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Yes I knew the boxes were left over fan stuff, but it just seemed to be so organised in a weird way in the short time - it just felt weird. I can understand that the discussion about funerals and such would come up about after MJs passing (and yes, it was a circus) but his family would have had the final say I would have thought, and they didnt seem to be close really? I was just shocked how fast it all happened. I thought at the time there must have been written notes left by him what to do in case something happened to him, but with no will, I am guessing maybe not. I guess we may find out in time to come and the answers will all match up when we get the results perhaps? It is just odd that he made definate plans about his funeral part but not his estate / vault overall............... Thank you Prince for every note you left behind đź’ś | |
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Kirk Johnson is the key to all of that, and he must have told the Nelson family what Prince said he would want. Prince said in interviews that he planned to release the music from the vault, he didn't think he'd get to release it all because there's just so many. Prince didn't have a will because Prince didn't want to write a will. He never wanted to think about and talk about those things. Prince told Maya Washington, "Why talk about the dead while we're living, Maya?" https://www.youtube.com/w...Qokp8Bnwlo Prince said on CNN, "I try to stay in the now and live in the now. I think it keeps you young." Prince didn't even acknowledge his own age and said he didn't believe in time. Prince believed that thoughts and words breath reality so he refused to think on those terms. Prince was very radical in his opinions and his ideas, a very original thinker. Scan from August 1998 Mojo magazine:
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avajane said: gollygirl said:
I was there that night too, and I thought something may have been different too, but put it down to the style of show. Of course I ws blown away too and then when I heard about the plane thing, I was scared but in denial - and I am still in denial coz I dont want to believe it..... Well, if that's the case you could say he knew back in January where he mentioned seeing people who have passed away. Or take it back to November when he decided he was going to start the tour. [Edited 5/19/16 13:56pm] Also possible it has been a condition that was ongoing for that long. He did just drop dead out of nowhere-- you'd think you'd have to know whatever that was was coming. Or, it was just a musical concept he came up with - he has been doing solo piano segments in his shows for ages - then later developed whatever condition he had, and wound up extra painfully pouring his heart and soul into the shoes which is certainly what it sounded like. | |
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Hi all, this is my first post. I've been lurking for a couple of weeks. Maybe because he was the same age as me, it puts mortality out there for everyone in our generation, for whatever reason, I find myself compelled to come here and read. It is truly heartbreaking. I have a few things going around in my head about his passing. And these are just my personal thoughts. If I recall, the medical examiner said she found no natural cause of death so unless she is purposelly misleading the public, he didn't have AIDS or Cancer. I believe he had an addiction. My daughter has the same addiction. I can tell you first hand that watching a loved one deal with this problem is devastating. For years you may worry that they take too much pain medication, but they still manage and function and so you worry about it but don't say much about it. Then it creeps up insidiously, ever so slowly until one day they no longer can 'function'. It consumes them. They want so badly to stop, but can't and will even take the medications knowing that they could die. It's part of the disease of addiction and it happens every day in this country at the hands of liscensed physicians. If he had bone on bone in his hip joints, he couldn't have performed without the meds and he made his own choices. He had a career, bills to pay, fans to please. From what I have read about Prince here over the past few weeks it is so obvious that he cherished and fiercly protected his privacy and would have been devastated if anyone knew of his problem. And rightly so. Going to a facility in MN would probably have been out of the question as too many knew him there. Going anywhere was probably an extremely hard sell for someone as tough as Prince. I think, as some others do that he was trying to do it on his own, the way he liked to do everything for himself. He was trying to stop and I know from experience that is the time when many overdoses occur. If his staff told the Cali doctor that the condition was 'grave', then he had hit his bottom. Sometimes I think he may have overdosed on purpose because he was going to do it his way and didn't want to go away to rehab. The eye's closed avi, dying in an elevator, the remarks about waiting a few days to pray, friends commenting on his depression (these meds cause severe depression), make me wonder if he didn't just decide to go on his own terms...but then that's just something that runs through my head. We really don't know. And maybe never will. The coroner only has to state 'natural causes' or 'drug overdose' and doesn't have to go into any detail. I think for me, I am so thankful to have had all of these years of his gift of music. He lived life on his own terms and lived to the fullest and shared his incredible gift with the world. Can't really ask for more than that, even though we want to. | |
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Hey, I am still so much thinking about his passing, its really sad. I do believe as well, that he didnt see this coming, maybe his body just gave in, his heart just gave in, obviously he didnt eat and drink properly for weeks due to his stomach problems, which may well have been caused and very probably have been caused by this pain medication, which he had been taking very obviously. He would work for one week without sleeping, no proper food, and the body was already weak from the medication. And maybe he didnt drink enough as well, that is even more dangerous for the body and the heart. This alone could just be enough for someones heart to just give in. Plus he just recovered from almost dying on his flight back to Minneapolis. It is so sad, that his close circle couldnt protect him more, make sure he gets more rest and is at least not all alone, even if he asked for that, maybe someone could have checked on him on a regular basis. It is obvious that his circle knew, that he was not in a good condition, otherwise they wouldn't have called the Californian Doc for a grave medical condition. But still nobody checked on him, to see, if he was alright. So sad......
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I still maintain that he knew he was going. I've seen people and patients who knew that their time was fast approaching do bucket list type stuff (piano tour)... become kinda bitter when people focused on their illness (specifically cancer..I recall a neighbor who died from cancer ..refuse to face guests when they came to visit her in the last days before her passing)... I've seen all types of responses to death from people.... my great grandmother randomly called my grandmother into her room and told her "pray with me (grandmother's name) I'm ready to go home"...grandmother prayed with her and she closed her eyes and passed away... I've seen situations where patients just told staff to not bother to serve them dinner because they wouldn't be around to eat it and then sure as day by dinner time they had expired. Death is a funny thing and some people know...but you can always know certain things in life too. I can tell when I'm about to get sick. I can be fine as hell no issues and then long before the first cough- sniffle- wheeze- I just know. I honestly have accepted that Prince knew he was dying.. possibly of pancreatic cancer.... when I glanced at him last year something in my head said quietly pancreatic cancer and I was a bit surprised at that but left it alone... now I truly believe that he had that ailment and was taking the opiates to stem the pain from that and possibly chemotherapy as to me his eyebrows seemed really thinning out as well as his face was gaunt and drawn... then he decided to possibly go out on his own terms . I find it interesting that to me... his family members seem resigned and almost accepting of his passing.. like they knew he was fading away.... | |
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Unless someone really trustworthy comes out and says directly that nothing else was wrong apart from the alleged hip pain, then I will continue to believe he had something else going on for around a year or two. That would explain a lot.
He still died of an overdose. But that doesn't rule out other ailments that were not at the time of his death directly contributing factors. Cancer, aids, makes no difference to me. We knew he had a lot of girl friends in the 80s. That brought with it the risk of aids, we all knew that. Cancer will hit anyone. It seems he was using heavier medication and still being able to do less. That indicates to me that something else was going on. That and a lot of other things. But I think he knew it was drawing close and the od just hit him by surprise and took him away sooner than expected. Of course it could be deliberate, but I really don't think so. The many signs that he was preparing for this exact time could just as well be due to the problems of withdrawal and pain management. He probably knew he would be under the weather for a while and that could mean not coming back to performing etc if he had something else ticking away inside him. It would make perfect sense even if he wasn't expecting to die so soon. But without an underlying ailment there are a number of loose ends IMHO. [Edited 6/17/16 3:20am] | |
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There's just no way we will ever know for sure barring something really unforeseen coming out from a reliable source. Speculating too much tends to make me sad and I am pretty sure Prince would want us celebrating his career and music rather than details of his last days although I admit it is human nature and have considered every point brought up here(Except the foolish faked his own death lunacy) | |
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sunset3121 said: The reported events don't seem to add up for sure. Why would they wait a week to call in some doctors son if he OD'd on the plane? Why are his friends often saying they know the reason for his death but can't say? People talk about his 'hip pain' as if it is a euphemism for something esle. I remember being concerned when people started discussing his hip pain and being very relieved when I saw him bouncing around in an unnecessarily spritely manner. I have family taking oxy for pain and two family members that have had hip problems and there are just actions that they would both avoid that he wouldn't hesitate to do. It seemed strange - but Prince never did like telling his tale upfront so I was just glad his hips seemed OK and hoped there wasn'tt anything seriously wrong with him. When you go down this line of thinking, other things strike you too. When I heard that he was listening to controvery (single version) the line "some people wanna die so they can be free" just screamed at me. I then read he had replied about his health "Perfect. Save your prayers. Controversy" and it just sent shivers down my spine. It makes me wonder what Mani was referring to with Charlie Sheen too. I try to think that Prince believed in the afterlife and wanted to celebrate going to God. Whatever happened, he was torn from this earth way too soon but he would not have thought about it the same as me, to him he would have been going back home. Didn't Mani refer to C. Chaplin? I personally think he knew. I've had many family members die from cancer and he definitely showed signs. I think the accidental overdose may not have been accidental. God rest his soul and I pray he is at peace. Something tells me he is. I just hope he knew he was loved, especially by Mayte. This just pulls at my heart and I don't know why. He proclaimed her his soul mate and I just hope she finds peace as well. There are too many signs to say he didn't know, he knew. | |
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ksgemini63 said: There's just no way we will ever know for sure barring something really unforeseen coming out from a reliable source. Speculating too much tends to make me sad and I am pretty sure Prince would want us celebrating his career and music rather than details of his last days although I admit it is human nature and have considered every point brought up here(Except the foolish faked his own death lunacy) Why is that "lunacy"??? | |
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I'm glad for this post. Wondering, I mentioned pancreatic cancer to my husband. With the symptoms and weight loss. I remember how fast and similar symptoms Michael Landon went. Patrick Swayze lasted a bit longer. I wish we new the reason for the pain meds. I wouldn't change the out come but for those of us mourning, it might help ease the pain of his loss. admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. | |
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Honestly, everybody knows it's more to the story than we know, that's normal, but imho I think he could've had some type of illness. I think he knew his time was coming (which didn't bother him P wasn't afraid of death) but I don't think he knew it'd be so soon. I think that's why he started the memoirs and all those things just to hit the pinata one last time but mid-swing he was cut short but it didn't bother him because he lived a beautiful life. I do think that if he could he would've gave a more formal "see you later" to us and I say see you later because most of us will all see him oneday. Maybe soon, maybe later, but we all will.  | |
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AnonymousFan said: ksgemini63 said: There's just no way we will ever know for sure barring something really unforeseen coming out from a reliable source. Speculating too much tends to make me sad and I am pretty sure Prince would want us celebrating his career and music rather than details of his last days although I admit it is human nature and have considered every point brought up here(Except the foolish faked his own death lunacy) Why is that "lunacy"??? There's not a shred of evidence or a witness claiming this. It is illegal almost impossible to pull off and maintain and I can't see Prince perpetrating a lie that would make this many people sad. McCartney dead maybe Prince alive... I wish but no... | |
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TheJoyInRepetition said: Honestly, everybody knows it's more to the story than we know, that's normal, but imho I think he could've had some type of illness. I think he knew his time was coming (which didn't bother him P wasn't afraid of death) but I don't think he knew it'd be so soon. I think that's why he started the memoirs and all those things just to hit the pinata one last time but mid-swing he was cut short but it didn't bother him because he lived a beautiful life. I do think that if he could he would've gave a more formal "see you later" to us and I say see you later because most of us will all see him oneday. Maybe soon, maybe later, but we all will. I'll always believe he felt the end was near. The memoir's, talking so openly about Vanity and the emergency landing did if for me. I was just discussing on Tuesday how I felt the end was near for him But I didn't think it would be two days later. It still feels unreal. | |
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"I don't need no Doctor!" was a slam against Dr. Fink, who apparently said something in an interview he didn't like. If you listen to the Fox show he says something about changing the i in fink to u for funk. The Poster Formerly Known As Elephants and Flowers | |
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I think he knew something. I think he looked bad this last year, his face had gottgen so thin that it really frightened me when I saw him. | |
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Well when did he take that passport picture that was so widely publicized? Everyone commented on how good he looked. | |
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"And I know you're not just what you say to me
And I'm not the only moment you're made of..." | |
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im quite sure Sheila E. , Kirk J, and all those at his funeral know exactly what happened to Prince. It's hard to believe they've told no one anything. | |
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  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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I guess I'm in the minority, I believe he overdosed, didn't know, & there's no reason for the coroner to lie about it. The gift boxes at PP would be ready to go if they were for sale to be shipped out - PP is huge, they probably have some warehouse where they keep that kind of stuff in case they want to hand it out to fans at various PP events, & thought it was an appropriate thing to do for fans who showed up at PP. I just think it was a grave miscalculation on his part & his staffs part - the amount of meds he was taking. All this other stuff just seems like searching to me, but I didn't follow his instagram/twitter & all that 
When Prince first passed, I thought too that he 'knew he was dying'. This was purely because his last weeks of tweets and behaviour was strange. Words he chose, music and his entire attitude to the plane incident. I never knew anything about painkillers or being constantly in pain. Prince was a master at hiding everything. I don't think now that he knew he was dying though. . What I do realise though, going on the touch and go evidence that we have, is that Prince knew that he was playing with fire and had been playing with fire. But yes in that VIP cloud he lived and his isolation in his choice to live privately, he thought like with everything else in his career, he could get away it Hey he took on the entire industry annd WON! That was why to the world and us he portrayed as always the perfect image. But deep down he knew he was in trouble. And those were the small subtle, uncharacteristic signs a few of us who had been following him for years picked up on the last weeks. And others even longer, saw a changed Prince. The fro, the letting go, the letting things be as they were. The more he returned to 'himself' the more he probably allowed himself his hidden weakness. Being in pain is a killer. This is the only reason why dying people actually just want to pass on. . Thinking retrospectiely over the last years, there have been some severe uncharacteristically hard critics on this board who have crucified Prince for almost everything he did. Could it be, that some in his small circles were aware of some kind of pain killer addition and saw changes in Prince's moods? Is this why they tried to bring Prince back to earth by nailing him in character and output? . Maybe Prince was running out of creative steam. He needed a boost. God knows the man had been a continuous outstream of creativity his whole career. No human can keep that up. If painkillers create euphoria (just from being out of pain), it's perfectly understandable he become dependant on them. Only now, after having seen so many concerts on youtube, do I realise how much damage he actually did to his then young, fit body. Prince was always extreme in performance, pushing any boundary there was to push. Minimal sleep for years and the stage is almost set for a bad ending. . Adding the years of heels, growing older, I mean wow he was nearly 60!! He too must have read up and known that the chances of his making it to to 80 were slim. Hence his devout devotion to religion, healthy lifestyle etc. He had to compensate somewhere else. Prince might have been able to keep up appearances to the world (he had done that since a young age) but he was authentic and I think he was true to himself. He did what he felt and it's true in recent months he looked thin. Maybe it was was the fro, but it was also the clothes. Uncharacteristic, very loose and flowy, but then can hide a lot. Jounralists always wrote about him looking so young, but Prince was also vain and like all celebrities would have had work done, not to mention the make-up. In the last pictures where he looked tired, he was probably just without make-up. Another sign almost that he was perhaps tired of keeping up appearances. . I never would have thought Prince would die like this. In character especially, after the plane incident so soon after a concert never would I have thought he would be so nonchalant over his health. In that sense he hid things well. It goes to show you how deceiving appearances are. Everyone is struggling with their own personal battles and we live in a world where appearances are everything. Although I feel angry with him, it doesn't stop the love and respect that I always had for the man. He was a genius and he shared his gift with the world freely, his way and completely. If I had know it was going to cost him so many years of his life I would have been much harder on him but Prince listened to few people. . I praise the people who in the last days tried to do something to help him. But as he sang in Third Eye, the only one that can save you is you. In that sense I think Prince 'knew he was dying'. Meaning he did not want to fight the battle. It would cost him his pride and damage his career if were to be in a clinic and Prince was too proud for that. I really think the dying in an elevator somehow was a subconscious planning. If he was playing with fentanyl patches he knew the risks. He wasn't stupid he would have done his homework but maybe he was just ready. Damn though, he will be missed.... "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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I couldn't have said this better myself.... . What I think everyone is not realizing is that he didn't owe it to anyone to stick around. None of us do. . He knew how to get help and what was going on. I think he had a strong "feeling" that unless things changed soon he could pass. He chose not to get help. That was HIS choice. I understand it. He didn't have a wife or children to live for. When one accomplishes as much as he did, and perhaps didn't feel the drive, passion, and excitement anymore they can be okay to just be "done". . He said himself that true friends "aren't on your payroll" and yet it seems to me that in the end he surrounded himself with only employees. . It's still so incredibly sad as his candle burned so bright, but I think he was ready and was okay. We may never get over our loss, but can hopefully get to the stage where we are content with the "answers" and can just rejoice in the body of work and insight he left us. Eventually every cloud runs out of rain. | |
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ksgemini63 said: AnonymousFan said: Why is that "lunacy"??? There's not a shred of evidence or a witness claiming this. It is illegal almost impossible to pull off and maintain and I can't see Prince perpetrating a lie that would make this many people sad. McCartney dead maybe Prince alive... I wish but no... Depends on your point of view. Prince was controlling every aspect of his career, was extremely private, had played with the notion of artistic death before (as Bowie did), he played by only his own rules. Why not orchestrate his own death? He may have had health issues or not, he might want to put an end to Prince the artist his own way. Being all alone, the elevator, dressed completely in black, strangely quick cremation, the relative sadness (or speedy coming to terms with) of everyone that was close to him... It is no more or less foolish than to think that: - an extremely intelligent person was on the verge of dying days earlier and would make the same mistake again - he would leave no will (being a micro manager) - he would choose to be all alone with not even security at the door - the date coincidence is just an extremely weird coincidence - media don't lie Etc. All is speculation because as always we know very little. Personally, I think if someone could pull off a fake death, that would be Prince. Or Bowie. Call me a lunatic. | |
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Very poignant. I agree with so much of what you wrote. As big as a fan I am, to me, he was just a man. A deeply flawed, soul-stricken man. Perhaps, people like you and I are more of what he needed? I do believe, in my heart, that he was gravely ill though. I also believe, as you suggested, that his departure was also in his planning. God love him. I wish he would have opened up to someone. In my heart, I think it could have been/should have been Mayte. I think she loved him as a man, not "Prince". Perhaps, things could have/would have been different. He was so afraid of appearances and being hurt, that he hurt himself. I also think the passing of Vanity hit it deeply...not because she was his true love or soulmate, I believe again, that was only Mayte. But her passing was hard and painful and sadly not "pretty". I think if he had a grave illness, he didn't want to go out of the world that way. I've seen too many people I love die from cancer or terminal illness. I just wish him peace. | |
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If Prince was dying from any terminal health conditions, diseases, the Midwest Medical Examiner's report would have listed it. The Midwest Medical Examiner's report says under "Other significant conditions: na" - not applicable - nothing, zero, so no cancer, no AIDS, etc. The National Enquirer claimed Prince had AIDS. The Midwest Medical Examiner's report refutes all of that tabloid nonsense, the speculation gossip and the loony conspiracy fear mongering that Satanic Illuminati ninjas got him because Prince mentioned the chemtrails conspiracy theory on Tavis Smiley's PBS TV show once back in 2009.
The Midwest Medical Examiner's toxicology results confirmed that Prince died from Fentanyl, which is an opioid more powerful than Percocet and more powerful than heroin and more powerful than morphine. At the April 22nd press conference Martha Weaver from the Midwest Medical Examiner's office explained Prince's autopsy was "a very meticulous exam. It was a complete exam." Prince's cause of death results were totally "pending" on the toxicology results because Prince had no terminal illness conditions. The Fentanyl was likely prescribed by former Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg. On April 20th Prince with Kirk Johnson (bodyguard/driver/best man at Prince's wedding to Mayte/drummer/personal trainer/former Paisley Park Estate manager) saw Dr. Michael Schulenberg who performed “some tests” on Prince and prescribed Prince medications and the prescriptions were to be filled at a Walgreens, and the last picture of Prince was taken as Prince was at Walgreens picking up the prescriptions. Kirk Johnson dropped off Prince at Paisley Park studios at around 8 p.m.
The Midwest Medical Examiner's report also explained that Prince had "a scar on his right lower leg" and "a scar on his left hip", confirming Prince's hip pain and leg pain, which is why Prince was trying to use as pain medication prescribed Percocet (which Prince had overdosed on) and Fentanyl (which Prince died from). The Midwest Medical Examiner's report also conformed that Prince was not just fully dressed, the described black clothes and black cap Prince died wearing matches the same thing he was wearing in the last photo of him in the Walgreens parking lot walking back to his car, so he very likely died in the elevator on the night of April 20th soon after Kirk Johnson dropped him off at Paisley Park Studio.
Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg was actually Kirk Johnson's own doctor. Prince should NOT have been prescribed Fentanyl on April 20th, especially after the overdose on Percocet that almost killed Prince on April 15th. Kirk Johnson is also a fitness instructor and use to own Club Hip Fit from 1998-2011. http://hipfit.net/default/ https://www.youtube.com/c...oaqf7ZmLsA Kirk Johnson hasn't returned to his job at the local gym where he teaches classes as Group Fitness Instructor at Lifetime Fitness, according to his fellow personal trainers and Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg has suddenly stopped working as a doctor at North Memorial Medical Clinic in Minnetonka, Minnesota after Prince's death, and is laying low during the DEA investigation. Dr. Michael Schulenberg’s name doesn’t even appear on a list of Minnesota doctors authorised to treat opioid dependency. If Prince planned on being dead then he wouldn't have bought a new custom made guitar and ordered a new custom made bass if he wasn't planning on getting to play them. Gus had just started making guitars for Prince. https://www.youtube.com/w...62WcmU9aPQ
If Prince was dying from a terminal health condition like cancer or AIDS then Prince likely wouldn't have even been physically able to have been riding his bike or working on the new album he was working on collaborating with bassist Dywane Thomas Jr. "MonoNeon" from Memphis. Prince was producing, playing guitar, and keyboards. The new band also featured Kirk Johnson back on drums and Adrian Crutchfield on sax and electric woodwinds. Bassist Dywane Thomas Jr. "MonoNeon" explained, “I do remember Prince saying he was going to name the album Black Is The New Black. Prince was the one who decided to use the moniker 'Mono Neon' for the release of 'Ruff Enuff.” http://blog.kexp.org/2016...th-prince/
Plus the plans Prince made with Van Jones (lawyer/activist/CNN political commentator). Van Jones explained, "He had so many things that he wanted to do next. He had just gotten his catalogue back. Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, who was his manager in the last years, young African American woman from the labor movement, no legal background, went to war on his behalf with the music industry, he had just gotten his catalogue back. So he was talking about wanting to do cartoons for children and to be able to control his own music and help the children. There's so many things that he was trying to do now. And he cared so much just about ordinary people. When the Black Lives Matter people started protesting, he understood where they were coming from. He was a rebel. He said, 'Look, lets reach out to those kids, lets go to Baltimore.' He said, 'I want them to become an economic force. Use your passion to be creative, to create apps, to create businesses, to create jobs.' So that's why he started Yes We Code and all these other programs, Green 4 All. He said, 'Lift up these people who are hurting.' He kept creating." https://www.youtube.com/w...EppqdoSyW8 etc. Prince had a lot of plans for the future. And a memoir isn't a last will and testament. Prince’s publishers Spiegel & Grau described the planned memoir as “an unconventional and poetic journey through his life and creative work.” It was going to be poetic likely like typical cryptic poetic Prince lyrics, writing poetic interpretations of events in his life, his views and likely lots and lots of focus on his spiritual beliefs, like "I no there was an angel who most certainly watched over me, but if it got me through the day, is it crazy", etc. written about his life like his song lyrics "the Sacrifice of Victor" and "the Same December" lyrics were. It wasn't going to be the conventional gossipy tell-all people were hoping for. Some chapters or segments might have even been written backwards as "mirror messages" that you have to hold up to a mirror to read as Prince did on the Symbol album CD lyric booklet. Prince also might have had an idea to make some pages like a pop up book and other pages fold out like a centerfold and he might have had some of his drawings in it, too (like as seen on the NPG Exodus CD and New Power Soul CD booklet, since he was that creative, loved to surpise and break the rules.
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Get real. 
The autopsy listed causes of death. Not potential causes of future death if he had not died now. They did a lot to protect his privacy so I think it is close to certain that even if he did have for instance cancer, they would not have mentioned it as it was not a cause of death at this point. David Bowie created the Black Star album while dying from cancer. Of course Prince could do the same, especially as he didn't die from cancer on April 21/20. He MIGHT have at a later date IF he did have cancer, but he didn't on that day. The same for riding a bike and whatever else. I have known two wonderful ladies who kept working till cancer took them. One was riding and training problem horses. I don't know how she did it, but she did. The other held a party shortly before her death saying goodbye to friends and family. And they were at the brink of death from cancer, again he died from an overdose of painkillers, not cancer. IF he had that it was not far enough gone to take his life that day. Anything is possible, we just don't know. | |
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FYI, Legally, "n/a" means "not applicable" and does not mean "none"
There is a difference.
Prince could have had other known medical conditions but those did not cause his death. Hence, the term "n/a" on the released report. | |
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I just find it strange that Prince did not have his own Dr. in his own hometown. Not even for regular or even once in a blue moon checkups. | |
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Thanks to both of you for putting this out there yet again. Manner and cause of death would be the only thing listed on the public report. Nothing else need be listed there if it didn't cause death, and that includes any other conditions he may have had. Fentanyl caused his death.
[Edited 6/21/16 10:25am] Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end  | |
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Frankly, as for me personally, I do think that Prince may have had AIDS, and that it was a contributing factor in his death. Now, that may make some angry (although I have no reason why) but I think that he did have the disease, because many things point to it, including the secrecy and cover up that seems to be going on surrounding his death, not wanting to list more than the overdose, cremating him so quickly, etc. Sorry to say, but I think that the familly requested that the whole truth about Prince's health and death not be released, and they are complying because it also protect the state of Minnesota and their "star" and Prince's legacy, in which we all know means future income for both family and state. Let's face it, the state of Minnesota never seemed to care where Prince was concerned before, but after his death, they saw what an impact he had on the world, and now they suddenly care so much about him. Sorry if that offends some, but it's true. Prince cared more about Minnesota than I think Minnesota cared about him. Now, I was just reading the other day, about this woman who was telling her story about how her boyfriend deceived her and knowingly infected her with HIV, in which she found out only after getting sick and going to the doctor. She was talking about her symptoms, and most everything she said, sounded a lot like the symptoms that were reported that Prince had, like sudden weight loss, not being able to eat, losing her fingernails, hair loss, pain, etc. We all know and could see that Prince lost a lot of weight in recent months, and we all heard about him not being able to eat. We also saw his hair thinning, and many say that he was in pain, now I know that it could have been hip pain also, but it was probably something more, in which is why he was taking Fentanyl. Think about it, Prince had been suffering with hip pain for a long time, but that really didn't stop him over the years, the pain he was in probably was getting worse, but not just from his hips. Also, I've heard many of you question why he was seen wearing gloves, even when it wasn't cold? I think maybe that was due to his fingertips turning brown, and trouble with his nails, as reported, it does make sense. Lastly, they say that Prince contracted HIV in the 90's and was taking HIV treatment, then stopped because he thought that God would heal him, in which sounds like something Prince would do, since he was so religious. It was said that it was then that his HIV turned into AIDS, and that he was given 6 months to live, because nothing could be done after he let it progressed. Now, sorry if that offends some of you (and again, I don't know why it would) but I think that this is more believable than all the other stuff out there. Everyone is saying how they don't believe that Prince was a druggie (neither do I) because everyone around him have stated over and over again, how clean living he was, and used to warn them about drugs, and personally, I don't think it was cancer, leukemia, and anything else, because, let's be truthful, people don't hide anything if they have they illnesses, but with AIDS/HIV, they do, even in this day and age. Now, this is just my opinion, what I believe. I know that no matter what, others will believe what they want to. I'm just tired of people turning a blind eye, acting as though this is unthinkable or couldn't have happened, because Prince was human, and considering the life he led, before he changed to being so religious, it could have very well been a possibility. We have all heard about Prince's past concerning all the women, and much more.....at least I have, that's why I don't rule out that he could have indeed had AIDS, and that he knew it, and knew that he didn't have long in this world.
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