wildgoldenhoney said: I'm really beginning to wonder how close he was to anybody and why nobody seemed to know his secrets. I mean why doesn't anyone know about the person he really loved and who he was dating? Thank God for Mani at least she knew. . [Edited 6/22/16 16:49pm] I keep reading Mani knew. I obviously missed something. | |
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I think she found out about him being hooked and he pushed her (Mani) away | |
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The initial details of the plane event said "Percocet" and (except for the length of time he spent at the hospital), those reports turned out to be correct.
WHAT IF it had been Percocet....and he flushed whatever supply he had, in an effort to be clean? Then, "increasingly agitated" (per reports), he found a fentanyl stash at Paisley? It seems to have been just one patch, described as "on him".
When one's been clean for awhile, the dose you've been used to can be detrimental. Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me. | |
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ya, but he wasn't stupid, why, why why, that's all i can say, why would a guy who did have a lot of self-discipline do it so soon after the near death? makes not sense, if that wouldn't scare him nothing would. | |
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RachB65 said: There are some terrible comments left on that story, many of them scoffing the NYT for even running the article...The cruelty being directed at Prince, Judith and the article being on the site/paper is depressing as hell. Ive spent over an hour replying to some of the ignorant people who spewed their shit. But its a losing battle..every time i go back to the site there are more mean words. Such BS You should know never to even open the comments section on news articles. It's the absolute worst of the internet. The NYT shouldn't have even allowed comments on that article. Paisley Park is in your heart
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BillieBalloon said: wildgoldenhoney said: I'm really beginning to wonder how close he was to anybody and why nobody seemed to know his secrets. I mean why doesn't anyone know about the person he really loved and who he was dating? Thank God for Mani at least she knew. . [Edited 6/22/16 16:49pm] Maybe he wasn't dating anybody, that's why. [Edited 6/22/16 17:02pm] I swear some people are convinced this guy was banging someone every night of the week. Paisley Park is in your heart
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PeteSilas said: ya, but he wasn't stupid, why, why why, that's all i can say, why would a guy who did have a lot of self-discipline do it so soon after the near death? makes not sense, if that wouldn't scare him nothing would. Addicts do not think that way. My brother was an addict, he's 14 years c&s. I say addict because it is evident he was sadly addicted. It doesn't matter that he had a NDE. His brain was chemically dependent to these drugs, much like my brother. My brother detoxed alone in his room. He could have died. He wasn't stupid. He was a man whose brain and body were dependent on chemicals. He physically needed them. I don't think anyone since Mayte has seen the stripped down man Prince was. He was open to her and when he lost their son and he allowed himself to lose her, he seemed never to be the same person. Understandably, What he needed was counseling, for both emotional and chemical issues. I do think Judith romanticized their relationship. Prince wrote his life like a song. Sadly, she seems very naive. He's free now. I wish him peace. [Edited 6/22/16 19:02pm] | |
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I'm creeped out beyond hell and back! This stank gets worse and worse. What's that funky smell? Frenemies. Kirk Johnson left him alone after a death and revival? She went back to Cali and had friends suggest a doctor in Cali that would get him hooked on something else and worse. This shit is makes me MAD! Girlfriend I'm not fooled and if u had anything to do with them both my idols deaths I hope u get hit by a huge truck! I'll see u in hell! | |
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panpac777 said: I'm creeped out beyond hell and back! This stank gets worse and worse. What's that funky smell? Frenemies. Kirk Johnson left him alone after a death and revival? She went back to Cali and had friends suggest a doctor in Cali that would get him hooked on something else and worse. This shit is makes me MAD! Girlfriend I'm not fooled and if u had anything to do with them both my idols deaths I hope u get hit by a huge truck! I'll see u in hell! Don't hold back.Tell us how you really feel. | |
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half my brain knows that, i had a sister who pretty much drank herself to death and no matter what anyone told her, she still would fall off the wagon. Still, I can't quite understand that kind of thing, i asked her the same question one time when she almost died. i was pissed off and frustrated and exhausted too. | |
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I don't believe Judith was dating him romantically.
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I am noticing all of these "after stories" about Prince and how they felt about him and how they say he made them feel. How he told them he loved them and would always be there for them, etc. I honestly think that Prince was that kind of person that made you feel like you were his best friend and that HE was yours.
I am noticing all of these "after stories" about Prince and how they felt about him and how they say he made them feel. How he told them he loved them and would always be there for them, etc. I honestly think that Prince was that kind of person that made you feel like you were his best friend and that HE was yours.
Judith Hill was mostly likely a musician he was helping "at the time" and then they became close associates. That's it. He probably had other associates who he was closer with during the last 2 or 3 years of his life and some we hear about, some we don't.
Fact of the matter is, we don't know who was close to Prince. Or who he was really close to. Damaris said they had a special, close friendship, Tamron said they were BFFs, now you got Judith saying how much he meant her, same with Mayte and Mani. [Edited 6/22/16 19:58pm] | |
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i'm skeptical of all of them. Elvis had a lot of women claiming him too. some stripper in vegas, tura sutana, claimed to teach him his stage moves, even darlene love said elvis made a pass and said he'd never been with a black girl. truth is, elvis was with black girls before he was elvis. | |
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Tresha68 said: wildgoldenhoney said: I'm really beginning to wonder how close he was to anybody and why nobody seemed to know his secrets. I mean why doesn't anyone know about the person he really loved and who he was dating? Thank God for Mani at least she knew. I keep reading Mani knew. I obviously missed something. Well, she made a snippy comment before. But she didn't help him. | |
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is that your pic wild? anyway, mani's statement is vague i didn't know if she meant Prince had mental or drug issues or both. wendy and lisa mentioned something about Prince that they said wouldn't get better as he got older, i thought they may have been saying he was manic which would make sense to me. | |
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PeteSilas said:
is that your pic wild? anyway, mani's statement is vague i didn't know if she meant Prince had mental or drug issues or both. wendy and lisa mentioned something about Prince that they said wouldn't get better as he got older, i thought they may have been saying he was manic which would make sense to me. Is that statement from Manuela on here somewhere? If you seek only love’s pleasure... you shall laugh..but not all of your laughter, and cry.. but not all of your tears… | |
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Tresha68 said: wildgoldenhoney said: I'm really beginning to wonder how close he was to anybody and why nobody seemed to know his secrets. I mean why doesn't anyone know about the person he really loved and who he was dating? Thank God for Mani at least she knew. . [Edited 6/22/16 16:49pm] I keep reading Mani knew. I obviously missed something. Back in 2011 she made a facebook comment that pretty much compared Prince to Charlie Sheen. And we all knew Charlie's drug issues back then. Then after she got some pretty bad feedback, she removed it and sort of apologized maybe, but it still sounded like she was implying Prince had a problem. | |
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And the zootopia Disney reference. Omg. Really? Unless she is hinting at him becoming a father. Wtf? Sexuality- We live in a world of a run by tourist. Tourist, 89 flowers on their back! Inventors of the acujack. What, no flash again? Leaders stand up organize! and they did today! Lady cab driver- this ones for the tourists at Disneyland. Reality or nightmare? Take your pick! | |
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Its all PR for Judith Hill. The article is self serving. This article intended for you to feel sorry for her. The article served it's purpose. Did she tell this tale to Prince's family before going to the media? Its obvious this article was orchestrated by her publicist. Dont be fooled. She was only an industry "friend" of Prince. It makes me feel so sorry for Prince, and the last thing I ever wanted for Prince was for me to feel sorry for him. I couldnt imagine a life without a friend....somewhere, anywhere, anyone.... that wouldnt sell their soul to the media. If you were a friend a Prince, you wouldnt go to the media to release INTIMATE details so soon. Also, Judith wants you to know..."I am on tour now, buy your tickets, y'all!" Karma.
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laurarichardson said: terrig said: She talks enough to get herself mentioned in the NYT but not enough to really say anything. This makes me queasy. -- What else do you want her to say? She can only say what she knows and saw. I cannot imagine almost seeing your man die in front of you. He was not "her man." | |
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morningsong said: Tresha68 said: I keep reading Mani knew. I obviously missed something. Back in 2011 she made a facebook comment that pretty much compared Prince to Charlie Sheen. And we all knew Charlie's drug issues back then. Then after she got some pretty bad feedback, she removed it and sort of apologized maybe, but it still sounded like she was implying Prince had a problem. Thank you. ..I found it. "Hoping never to see prince on 20/20 doing a charlie sheen-esque rant. so sad." I guess she thought we all would know what she was talking about by osmosis. Yet..she "reached out" to him a week before he died (..thank goodness, he didn't reach back) to let him know that she wanted to "build a school in his honor"..and she thought he would want to be involved in choosing a location (..and perhaps show his interest via his wallet. Oops..did I type that?! ..And or get him all attached to her ba-a-abies. ..Oops...again. The schools that she now has his fans funding under the guise of "honoring" him. ...Riding the wave while it's hot. Sorry ..kind of/sort of....that's jmvho. [Edited 6/22/16 22:34pm] [Edited 6/23/16 4:50am] [Edited 6/23/16 22:30pm] If you seek only love’s pleasure... you shall laugh..but not all of your laughter, and cry.. but not all of your tears… | |
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That basically is addiction in a torturous & devastating nutshell tho... Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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That's easy for us to think that, but this is Prince we're talking about, their boss - for all intents and purposes, and even if not directly... If he pointedly said I'm going up to sleep now, alone (or whatever the heck went down), who were they to/how were they to fight him on that? Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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nursev said:
Not really...remember this is a man who hid the death of his child too. Prince only let you see or know just what you needed to and nothing more. People function with pain daily. I think he was in emotional pain also, as has been noted by his comments and emotions at times in the last concert. I believe the death of his friend Vanity triggered some sadness and depression. | |
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Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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Purpleone4Eva said: Beyond heartbreaking. I knew she was having a hard time with his passing, but now I understand a little more just how difficult it is for her particularly. That last paragraph about him fighting to come back to those voices... if only he knew how much he needed those voices on the night of April 20th to bring him back and get him help.
She obviously had a crush on him. he helped so many performers, especially women, and he was a very charismatic man. It almost sounds like he didn't want to come back, noting how hard it was. | |
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cindyt said:
so if he fought to get back in his body that hard 6 days before, you going to tell me he turned right around and took the same thing 6 days later? wow, no way. Just by him saying it was the hardest thing he had ever done makes me think he didn't want to come back. | |
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ForeverPaisley said:
That's easy for us to think that, but this is Prince we're talking about, their boss - for all intents and purposes, and even if not directly... If he pointedly said I'm going up to sleep now, alone (or whatever the heck went down), who were they to/how were they to fight him on that? Sweet talk him? Go in use the restroom, get a glass of water, pretend to fall asleep on the couch? Have a Zootopia party? Accidently leave your keys, waller, postage stamps in the closet? Idk, be creative and don't leave, | |
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I agree. Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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Exactly, and osteo-artritis is debilitating on it's own. Also, it is possible that his other hip was experiencing pain, from inadvertantly overcompensating post surgery of the other hip. And, some people do not get relief from hip replacement (which is tragic because it is an extremely traumatic ordeal for your body - to go through and not get relief from it is too sad). Also, people thinking he couldn't been in that much pain just because he didn't show it, Prince was exceptional at creating outward appearances that didn't reveal what was really going on underneath the layers. Dance where y'are, just groove y'all.
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