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Reply #240 posted 06/01/16 4:21am

BillieBalloon

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lionessinus said:


roxy831 said:


Totally feeling what you're saying, but we're talking Prince. We're talking about CNN shutting down their highest, most excellent ratings in covering an Election Year to report on and pay homage to Prince. We're talking about the Prince who had national monuments, historical and government buildings dawn on purple when the news hit. This is an international tragedy, and the world is not gonna go without closure on this one. The autopsy and toxicology results are done. They're dealing with how they want to break it to the world.



I think you are right on target.

Agreed. I feel we'll hear results this week and while it may be vague, it will hopefully provide some much needed closure. I'm from Mn. and know they're being thorough and know the worlds eyes are watching.




I dread it being all over the news and feeds again, but hopefully it'll die down soon after, as it's too painful reading all the negative spins, inuendo's, gossip and outright bullshit, imo.




I have to admit, I was very surprised that CNN and many other news outlets had Prince on all day on 4/21, and by all the love shown for him all over the world. I always knew he was "huge" to me and a lot of us Minnesotans, and to all of us here, but after spending decades defending him and his music I didn't realize he would have this big of a impact.


Anyone else feel this way?



His death generated worldwide attention and so will his cause of death. People want to know and there's nothing wrong with that, for some it will provide closure and for others its morbid curiosity. Outside of the States this news was huge because he was a global star. Despite not having chart
hits in his recent years his death came as a huge shock and people genuinely felt a sense of sadness and loss around the world. So inevitably the cause of death is of interest worldwide too.
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Reply #241 posted 06/01/16 4:25am

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Just a question that was on this forum prior to Prince's death. Do autopsy results have to be released? And if not is it the family's decision whether that is released? Listening to doctor's that have done autopsies and witnessed to them, they say that results if "natural" are known right away like within 48 hours or sooner, (example heart attack, seizure), if there was a pre-existing illness that would be known pretty quick too, because whomever the deceased was, they had a doctor and had to be diagnosed, so they were already called into question. In the case of there being an OD or some other form of drug being taken, it still would be known fairly quick, possibly even 2-4 weeks at most, drugs can be detected right away, its just the amount is not known right away. Again there is so much speculation BUT everyone needs to understand that something is known already and it's being held on to for a reason, possibly the family, possibly for "criminal prosecution" of maybe a doctor or someone that maybe got him illegal prescriptions, I think they are being super careful and want this to simmer down, they want to get Prince's name out of the daily media feeds etc...before they release it or if they release it.

They know what caused his death and they knew within a hour after autopsy.

What the hold up now is the final toxicology report and the criminal phase

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Reply #242 posted 06/01/16 5:14am

dreaminaboutu

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dreaminaboutu said:

The longer fans are made to wait for to find out what medically happened to Prince to cause his passing ,the more it feeds the conspiracy theorists. Even I am starting to wonder if all this delay is to get the LIES and ALIBIS straight. This is 2016 for GOD's sake. Is anything really private or secret that someone cannot find out with the proper funding? It is just hard for me to trust what they say now will be actually true. My condolences to his family and loved ones who have had to endure this wait.

Do you want it done fast? OR Do you want it done right?

A month and half is fast?

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Reply #243 posted 06/01/16 7:14am

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dreaminaboutu said:

mailaccount63 said:

dreaminaboutu said: Do you want it done fast? OR Do you want it done right?

A month and half is fast?

No, we want it done right.

RIP sad
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Reply #244 posted 06/01/16 7:17am

Tresha68

dreaminaboutu said:

mailaccount63 said:

dreaminaboutu said: Do you want it done fast? OR Do you want it done right?

A month and half is fast?

Toxicology can take up to 2 months. It is actually a long process. Depending upon what they are looking for. Drugs have half lives, they also breakdown into different chemicals. So if they suspect one drug, they would probably have to look for it's bi-products. I don't know if they use hair samples? That would prove whether or not he was an "addict" like they are claiming. They also test tissues, I believe.

I am convinced he was gravely ill and not all of those around him were privvy to that information. So, he may have metabilized drugs at different rates and actually did OD, hence the save shot. If all his employers did not know, they would assume it was an addiction and not due to the drugs he was taking? Again, speculation.

I think he had cancer. Either pancreas, bladder or Kaposi Sarcoma. I would think the latter. I always think back to the book, "Blame it on Vanity". She died of EPS, which is common in HIV patients post transplant. It's just a thought and no defamation is implied. She was addicted to Heroin and I think the addiction he sings of is directed towards her and his loss. Not of his true love, but a woman he loved and lost to drugs.

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Reply #245 posted 06/01/16 7:39am

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Tresha68 said:

dreaminaboutu said:

A month and half is fast?

Toxicology can take up to 2 months. It is actually a long process. Depending upon what they are looking for. Drugs have half lives, they also breakdown into different chemicals. So if they suspect one drug, they would probably have to look for it's bi-products. I don't know if they use hair samples? That would prove whether or not he was an "addict" like they are claiming. They also test tissues, I believe.

I am convinced he was gravely ill and not all of those around him were privvy to that information. So, he may have metabilized drugs at different rates and actually did OD, hence the save shot. If all his employers did not know, they would assume it was an addiction and not due to the drugs he was taking? Again, speculation.

I think he had cancer. Either pancreas, bladder or Kaposi Sarcoma. I would think the latter. I always think back to the book, "Blame it on Vanity". She died of EPS, which is common in HIV patients post transplant. It's just a thought and no defamation is implied. She was addicted to Heroin and I think the addiction he sings of is directed towards her and his loss. Not of his true love, but a woman he loved and lost to drugs.

I was thinking the same.

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Reply #246 posted 06/01/16 7:58am

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Google "how long does an autopsy take" and the results will tell you 6-8 weeks. Tomorrow will mark 6 weeks. What delay? It was always going to be 6-8 weeks. Some of you are acting like it's been 6 months.

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Reply #247 posted 06/01/16 8:16am

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Tresha68 said:

dreaminaboutu said:

A month and half is fast?

Toxicology can take up to 2 months. It is actually a long process. Depending upon what they are looking for. Drugs have half lives, they also breakdown into different chemicals. So if they suspect one drug, they would probably have to look for it's bi-products. I don't know if they use hair samples? That would prove whether or not he was an "addict" like they are claiming. They also test tissues, I believe.

I am convinced he was gravely ill and not all of those around him were privvy to that information. So, he may have metabilized drugs at different rates and actually did OD, hence the save shot. If all his employers did not know, they would assume it was an addiction and not due to the drugs he was taking? Again, speculation.

I think he had cancer. Either pancreas, bladder or Kaposi Sarcoma. I would think the latter. I always think back to the book, "Blame it on Vanity". She died of EPS, which is common in HIV patients post transplant. It's just a thought and no defamation is implied. She was addicted to Heroin and I think the addiction he sings of is directed towards her and his loss. Not of his true love, but a woman he loved and lost to drugs.

Which song are you referring to?

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Reply #248 posted 06/01/16 11:00am

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This has just occured to me: was Will Smith ever asked by the press what was the conversation with Prince about? I remember WS saying he had spoken to Prince the night before he was found in the elevator. Just curious why the press did not hound him for news...

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Reply #249 posted 06/01/16 11:14am

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MMJas said:

This has just occured to me: was Will Smith ever asked by the press what was the conversation with Prince about? I remember WS saying he had spoken to Prince the night before he was found in the elevator. Just curious why the press did not hound him for news...


I have been wondering tbe same thing. Seems we heard bout it the day Prince died but never heard another word about it. Or Will. At all
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Reply #250 posted 06/01/16 11:17am

morningsong

MMJas said:

This has just occured to me: was Will Smith ever asked by the press what was the conversation with Prince about? I remember WS saying he had spoken to Prince the night before he was found in the elevator. Just curious why the press did not hound him for news...




That makes me sad. I missed hear the specific details on that.

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Reply #251 posted 06/01/16 11:54am

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MMJas said:

This has just occured to me: was Will Smith ever asked by the press what was the conversation with Prince about? I remember WS saying he had spoken to Prince the night before he was found in the elevator. Just curious why the press did not hound him for news...

I have been wondering tbe same thing. Seems we heard bout it the day Prince died but never heard another word about it. Or Will. At all

yeahthat He was quick to say he spoke to him....of course, it would be hard to say you didn't talk if your number is on the phone records wink So wonder what was up with that.

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Reply #252 posted 06/01/16 12:07pm

FutureGirl

Mumio said:

RachB65 said:

MMJas said: I have been wondering tbe same thing. Seems we heard bout it the day Prince died but never heard another word about it. Or Will. At all

yeahthat He was quick to say he spoke to him....of course, it would be hard to say you didn't talk if your number is on the phone records wink So wonder what was up with that.

I wonder what Prince and Will talked about. Will is a distant cousin of mine. I'd ask him if I knew him but we never met.

No need to say, no need to say, that I'd die without you, I'd die without you...because I may, I may, what will you do? ~Prince, Sea of Everything
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Reply #253 posted 06/01/16 12:09pm

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Mumio said:

RachB65 said:

MMJas said: I have been wondering tbe same thing. Seems we heard bout it the day Prince died but never heard another word about it. Or Will. At all

yeahthat He was quick to say he spoke to him....of course, it would be hard to say you didn't talk if your number is on the phone records wink So wonder what was up with that.

I know, I was surprised we didn't hear anything further. Then I thought, well maybe it wasn't on that actual day or maybe it wasn't technically a conversation. Kinda like when Sheila said she called him a week before his death and made it sound like they talked, but in reality, Kirk J just took a msg and P never returned her call.

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Reply #254 posted 06/01/16 12:13pm

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/will-smith-reveals-he-spoke-to-prince-the-night-before-he-died-a6996896.html

"I am stunned and heartbroken. I just spoke with him last night. Today, Jada & I mourn with all of you the loss of a beautiful poet, a true inspiration, and one of the most magnificent artists to ever grace this earth."

If he did, there will be records of that. I find it strange that the press did not follow that further, thay are always so eager...

[Edited 6/1/16 13:00pm]

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Reply #255 posted 06/01/16 12:18pm

Mumio

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MMJas said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/will-smith-reveals-he-spoke-to-prince-the-night-before-he-died-a6996896.html

"I am stunned and heartbroken. I just spoke with him last night. Today, Jada & I mourn with all of you the loss of a beautiful poet, a true inspiration, and one of the most magnificent artists to ever grace this earth."

If he did, there will be records of that. I find it strange that the press did not follow that further, thay are always so eager...

I'm surprised that TMZ hasn't jumped right on that.

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Reply #256 posted 06/01/16 12:36pm

Rebeljuice

Well, we all know the press are monitoring the org for scoops. Now this has been raised, expect a will smith story in the coming days. ☺
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Reply #257 posted 06/01/16 1:19pm

Tresha68

simm0061 said:



Tresha68 said:




dreaminaboutu said:



A month and half is fast?




Toxicology can take up to 2 months. It is actually a long process. Depending upon what they are looking for. Drugs have half lives, they also breakdown into different chemicals. So if they suspect one drug, they would probably have to look for it's bi-products. I don't know if they use hair samples? That would prove whether or not he was an "addict" like they are claiming. They also test tissues, I believe.



I am convinced he was gravely ill and not all of those around him were privvy to that information. So, he may have metabilized drugs at different rates and actually did OD, hence the save shot. If all his employers did not know, they would assume it was an addiction and not due to the drugs he was taking? Again, speculation.



I think he had cancer. Either pancreas, bladder or Kaposi Sarcoma. I would think the latter. I always think back to the book, "Blame it on Vanity". She died of EPS, which is common in HIV patients post transplant. It's just a thought and no defamation is implied. She was addicted to Heroin and I think the addiction he sings of is directed towards her and his loss. Not of his true love, but a woman he loved and lost to drugs.



Which song are you referring to?



It was in another thread, sorry. Referring to him singing out down the heroin, out down the spoon and seven others that were mentioned.
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Reply #258 posted 06/01/16 1:34pm

PeteSilas

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Well, we all know the press are monitoring the org for scoops. Now this has been raised, expect a will smith story in the coming days. ☺

i didn't know when random posts were regarded as journalistic worthy.

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Reply #259 posted 06/01/16 1:35pm

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Maybe we should make some shit up to mess with TMZ. Or is that too mean spirited? I know if it wasn't them breaking the news it'd be someone else but they just seem so tabloid / glitz / scandal / clickbait. Love u purple peeps.
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Reply #260 posted 06/01/16 2:38pm

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mmj http://www.ew.com/article...will-smith I agree.And in this article it said prince loved willow.

[Edited 6/1/16 14:39pm]

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Reply #261 posted 06/01/16 2:39pm

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Tresha68 said:

simm0061 said:

Which song are you referring to?

It was in another thread, sorry. Referring to him singing out down the heroin, out down the spoon and seven others that were mentioned.

Oh, From Emancipation; "The Love We Make" is the song. And that was written for Wendy and Susannah's brother Jonathan who died from a Heroin overdose earlier in the year while on tour with the smashing pumpkins. He was married and had just had a baby 3 months before his death, which is why I think there is a line in the song about a baby and mother.

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Reply #262 posted 06/01/16 3:05pm

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Mumio said:

MMJas said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/will-smith-reveals-he-spoke-to-prince-the-night-before-he-died-a6996896.html

"I am stunned and heartbroken. I just spoke with him last night. Today, Jada & I mourn with all of you the loss of a beautiful poet, a true inspiration, and one of the most magnificent artists to ever grace this earth."

If he did, there will be records of that. I find it strange that the press did not follow that further, thay are always so eager...

I'm surprised that TMZ hasn't jumped right on that.

I brought this up in another thread, which I think eventually got locked.
SURELY someone has asked Will. It would be too important in the investigation timeline, unless he spoke to Prince BEFORE he was dropped off at PP.

This waiting is making me sad.
To make matters worse, a good friend I've had for almost 25 years died Monday, and his wife is not having a funeral or even an obituary. So, I'm really needing closure on Prince more than ever...

"I gave my love, I gave my life, I gave my body and mind..." - P
Thank you for the gifts - we will all meet again, dear Prince.
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Reply #263 posted 06/01/16 3:21pm

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lameless said:

Google "how long does an autopsy take" and the results will tell you 6-8 weeks. Tomorrow will mark 6 weeks. What delay? It was always going to be 6-8 weeks. Some of you are acting like it's been 6 months.



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Reply #264 posted 06/01/16 3:28pm

morningsong

MMJas said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/will-smith-reveals-he-spoke-to-prince-the-night-before-he-died-a6996896.html

"I am stunned and heartbroken. I just spoke with him last night. Today, Jada & I mourn with all of you the loss of a beautiful poet, a true inspiration, and one of the most magnificent artists to ever grace this earth."

If he did, there will be records of that. I find it strange that the press did not follow that further, thay are always so eager...

[Edited 6/1/16 13:00pm]

IF true, then it was Prince himself reaching out not his representatives. So he was not being unreachable, stubborn, resistant and a host of other adjectives that keep being said he was about whatever was going on with him.


sigh

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Reply #265 posted 06/01/16 4:23pm

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Rebeljuice said:

Well, we all know the press are monitoring the org for scoops. Now this has been raised, expect a will smith story in the coming days. ☺

How convenient, because I have a message I've been meaning to pass on to the Prince-hounding press for ages!
Fuck off forever in many ways

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Reply #266 posted 06/01/16 4:30pm

Mumio

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tiggerlane said:

Mumio said:

I'm surprised that TMZ hasn't jumped right on that.

I brought this up in another thread, which I think eventually got locked.
SURELY someone has asked Will. It would be too important in the investigation timeline, unless he spoke to Prince BEFORE he was dropped off at PP.

This waiting is making me sad.
To make matters worse, a good friend I've had for almost 25 years died Monday, and his wife is not having a funeral or even an obituary. So, I'm really needing closure on Prince more than ever...

So sorry for your loss tiggerlane sad

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Reply #267 posted 06/01/16 4:41pm

Tresha68

simm0061 said:

Tresha68 said:

simm0061 said: It was in another thread, sorry. Referring to him singing out down the heroin, out down the spoon and seven others that were mentioned.

Oh, From Emancipation; "The Love We Make" is the song. And that was written for Wendy and Susannah's brother Jonathan who died from a Heroin overdose earlier in the year while on tour with the smashing pumpkins. He was married and had just had a baby 3 months before his death, which is why I think there is a line in the song about a baby and mother.

Yes, that is the song.

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Reply #268 posted 06/01/16 7:53pm

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Disconcertingeyes said:

Mumio said:

Good grief. If you don't want to read any speculation, no one is forcing you to come to this thread so please step out. I can't for the life of me figure out why some people here just want to stifle other people from saying what is on their mind. There's moderators here, there's rules...and if someone violates the rules then the mods will take care of it. People work out their grief however they have to and no one needs to approve of another's way of dealing. Please don't read what you don't like and let others be.


Agreed but the problem is the mods are deleting some threads with speculation and leaving others on. There's no consistency. I don't mind hearing others thoughts on the subject.Just praying the mods aren't delete happy..as they deleted some great threads.
[Edited 5/22/16 15:39pm]

I agree. Some of us are in a lot of pain. A tremendous amount of pain.
Yet, if you try to talk through the horribleness of what may have happened, it seems you may not be allowed to do that here; among people who say that they cared.
I'm not even sure at this point that when something is publicized, that it will be the truth.
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Reply #269 posted 06/01/16 8:08pm

tiggerlane

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Mumio said:



tiggerlane said:




Mumio said:





I'm surprised that TMZ hasn't jumped right on that.



I brought this up in another thread, which I think eventually got locked.
SURELY someone has asked Will. It would be too important in the investigation timeline, unless he spoke to Prince BEFORE he was dropped off at PP.

This waiting is making me sad.
To make matters worse, a good friend I've had for almost 25 years died Monday, and his wife is not having a funeral or even an obituary. So, I'm really needing closure on Prince more than ever...





So sorry for your loss tiggerlane sad


Thank you so very much!
"I gave my love, I gave my life, I gave my body and mind..." - P
Thank you for the gifts - we will all meet again, dear Prince.
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