SoulAlive said:

So many crazy rumors and lies being spread by these tabloids Please people,ignore these rags and wait for the official results of the autopsy!

I wonder can you Trust the official results of the autopsy? Isn't it possible they could be bought to say something that is not true Maybe I'm a little skeptical like P, I don't think he had much trust in the government or elected officials...

SquirrelMeat said:

A big desease with a little name.

If it turns out to be true it wont change my love for him as a fan. It will only make me sadder because he couldve lived with proper care. I dont wanna sound negative but I truly belief the JW's caused alot of this. He needed health care, but wasn't allowed to get it

Then you see them on CNN trynna back track saying they never told him he couldn't have surgery or get help...I dont believe a word they say.

Then we have the issue of Prince himself being able to deal with growing older and even dealing with a sickness like that Remember alot of this man's career was based on his looks and his style as a man....I dont think he wouldve wanted to live with it.

TrevorAyer said:

You know there are LAWS that prevent public access to personal medical records As in ... It's nobodies business .. Not sure about post mortem BUT short of a diagnosis indicating foul play, I see no reason why anyone should have access to his medical info ... He certainly wouldn't want that

and we wont

I know it's other people besides the Enquirer that is posting the AIDS story but it is going to be the glaring Enquirer cover that is going to catch attention. Apparently this week the big Enquirer story is that Ted Cruz's dad might have had a hand in killing JFK. Last week Angelina Jolie was dying and apparently Michael Douglas is in his last days even though I think he is in remission. It's a slow news time and a mystery death like Prince is just what they needed. Their first goal was probably to get a coffin shot, like they did with Elvis and Whitney. Since that couldn't happen, Plan B which is to splash AIDS on the cover. Hell, the blind item was already out there, throw it out there and see if it sticks, right? Ignorant morons will see the cover, make their stupid AIDS jokes, and the Enquirer will laugh all the way to the bank. Their thought is that dead men don't sue and the family is in such disarray right now that they are not going to be able to assemble a legal team. And if they do, so what, the Enquirer will make tons off the issue and any damages, likely out of court, will pale in comparison. If it's true, it's true but I'm not going to believe it just because the Enquirer says so.

Arbwyth said:

ThirdStrike said:

Maybe overthinking everything. I think it's quite possible...plausible actually that it was a simple accidental OD of pain mediciation relating to his hip issues. Very possible that it was a repeat of the emergency landing response, only this time it occured without anyone to react to it. He most likely would have died on the plane initially had he not had people there to intervene (if that story is true, of course). Most likely was saved then, but a few days later events occured a second time while he was at home alone. Again, very possible IMO. Don't believe at all he was purposely abusing anything though. He just took too much legal medication unknowingly and died as a result. As tragic and heartbreaking as that is to type, it is a distinct possibility.

Thoughts?

Well, percocet DOES have acetominophen in it -- which is just Tylenol -- and there are plenty of warnings regarding Tylenol causing liver issues. People die from Tylenol alone on a regular basis because, with it being OTC, they don't realize how dangerous large amounts can be. And, a lot of people don't even realize percocet contains Tylenol, so they'll take regular Tylenol as well, which can be a recipe for disaster. Prince may have been a genius, but he wasn't a medical professional and unless somebody made it clear to him, he could very well not have known this; I've had percocet prescribed to me and wouldn't have known this if I hadn't looked at the label closely.

I have a habit of researching everything before I even fill my prescriptions. Even when I was hospitalized I interrogated the staff whenever they came toward me with some concoction. I try to look up drug interactions too. A lot of people think tylenol is harmless and they don't know about tylenol and perocet.

It's so hard for me to wait for official word but I'm going to force myself.

nursev said:

SquirrelMeat said:

A big desease with a little name.

If it turns out to be true it wont change my love for him as a fan. It will only make me sadder because he couldve lived with proper care. I dont wanna sound negative but I truly belief the JW's caused alot of this. He needed health care, but wasn't allowed to get it

Me too. I'll read the stories, and wonder why/how, but really I don't care about how he died, I care about how he lived. Our little Princey is gone, and thats all that matters. x

GottaLetitgo said:

I know it's other people besides the Enquirer that is posting the AIDS story but it is going to be the glaring Enquirer cover that is going to catch attention. Apparently this week the big Enquirer story is that Ted Cruz's dad might have had a hand in killing JFK. Last week Angelina Jolie was dying and apparently Michael Douglas is in his last days even though I think he is in remission. It's a slow news time and a mystery death like Prince is just what they needed. Their first goal was probably to get a coffin shot, like they did with Elvis and Whitney. Since that couldn't happen, Plan B which is to splash AIDS on the cover. Hell, the blind item was already out there, throw it out there and see if it sticks, right? Ignorant morons will see the cover, make their stupid AIDS jokes, and the Enquirer will laugh all the way to the bank. Their thought is that dead men don't sue and the family is in such disarray right now that they are not going to be able to assemble a legal team. And if they do, so what, the Enquirer will make tons off the issue and any damages, likely out of court, will pale in comparison. If it's true, it's true but I'm not going to believe it just because the Enquirer says so.

How do such rags keep on going when their "news" turn out to be lies or hyperbole time after time after time? I mean, I ´m sure they don´t take themselves seriously and their journalistic standards are practically nonexistent but still....have they ever apologized after their headlines turned out to be wrong?

[Edited 4/27/16 16:16pm]

The thought had crossed my mind - perhaps he was living with some sort of chronic illness, became very upset when Vanity passed, and then chose to stop taking his own medication(s).

The stories I read sounded like Vanity was unable/willing to continue her life saving treatments. She openly told her church she was "ready to go home" the day before she passed. I took that to mean she chose to discontinue her treatments and pass on.

We'll never know how he truly felt about her passing. The timing is terrible. I hate to imagine... it's very sad.

KoolEaze said:

GottaLetitgo said:

I know it's other people besides the Enquirer that is posting the AIDS story but it is going to be the glaring Enquirer cover that is going to catch attention. Apparently this week the big Enquirer story is that Ted Cruz's dad might have had a hand in killing JFK. Last week Angelina Jolie was dying and apparently Michael Douglas is in his last days even though I think he is in remission. It's a slow news time and a mystery death like Prince is just what they needed. Their first goal was probably to get a coffin shot, like they did with Elvis and Whitney. Since that couldn't happen, Plan B which is to splash AIDS on the cover. Hell, the blind item was already out there, throw it out there and see if it sticks, right? Ignorant morons will see the cover, make their stupid AIDS jokes, and the Enquirer will laugh all the way to the bank. Their thought is that dead men don't sue and the family is in such disarray right now that they are not going to be able to assemble a legal team. And if they do, so what, the Enquirer will make tons off the issue and any damages, likely out of court, will pale in comparison. If it's true, it's true but I'm not going to believe it just because the Enquirer says so.

How so such rags keep on going when their "news" turn out to be lies or hyperbole time after time after time? I mean, I ´m sure they don´t take themselves seriously and their journalistic standards are practically nonexistent but still....have they ever apologized after their headlines turned out to be wrong?

The reason they "keep going" is because the poop they spread is what the small minded population think.

FUNKNROLL said:

The thought had crossed my mind - perhaps he was living with some sort of chronic illness, became very upset when Vanity passed, and then chose to stop taking his own medication(s).

The stories I read sounded like Vanity was unable/willing to continue her life saving treatments. She openly told her church she was "ready to go home" the day before she passed. I took that to mean she chose to discontinue her treatments and pass on.

We'll never know how he truly felt about her passing. The timing is terrible. I hate to imagine... it's very sad.

very true and truly sad.

SquirrelMeat said:

nursev said:

If it turns out to be true it wont change my love for him as a fan. It will only make me sadder because he couldve lived with proper care. I dont wanna sound negative but I truly belief the JW's caused alot of this. He needed health care, but wasn't allowed to get it

Me too. I'll read the stories, and wonder why/how, but really I don't care about how he died, I care about how he lived. Our little Princey is gone, and thats all that matters. x

it really is

If he was living with HIV/AIDS it shouldn't change anybody's love for him. Hard to imagine anybody getting judgemental about Prince - the man made his name on being famously promiscuous. Too many songs hint at bisexuality. If you have identity baggage and you're a Prince fan... ((YOU)) really have identity baggage.

Yeah, I don't really get this. It doesn't change a thing for me.

FUNKNROLL said:

itsnotallover said:

GirlBrother said:

rainbowchild said:

Actually he looked really frail in the last photos he was shot, even when he appeared on TV in recent months, he didn't look well.

And he looked so young for years, partly by wearing make-up. The afro (wig?) and three-eyed glasses covered a lot of his face too. He looked tired and very thin at the Grammys, when he presented the award to Beck.

I had close seats during his Oakland concert back in March, with cameras zooming in on his face and the top of his head. Other than tell-tale signs of thinning hair and wrinkles which come with age, there was nothing revealing any deterioration of his health.

Of course, such an eyewitness account means nothing when it comes to his diagnosis, but discussions about how frail he appeared in the last six months seem grossly exaggerated.

And screw THE ENQUIRER.

[Edited 4/27/16 18:03pm]

At the end of day if it turned out that these rumors are true it still wont change my appreciation for Prince's music or change my thoughts on him as a human being. I will still love and miss Prince very much. His personal life was his.

MakeUpIsFabulous said:

At the end of day if it turned out that these rumors are true it still wont change my appreciation for Prince's music or change my thoughts on him as a human being. I will still love and miss Prince very much. His personal life was his.

Bang on.

He exhibited zero symptoms of suffering from either HIV or AIDS.

I don't expect for a minute that he had AIDS -- it wouldn't particuarly upset me, but I think it's just more of the media frenzy feeding itself.

I expect he died from an overdose of a prescription drug or pneumonia as mentioned earlier. A friend of mine is going to the Rio Olympics to run the 4x400m relay this summer; last November he contracted what he thought was a flu; eventually he went to hospital where they informed him that if he'd stayed at home two days longer he would have died of pneumonia. Prince, at age 57, has every chance of having died of something similar.

KoolEaze said:

GirlBrother said:

It's going front-page on this week's National Enquirer. I can't believe that if he was HIV+, he wouldn't take the appropriate medication to prolong his life and stave off AIDS. There's no reason these days for anybody with HIV not to live a long life.

Extreme Christian cults believe in proper medicines as unchristian and think the power of prayer can cure any disease.

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The aids rumour is up there with the one he was a cocaine and opium addict for the last 10 years of his life.

I may be way off base here, but I lay his death soley at the feet of Larry Graham. No one wants to believe the story about AIDs, but unfortunately it will be proven true. It makes the situation all the more heartbreaking because he didn't have to die. Multiple stories suggest it was his close religious friends that convinced him to go off his medication and that he had been cured by God. Unless things had changed, Larry was his biggest spiritural influence in JW.

As for any arguement that it was against the JW religion to take the medication - that just isn't true at all. If it were, Prince would have never taken the percocet.

This is all just so horrible and tragically preventable.

jonnymon said:

I may be way off base here, but I lay his death soley at the feet of Larry Graham. No one wants to believe the story about AIDs, but unfortunately it will be proven true. It makes the situation all the more heartbreaking because he didn't have to die. Multiple stories suggest it was his close religious friends that convinced him to go off his medication and that he had been cured by God. Unless things had changed, Larry was his biggest spiritural influence in JW.

As for any arguement that it was against the JW religion to take the medication - that just isn't true at all. If it were, Prince would have never taken the percocet.

This is all just so horrible and tragically preventable.

Had to reopen my account after a couple years just to say one thing. I agree with all you said in the above post, except for one small detail that people are overlooking. JW's do not believe in miraculous healing by God (at least from what I've known from the JW's I have encountered) and also would not advise against taking meds that someone had been taking for the better part of 20 years (if given the correct time frame). The blind item said the subject was taking meds up until 2 years ago.

My question is this: who else was P closely around 2 years ago that WOULD believe in miraculous healing by God and maybe indirectly influence him? Just a question with a very obvious answer if you think about it..

[Edited 4/27/16 21:40pm]

EchoChild said:

KoolEaze said:

I read the first AIDS related articles in 1990 when he looked very skinny duering the nude tour.

But then wouldn't Mayte and Mani have been at risk?

Exactly.

I asked the same question in my first post on this thread on the first or second page.

jonnymon said:

I may be way off base here, but I lay his death soley at the feet of Larry Graham. No one wants to believe the story about AIDs, but unfortunately it will be proven true. It makes the situation all the more heartbreaking because he didn't have to die. Multiple stories suggest it was his close religious friends that convinced him to go off his medication and that he had been cured by God. Unless things had changed, Larry was his biggest spiritural influence in JW.

As for any arguement that it was against the JW religion to take the medication - that just isn't true at all. If it were, Prince would have never taken the percocet.

This is all just so horrible and tragically preventable.

But we will never know what trouble Prince would have gotten into if he had never met Larry Graham. For all we know, he came into Prince´s life during a very dark phase, so maybe meeting him was good for Prince.

From a fan´s perspective, as far as influence on his music goes, I have been skeptical of Larry since day one but, on a personal level, I don´t know him and he´s probably a very nice person, so I´d be careful with such accusations because if Larry was indeed a good influence on him as a human being, then judging Larry just because we don´t like him would be a very mean thing.

You might be right, but...we don´t really know, do we?