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Reply #60 posted 04/30/16 8:19am

lwr001

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/29/prince-had-signed-up-for-rehab-before-death/

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Reply #61 posted 04/30/16 8:21am

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I'm Sorry but I WILL NEVER BELIEVE THIS MEDIA BS TRYING TO ASSOCIATE DRUGS WITH PRINCE!!!! They are trying to capitalize on his DEATH AND IT MAKES ME BEYOND SICK! TURN IT OFF! Don't give them any ratings and dont buy the TABLOIDS at the STORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They are making money on his death. If I had a lighter I would have burned them yesterday when I went to get groceries at the store. It said something about Aids. I wanted to burn it! SICK!All I could do is give my finger! F'IN EVIL TABOILD MEDIA! Don't fall for it fams! Save your money towards paying your respects at Paisley Park. Thank God he passed away at his home Paisley Park apartment. Thank God we got that.And the family didn't have to bring his body home from somewhere else like Canada or Austrailia or Europe. But my advise is to turn off the TV and shut your eyes at the store until the Autopsy results and toxolgy comes back. It is so hard but we have to wait. Prince was never on drugs and if they find anything in him to cause the death then he was murdered.You dont ground a plane for influenza and cold medicine.You ground the plane cause someone has had an attack and gone unconcious. Seizure, Stroke, heart attack, things like that. It's my intuition that the influenza was something prince made up to protect us and not make us fans worry. I think there was more going on health wise and the media is covering it up for magazine sales and profit. So let's wait til we know more.The media can kiss my big ugly white a@@!
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Reply #62 posted 04/30/16 8:38am

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lwr001 said:

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/29/prince-had-signed-up-for-rehab-before-death/

No one has picked this info up yet. How reliable is Page Six? Surely it's an easy check with the rehab facility to confirm the booking. If it comes up on TMZ it's a safer bet it's true.

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Reply #63 posted 04/30/16 8:46am

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breakbeat said:



lwr001 said:


http://pagesix.com/2016/04/29/prince-had-signed-up-for-rehab-before-death/



No one has picked this info up yet. How reliable is Page Six? Surely it's an easy check with the rehab facility to confirm the booking. If it comes up on TMZ it's a safer bet it's true.

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That's been reported before, just normally referred to outpatient treatment instead of "rehab". Outpatient treatment could also be physical therapy and things like that, though it's looking more and more like he may have had an addicition issue.
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Reply #64 posted 04/30/16 9:23am

lwr001

breakbeat said:

lwr001 said:

http://pagesix.com/2016/04/29/prince-had-signed-up-for-rehab-before-death/

No one has picked this info up yet. How reliable is Page Six? Surely it's an easy check with the rehab facility to confirm the booking. If it comes up on TMZ it's a safer bet it's true.

[Edited 4/30/16 8:39am]

Page 6 is the NY Post

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Reply #65 posted 04/30/16 9:25am

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Why is this mess the most popular thread here... razz confused

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Reply #66 posted 04/30/16 9:48am

breakbeat

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I hate to say it, but his kicks looked comfortable. His 'do was a little frayed but other than that he looked OK.

Are they some high-heel-sneaker crossover, with Nike style air chambers in the "heel gap" between forefoot and heel point?

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Reply #67 posted 04/30/16 10:02am

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Nothing that comes out about Prince in the coming days, weeks or months could tarnish the immense positive impact he had on this planet. He gave a lot of love and enjoyment to a whole lotta people, and he never hurt anyone. Whatever was going on in his private life is irrelevant. Sure I'd like to know the truth, but it won't change my perception of him at all. Maybe because I've known since I was a kid that nobody who walks on this earth is perfect.

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Reply #68 posted 04/30/16 10:06am

lwr001

Pokeno4Money said:

Nothing that comes out about Prince in the coming days, weeks or months could tarnish the immense positive impact he had on this planet. He gave a lot of love and enjoyment to a whole lotta people, and he never hurt anyone. Whatever was going on in his private life is irrelevant. Sure I'd like to know the truth, but it won't change my perception of him at all. Maybe because I've known since I was a kid that nobody who walks on this earth is perfect.

exactly..nothing at all

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Reply #69 posted 04/30/16 10:08am

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lwr001 said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Nothing that comes out about Prince in the coming days, weeks or months could tarnish the immense positive impact he had on this planet. He gave a lot of love and enjoyment to a whole lotta people, and he never hurt anyone. Whatever was going on in his private life is irrelevant. Sure I'd like to know the truth, but it won't change my perception of him at all. Maybe because I've known since I was a kid that nobody who walks on this earth is perfect.

Says it all. lock

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Reply #70 posted 04/30/16 10:17am

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There are now measures in place to catch patients doctor shopping and pharmacy hopping. There is required reporting by pharmacies to a state data base that physicians have access to as far as who is being prescribed a certain class of meds. So we need to stop looking to blame health care providers. They are actually doing more than anyone to manage this national crisis. Opiates have a high potential for abuse and misuse. Drug addict is an unfair label. Dependence is a more accurate term although they mean the same thing but it suggests it was involuntary which is often the case with patients prescribed these meds. They weren't seeking to get high when they initially went to the doctor for a legit health issue.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #71 posted 04/30/16 10:26am

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And to whatever extent prince was involved in any such issues makes no difference to me. Except more empathy for the difficulties he may have faced out of the public eye. I will always deeply respect and admire him, even more so if that's possible. A terrible shame he didn't have more support or an understanding in his inner circle about how fragile the situation was and how important 24/7 observation was at this time.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #72 posted 04/30/16 10:39am

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Is it dependency or addiction? I thought dependence would be reliant of meds for pain relief and addiction is where they keep upping the dosages to get the same effect, the effect being what they want? It seems like he tried to kick an addiction (withdrawal symptoms) then fell off the wagon and went back to the "high" dosage he was used to and it took it's toll. Either way, if he was using these for a long period of time, surely a doctor should have seen the tolerance being built and switched up meds so dependency or addiction didn't become a factor for the patient.

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Reply #73 posted 04/30/16 10:40am

lwr001

sonshine said:

And to whatever extent prince was involved in any such issues makes no difference to me. Except more empathy for the difficulties he may have faced out of the public eye. I will always deeply respect and admire him, even more so if that's possible. A terrible shame he didn't have more support or an understanding in his inner circle about how fragile the situation was and how important 24/7 observation was at this time.

THATS my thinking as well.. I am a combat vet who lost many freinds over the last several years form injuries and associated mdicine they were taking,,Sometimes we dont fully appreaciate or undertstand the tenuouos situation we find ourselves in..Further, just cold stoppingf that medication will kill you as well

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Reply #74 posted 04/30/16 12:37pm

narcotizedmind

So its OK to talk about this now?

"The Truth"

What if half the things ever said
Turned out 2 be a lie...
How will U know the Truth?
If U were given all the answers
And U stopped 2 wonder why
But how will U know the Truth?

Everybody's got a right to love
Everybody's got a right to lie
But the choice U make ain't no piece of cake
It ain't no MF piece of pie

[clock ticks]

What If time's only reason?
Was to give us all somethin' 2 fear?
And if so y'all, the end of the journey's so clear

Questionaire, What did U stand 4?
Questionaire, Who did U save?
When it gets right down to-wait a minute
When it gets right down to the nitty of the gritty
When it gets right down to it U take more than U gave

Everybody got a right to love
Everybody got a right to lie
But the choice U make aint no piece of cake
It ain't no MFMF [prince screams the following] piece of pie [computer blips]

Mmmm oh
Gotta (Gonna?) tell the truth y'all
Gotta tell the truth
Gotta tell the truth y'all
Gotta tell the truth
Gotta tell the truth y'all
Gotta tell the truth

If there was just one day
That everybody tell the truth
We'd all trade bank accounts & move to Neptune

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Reply #75 posted 04/30/16 2:23pm

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sonshine said:

And to whatever extent prince was involved in any such issues makes no difference to me. Except more empathy for the difficulties he may have faced out of the public eye. I will always deeply respect and admire him, even more so if that's possible. A terrible shame he didn't have more support or an understanding in his inner circle about how fragile the situation was and how important 24/7 observation was at this time.

ya, that makes me feel bad, yes men were probably all he had around him. Elvis, as bad as the guys were around him, even those guys would go apeshit and really did try to help him. Poor guy couldn't stop. Addiction is an ugly thing.

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Reply #76 posted 04/30/16 2:53pm

Free2BMe

I wonder if this was what Van meant on CNN when he was in tears and said he felt "guilty". The cNN anchor asked him what he meant and he said he felt guilty because he wondered if he should have done more to help Prince. At the time, I thought that was strange to say when all reports were that Prince had been suffering from the flu. Now, with these other reports of opiate use, maybe that's what Van was speaking of. sad
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Reply #77 posted 05/01/16 3:11am

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purplethunder3121 said:

lwr001 said:

Says it all. lock

Right to the point.

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Reply #78 posted 05/01/16 4:54am

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lwr001 said:

two years earlier this pic he looks healthy ,,now feel free to debate how someone detirorates that much in two years if nothing was going on..Mind you ..it changes nothing for me

We see 1 pic which is a full body shot from a distance, its definitly not a promotional pic or a pic where he was preparing or wanting to have his picture taken. His facial expression could be percieved as grimacing in pain or there could be many other reasons for it.

The 2nd pic is obviously at at public event , it is not a full body shot but only shows him from chest up and is a up close shot compared to the first.

Im just not sure one can make too much of a case either way simply based on these 2 pics, which are different from each other in every way.

So far to me it sounds like as reported he may have had major pain issues relating to his hips, and he was dealing with that by taking meds like percocet.

But really at this point I think untill the autopsy results come back we dont really know anything for sure.

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Reply #79 posted 05/01/16 5:42am

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Many states now have data bases of patients names, dates of birth and a record of controlled substances filled, and where. In New York, it's mandatory for a prescriber to check the data base and make a record of the confirmation number that they have checked. It's called I-stop. Connecticut and Rhode Island has it as well. Pharmacies in those states have access to the same
Records and it's used to make sure a patient isn't Doctor shopping or pharmacy shopping. I don't know if Minnesota has it.
I would be sad if Prince was addicted, because satisfying the addiction becomes the focus of life.
That being said I can understand how a celebrity like Pronxe could find ways to circumvent the checks and balances in place. who knows if his family tried to do an intervention. He would be a strong opponent to battle with. I can imagine anyone saying "if you don't go to rehab, I'm cutting you out of my life until you do". There would be too many willing to fill in the role.
Whatever happened, we will learn eventually.
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Reply #80 posted 05/02/16 1:46am

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JudasLChrist said:

There's something not cool about people pearl-clutching so hard about Prince possibly having been addicted to prescription opiates and having been a 'drug addict'



Similarly, I've just seen that another thread discussing the possibility of Prince succumbing to AIDS, has been locked, overnight.

A prior similar thread was locked a few days ago, with the moderator suggesting that the discussion was continued in "the sticky" for "absurdities" etc...

Is it really so absurd to believe that Prince may have died of AIDS?

There's something a tad stigmatising, to suggest that the possibility is absurd. Why should one illness be singled-out as being an impossibility, while other illnesses are not?

Aside from the problems with his hips/knees, and possible addiction to painkillers, Prince may have also had a terminal disease, such as HIV or some form of cancer. The chef revealing that Prince had difficulty eating, leads me to believe that something else was awry, other than addiction due to joint pain.

It's not absurd to discuss the possibility of AIDS, but it is stigmatising to those suffering from HIV to have any discussion silenced.

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Reply #81 posted 05/02/16 3:41am

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Prince was an addict. Lenny pretty much confirmed this on radio, without saying.



What did he say?
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Reply #82 posted 05/02/16 4:54am

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And the thing that gets me is if he was sick or frail, why is he carrying his own bag? Especially if he had sore hips?

lwr001 said:

In hindsight, look at the pictiure,, that is not a healtyh person here

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Reply #83 posted 05/02/16 5:18am

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GirlBrother said:

JudasLChrist said:

There's something not cool about people pearl-clutching so hard about Prince possibly having been addicted to prescription opiates and having been a 'drug addict'



Similarly, I've just seen that another thread discussing the possibility of Prince succumbing to AIDS, has been locked, overnight.

A prior similar thread was locked a few days ago, with the moderator suggesting that the discussion was continued in "the sticky" for "absurdities" etc...

Is it really so absurd to believe that Prince may have died of AIDS?

There's something a tad stigmatising, to suggest that the possibility is absurd. Why should one illness be singled-out as being an impossibility, while other illnesses are not?

Aside from the problems with his hips/knees, and possible addiction to painkillers, Prince may have also had a terminal disease, such as HIV or some form of cancer. The chef revealing that Prince had difficulty eating, leads me to believe that something else was awry, other than addiction due to joint pain.

It's not absurd to discuss the possibility of AIDS, but it is stigmatising to those suffering from HIV to have any discussion silenced.



What's absurd about it is not so much the theme of AIDS but that it's a story originated from the National Enquirer! Obviously, a trashy shock tabloid with zero research in facts to back up their stories..

And secondly common sense says it's absurd, prince was in the middle of a world tour, had just played 2 shows a week earlier, out riding his bike and going to jazz bars & record stores days earlier.. You could not be doing any of this if you were in the final weeks of AIDS, you would have zero energy and be way too weak
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Reply #84 posted 05/02/16 7:39am

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sfinky1 said:

What's absurd about it is not so much the theme of AIDS but that it's a story originated from the National Enquirer! Obviously, a trashy shock tabloid with zero research in facts to back up their stories..


Have The National Enquirer ever broken a diagnosis of HIV/AIDS and later been sued for being wrong?

The magazine is trashy, but how often has it been proved to be inaccurate? I mean, I guess the most recent example was Charlie Sheen.

http://www.hollywoodrepor...oid-880714

sfinky1 said:

And secondly common sense says it's absurd, prince was in the middle of a world tour, had just played 2 shows a week earlier, out riding his bike and going to jazz bars & record stores days earlier.. You could not be doing any of this if you were in the final weeks of AIDS, you would have zero energy and be way too weak


But he obviously was too weak to have been doing those things.

Prince was always skinny. Any weight loss wouldn't have been as apparent on him, as it was on someone like Rock Hudson. Even with saying that, he did look noticeably thinner in the last year or so.

And yes, it could have been purely some form of cancer, rather than AIDS-related cancer. I just honestly believe that those "in the know" would have told us already if it was purely cancer, because there is still this stigma in the mainstream.

I feel like Lenny Kravitz knew what was wrong. I also feel like Sheila E. has been told what was wrong, since his passing.

Maybe that's why Sheila has a negative opinion of releasing The Vault recordings. She may think that releasing a thousand songs about sex could be seen as being in poor taste, if he died of a sexually-transmitted disease.

The fact is that none of us know at this time, but treating any discussion of the possibility as being absurd, is a disservice to anybody coping with an HIV+ status.

It's almost being whispered like a dirty little secret. Treating AIDS as being beneath Prince in some way, is the ultimate act of "slut shaming" anybody whom is suffering from the disease.
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Reply #85 posted 05/02/16 7:57am

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GirlBrother said:

sfinky1 said:
What's absurd about it is not so much the theme of AIDS but that it's a story originated from the National Enquirer! Obviously, a trashy shock tabloid with zero research in facts to back up their stories..
Have The National Enquirer ever broken a diagnosis of HIV/AIDS and later been sued for being wrong? The magazine is trashy, but how often has it been proved to be inaccurate? I mean, I guess the most recent example was Charlie Sheen. http://www.hollywoodrepor...oid-880714 sfinky1 said:
And secondly common sense says it's absurd, prince was in the middle of a world tour, had just played 2 shows a week earlier, out riding his bike and going to jazz bars & record stores days earlier.. You could not be doing any of this if you were in the final weeks of AIDS, you would have zero energy and be way too weak
But he obviously was too weak to have been doing those things. Prince was always skinny. Any weight loss wouldn't have been as apparent on him, as it was on someone like Rock Hudson. Even with saying that, he did look noticeably thinner in the last year or so. And yes, it could have been purely some form of cancer, rather than AIDS-related cancer. I just honestly believe that those "in the know" would have told us already if it was purely cancer, because there is still this stigma in the mainstream. I feel like Lenny Kravitz knew what was wrong. I also feel like Sheila E. has been told what was wrong, since his passing. Maybe that's why Sheila has a negative opinion of releasing The Vault recordings. She may think that releasing a thousand songs about sex could be seen as being in poor taste, if he died of a sexually-transmitted disease. The fact is that none of us know at this time, but treating any discussion of the possibility as being absurd, is a disservice to anybody coping with an HIV+ status. It's almost being whispered like a dirty little secret. Treating AIDS as being beneath Prince in some way, is the ultimate act of "slut shaming" anybody whom is suffering from the disease.

This could also be said if he did have a pain relief medication dependancy...

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