PeteSilas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

and Mark, Mark quit

He said prince offered for him to stay and he just left with the rest right? Can't blame him though, Prince really did treat that man bad, kicked him on stage for breaking a string amongs other things.

Are you serious? Prince actually kicked Mark? And what happened. Did they get into a fight or what? I never heard that before.

PeteSilas said:

PaisleyPrint said:

PeteSilas said:

He said prince offered for him to stay and he just left with the rest right? Can't blame him though, Prince really did treat that man bad, kicked him on stage for breaking a string amongs other things.

Are you serious? Prince actually kicked Mark? And what happened. Did they get into a fight or what? I never heard that before.

i did mention that mark broke a string on stage, it's all in Poplife, long out of print, arguably the most thorough bio done on him. Interviews with his highschool music teacher, lots of stuff from dez, and the brown mark stories. supposedly, prince was paying mark a meager, less that 500 a week, i think, too. you hear different things though, alan leeds says prince was "very generous" in alan lights book. fink and bobby z have never said one iota of anything negative about Prince, bobby, in particular makes a point of prince being completely fair to him and having nothing to complain about.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yeah she would, she is the co creator of the song and has writing credits.

She decided to do it when she realized someone else was doing the same thing. Trying to make money off of the song. So I'm all for her doing it. And anyone else from any time with Prince who were co creator/co writer or the meat of the song came from their lives.

That is like people being upset if the Revolution or NPG wants to see an unreleased album released soon. And people call them money grubbers. Yet bootleggers can make album art cd cases and sell and make money off the same unreleased albums yet no one accuses them of being money grubbers.

Does she have writers credit? Does she own half lthe copywrite on the song? Because Prince would put people's names on the song but they were not registered as co-writers. Has Susan ever received a royalty check? Prince called bootleggers money grubbers all the time. We are seeing the true colors of some of his protegees and maybe Prince was not wrong to cut some of them off.

I'm trying to follow this thread but am confused. Is this "Susan" short for Susannah (Melvoin) or are you talking about Susan (Moonsie)? Speaking of Susan Moonsie, she wrote Drive Me Wild for Vanity 6. Did she not?

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PaisleyPrint said:

laurarichardson said:

Does she have writers credit? Does she own half lthe copywrite on the song? Because Prince would put people's names on the song but they were not registered as co-writers. Has Susan ever received a royalty check? Prince called bootleggers money grubbers all the time. We are seeing the true colors of some of his protegees and maybe Prince was not wrong to cut some of them off.

I'm trying to follow this thread but am confused. Is this "Susan" short for Susannah (Melvoin) or are you talking about Susan (Moonsie)? Speaking of Susan Moonsie, she wrote Drive Me Wild for Vanity 6. Did she not?

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Susannah Melvoin(Starfish & Coffee) she has writing credit.

lol Prince had a lot of important Susans back then
Susan Moonsie Susan Rogers Susannah Melvoin and there is one more I can't pull her name

also Susy Davis(Sheila E band)

PeteSilas said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Are you serious? Prince actually kicked Mark? And what happened. Did they get into a fight or what? I never heard that before.

i did mention that mark broke a string on stage, it's all in Poplife, long out of print, arguably the most thorough bio done on him. Interviews with his highschool music teacher, lots of stuff from dez, and the brown mark stories. supposedly, prince was paying mark a meager, less that 500 a week, i think, too. you hear different things though, alan leeds says prince was "very generous" in alan lights book. fink and bobby z have never said one iota of anything negative about Prince, bobby, in particular makes a point of prince being completely fair to him and having nothing to complain about.

He did say he was around Prince & Larry Graham around 2000 and they were saying some pretty homophobic and anti-semetic stuff. But it was simply like that, an obvservation.

PeteSilas said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Are you serious? Prince actually kicked Mark? And what happened. Did they get into a fight or what? I never heard that before.

i did mention that mark broke a string on stage, it's all in Poplife, long out of print, arguably the most thorough bio done on him. Interviews with his highschool music teacher, lots of stuff from dez, and the brown mark stories. supposedly, prince was paying mark a meager, less that 500 a week, i think, too. you hear different things though, alan leeds says prince was "very generous" in alan lights book. fink and bobby z have never said one iota of anything negative about Prince, bobby, in particular makes a point of prince being completely fair to him and having nothing to complain about.

Whether he broke a string or not, that's pretty f*cked up to be kicking someone for something they didn't do intentionally. I wonder if he kicked/hit Morris Day first during the filming of PR which started the fist fight between them. Smh ... Damn! I wonder what type of father he'd have been had he had kids?

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PaisleyPrint said:

PeteSilas said:

i did mention that mark broke a string on stage, it's all in Poplife, long out of print, arguably the most thorough bio done on him. Interviews with his highschool music teacher, lots of stuff from dez, and the brown mark stories. supposedly, prince was paying mark a meager, less that 500 a week, i think, too. you hear different things though, alan leeds says prince was "very generous" in alan lights book. fink and bobby z have never said one iota of anything negative about Prince, bobby, in particular makes a point of prince being completely fair to him and having nothing to complain about.

Whether he broke a string or not, that's pretty f*cked up to be kicking someone for something they didn't do intentionally. I wonder if he kicked/hit Morris Day first during the filming of PR which started the fist fight between them. Smh ... Damn! I wonder what type of father he'd have been had he had kids?

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who knows, he's always been kind around kids from any source i've heard. there was also a guy here, blackguitarist I think, could be wrong, who hinted that prince got his ass kicked sometimes too. he didn't give no more details but it sounded like he and andre had some dragouts. guy that little, i'd just push back, wouldn't even have to use any force on him but i definitely wouldn't let him kick me, even though he's my idol.

PeteSilas said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Whether he broke a string or not, that's pretty f*cked up to be kicking someone for something they didn't do intentionally. I wonder if he kicked/hit Morris Day first during the filming of PR which started the fist fight between them. Smh ... Damn! I wonder what type of father he'd have been had he had kids?

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who knows, he's always been kind around kids from any source i've heard. there was also a guy here, blackguitarist I think, could be wrong, who hinted that prince got his ass kicked sometimes too. he didn't give no more details but it sounded like he and andre had some dragouts. guy that little, i'd just push back, wouldn't even have to use any force on him but i definitely wouldn't let him kick me, even though he's my idol.

Yeah, I could tell Andre (Cymone) wasn't no sh*t taker. And the thing about Morris Day crying is just too much. No way in the world I would let another man make me cry He must've really wanted a music career. I know he (Prince) was probably kind around other peoples kids but I was just wondering if he would have been as hard on little Ahmir (had he lived) as his dad was on him, if not more so. Especially given the fact that I don't think Prince was capable of loving any one. Not even his wives. Would have been interesting to see if his son, his own flesh and blood would have been able to break down the (so called) barriers that P had built up over the years from being abandoned by his parents and so forth. Even though I don't think he and Mayte's marriage would have lasted even if the child had lived, I wonder if he would have distanced himself from his child, made him pay for concert tickets ect. just cause he wasn't with the mother

(Mayte) anymore. Yeah, those sorta things...I wonder...

PaisleyPrint said:

PeteSilas said:

who knows, he's always been kind around kids from any source i've heard. there was also a guy here, blackguitarist I think, could be wrong, who hinted that prince got his ass kicked sometimes too. he didn't give no more details but it sounded like he and andre had some dragouts. guy that little, i'd just push back, wouldn't even have to use any force on him but i definitely wouldn't let him kick me, even though he's my idol.

Yeah, I could tell Andre (Cymone) wasn't no sh*t taker. And the thing about Morris Day crying is just too much. No way in the world I would let another man make me cry He must've really wanted a music career. I know he (Prince) was probably kind around other peoples kids but I was just wondering if he would have been as hard on little Ahmir (had he lived) as his dad was on him, if not more so. Especially given the fact that I don't think Prince was capable of loving any one. Not even his wives. Would have been interesting to see if his son, his own flesh and blood would have been able to break down the (so called) barriers that P had built up over the years from being abandoned by his parents and so forth. Even though I don't think he and Mayte's marriage would have lasted even if the child had lived, I wonder if he would have distanced himself from his child, made him pay for concert tickets ect. just cause he wasn't with the mother

(Mayte) anymore. Yeah, those sorta things...I wonder...

make the little fucker pay for tickets, haha.

PeteSilas said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Yeah, I could tell Andre (Cymone) wasn't no sh*t taker. And the thing about Morris Day crying is just too much. No way in the world I would let another man make me cry He must've really wanted a music career. I know he (Prince) was probably kind around other peoples kids but I was just wondering if he would have been as hard on little Ahmir (had he lived) as his dad was on him, if not more so. Especially given the fact that I don't think Prince was capable of loving any one. Not even his wives. Would have been interesting to see if his son, his own flesh and blood would have been able to break down the (so called) barriers that P had built up over the years from being abandoned by his parents and so forth. Even though I don't think he and Mayte's marriage would have lasted even if the child had lived, I wonder if he would have distanced himself from his child, made him pay for concert tickets ect. just cause he wasn't with the mother

(Mayte) anymore. Yeah, those sorta things...I wonder...

make the little fucker pay for tickets, haha.

LMAO! No, no PeteSilas. I meant when he got older. He would've been 19 this year.

PaisleyPrint said:

BillieBalloon said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Yeah, I could tell Andre (Cymone) wasn't no sh*t taker. And the thing about Morris Day crying is just too much. No way in the world I would let another man make me cry He must've really wanted a music career. I know he (Prince) was probably kind around other peoples kids but I was just wondering if he would have been as hard on little Ahmir (had he lived) as his dad was on him, if not more so. Especially given the fact that I don't think Prince was capable of loving any one. Not even his wives. Would have been interesting to see if his son, his own flesh and blood would have been able to break down the (so called) barriers that P had built up over the years from being abandoned by his parents and so forth. Even though I don't think he and Mayte's marriage would have lasted even if the child had lived, I wonder if he would have distanced himself from his child, made him pay for 3concert tickets ect. just cause he wasn't with the mother

(Mayte) anymore. Yeah, those sorta things...I wonder...

Yeah..well don't wonder. Prince was not capable of loving anyone? He wouldn't have loved his son then either would he? You didn't know him personally so you have no idea. Do yourself a favour and stop wondering such rubbish.

No, you do yourself and me a favor and stop telling others what to think or how to feel. This is my brain, mind and psyche. I think and feel what I want! Got it!?

I am sorry but I think you are being way too harsh. A man that incapable of love would have been mourned by very very few if any people at all. Mark said he cried when Prince died. Unless every single person who stated that his death was upsetting or devastating to them was a massive liar than I would say Prince understood and displayed love for others at least half the time. Would he have been a good dad?--maybe not, maybe so...or maybe somewhere in the middle. People can feel love and still not know how to conduct themselves or how to remain faithful.

About the kicking Mark stuff--How hard did he kick him? Is it even true? Was he kidding? Was he getting his attention? How many thousands of strings snapped during Prince's 40 years of entertaining? That dude's little ass would been kicked thousands of times if he kicked every guitarist whose strings snapped.

I am not going to tell you how to feel but I assume that Prince was not a sociopath. His 'love' may have not been ideal or perfect or consistent, but I believe that most people are capable to love (as imperfect as their love may be) and he was no different. You can't sing believably about love if you have no concept of what it is or how it feels.

He certainly seemed like he was capable of human emotion (beyond ambitiion and envy) despite his many flaws and despite his tendencies to let those around him down. Besides, nobody is going to report on normal decent behavior because it is [rightfully] just expected of everyone. THe mistakes and misdeeds are what they dwell on because unfortunately they are more interesting.

Since I didn't know him personally I will indeed give the man the benefit of the doubt. And despite his parents letting him down, I bet there was love there as well. Was there enough love? Maybe not? But you don't nickname your son "Skipper" and not feel at least some affection. He also had aunts, grandparents, a sister, and Andre's mom to show him love. HIs dad was not the only adult in his life and even Prince said that his dad at times could be lovely (obviously, JOhn Nelson could also be a dick, I know). Love is never perfect and some people are bad at expressing it (and sometimes self interest and self-protection gets in in the way). But most people are capable of feeling love.

PaisleyPrint said:

BillieBalloon said:

PaisleyPrint said: Yeah..well don't wonder. Prince was not capable of loving anyone? He wouldn't have loved his son then either would he? You didn't know him personally so you have no idea. Do yourself a favour and stop wondering such rubbish.

No, you do yourself and me a favor and stop telling others what to think or how to feel. This is my brain, mind and psyche. I think and feel what I want! Got it!?

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purplerabbithole said:

I am not going to tell you how to feel but Prince was not a sociopath. His 'love' may have not been ideal or perfect or consistent, but I believe that most people are capable to love (as imperfect as their love may be) and he was no different. You can't sing believably about love if you have no concept of what it is.

He certainly seemed like he was capable of human emotion (beyond ambitiion and envy) despite his many flaws and despite his tendencies to let those around him down. Nobody is going to report on normal decent behavior because it is [rightfuly] just expected of everyone. THe mistakes and misdeeds are what they dwell on because unfortunately they are more interesting.

Since I didn't know him personally I will indeed give the man the benefit of the doubt. And despite his parents letting him down, I bet there was love there as well. Love is never perfect and some people are bad at expressing it. But most people are capable of feeling it (as fleeting as it sometimes is).

PaisleyPrint said:

No, you do yourself and me a favor and stop telling others what to think or how to feel. This is my brain, mind and psyche. I think and feel what I want! Got it!?

Yeah, you got a point there Purplerabbit. I should have made myself more clear in my post. What I meant was, I don't think Prince was capable of "unconditonal" love (I'm kind of tired tonight and didn't feel like writing a long psychoanalysis on the man) For ex: He seemed to be in love with Mayte but the minute they started having fertility problems he jumped ship. And as far as his band members/proteges ect., he was the same way, When they didn't do something right or live up to his expectations, agree with him or whatever the case may have been, he would either be ready to fight them, punish them (in whatever way he saw fit) or do/say something "not-so-pleasant" to them. Another example: I read in another thread on here where he had called Susannah Melvoin on the phone and asked if she was busy, she said, "Yes, but not too busy that I can't talk to you", or someting to that effect. Prince immediatley hung up on her. So, I said all that to say this: I wondered if there was "anyone" in his personal life that he loved no matter what. And I wondered if that person could have been his child/children (if he had any) cause he sure gave a lot of people HELL, there ain't no denying that. I think that person just might have been his child. God KNOWS I wished I could have seen it. That's all I'm sayin'. Thanks for the positive feedback. BilleBalloon's smart alecky remark got on my bad side

i really don't see prince as that bad a person. we all have flaws, some people manage to keep them private and never have them come out. Look at bill cosby, he had everyone fooled for decades, and although I think he's a sick fuck, i really don't know if I'd even call him evil, just human. Prince however, always seemed to have his ugly side out in the open and so i think he can come across as a bad guy. I don't see it that way any more really, we're all pretty flawed, i've done and i do awful things against my better judgement, but really, no one cares because i'm a no one. If i had a worlds attention on those things, i'd look like a psychopath too. Anyway, as I've gotten older, I don't think prince was as bad as I used to think he was when I was a teen and read stories. and moreover, i have said multiple times how proud I am when all those stories come out about him now, you know, that's not common for a person to change that radically, not easy either, he had to have some kind of spiritual life. So, no, he wasn't that bad, you give me a choice between a cosby, a person who is skilled at hiding his sins, and boy i've known some doozies, and prince, a guy who didn't do a lot of faking, i'll take Prince everytime.

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PaisleyPrint said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplerabbithole said:

purplerabbithole said:

I agree. Its a pretty one-sided take of Prince. I don't agree with where his politics went (in some cases), but he did seem like an easier guy to be around.

I recently re-read the stuff about his working on New Girl (these articles and interviews were released when he was alive) . And everyone seemed to love him on that set--legitimately. It wasn't "he's cool" kind of praise...it was glowing flowerly praise.

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rogifan said:

I'd love to hear more from band members from the 2000s onward. I don't think Prince in the 90s was in a very good place. I see a lot of anger and not the happiness and joy you got from him later in life. People can hate on Larry all they want or hate that Prince became a JW but I honestly think it made him a better human being.

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Are those glowing reviews before or after he refused to be on the show with The Kardashians on the episode as well.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Yes Prince was a great performer and such but he could be a stone class diva or hard-ass, LOL! And nobody is really going to have too much negative to say about PRince because he was....Prince.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Susannah Melvoin(Starfish & Coffee) she has writing credit.

lol Prince had a lot of important Susans back then
Susan Moonsie Susan Rogers Susannah Melvoin and there is one more I can't pull her name

also Susy Davis(Sheila E band)

--If Susan Melvoin has a writing credit that is registed with the copyright office then she can do something about people making shirts and mugs off of the lyrics. I question if she is a registered copyright holder. Prince sticking her name in the album credits means nothing. [Edited 9/9/16 7:12am]

U obviously don't want her 2 have credit, so I don't know what else to say, but that it is her story the song came from...

laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:

I am sorry but I think you are being way too harsh. A man that incapable of love would have been mourned by very very few if any people at all. Mark said he cried when Prince died. Unless every single person who stated that his death was upsetting or devastating to them was a massive liar than I would say Prince understood and displayed love for others at least half the time. Would he have been a good dad?--maybe not, maybe so...or maybe somewhere in the middle. People can feel love and still not know how to conduct themselves or how to remain faithful.

About the kicking Mark stuff--How hard did he kick him? Is it even true? Was he kidding? Was he getting his attention? How many thousands of strings snapped during Prince's 40 years of entertaining? That dude's little ass would been kicked thousands of times if he kicked every guitarist whose strings snapped.

I am not going to tell you how to feel but I assume that Prince was not a sociopath. His 'love' may have not been ideal or perfect or consistent, but I believe that most people are capable to love (as imperfect as their love may be) and he was no different. You can't sing believably about love if you have no concept of what it is or how it feels.

He certainly seemed like he was capable of human emotion (beyond ambitiion and envy) despite his many flaws and despite his tendencies to let those around him down. Besides, nobody is going to report on normal decent behavior because it is [rightfully] just expected of everyone. THe mistakes and misdeeds are what they dwell on because unfortunately they are more interesting.

Since I didn't know him personally I will indeed give the man the benefit of the doubt. And despite his parents letting him down, I bet there was love there as well. Was there enough love? Maybe not? But you don't nickname your son "Skipper" and not feel at least some affection. He also had aunts, grandparents, a sister, and Andre's mom to show him love. HIs dad was not the only adult in his life and even Prince said that his dad at times could be lovely (obviously, JOhn Nelson could also be a dick, I know). Love is never perfect and some people are bad at expressing it (and sometimes self interest and self-protection gets in in the way). But most people are capable of feeling love.

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--- Co-sign. According to people who knew him growing up he was good with hands. I don't for one minute he was a bully but you can't sit back and let people whip your ass. For the record it is supposed to be Morris that first took the first swing. [Edited 9/9/16 7:19am]

I think when he had Big Chick, though, just maybe...

BillieBalloon said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Yeah, you got a point there Purplerabbit. I should have made myself more clear in my post. What I meant was, I don't think Prince was capable of "unconditonal" love (I'm kind of tired tonight and didn't feel like writing a long psychoanalysis on the man) For ex: He seemed to be in love with Mayte but the minute they started having fertility problems he jumped ship. And as far as his band members/proteges ect., he was the same way, When they didn't do something right or live up to his expectations, agree with him or whatever the case may have been, he would either be ready to fight them, punish them (in whatever way he saw fit) or do/say something "not-so-pleasant" to them. Another example: I read in another thread on here where he had called Susannah Melvoin on the phone and asked if she was busy, she said, "Yes, but not too busy that I can't talk to you", or someting to that effect. Prince immediatley hung up on her. So, I said all that to say this: I wondered if there was "anyone" in his personal life that he loved no matter what. And I wondered if that person could have been his child/children (if he had any) cause he sure gave a lot of people HELL, there ain't no denying that. I think that person just might have been his child. God KNOWS I wished I could have seen it. That's all I'm sayin'. Thanks for the positive feedback. BilleBalloon's smart alecky remark got on my bad side

If Prince could donate thousands to multiple charities including ones for orphans why would he make his own flesh and blood child pay for concert tickets? According to you everything was Prince's fault regardless of the circumstances. He was capable of unconditional love..he loved his Father even though he had a terrible upbringing. He loved his mother..is that enough evidence for you? Prince was a human being and it saddens me the way some people paint him as this monster incapable of loving anyone. Why are you speculating about a dead child? and how much prince may or may not have loved his son..it's extremely tacky and downright mean. Prince WANTED children and was not able to have them. What more can one say when faced with comments such as yours...

BillieBalloon, I was being somewhat facetious and was relating a story of P supposedly making Mayte pay for tickets to his concerts. I never said "everything" was P's fault, and sorry if my comments made him seem like a monster. And while I'm on the subject, Prince himself told Tavis Smiley that he had a "mean streak" (I didn't say it, P did) I don't believe P would have been a child abuser or any sh*t like that, I'm talking about once his son/daughter was grown, would he have given them that "attitude" that he sometimes gave people around him, that's all Im sayin'. Speaking of tacky and mean: When Bobby Brown's daughter, Bobbi Kristina was on life support in the hospital, there were people on YouTube saying they hoped she dies (smdh!). Now that was not only tacky and mean, it was downright sick and twisted. So me wondering how someone's relationship with their child/children would have been had they had any is not "mean" or "tacky". It's just a thought, that's all. Also, would have been interesting to see him raise a daughter in particular (considering his history with women). Don't know, but I'd imagine him being super over protective of her.

GhostChick said:

The story I read was that they were discussing party scenes with Prince. And apparently, they had already shot some footage. He basically said I hope you didn't put the Kardashians in those scenes. So, the director went "Oh Shit" and basically got rid of the footage. They were trying to make Prince happy but I am not sure it was a direct order.

I still contend that everyone enjoyed him on the set. I listened to interviews with two of the cast members (other than Dechannel and the director who also spoke glowingly of Prince) and they were really enthusiastic about how funny he was and even acted a little suprised that he was as nice as he was.

They could have just said he was a pro and cool. But they were gushing. It would be kind of overkill if he were being a prick.

Its hard for me to feel much sympathy for the Kardashians. They are famous for doing nothing, and Prince essentially worked himself to death (whatever the specific reasons for the drugs, Prince still took them so he could work.)

Also, there is some mystery revolving about P and Kardashians. When he kicked Kim off the stage (which at the time many thought was more of joke because she was too chicken to dance). She stated afterwards on twitter that she redeemed herself that night by dancing in front of him or near him when he played in after show or something). I am not sure if it is true. But who knows what's going on with him and the Kardashians. I also remember reading a rumor somewhere that Kanye slammed on Prince's band.

Plenty of people talk badly about Prince(or relate some seemingly diva-like behavior) even people he continued with work with. It is almost like telling people you saw Frank Sinatra with a mobster.

GhostChick said:

purplerabbithole said:

I agree. Its a pretty one-sided take of Prince. I don't agree with where his politics went (in some cases), but he did seem like an easier guy to be around.

I recently re-read the stuff about his working on New Girl (these articles and interviews were released when he was alive) . And everyone seemed to love him on that set--legitimately. It wasn't "he's cool" kind of praise...it was glowing flowerly praise.

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Are those glowing reviews before or after he refused to be on the show with The Kardashians on the episode as well.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Yes Prince was a great performer and such but he could be a stone class diva or hard-ass, LOL! And nobody is really going to have too much negative to say about PRince because he was....Prince.

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PeteSilas said:

GhostChick said:

No I am not saying that the ones that are keeping it real are the ones talking about his flaws.

However, when it comes to women and his dealings with romantic relationships, yes I do think that Wendy & Lisa keeps it real, when it comes to that topic. I think, for some reason, a lot of female posters on this org will defend Prince about his relationships with certain people. And I'm looking like, really?

Prince was NO saint BUT he did have a mean side to him, in his dealings with some people. And I get that. But I think that for some reason, people are forgetting that or making him seem like he is the victim in a lot of this stuff. A lot of drama, Prince himself created.

But I listen to this man pretty much every day. Before his death. Prince's music was a natural part of the soundtrack of my life. And despite my constant ramblings about how mean he could be, in all honestly, I miss him a lot.

Has Lisa ever really said anything critical of Prince? I think people lump W&L together when it's just Wendy, the mores assertive half, doing all the talking.

Yes. I am not one of those people who would lump W&L together.

I also know what I am talking about as well so....

BillieBalloon said:

PaisleyPrint said:

Yeah, I could tell Andre (Cymone) wasn't no sh*t taker. And the thing about Morris Day crying is just too much. No way in the world I would let another man make me cry He must've really wanted a music career. I know he (Prince) was probably kind around other peoples kids but I was just wondering if he would have been as hard on little Ahmir (had he lived) as his dad was on him, if not more so. Especially given the fact that I don't think Prince was capable of loving any one. Not even his wives. Would have been interesting to see if his son, his own flesh and blood would have been able to break down the (so called) barriers that P had built up over the years from being abandoned by his parents and so forth. Even though I don't think he and Mayte's marriage would have lasted even if the child had lived, I wonder if he would have distanced himself from his child, made him pay for 3concert tickets ect. just cause he wasn't with the mother

(Mayte) anymore. Yeah, those sorta things...I wonder...

Yeah..well don't wonder. Prince was not capable of loving anyone? He wouldn't have loved his son then either would he? You didn't know him personally so you have no idea. Do yourself a favour and stop wondering such rubbish.

Thank you!

Some of ya'll act like ya'll know what was in his mind, how he would think. Everything.

The fact of the matter is, Prince is gone. And unless we have viral proof or at least an interview in a reputal magazine, we don't know what really happened.

So of you all will believe anything and any story.