

^ I know that. Maybe I wouldn't mind if the mummies where still inside the graves. I also visited the mummies in Nazca, Peru. Seeing everything in the place where it belongswas a much better experience.


Seeing things in their original setting is better, but how many people get to go to Egypt? Not everyone can afford it. We're fortunate that we've travelled and seen things in their place of origin. For some the closest they will get is a museum. I'm sure the mummies were loaned/given in good faith for western civilisations to appreciate.
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Reply #78 posted 10/08/16 5:29am

BillieBalloon

I think Prince is home, where he belongs.



"goodnight, sweet prince/and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest"

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Reply #79 posted 10/08/16 5:32am

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Perhaps folks have a better opportunity for closure this way, rather than being told his ashes have been sprinkled all around the grounds or in a lake elsewhere, etc.

To the extent this brings any added respect for all that PP holds, those remains may further insure the preservation of PP in the future, and that is paramount.

Perhaps legally, if its characterized as some sort of resting place because an urn with ashes are housed there, there are more protections and exemptions for the grounds, structure, premises, zoning and/or permits, tax exemptions, longer term, who knows. I'd like to think someone has their thinking cap on that way also in serving his legacy.

(Surely they couldn't have publicized this earlier, it would have been pandemonium and ya'll would have been protesting again.)

Wishing much comfort to those in pain, Understood.

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Reply #80 posted 10/08/16 5:35am

NorthC

BillieBalloon said:

NorthC said:

^ I know that. Maybe I wouldn't mind if the mummies where still inside the graves. I also visited the mummies in Nazca, Peru. Seeing everything in the place where it belongswas a much better experience.


Seeing things in their original setting is better, but how many people get to go to Egypt? Not everyone can afford it. We're fortunate that we've travelled and seen things in their place of origin. For some the closest they will get is a museum. I'm sure the mummies were loaned/given in good faith for western civilisations to appreciate.
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True. But seeing dozens of mummies inside a big glass box didn't seem like the best way to do it to me. And a lot of artifacts were simply stolen in the 19th century. But still, you're right, it gives people a chance to learn about ancient cultures and that's good. But we're straying way off topic here, so I'll leave it at this. cool
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Reply #81 posted 10/08/16 5:38am

BillieBalloon

NorthC, another time cool
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Reply #82 posted 10/08/16 5:41am

Starrdust505

PP is Prince, he put so much of himself in that place I think it's only natural for his ashes to be there. I'm not sure about the current location and was shocked and saddened when I heard that the first visitors were told without warning that his ashes were on display as they entered the Atrium and then swiftly moved onto continue their tour. This seemed to me like they are displaying him like another exhibit. I would like to know the thinking and reasoning behind placing his urn there.

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I like the ideas already posted regarding a reflection room where people can pay their respects but think they probably decided against this as it could possibly disrupt the progression of the tour. Maybe they may change it. Having seen no images, I can't make a firm decision on whether I approve or not and will see how I feel about it when I eventually (God willing) get to PP.

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Reply #83 posted 10/08/16 5:48am

partyup77

Yes. Approved and I think them being in the Paisley Park model is wonderful. I also like that they are out in the open and very visible to let visitors know that Prince is THERE.

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Reply #84 posted 10/08/16 6:19am

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From the sounds of it, reports have said it was very tasteful and respectful.

I for one am glad that Prince passed in Paisley Park and not some hospital. I believe he would want to be there. I think it's nice that he gets to rest peacfully, in the place he loved, he created, he did his creating etc.

I think those that oppose it are also the ones that oppose the family cremating him in the first place. I also don't think those people would be happy if he was sitting on Tyka's mantle or would like him burried in some cemetary. You can't please everyone, and I think Prince is where he would want to be.

Now when I tour on Oct. 14th I will let ya know how it is.

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Reply #85 posted 10/08/16 6:39am

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Yes.

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #86 posted 10/08/16 7:17am

PurpleBabied

As long as he wanted that and his family is comfortable with it, it doesn't really matter what I think.

On the plus side, his remains are guarded and the actual gravestone location is private and not known to the general public (I think). The owners of Père Lachaise have their hands full keeping people from vandalising Jim Morrison's grave with graffitti and chewing gum.

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Reply #87 posted 10/08/16 10:04am

Namelessfan

I visited the Eisenhower library in Kansas; his body is there in a tomb next to his wife and infant child and surrounded by a museum filled with books, awards, and gifts from nations all over the world. I thought it was beautiful.

It sounds like the initial presentation of Prince's remains was shocking to unprepared devout fans but I think it could be acceptable. This was Prince's home and it's filled with his music and art so it seems like it could be appropriate resting place - it depends on how it's done.
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Reply #88 posted 10/08/16 10:28am

luvgirl

If that was his wish yes. I do think it's appropriate to have his remains at Paisley Park but in a private setting only. Unless he requested otherwise, I don't think it's appropriate for everyone to gauck at it as if some kind of freak show.
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Reply #89 posted 10/08/16 10:29am

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If the urn is displayed in a respectful, tasteful way, I´m ok with it...

I think it´s nice we should be allowed to pay tributes to him, and better, in his beloved home.

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