warning2all said:

feeluupp said:

... Since he publically resigned with WB back in 2014.

Wrong. Prince isn't an act signed to any label. He has a specific deal with WB for "Purple Rain Remaster" and future remaster. WB agreed to release AOA & PLEL as well, but he isn't in the stable of WB artists- he's a free man to take his new projects wherever he wants.

Then why did he state in his twitter posts that WB passed up on PHASE 2?

feeluupp said:

warning2all said:

feeluupp said:

Then why did he state in his twitter posts that WB passed up on PHASE 2?

You may have missed the earlier comments that he offered "Phase 2" to WB as an "olive branch". WB doesn't have first right of refusal on future projects; it was offered. "Olive Branch" because the Remaster project partnership & promotion of AOA/Plel soured.

warning2all said:

feeluupp said:

Then why did he state in his twitter posts that WB passed up on PHASE 2?

You may have missed the earlier comments that he offered "Phase 2" to WB as an "olive branch". WB doesn't have first right of refusal on future projects; it was offered. "Olive Branch" because the Remaster project partnership & promotion of AOA/Plel soured.

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So there's still some sort of (slow) negotiation going on?

udo said:

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said:

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So there's still some sort of (slow) negotiation going on?

@warnin2all. ....I wonder.....this is inside source u shared or speculations on ur own? Thanx

He's speculating his ass off! Prince SIGNED back with Warner Bros! That's why Prince repeatedly tries to go through them! I don't know where that person is getting his info, because it was publicly announced Prince signed BACK with Warner Bros! The problem is that Prince is an flop artist now. The quality of his new releases has been complete shit, which is why they only sale about 7,000 - 10, 000 copies worldwide! That's less than what an amatuer garage band would sale! That's why WB refuses to release anything by Prince now, because it's just not profitable. Prince had alienated his once enormous fanbase (by sueing his fans at concerts, internet, magazines, including this website, also repeatedly cancelling projects), and he alienated future fans by banning his work from the internet. Prince also can't sign with any other major record labels, because he don't honor contracts he signs, even though he took the money! Prince painted himself in this corner. He only has live shows as an source of income, because his days of selling music by compact discs are over. The Artist Formally Known as Successful.

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Scarfo said:

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said: @warnin2all. ....I wonder.....this is inside source u shared or speculations on ur own? Thanx

He's speculating his ass off! Prince SIGNED back with Warner Bros! That's why Prince repeatedly tries to go through them! I don't know where that person is getting his info, because it was publicly announced Prince signed BACK with Warner Bros! The problem is that Prince is an flop artist now. The quality of his new releases has been complete shit, which is why they only sale about 7,000 - 10, 000 copies worldwide! That's less than what an amatuer garage band would sale! That's why WB refuses to release anything by Prince now, because it's just not profitable. Prince had alienated his once enormous fanbase (by sueing his fans at concerts, internet, magazines, including this website, also repeatedly cancelling projects), and he alienated future fans by banning his work from the internet. Prince also can't sign with any other major record labels, because he don't honor contracts he signs, even though he took the money! Prince painted himself in this corner. He only has live shows as an source of income, because his days of selling music by compact discs are over. The Artist Formally Known as Successful.

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EXACTLY.

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said:

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So there's still some sort of (slow) negotiation going on?

@warnin2all. ....I wonder.....this is inside source u shared or speculations on ur own? Thanx

Just a simple conslusion from what I read.

Every new album could persuade WB if the album(s) are great enough.

udo said:

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said: @warnin2all. ....I wonder.....this is inside source u shared or speculations on ur own? Thanx

Just a simple conslusion from what I read.

Every new album could persuade WB if the album(s) are great enough.

... and when ur selling less than 10,000 copies an album... it's an indicator that WB isn't interested, hince why they didn't release PHASE 1 or PHASE 2, yet...

Scarfo said:

love2thenines2003 said:

udo said: @warnin2all. ....I wonder.....this is inside source u shared or speculations on ur own? Thanx

He's speculating his ass off! Prince SIGNED back with Warner Bros! That's why Prince repeatedly tries to go through them! I don't know where that person is getting his info, because it was publicly announced Prince signed BACK with Warner Bros! The problem is that Prince is an flop artist now. The quality of his new releases has been complete shit, which is why they only sale about 7,000 - 10, 000 copies worldwide! That's less than what an amatuer garage band would sale! That's why WB refuses to release anything by Prince now, because it's just not profitable. Prince had alienated his once enormous fanbase (by sueing his fans at concerts, internet, magazines, including this website, also repeatedly cancelling projects), and he alienated future fans by banning his work from the internet. Prince also can't sign with any other major record labels, because he don't honor contracts he signs, even though he took the money! Prince painted himself in this corner. He only has live shows as an source of income, because his days of selling music by compact discs are over. The Artist Formally Known as Successful.

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And so are you

paulludvig said:

Scarfo said:

He's speculating his ass off! Prince SIGNED back with Warner Bros! That's why Prince repeatedly tries to go through them! I don't know where that person is getting his info, because it was publicly announced Prince signed BACK with Warner Bros! The problem is that Prince is an flop artist now. The quality of his new releases has been complete shit, which is why they only sale about 7,000 - 10, 000 copies worldwide! That's less than what an amatuer garage band would sale! That's why WB refuses to release anything by Prince now, because it's just not profitable. Prince had alienated his once enormous fanbase (by sueing his fans at concerts, internet, magazines, including this website, also repeatedly cancelling projects), and he alienated future fans by banning his work from the internet. Prince also can't sign with any other major record labels, because he don't honor contracts he signs, even though he took the money! Prince painted himself in this corner. He only has live shows as an source of income, because his days of selling music by compact discs are over. The Artist Formally Known as Successful.

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And so are you

It's not a fact that Prince resigned with WB in 2014 to get his masters back?

It's not a fact that WB didn't release PHASE 1?

It's not a fact that PHASE 1 sold under 10,000 copies?

It's not a fact that PRINCE has sued his fans, fansites and has limited visibiality in the internet without a copyright complaint from NPG records?

It's not a fact that PRINCE tweeted WB passed up on distributing PHASE 2 and PURPLE RAIN REMASTER??

feeluupp said:

paulludvig said:

And so are you

It's not a fact that Prince resigned with WB in 2014 to get his masters back?

It's not a fact that WB didn't release PHASE 1?

It's not a fact that PHASE 1 sold under 10,000 copies?

It's not a fact that PRINCE has sued his fans, fansites and has limited visibiality in the internet without a copyright complaint from NPG records?

It's not a fact that PRINCE tweeted WB passed up on distributing PHASE 2 and PURPLE RAIN REMASTER??

This is not a fact. Or what do you mean by resigned?

paulludvig said:

feeluupp said:

It's not a fact that Prince resigned with WB in 2014 to get his masters back?

It's not a fact that WB didn't release PHASE 1?

It's not a fact that PHASE 1 sold under 10,000 copies?

It's not a fact that PRINCE has sued his fans, fansites and has limited visibiality in the internet without a copyright complaint from NPG records?

It's not a fact that PRINCE tweeted WB passed up on distributing PHASE 2 and PURPLE RAIN REMASTER??

This is not a fact. Or what do you mean by resigned?

Yes it is indeed a FACT that he RESIGNED TO WB in 2014 to regain his masters back.

As publically stated in 2014:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6062423/prince-deal-with-warner-bros-new-album-coming

feeluupp said:

paulludvig said:

This is not a fact. Or what do you mean by resigned?

Yes it is indeed a FACT that he RESIGNED TO WB in 2014 to regain his masters back.

As publically stated in 2014:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6062423/prince-deal-with-warner-bros-new-album-coming

Are you referring to the licensing agreement?

paulludvig said:

feeluupp said:

udo said:

Just a simple conslusion from what I read.

Every new album could persuade WB if the album(s) are great enough.

... and when ur selling less than 10,000 copies an album... it's an indicator that WB isn't interested, hince why they didn't release PHASE 1 or PHASE 2, yet...

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If we assume that greatness correlates to a certain degree with sales....

Then greatness could persuade WB.

udo said:

feeluupp said:

... and when ur selling less than 10,000 copies an album... it's an indicator that WB isn't interested, hince why they didn't release PHASE 1 or PHASE 2, yet...

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If we assume that greatness correlates to a certain degree with sales....

Then greatness could persuade WB.

... It's the classic FAM response, when Prince fails to sell they automatically get into defensive mode and says greatness doesnt correlate to sales...

No one said it did.... But in all honesty, if sales correlates with the greatness of PHASE 1... I'd have to agree.

PurpleMedley122 said:

paulludvig said:

And so are you

The mind of a Prince fam is quite interesting. Please point out where in his statement that he is wrong. Prince isn't a flop artist? Prince didn't sue his fanbase? Prince HIMSELF didn't tweet out that WB had HNR in their possession and aren't releasing it? Seriously...

I'm thinking about the first statement.

feeluupp said:

udo said:

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If we assume that greatness correlates to a certain degree with sales....

Then greatness could persuade WB.

... It's the classic FAM response, when Prince fails to sell they automatically get into defensive mode and says greatness doesnt correlate to sales...

No one said it did.... But in all honesty, if sales correlates with the greatness of PHASE 1... I'd have to agree.

So what do YOU think? Does greatness correlate to sales?

paulludvig said:

feeluupp said:

... It's the classic FAM response, when Prince fails to sell they automatically get into defensive mode and says greatness doesnt correlate to sales...

No one said it did.... But in all honesty, if sales correlates with the greatness of PHASE 1... I'd have to agree.

So what do YOU think? Does greatness correlate to sales?

... Not PHASE 1, that's for sure.

feeluupp said:

paulludvig said:

So what do YOU think? Does greatness correlate to sales?

... Not PHASE 1, that's for sure.

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So you assume Phase 1 was great....

udo said:

feeluupp said:

... Not PHASE 1, that's for sure.

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So you assume Phase 1 was great....

Yes so great... It's better than SOTT... Thank GOD the public heard it with 10,000 sales.

udo said:

feeluupp said:

... Not PHASE 1, that's for sure.

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So you assume Phase 1 was great....

But anyway - he didn't sign back to WB in the traditional sense. He signed a licensing agreement. That's different.

paulludvig said:

But anyway - he didn't sign back to WB in the traditional sense. He signed a licensing agreement. That's different.

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Please explain how the Prince man can actually make use of that licensing agreement?

udo said:

paulludvig said:

But anyway - he didn't sign back to WB in the traditional sense. He signed a licensing agreement. That's different.

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Please explain how the Prince man can actually make use of that licensing agreement?

Make use?

paulludvig said:

udo said:

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Please explain how the Prince man can actually make use of that licensing agreement?

Make use?

... I mean the PURPLE RAIN REMASTER couldn't even get licensed for a re issue...

feeluupp said:

paulludvig said:

Make use?

... I mean the PURPLE RAIN REMASTER couldn't even get licensed for a re issue...

?

paulludvig said:

feeluupp said:

... I mean the PURPLE RAIN REMASTER couldn't even get licensed for a re issue...

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... He signed a licensing agreement.

... which one of the stipulations was an agreement to re release the PURPLE RAIN album with remasters and reissues?? ... it never happened...

according to PRINCE we should "pickett WB to release it..."

So PRINCE posted a pic of the PHASE 2 CD and case on his TWITTER stuck in the snow...

He plans selling PHASE 2 first to the people who are attending to the PIANO & A MICROPHONE gala at PAISLEY PARK... But I hope that means we will get the physical release soon... Before we see it going for absurd prices on eBAY.