I was doing some reading about Dr. Howard Kornfeld, and it doesn't paint a pretty picture. Here is just a snipit of one person's horror story.....

From Heavy.com:

Scarey.

purplethunder3121 said:

Scarey.

I know......reading stuff like this only breaks my heart even more! To quote Dr. Drew Pinsky.....he always said this....."Standard care is the best care".......because often times, a celebrity (famous person), or a person with extreme wealth often do NOT get the standard care, which is the BEST care. I always remember what he said, and it's true!

U know what I don't get about P and other "high profile" clients Dr's have? 4 most of us money poses a problem/barrier 2 good health care. I've always found it so odd that when money isn't an issue ppl are supplied with whatever they want usually by shady Dr's and less than subpar healthcare.

1 would think ppl like P would do some background checking on ppl that would be taking over his health. Heck I look into ANY Dr that I potentially even think about going 2. While these are internet reviews and ppl can say whatever they want, when U got a line of dead bodies after ppl see a certain Dr. something isn't right. We as patients are regulated and watched like a hawk anymore but whose doing the same and watching the Dr's?

ACharmed1 said:

U know what I don't get about P and other "high profile" clients Dr's have? 4 most of us money poses a problem/barrier 2 good health care. I've always found it so odd that when money isn't an issue ppl are supplied with whatever they want usually by shady Dr's and less than subpar healthcare.

1 would think ppl like P would do some background checking on ppl that would be taking over his health. Heck I look into ANY Dr that I potentially even think about going 2. While these are internet reviews and ppl can say whatever they want, when U got a line of dead bodies after ppl see a certain Dr. something isn't right. We as patients are regulated and watched like a hawk anymore but whose doing the same and watching the Dr's?

Exactly.

ACharmed1 said:

U know what I don't get about P and other "high profile" clients Dr's have? 4 most of us money poses a problem/barrier 2 good health care. I've always found it so odd that when money isn't an issue ppl are supplied with whatever they want usually by shady Dr's and less than subpar healthcare.

1 would think ppl like P would do some background checking on ppl that would be taking over his health. Heck I look into ANY Dr that I potentially even think about going 2. While these are internet reviews and ppl can say whatever they want, when U got a line of dead bodies after ppl see a certain Dr. something isn't right. We as patients are regulated and watched like a hawk anymore but whose doing the same and watching the Dr's?

ACharmed.....Yes you are SO right! Prince was a very intelligent person, so I question if he inquired about Dr. Kornfeld himself.....I read that it was his "group" that reached out for help. I just don't know what to think at this point. I just wish that Prince stayed in the hospital because he should have not been at home alone. His doctor's have failed him miserably. Dr. Kornfeld should have never sent his son to PP. That was highly inappropriate, not to mention "dangerous" and "unprofessional", and even "illegal". Sorry for my rant, it just makes me upset.

cloveringold85 said:

ACharmed1 said:

U know what I don't get about P and other "high profile" clients Dr's have? 4 most of us money poses a problem/barrier 2 good health care. I've always found it so odd that when money isn't an issue ppl are supplied with whatever they want usually by shady Dr's and less than subpar healthcare.

1 would think ppl like P would do some background checking on ppl that would be taking over his health. Heck I look into ANY Dr that I potentially even think about going 2. While these are internet reviews and ppl can say whatever they want, when U got a line of dead bodies after ppl see a certain Dr. something isn't right. We as patients are regulated and watched like a hawk anymore but whose doing the same and watching the Dr's?

ACharmed.....Yes you are SO right! Prince was a very intelligent person, so I question if he inquired about Dr. Kornfeld himself.....I read that it was his "group" that reached out for help. I just don't know what to think at this point. I just wish that Prince stayed in the hospital because he should have not been at home alone. His doctor's have failed him miserably. Dr. Kornfeld should have never sent his son to PP. That was highly inappropriate, not to mention "dangerous" and "unprofessional", and even "illegal". Sorry for my rant, it just makes me upset.

Yes, if he had been monitored properly he would still be with us. I say "properly" because MJ was supposedly being monitored by a doctor (quack) and look what happened to him.

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

ACharmed.....Yes you are SO right! Prince was a very intelligent person, so I question if he inquired about Dr. Kornfeld himself.....I read that it was his "group" that reached out for help. I just don't know what to think at this point. I just wish that Prince stayed in the hospital because he should have not been at home alone. His doctor's have failed him miserably. Dr. Kornfeld should have never sent his son to PP. That was highly inappropriate, not to mention "dangerous" and "unprofessional", and even "illegal". Sorry for my rant, it just makes me upset.

Yes, if he had been monitored properly he would still be with us. I say "properly" because MJ was supposedly being monitored by a doctor (quack) and look what happened to him.

Agreed.

cloveringold85 said:

ACharmed1 said:

U know what I don't get about P and other "high profile" clients Dr's have? 4 most of us money poses a problem/barrier 2 good health care. I've always found it so odd that when money isn't an issue ppl are supplied with whatever they want usually by shady Dr's and less than subpar healthcare.

1 would think ppl like P would do some background checking on ppl that would be taking over his health. Heck I look into ANY Dr that I potentially even think about going 2. While these are internet reviews and ppl can say whatever they want, when U got a line of dead bodies after ppl see a certain Dr. something isn't right. We as patients are regulated and watched like a hawk anymore but whose doing the same and watching the Dr's?

ACharmed.....Yes you are SO right! Prince was a very intelligent person, so I question if he inquired about Dr. Kornfeld himself.....I read that it was his "group" that reached out for help. I just don't know what to think at this point. I just wish that Prince stayed in the hospital because he should have not been at home alone. His doctor's have failed him miserably. Dr. Kornfeld should have never sent his son to PP. That was highly inappropriate, not to mention "dangerous" and "unprofessional", and even "illegal". Sorry for my rant, it just makes me upset.

I agree with most of what you said, especially that he should've stayed longer in the hospital - but it's up to the patient if they want to stay. Hospitals are not prisons.

And we really don't know what was said or what happened after Prince was revived. I read something about not being able to have a private room. Privacy is great, but most hospitals are understaffed and have very little wiggle room for celebrities' needs, especially that it was an emergency landing, without any warning. Unfortuneately it was up to Prince to stay or leave, and sadly he left.

Hard to say it, but most of us don't get a second chance on life, but he did. He could have gone straight to any doctor of his choice, they are all bound by law to his privacy.

On the other hand, addiction to pain killers is stronger than most people understand, and he wasn't able to get the help he needed in time ( My dad's been in recovery for over 40 years and it's something he lives with every day.

LBrent said:

Don't be sorry for ranting. I think we ALL feel like ranting. The thing is, if you had googobs of money and were famous, wouldn't you always assume that no one would dare f*ck you over? Look at Oprah. She was ignored and refused entrance into an exclusive boutique. She said it wasn't dawning on her because in her mind she was probably thinking she's a BILLIONAIRE. Why would anyone f*ck her over. But it happens. Don't forget the professionals who afraid to tell a rich client, "Nope. Sorry. I can't do that. Why? Cuz I'm a doctor and you're not and the treatment that you WANT may not be the treatment that you NEED." Sad, but true.

Yes, I agree. I just feel that some of these doctor's who treat celebrities let it go to their "heads", and sometimes they do things that they shouldn't be doing. For instance, look at MJ -- you would think that doctor's would have learned, but it seems it still goes on today and is a real problem.

cloveringold85 said:

ACharmed.....Yes you are SO right! Prince was a very intelligent person, so I question if he inquired about Dr. Kornfeld himself.....I read that it was his "group" that reached out for help. I just don't know what to think at this point. I just wish that Prince stayed in the hospital because he should have not been at home alone. His doctor's have failed him miserably. Dr. Kornfeld should have never sent his son to PP. That was highly inappropriate, not to mention "dangerous" and "unprofessional", and even "illegal". Sorry for my rant, it just makes me upset.

I think P should've stayed in the hospital 2 after the plane incident but I think pride/ego and the fact that he never liked 2 worry any1 got in the way. The story was they didn't have any private rooms. No, I don't buy it, he just didn't want 2 stay. Which ok fine if U don't want 2 stay in a strange city/hospital but geez even if he didn't let every1 know what was going on with him, HE HIMSELF knew and he should have sought proper care. That's the kicker 2 all of this is P himself is 2 blame largely.

The other thing that bugs me about his choice of Dr's is it's like he just took Kirk's suggestion of a Dr and ran with it. Yet we all know the stories about NDA's and such. So U're willing 2 take more stock in what ppl say or don't say about U but not Ur health? P!! Reminds me of when Mayte found him and he didn't seem 2 take much stock then. Granted he was in a very dark place then with the loss of the baby, but still. 4 some1 so full of life and as much as he loved life and never SEEMINGLY took it 4 granted, he really did take it 4 granted in not looking after himself properly.

IDK if him not taking proper care of himself goes back 2 abandonment issues or what, but damn it he should still be here. And I agree with U on the sending the son thing. I mean seriously this kid flies across state lines with a drug that he isn't prescibed and nothing is done 2 him? BS! If that was any "regular" person we'd be behind bars so fast it'd make Ur head spin. But nooo 1 word "priVILEged".

LBrent said:

Don't be sorry for ranting. I think we ALL feel like ranting. The thing is, if you had googobs of money and were famous, wouldn't you always assume that no one would dare f*ck you over? Look at Oprah. She was ignored and refused entrance into an exclusive boutique. She said it wasn't dawning on her because in her mind she was probably thinking she's a BILLIONAIRE. Why would anyone f*ck her over. But it happens. Don't forget the professionals who afraid to tell a rich client, "Nope. Sorry. I can't do that. Why? Cuz I'm a doctor and you're not and the treatment that you WANT may not be the treatment that you NEED." Sad, but true.

I get why U say that but honestly, if any1 with tons of cash thinks that they are ignorant and/or have a golden stick up their ass.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

-/- I don't think he choose Dr. Kornfield?

IDK that he chose him, but the word is that he AGREED 2 see him.

Smartness had nothing to do with seeking out meds.....The public has to be in an uproar to even get the guy arrested.Then from jb to mj to elvis's dr.'s its either NO TIME or little time.Keep in mind if this dr gets arrested some crap is going to come out about our prince.These blood sucker attorneys will make damn sure.Another celeb sadly will meet the same death.Once again prob dr shopping

ThisOne said:

Ppl think I'm crazy but this is why I believe Prince was murdered.... Everything points to this This so called doctor should be prosecuted..... I just don't understand why the authorities accepted Princes death and not looked into the history of this Doctor. I want justice for Prince and for any other person who suffered.... He knew the potential harm of the medication so Why prescribe something lethal???????

The minn police saw video of prince at pp and reported it wasn't murder or suicide.They said they found meds on him and in him.....

[Edited 7/22/16 16:07pm]

ThisOne said:

destinyc1 said:

ThisOne said:

Ppl think I'm crazy but this is why I believe Prince was murdered.... Everything points to this This so called doctor should be prosecuted..... I just don't understand why the authorities accepted Princes death and not looked into the history of this Doctor. I want justice for Prince and for any other person who suffered.... He knew the potential harm of the medication so Why prescribe something lethal???????

The minn police saw video of prince at pp and reported it wasn't murder or suicide.They said they found meds on him and in him....My so called friend sent me a picture saying this is where prince was in the elevator.It looked like wet stains.I screamed at her but,she said she got it online.Guys please tell me this is fake im so upset.People are sick

Thank U. I'm tired of hearing "murder/suicide" theories.

Also like 2 point out ANY medication can be lethal. The problem here is we don't know if P had pill form or patch form. If he took a pill form and it wasn't legit that could be it. Then again even if it was legit and he took more than what he should have that could have done it. Then there is also the possibility if he had a patch if it was cut in half or torn that can cause death as well.

I do find it odd they stated he had Oxycodone on him but didn't find it in his system.

ACharmed1 said:

destinyc1 said:

The minn police saw video of prince at pp and reported it wasn't murder or suicide.They said they found meds on him and in him....My so called friend sent me a picture saying this is where prince was in the elevator.It looked like wet stains.I screamed at her but,she said she got it online.Guys please tell me this is fake im so upset.People are sick

Thank U. I'm tired of hearing "murder/suicide" theories.

Also like 2 point out ANY medication can be lethal. The problem here is we don't know if P had pill form or patch form. If he took a pill form and it wasn't legit that could be it. Then again even if it was legit and he took more than what he should have that could have done it. Then there is also the possibility if he had a patch if it was cut in half or torn that can cause death as well.

I do find it odd they stated he had Oxycodone on him but didn't find it in his system.

Can someone clarify exactly what was in Prince's system at the time of his passing from offical sources? All I know is that Fentanyl is stated in the M.E.'s report but people keep telling me that he had all these other drugs in his system and I'm tired of arguing with people who can't give me real verification.

purplethunder3121 said:

ACharmed1 said:

Thank U. I'm tired of hearing "murder/suicide" theories.

Also like 2 point out ANY medication can be lethal. The problem here is we don't know if P had pill form or patch form. If he took a pill form and it wasn't legit that could be it. Then again even if it was legit and he took more than what he should have that could have done it. Then there is also the possibility if he had a patch if it was cut in half or torn that can cause death as well.

I do find it odd they stated he had Oxycodone on him but didn't find it in his system.

Can someone clarify exactly what was in Prince's system at the time of his passing from offical sources? All I know is that Fentanyl is stated in the M.E.'s report but people keep telling me that he had all these other drugs in his system and I'm tired of arguing with people who can't give me real verification.

Only thing that's been verified is fentanyl per the autopsy report.

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