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Thread started 08/12/15 6:44am

kmint

Plectrum Electrum

Here's the breakdown,
Poor sales, weak reviews aside, an album is a hit to me if it contains a few great songs. Wow and Tic Tac Toe are both smash hits deserving a place on the charts. Not to mention a few other great tunes, like Funknroll.

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Reply #1 posted 08/12/15 6:47am

TheEnglishGent

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You can't put poor sales to the side, that's what makes an album number 1 or not! Sales don't impact whether or not you like the album, or if you think it's good. But for number one in the charts, that's all that counts.

You seem to have the same definition of a hit that Prince does wink

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Reply #2 posted 08/12/15 7:38am

thedance

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Plectrum is the worst album since Kamasutra..

But I agree it includes 2 good songs in Wov and Anotherlove.

The rest is just garbage.

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Reply #3 posted 08/12/15 9:12am

Zannaloaf

My kid and one of his freinds who are both musicains really like most of AOA but criticized Plectrum Electrum. Their complaint was thet Prince wateed it down and should have let the band do it themselves. They boh had heard Donna Grantis solo and think she holds back in this band. Just an interesting observation. I personally felt both albums had soem good playing but were uninspited except a few tracks. Time for a producer with some outsider ears.

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Reply #4 posted 08/12/15 9:18am

MIRvmn

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Plectrum wasn't the rock album I was hoping for, It was a huge letdown. I thought it would at least be similar to C&D before it was released but it wasn't. A live album with 3EG would have been much better since I don't think they work very well in the studio.
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Reply #5 posted 08/12/15 9:21am

feeluupp

Anotherlove is one of Prince's best songs in years... Even if it's a cover...

Amongst Anotherlove, Sticky Like Glue, and Dreamer are in my opinion his best 3 songs he's recorded since 2009.

Plectrum Electrum isn't good... It's just so bland... Not a good album at all.

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Reply #6 posted 08/12/15 9:21am

cbarnes3121

I really thought when he first started promoting 3rd eye blind that they were gonna be a stand alone band without him then he started dropping npg for this hot mess and my interest has been. Zero
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Reply #7 posted 08/12/15 9:39am

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kmint said:

Here's the breakdown, Poor sales, weak reviews aside, an album is a hit to me if it contains a few great songs. Wow and Tic Tac Toe are both smash hits deserving a place on the charts. Not to mention a few other great tunes, like Funknroll.


Please post link showing its #1 status

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Reply #8 posted 08/12/15 9:43am

feeluupp

luv4u said:

kmint said:

Here's the breakdown, Poor sales, weak reviews aside, an album is a hit to me if it contains a few great songs. Wow and Tic Tac Toe are both smash hits deserving a place on the charts. Not to mention a few other great tunes, like Funknroll.


Please post link showing its #1 status

It never went #1. It debuted #8 on the Billboard 200 selling a dismal 26,000 copies in the first week, and the second week it dropped to #47 selling only 7,000 copies. By the third week it was completely off the Billboard Top 200 chart making it Prince's lowest selling album in the U.S. right behind N.E.W.S. With a total amount of 33,000 copies sold.

No hit at all... Very poor commercial album...

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Reply #9 posted 08/12/15 9:58am

feeluupp

Actually based on sales figures alone... Can even be retitled to... Prince's lowest selling album since 2003.

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Reply #10 posted 08/12/15 10:38am

Gohi

It's pure crap, aside from "WOW."

"AINTTURNINROUND" is probably my least favorite Prince tune ever.

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Reply #11 posted 08/12/15 10:41am

feeluupp

Gohi said:

It's pure crap, aside from "WOW."

"AINTTURNINROUND" is probably my least favorite Prince tune ever.

My personal opinion for best and worst track on the album are:

BEST: ANOTHERLOVE

WORST: BOY TROUBLE

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Reply #12 posted 08/12/15 11:25am

ludwig

I like Tictactoe.

The album is much better than the godawul AOA.

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Reply #13 posted 08/12/15 11:37am

IstenSzek

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i dislike it smile but somehow, whenever "stopthistrain" comes up on shuffle, i really like it smile
i just don't want it anywhere near a prince album even if it's 3EG and Prince.

Tic Tac Toe and Anotherlove are great. I could take or leave the rest. which is weird as i
tend to like almost everything he does smile

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #14 posted 08/12/15 12:59pm

SignOthetimes1
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Boytrouble.....cringe.

it's too uneven and plain corny

to be a real rock album.

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Reply #15 posted 08/12/15 1:01pm

KingSausage

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How is this a real thread? STOPTHISBULLSHIT
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Reply #16 posted 08/12/15 2:26pm

BobGeorge909

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The song PlectrumElectrum is alright...though according to some its a bit of a copycat. I was really hoping it could been a video-album. The vid of the title track was cool and showed that it was recorded live and whatnot. They should have picked ten or so trax along those lines and made a video-album. Instead...all of these bullshit trax ended up on there along with the petulant vox in fixurlifeup.

It's sad that that was the album that was made if there were DAYS of recorded material as the band mates were saying.
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Reply #17 posted 08/12/15 2:54pm

RJOrion

other than the title song (PlectrumElectrum), Anotherlove, and Whitecaps, i cant listen to that album....it doesnt suck....but, theres just nothing else there compelling enough to go back to

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Reply #18 posted 08/12/15 4:22pm

rgt17

Would have been better had Screwdriver had been included
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Reply #19 posted 08/12/15 6:26pm

KingSausage

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I actually listened to plectrumrectum today it's fucking terrible.
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Reply #20 posted 08/12/15 8:07pm

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KingSausage said:

I actually listened to plectrumrectum today it's fucking terrible.


This album has a great warm sound that I would say is missing in a lot of Prince's music - first heard on TRC. But the sound is ruined by the songs. There are three songs on this thing that I find worth keeping -
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1. Another Love
2. Plectrum Electrum
2. Funknroll
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I don't even agree with most who put "Wow" on their list.
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Just a giant, droning piece of garbage otherwise. Tic Tac Toe and Ain't Turnin Round have to be all-time lows.
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Reply #21 posted 08/12/15 8:20pm

lezama

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This is in my top ten Prince albums ever. I like every track on it. I like most everything on AOA and AOA's highs are better than PE's but as an entire unit for me PE comes out on top. I even like it better (as a whole) than Lotus.. as in, I can listen to PE without skipping a thing, while I'll always skip Love Like Jazz on Lotus. But the best of Lotus is still better than the best on PE to me.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #22 posted 08/12/15 9:27pm

feeluupp

lezama said:

This is in my top ten Prince albums ever. I like every track on it. I like most everything on AOA and AOA's highs are better than PE's but as an entire unit for me PE comes out on top. I even like it better (as a whole) than Lotus.. as in, I can listen to PE without skipping a thing, while I'll always skip Love Like Jazz on Lotus. But the best of Lotus is still better than the best on PE to me.

In no order...

Purple Rain

Dirty Mind

Controversy

Sign O The Times

Parade

Around The World In A Day

Lovesexy

1999

Batman

Graffiti Bridge

.... Sorry Plectrum has no room in my TOP TEN lol

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Reply #23 posted 08/13/15 12:26am

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feeluupp said:

.... Sorry Plectrum has no room in my TOP TEN lol

^ here, imo:

Prince albums,

from best album to worst:


01. Purple Rain (10)
02. Sign "☮" The Times (10)
03. 1999 (10)
04. Lovesexy (10)
05. Parade (10)
06. Around The World In A Day (10)
07. The Gold Experience (10)
08. Dirty Mind (10)
09. Controversy (9.5)
10. Diamonds & Pearls (9)
11. Love Symbol Album (9)
12. Come (9)
13. The Black Album (9)
14. The Rainbow Children (8)
15. Graffiti Bridge (8)
16. Prince (8)
17. For You (8)
18. Batman (8)
19. Art Official Age (8)
20. Crystal Ball (8)
21. Emancipation (8)
22. LotusFlower (7)
23. MPLSound (7)
24. Musicology (7)
25. Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (7)
26. The Truth (7)
27. Chaos & Disorder (7)
28. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (6)
29. The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale (6)
30. 20Ten (6)
31. The Chocolate Invasion (6)
32. Slaughterhouse (6)
33. 3121 (5)
34. Planet Earth (5)
35. PlectrumElectrum (4)
36. Newpower Soul (4)
37. One Nite Alone... Piano (3)
38. N.E.W.S. (2)
39. One Nite Alone... Live (2)
40. Indigo Nights (2)
41. Kamasutra (0)





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Reply #24 posted 08/13/15 1:42am

Ymaginatif

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It' s the most accessible album he's made in a long time

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Reply #25 posted 08/13/15 2:48am

IstenSzek

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KingSausage said:

I actually listened to plectrumrectum today it's fucking terrible.


falloff

i've tried again too, yesterday, and i don't like it any better than i did before.

who knows, it might change over time, although i tend to like his stuff from
the start or not at all (which is only about 8 songs in total).

then this album was released and it was like "here's 8 more" falloff

and to think about all the time i spent being excited when they started to put
up all that "WHATISPLECTRUMELECTRUM" shit lol

oh well, there's a few songs on here i like though, as i said "TicTacToe" and
"Anotherlove" are great. and i do kind of like, at least not hate, "Marz".

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #26 posted 08/13/15 4:16am

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KingSausage said:

How is this a real thread? STOPTHISBULLSHIT

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Reply #27 posted 08/13/15 4:58am

Gohi

feeluupp said:

Gohi said:

It's pure crap, aside from "WOW."

"AINTTURNINROUND" is probably my least favorite Prince tune ever.

My personal opinion for best and worst track on the album are:

BEST: ANOTHERLOVE

WORST: BOY TROUBLE

I forgot about BOY TROUBLE.

I also forgot about TICTACTOE and ANOTHER LOVE. I guess I like those too. smile

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Reply #28 posted 08/13/15 6:02am

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I listen to Plectrum a lot, or at least, the good parts of it with a few tweaks. I love the good stuff, really love it.

My track list :

Wow

Pretzelbodylogic (No chant intro)

Empty Room rehearsal
Plectrumelectrum
Screwdriver Remix (Edit)

Fixurlifeup

Tictactoe

Anotherlove

Marz

Funknroll

This is an awesome track list for me. In fact, I'm gonna listent to it now.

I try not to think about the deleted tracks from the release. Possibly some of the very worst things put on a Prince album. I've just clicked on it in my iTunes. Shit, I'd forgotten all about whitecaps! Why did I remind myself. Mind you, in it's favour, it is at least better than Aintturninround, stopthistrain and boytrouble. ill


RIP sad
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Reply #29 posted 08/13/15 1:32pm

lezama

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feeluupp said:

lezama said:

This is in my top ten Prince albums ever. I like every track on it. I like most everything on AOA and AOA's highs are better than PE's but as an entire unit for me PE comes out on top. I even like it better (as a whole) than Lotus.. as in, I can listen to PE without skipping a thing, while I'll always skip Love Like Jazz on Lotus. But the best of Lotus is still better than the best on PE to me.

In no order...

Purple Rain

Dirty Mind

Controversy

Sign O The Times

Parade

Around The World In A Day

Lovesexy

1999

Batman

Graffiti Bridge

.... Sorry Plectrum has no room in my TOP TEN lol

I like all those albums, but when I rank albums I think about the whole experience.. whether I have to skip anything or not... like if I were to leave an album on a go a read a book, would I have to get up to change anything. For my aesthetic, I don't listen to all that much stuff with R&B elements. I do, just I'm kinda picky, and I listen to a ton of weird music, so I'm probably more appreciative of his rock and experimental stuff than most.. so I also temper my reflections on anything with "imo" because most of the time I'm in the minority position.. at least on this board.

Change it one more time..
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