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Thread started 06/10/16 3:26pm

3stori3s

My worry about recent unreleased tracks

We all know that unreleased music is going to be officially released to make a buck. What I'm concerned with, as someone who likes "new Prince" much better than the 80s stuff is that only the old classic stuff will be given any attention and all the 3121 and beyond outtakes will be completely left to rot. What do you think?
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Reply #1 posted 06/10/16 3:50pm

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Yes, I am worried all the nostaligic stuff will be released (Purple Rain era etc) but the rest forgotten, but they may release Piano & Microphone. What I really want to see is a box set of all the videos he did and some of the concerts too. They filmed the Musicolgy tour for the big screen, so a DVD release of that would be nice, even if we have it in bootleg now but it would be awesome to have good video and sound of that- but the world is crying out for some DVD releases and we have been starved of it for a long time..........and there are a lot of concerts he filmed that could be released.........but the thing is, what and when? I do think they will cash in on the nostalgia first though???

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Reply #2 posted 06/10/16 4:47pm

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I want the newest material he was working on first, though I doubt that will happen.

Ideally, they'd work from both ends and meet in the middle.
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Reply #3 posted 06/10/16 4:49pm

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We, the fans, may end up having to crowd fund the newer or less commercial stuff.

Like, for example, the unreleased 2008 album, 2010 Deluxe, Welcome 2 America, Phase 3, Black is the New Black, and a hundred other albums we've probably never heard of.
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Reply #4 posted 06/10/16 5:21pm

3stori3s

OperatingThetan said:

the unreleased 2008 album, 2010 Deluxe, Welcome 2 America, Phase 3, Black is the New Black, and a hundred other albums we've probably never heard of.

This is exactly the type of stuff I'm afraid won't be prioritized -- this is the stuff I REALLY want!

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Reply #5 posted 06/10/16 5:30pm

OperatingTheta
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3stori3s said:



OperatingThetan said:


the unreleased 2008 album, 2010 Deluxe, Welcome 2 America, Phase 3, Black is the New Black, and a hundred other albums we've probably never heard of.



This is exactly the type of stuff I'm afraid won't be prioritized -- this is the stuff I REALLY want!



Me too. Well, if it transpires that others are not interested in releasing that material, we as a community may have to make an approach about how we might own it ourselves. Kickstarter or a new subscription/download service might be effective.

Otherwise, they'll make no income from that material at all and I think a wealth of it will have accumulated since 98 or so.
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Reply #6 posted 06/10/16 5:32pm

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Well after reading the interview with Alan Leeds in okplayer- I say we start a petition to have him handle it. He seems to have a few good ideas for it and also has experience from working with James Brown's stuff.

I'm sure he'd be respectful of his later work.
http://www.okayplayer.com...vault.html
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Reply #7 posted 06/11/16 3:08am

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RiotPaisley said:

Well after reading the interview with Alan Leeds in okplayer- I say we start a petition to have him handle it. He seems to have a few good ideas for it and also has experience from working with James Brown's stuff.

I'm sure he'd be respectful of his later work.
http://www.okayplayer.com...vault.html


He might be useful as part of a team, but his experience is with the older material and he has a preference for it, which is our concern. In the interview he doesn't even seem keen to release many unheard songs and states that many of them are 'unfinished' which is at odds with nearly all the other reports (that Prince almost never leaves a demo, finishes most tracks and has entire unreleased albums all sequenced) and the actual experience of listening to bootlegs of the vault ourselves and hearing all those finished, fully produced songs - hundreds of them.
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Reply #8 posted 06/11/16 3:16am

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3stori3s said:



OperatingThetan said:


the unreleased 2008 album, 2010 Deluxe, Welcome 2 America, Phase 3, Black is the New Black, and a hundred other albums we've probably never heard of.



This is exactly the type of stuff I'm afraid won't be prioritized -- this is the stuff I REALLY want!


I agree.
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Reply #9 posted 06/11/16 3:44am

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Since he was working on a live Piano & Microphone cd, I strongly believe that may be released sooner than later. I do believe that most of his work will get released. Sadly, alive, the stuff of more recent times might not have made much, but dead, it will get more sales. I don't know why art:books, paintings, music is like that for artists

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Reply #10 posted 06/11/16 4:48am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Since he was working on a live Piano & Microphone cd, I strongly believe that may be released sooner than later. I do believe that most of his work will get released. Sadly, alive, the stuff of more recent times might not have made much, but dead, it will get more sales. I don't know why art:books, paintings, music is like that for artists


I never understood the psychology behind this, but clearly it is inherent in most of us. I have never become more interested in something just because someone has passed on, yet when Michael, David, Prince, Whitney, etc, have passed on, all of a sudden people are compelled to buy all their stuff. If these people enjoyed their music they should have had the music before they passed, conversely, the music isn't any better or worse now that they have passed, so I just don't get it. Personally I have never taken part in this phenomenon, just makes no sense to me.

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Reply #11 posted 06/11/16 2:18pm

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RiotPaisley said:

Well after reading the interview with Alan Leeds in okplayer- I say we start a petition to have him handle it. He seems to have a few good ideas for it and also has experience from working with James Brown's stuff. I'm sure he'd be respectful of his later work. http://www.okayplayer.com...vault.html

I thought Alan too when people started talking about who they wanted to do it. After reading he would like to do remasters, with "perhaps a few choice unissued tracks", I'm like no thanks. I mean remasters would be good, but I want to hear stuff I've never heard before and lots of it. That is not my priority and I would imagine it's not the priority of other fans either. Now the live recordings he's talking about, I would be down for that, although we already have many of those tours in excellent quality.

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Reply #12 posted 06/11/16 2:26pm

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OperatingThetan said:

RiotPaisley said:
Well after reading the interview with Alan Leeds in okplayer- I say we start a petition to have him handle it. He seems to have a few good ideas for it and also has experience from working with James Brown's stuff. I'm sure he'd be respectful of his later work. http://www.okayplayer.com...vault.html
He might be useful as part of a team, but his experience is with the older material and he has a preference for it, which is our concern. In the interview he doesn't even seem keen to release many unheard songs and states that many of them are 'unfinished' which is at odds with nearly all the other reports (that Prince almost never leaves a demo, finishes most tracks and has entire unreleased albums all sequenced) and the actual experience of listening to bootlegs of the vault ourselves and hearing all those finished, fully produced songs - hundreds of them.

Agreed

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #13 posted 06/11/16 2:27pm

paulludvig

Kara said:

3stori3s said:

This is exactly the type of stuff I'm afraid won't be prioritized -- this is the stuff I REALLY want!

I agree.

I agree too.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #14 posted 06/13/16 12:15am

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3stori3s said:

We all know that unreleased music is going to be officially released to make a buck. What I'm concerned with, as someone who likes "new Prince" much better than the 80s stuff is that only the old classic stuff will be given any attention and all the 3121 and beyond outtakes will be completely left to rot. What do you think?


I think a very great deal of the unreleased material will be released, regardless if it's stuff from the eighties or recent material. The 80's stuff may have been more popular than recent material. May have been 'cause it's more than 30 years ago. There's so much stuff in the vaults that when it's released we'll probably giving each other Prince cd's for next 20 Christmasses.
And I really hope they don't forget the live material.
'Liberate My Mind'
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Reply #15 posted 06/13/16 1:42am

Bunsterdk

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OldFriends4Sale said:




Since he was working on a live Piano & Microphone cd, I strongly believe that may be released sooner than later. I do believe that most of his work will get released. Sadly, alive, the stuff of more recent times might not have made much, but dead, it will get more sales. I don't know why art:books, paintings, music is like that for artists





I never understood the psychology behind this, but clearly it is inherent in most of us. I have never become more interested in something just because someone has passed on, yet when Michael, David, Prince, Whitney, etc, have passed on, all of a sudden people are compelled to buy all their stuff. If these people enjoyed their music they should have had the music before they passed, conversely, the music isn't any better or worse now that they have passed, so I just don't get it. Personally I have never taken part in this phenomenon, just makes no sense to me.



With Prince, it is simply a matter of access to the material. It is available now and I have personally discovered a whole new world I didn't know existed. Life got in the way of me hopping through hoops and keeping up with the man and his music when he not only chose alternative release methods, but kept changing them. After getting 20Ten through the friend of a friend who happened to be in England, I decided to accept that I couldn't keep up. Too much other stuff that I had to deal with in my life.

Also I haven't been able to watch him live for health and other reasons, and it's been simply amazing to watch his life performances on video. I want those more than anything else to be released in high quality. That would be awesome and live versions beat studio versions almost every time for me.

So with Prince it's not only a matter of the man dying, but also of availability to the general audience, IMHO.
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