OldFriends4Sale said:

feeluupp said:

actually the funny thing, is when you can have ONE SONG and compare it to a WHOLE ALBUM... it shows you not only the energy but the power that song actually has.

yes ATIWAD is a GREAT PRINCE ALBUM! yes there are beautiful songs like Condition of the Heart, and pop classis like Raspberry Beret... but there is something about SHE'S ALWAYS IN MY HAIR imho that overshadows the whole album.

especially on the extende 12" mix when he's begging and screams almost like it's in vain... that right there in my opinion ofcourse brings more energy than the whole album, or whatever song Temptation, etc...

She's Always In My Hair had a different feel to it, wow. i absolutely love She's Always In My Hair.

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who is Alex again?

George Clinton loved the album... So did Joni Mitchell
I think that says way more.

She's Always In My Hair is not disconnected to the album. It is 100% a part of the project. Just like Erotic City, God, 17 Days, Another Lonely Christmas are a part of Purple Rain.

She's Always In My Hair feels like anothe song from ATWIAD the vibe is very similar, the finger cymbals the quirky guitar playing etc it's all on the ATWIAD album
If the song overshadows the album why does Rasperry Beret & Pop Life still get airplay?

She's Always In My Hair was recorded the same day as Erotic City in 1983.

Oldfriends... thanks,

wow those quotes above are really great to read...

OldFriends4Sale said:

What picture were you painting with 'Around the World in a Day'?

[Laughs] I've heard some people say that I'm not talking about anything on this record. And what a lot of other people get wrong about the record is that I'm not trying to be this great visionary wizard. Paisley Park is in everybody's heart. It's not just something that I have the keys to. I was trying to say something about looking inside oneself to find perfection. Perfection is in everyone. Nobody's perfect, but they can be. We may never reach that, but it's better to strive than not.

Does it bother you when people say you're going back in time with 'Around the World in a Day'?

No. What they say is that the Beatles are the influence. The influence wasn't the Beatles. They were great for what they did, but I don't know how that would hang today. The cover art came about because I thought people were tired of looking at me. Who wants another picture of him? I would only want so many pictures of my woman, then I would want the real thing. What would be a little more happening than just another picture [laughs] would be if there was some way I could materialize in people's cribs when they play the record.

How do you feel about people calling the record "psychedelic"?

I don't mind that, because that was the only period in recent history that delivered songs and colors. Led Zeppelin, for example, would make you feel differently on each song.

Does you fame affect your work?

A lot of people think it does, but it doesn't at all. I think the smartest thing I ever did was record Around the World in a Day right after I finished Purple Rain. I didn't wait to see what would happen with Purple Rain. That's why the two albums sound completely different. People think, "Oh, the new album isn't half as powerful as Purple Rain or 1999." You know how easy it would have been to open Around the World in a Day with the guitar solo that's on the end of "Let's Go Crazy"? You know how easy it would have been to just put it in a different key? That would have shut everybody up who said an album wasn't half as powerful. I don't want to make an album like the earlier ones. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to put your albums back to back and not get bored, you dig? I don't know how many people can play all their albums back to back with each one going to different cities.

I mean this is really great.. thank you, OF4S..

feeluupp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

who is Alex again?

George Clinton loved the album... So did Joni Mitchell
I think that says way more.

She's Always In My Hair is not disconnected to the album. It is 100% a part of the project. Just like Erotic City, God, 17 Days, Another Lonely Christmas are a part of Purple Rain.

She's Always In My Hair feels like anothe song from ATWIAD the vibe is very similar, the finger cymbals the quirky guitar playing etc it's all on the ATWIAD album
If the song overshadows the album why does Rasperry Beret & Pop Life still get airplay?

She's Always In My Hair was recorded the same day as Erotic City in 1983.

I always felt that if there were going to be remasters with the b-sides as the bonus tracks, "She's Always In My Hair" could / should be included with Purple Rain.

feeluupp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

who is Alex again?

George Clinton loved the album... So did Joni Mitchell
I think that says way more.

She's Always In My Hair is not disconnected to the album. It is 100% a part of the project. Just like Erotic City, God, 17 Days, Another Lonely Christmas are a part of Purple Rain.

She's Always In My Hair feels like anothe song from ATWIAD the vibe is very similar, the finger cymbals the quirky guitar playing etc it's all on the ATWIAD album
If the song overshadows the album why does Rasperry Beret & Pop Life still get airplay?

She's Always In My Hair was recorded the same day as Erotic City in 1983.

Initial tracking took place on 30 December 1983, it was completed.

A lot of ATWIAD was recorded during the Purple Rain tour
So the feel is there. ATWIAD is more tied to PR. A lot of people connect it with Parade, but the albums are nothing alike.

novabrkr said:

feeluupp said:

She's Always In My Hair was recorded the same day as Erotic City in 1983.

I always felt that if there were going to be remasters with the b-sides as the bonus tracks, "She's Always In My Hair" could / should be included with Purple Rain.

listen 2 that 'twang' guitar sound, the finger cymbals etc those sounds are tied to Around the World in a Day
Someone reminded me/us in a different thread that Irresistable Bitch fits with Purple Rain. I didn't get it at the time, but the song was made when they started recording Purple Rain music in 1983. I listened again and again and I could hear 1999 as well as a different feel connected to PR music.
The early studio demo has the sounds of 1999, the released take has more of the sounds of Purple Rain.
I think the same goes for She's Always In My Hair.

thedance said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

What picture were you painting with 'Around the World in a Day'?

[Laughs] I've heard some people say that I'm not talking about anything on this record. And what a lot of other people get wrong about the record is that I'm not trying to be this great visionary wizard. Paisley Park is in everybody's heart. It's not just something that I have the keys to. I was trying to say something about looking inside oneself to find perfection. Perfection is in everyone. Nobody's perfect, but they can be. We may never reach that, but it's better to strive than not.

Does it bother you when people say you're going back in time with 'Around the World in a Day'?

No. What they say is that the Beatles are the influence. The influence wasn't the Beatles. They were great for what they did, but I don't know how that would hang today. The cover art came about because I thought people were tired of looking at me. Who wants another picture of him? I would only want so many pictures of my woman, then I would want the real thing. What would be a little more happening than just another picture [laughs] would be if there was some way I could materialize in people's cribs when they play the record.

How do you feel about people calling the record "psychedelic"?

I don't mind that, because that was the only period in recent history that delivered songs and colors. Led Zeppelin, for example, would make you feel differently on each song.

Does you fame affect your work?

A lot of people think it does, but it doesn't at all. I think the smartest thing I ever did was record Around the World in a Day right after I finished Purple Rain. I didn't wait to see what would happen with Purple Rain. That's why the two albums sound completely different. People think, "Oh, the new album isn't half as powerful as Purple Rain or 1999." You know how easy it would have been to open Around the World in a Day with the guitar solo that's on the end of "Let's Go Crazy"? You know how easy it would have been to just put it in a different key? That would have shut everybody up who said an album wasn't half as powerful. I don't want to make an album like the earlier ones. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to put your albums back to back and not get bored, you dig? I don't know how many people can play all their albums back to back with each one going to different cities.

I mean this is really great.. thank you, OF4S..

1985/86 gave some his best/my favorite interviews followed by 1997/98

Everyone who has issues with ATWIAD needs to read these to understand Prince's vision

TrevorAyer said:

This record would play better in a different sequence ... Namely the opening and closing songs are not up to par ... Otherwise i feel this album and period should have its own tour ... In fact it would be great if p embraced the tour an old album trend so that we could hear this period in full live ... I think the songs are solid enough that a tour would have brought it closer to pr sales .. The parade tour was good and all but by then, too many hits to cram in plus parade tunes marked the beginning of the end of his live act creating a mood ... Sure he returned to era focus for sott and maybe rainbow but every thing else has been a hits show .... Just imagine an acoustic flavored psychedilic tour with the rev like Hello Paisley park Shes always in my hair Condition of the heart Tamborine Pop life 4 the tears in your eyes The ladder Temptation The screams of passion A love bizarre Manic monday America Mutiny Raspberry beret Nothing compares 2u Now that is a live set p will never have the balls to play

I like when people share playlists. I'm going to set this up to see how it sounds.

I love making playlists of different album eras

It's a good way to get someone to hear an album.

This would be a hot tour setlist

Around the World in a Day

All the Critics Love U in New York

Manic Monday
Raspberry Beret

Condition of the Heart
Strange Relationship (preview)
Sexuality
Tamborine

Girl

God(the Dance Electric)

the Ladder(with a feel of Free guitar solo kicks in) leading us into

Computer Blue

Temptation
Feline(the rock rehearsal rendition)
She's Always In My Hair

Paisley Park(extended) with the guitar solo opening

America

Hello

Dance Electric

Pop Life
HollyRock/Baby I'm a Star or Dance Electric in this place

OldFriends4Sale said:

novabrkr said:

I always felt that if there were going to be remasters with the b-sides as the bonus tracks, "She's Always In My Hair" could / should be included with Purple Rain.

listen 2 that 'twang' guitar sound, the finger cymbals etc those sounds are tied to Around the World in a Day
Someone reminded me/us in a different thread that Irresistable Bitch fits with Purple Rain. I didn't get it at the time, but the song was made when they started recording Purple Rain music in 1983. I listened again and again and I could hear 1999 as well as a different feel connected to PR music.
The early studio demo has the sounds of 1999, the released take has more of the sounds of Purple Rain.
I think the same goes for She's Always In My Hair.

I've always thought it would belong more on PR than ATWIAD. Some similarities in sounds to 17 Days.

.

But as you say OF4S - these albums are intertwined but at the same time different.

I used to really like Temptation. I really think it is a silly song, mostly ear cancer. Except for maybe Lemon Crush it is hard on the ears. The whole God's Voice talking is super lame. He's actually mocking God not giving him dap. His over-the-top screaming is insane. I like his screams, but only when it comes naturally and it is sincere. Here he just does it as shtick. The crazy guitar and all is just so warped. It is a silly song.

Tamborine is so so too. America I have made peace with. Think it is a very good song. Raspberry Beret, Pop Life and Condition Of The Heart are straight up masterpieces. Godly even.

dodger said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

listen 2 that 'twang' guitar sound, the finger cymbals etc those sounds are tied to Around the World in a Day
Someone reminded me/us in a different thread that Irresistable Bitch fits with Purple Rain. I didn't get it at the time, but the song was made when they started recording Purple Rain music in 1983. I listened again and again and I could hear 1999 as well as a different feel connected to PR music.
The early studio demo has the sounds of 1999, the released take has more of the sounds of Purple Rain.
I think the same goes for She's Always In My Hair.

I've always thought it would belong more on PR than ATWIAD. Some similarities in sounds to 17 Days.

.

But as you say OF4S - these albums are intertwined but at the same time different.

I've been saying that for ages, before all of you were born, and that's a mighty long time. It sounds more from the PR era.

2freaky4church1 said:

I used to really like Temptation. I really think it is a silly song, mostly ear cancer. Except for maybe Lemon Crush it is hard on the ears. The whole God's Voice talking is super lame. He's actually mocking God not giving him dap. His over-the-top screaming is insane. I like his screams, but only when it comes naturally and it is sincere. Here he just does it as shtick. The crazy guitar and all is just so warped. It is a silly song.

Tamborine is so so too. America I have made peace with. Think it is a very good song. Raspberry Beret, Pop Life and Condition Of The Heart are straight up masterpieces. Godly even.

God instrumental version is great, the vocal version, not so much.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Does you fame affect your work?

A lot of people think it does, but it doesn't at all. I think the smartest thing I ever did was record Around the World in a Day right after I finished Purple Rain. I didn't wait to see what would happen with Purple Rain. That's why the two albums sound completely different. People think, "Oh, the new album isn't half as powerful as Purple Rain or 1999." You know how easy it would have been to open Around the World in a Day with the guitar solo that's on the end of "Let's Go Crazy"? You know how easy it would have been to just put it in a different key? That would have shut everybody up who said an album wasn't half as powerful. I don't want to make an album like the earlier ones. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to put your albums back to back and not get bored, you dig? I don't know how many people can play all their albums back to back with each one going to different cities.

I fucking love this.

214 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I used to really like Temptation. I really think it is a silly song, mostly ear cancer. Except for maybe Lemon Crush it is hard on the ears. The whole God's Voice talking is super lame. He's actually mocking God not giving him dap. His over-the-top screaming is insane. I like his screams, but only when it comes naturally and it is sincere. Here he just does it as shtick. The crazy guitar and all is just so warped. It is a silly song.

Tamborine is so so too. America I have made peace with. Think it is a very good song. Raspberry Beret, Pop Life and Condition Of The Heart are straight up masterpieces. Godly even.

God instrumental version is great, the vocal version, not so much.

I love the vocal version as well

The way he sings the the meat of the song is powerful and chilling

Ive always been a huge Prince Fan. Going all the way back to 1982, when it still wasnt cool to be a Prince fan. I was suck a huge Prince fan that people called me " Prince". I say all this to say this: When Prince release around the world in a day, that was the FIRST calculated move he made that was WRONG.

Prince has ALWAYS derailed his own career, started with that album. Thats why for all the negative things said about Warner Brothers, the fact that they were RIGHT, Prince should have never oversaturated the market with confusing product at the rapid rate he did. The idea to use his alter ego bands to release material was a genius decision, but releasing that type of material under his own brand, particularly as the next album after Purple Rain, alienated the casual fan and it took Prince years to bounce back from it. In fact, it took the album Sign of the Times, to make people forget what he had done to his career.

"alienated the casual fan"....that may be true, and it's a good point... but P even said it himself...He knew when he looked out in the audience (during the "P.R" tour) there were a lot of people and faces he had never seen before..and he knew he would never see them again. He probably believed that these "new faces" were waiting on "P.R. Part 2"....I think he released "A.T.W.I.A.D" quickly because he didn't want to be forever characterized as "The brooding Kid who plays Hendrix style rock guitar while riding a purple motorcycle" to them...He gave the casuals a challenge. I think he did the right thing.

None of the casuals I knew were even really aware of ATWIAD - they just enjoyed Raspberry Beret and got on with their lives. Ditto Parade/Kiss.

This makes me wonder if a lot of that fly-by-night Purple Rain crowd was there not because they loved the album, but because they'd seen Prince in a movie. If that's the case, then it was probably the critical drubbing of Under the Cherry Moon that killed the casuals the most...

Yes..I would think that some of the "fly by nights" came out in droves because of the film. All of the "fly-by-nights" that I knew (that called him homophobic/racist names) in 82/83 were saying (after seeing the movie/concert-hearing the record) said he was "great, awesome, cool", etc. By 85 (especially after that weird MTV interview) the name calling started again and he was history to them.

It boggles my mind that people were turning their noses up to Prince in what we all now refer to as his 'heyday'... if only we could have shown 'em what pop music was gonna sound like in 2016!

moorman said:

Ive always been a huge Prince Fan. Going all the way back to 1982, when it still wasnt cool to be a Prince fan. I was suck a huge Prince fan that people called me " Prince". I say all this to say this: When Prince release around the world in a day, that was the FIRST calculated move he made that was WRONG.

Prince has ALWAYS derailed his own career, started with that album. Thats why for all the negative things said about Warner Brothers, the fact that they were RIGHT, Prince should have never oversaturated the market with confusing product at the rapid rate he did. The idea to use his alter ego bands to release material was a genius decision, but releasing that type of material under his own brand, particularly as the next album after Purple Rain, alienated the casual fan and it took Prince years to bounce back from it. In fact, it took the album Sign of the Times, to make people forget what he had done to his career.

I think any derailing came with no promo of the Album, it had to be promoted. Real videos like Raspberry Beret, live performances. Even on the 6.5.1985 birthday show he did nothing from the album.

I don't think SOTT did that either. Prince was not promoting himself well even with SOTT.
Kiss and Girls & Boys A Love Bizarre was on the music scene in 1986, but again, if he did the movie UTCM like Purple Rain with band scenes and a real director 1986 could have been just as huge.

eyewishuheaven said:

None of the casuals I knew were even really aware of ATWIAD - they just enjoyed Raspberry Beret and got on with their lives. Ditto Parade/Kiss.

This makes me wonder if a lot of that fly-by-night Purple Rain crowd was there not because they loved the album, but because they'd seen Prince in a movie. If that's the case, then it was probably the critical drubbing of Under the Cherry Moon that killed the casuals the most...

I have to admit that there were a lot of casuals or people whose attention was peaked by Purple Rain who became solid fans as a result as well. I knew a lot of people including my younger brother who became a fan as a result and fell in love with Around the World in a Day. The album art tackled him. Which is a part of promotion. The album should have been promoted.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I have to admit that there were a lot of casuals or people whose attention was peaked by Purple Rain who became solid fans as a result as well. I knew a lot of people including my younger brother who became a fan as a result and fell in love with Around the World in a Day. The album art tackled him. Which is a part of promotion. The album should have been promoted.

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Yeah! In fact, my sister, who was 11 or 12 in 1984, and myself who was 8, listened to it all the time and I became a lifelong Prince fan (although my sister was a 'fly-by', and soon went back to Duran Duran and whatnot).

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About the promotion thing: Mainstream rock was already very corporate in the 80s, but isn't it great how Prince went against the grain in nearly every career move he made to and from the top? It's inconceivable nowadays that an artist would have a mega-smash like Purple Rain and then rush-release another studio album before most fans were even aware the previous tour was over. Today, you'd be forced to wait three or four years before the next mass-marketing campaign for the follow-up album, etc.

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Anyway, of course if we're looking at it from the perspective of Prince's long-term commercial profile in mainstream music, he *should have* waited longer to issue the next album, he should have toured the US more in the latter-80s, he shouldn't have issued tracks like 'Mountains' and 'If I Was Your Girlfriend' as singles, etc., he shouldn't have thought he was Fellini and made 'Under the Cherry Moon' and 'Graffitti Bridge', etc., etc. But he wouldn't be Prince if he'd done that!

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ThePanther said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I have to admit that there were a lot of casuals or people whose attention was peaked by Purple Rain who became solid fans as a result as well. I knew a lot of people including my younger brother who became a fan as a result and fell in love with Around the World in a Day. The album art tackled him. Which is a part of promotion. The album should have been promoted.

.

Yeah! In fact, my sister, who was 11 or 12 in 1984, and myself who was 8, listened to it all the time and I became a lifelong Prince fan (although my sister was a 'fly-by', and soon went back to Duran Duran and whatnot).

.

About the promotion thing: Mainstream rock was already very corporate in the 80s, but isn't it great how Prince went against the grain in nearly every career move he made to and from the top? It's inconceivable nowadays that an artist would have a mega-smash like Purple Rain and then rush-release another studio album before most fans were even aware the previous tour was over. Today, you'd be forced to wait three or four years before the next mass-marketing campaign for the follow-up album, etc.

.

Anyway, of course if we're looking at it from the perspective of Prince's long-term commercial profile in mainstream music, he *should have* waited longer to issue the next album, he should have toured the US more in the latter-80s, he shouldn't have issued tracks like 'Mountains' and 'If I Was Your Girlfriend' as singles, etc., he shouldn't have thought he was Fellini and made 'Under the Cherry Moon' and 'Graffitti Bridge', etc., etc. But he wouldn't be Prince if he'd done that!

[Edited 4/7/16 19:22pm]

I know in some ways it wasn't a good thing, But I loved how he release an album a year + the proteges. I will never complain about the 80s output except that I wish we had more lol

I don't think he should have waited longer. I say he should have promoted.

I say he should have released Kiss Mountains Girls & Boys AnotherLover... Sometimes It Snows In April Old Friends 4 Sale (we only received 2 B side singles in 1986) we were cheated lol

He should have made Under the Cherry Moon, he just should not have directed it and should have included the bands -the PR flowchart worked
Graffiti Bridge weew he lost me ... 'thatnumbwhyamIwatchingpornafterIcameandhavenolustleft' feeling

Solid album. Not really something to go crazy over. "Raspberry Beret" is the best song, closely followed by "Paisley Park" and then there's a few other cool tracks, but not much else

All this time, the Purple Rain Tour was coming to a climax and Prince was finishing work on the much anticipated follow-up, AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY. While revisionist history has cast the eccentric album as one of his least successful endeavors, the reality is that it sold in excess of three million units and spent three weeks as the No. 1 record in the country – no mean accomplishment, particularly since it shipped without a single to lead the way.

-Alan Leeds

Lol........Temptation was my fav joint on the project.

love2thenines2003 said:

This album is perfect album 4 me....and Temptation is his most underated trax ever from his repertoire !

Agree! I love Temptation ... and Tamborine. Prince is the most interesting, when he does it differently.