fbueller said:

Milty2 said:

I'm bored of these kind of threads. They are so 2001.

Prince is nearing 60 years old. Hard to believe but it's true. He is really past his amazing prime. Just like Stevie Wonder, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, Madonna and other legends.

But he is an icon who released a blinding collection of music that is yet to be rivalled. Having said all that, he still is a singular artist that does his own thing. We should chill on whetehr he can ever "cut it".

What's age got to do with it though? He doesn't lose his talent just because he's reached a certain age.

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If Prince has something to say (inspiration) and all the right factors aligned (writing, production and proper promotion) you don't believe it's possible Prince could surprise you with another great masterpiece?

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If Prince were to suddenly become broke and found himself posting on craigslist offering to teach guitar lessons bet he would come up with some really great songs then.

No you've misunderstood me. I'm saying he's past his prime. He had a very successful run in the 80s into the early 90s and everything changed for him and the music business. he'll probabaly never reach those heights but as far as live shows goes, he is peerless. Age has something to do with it I believe. He probably feels he doesn't need to be the top star anymore.

SoulAlive said:

Prince is gonna continue to release these one-off singles,with very little promotion and hype.He will also release albums occasionally,but again,with very little real promotion.I just don't think he cares about "structure" anymore He just wants the music to get out there.Kinda makes you miss the 80s and the first half of the 90s,huh? Back when everything was properly planned and organized.

I was actually excited to hear about AOA and PE having release schedules and all that. Then the promotion for it never happened and I thought a great oppurtunity was wasted.

laurarichardson said:

thedance said:

Damn! So very long time since Prince was "hot" outside the fanbase.

Damn! So very long time since Prince had a hit single - or a hit album.

It could be / it seems like.. people don't care much about Prince music (his new)


Where will he be Prince, in few years time, will he be totally forgotten...?

Will he be moving slowly further into "the dark"...?


Ps I am talking about the "newly" released studio music that isn't promoted much these days.

*I know Prince is still making good & very succesful concerts, but this thread isn't about that.


Is Prince a music-dinosaur, already extinct many years ago....

Looking into a crystal Ball: will he be totally forgotten, soon....

---- Try doing a little thinking before you post. Prince will be 60 in a few years no one his age gets radio AirPlay or has high charting records. Music sales are at all time low however, you can go on line or Facebook and find a million recordings by Prince and go to many online retailers and purchase his music. Because young people are too lazy or cheap has nothing to do with Prince or any other artist his age. I will not even go into the dozen or so artist that have music out right now that you can hear his influence.

Try putting a little effort toward grammar & sentence structure when you post.

It's not very difficult. Really.

I think Prince falls into the category of being a Legacy Artist. Legacy Artist is a new term I heard a DJ use a few months ago. They are older artists that used have big hits years ago that still get respected for what they do but do not sell as well now. Sometimes radio stations won't play their music because the station wont play music made by older artists. Madonna had this issue in the UK with her last album. So we will probably not hear any new Prince music on the radio unless some of these new rules change.

It does seem to be a generational shift too. New people are in charge of what we hear on the radio some of them have decide there is a age limit for that they will play or not, or where certain music I anked on which music chart. 2004-2007 was the last time we really heard new Prince music on the radio and some songs hit the Top Ten. That was also the same time period when U2 and Madonna had any real music chart success too. I tried to go through the Top Twenty on iTunes last week and I think I found two songs I even liked and would purchase. Most of what is considered music today, or rather hit music, just sounds like noise to me and does not move me to listen to it anymore.

I find it odd that Prince has filled the evolutionary niche of MJ's death.

MJ served the roll of the guy on top of the ant hill as far as star power, despite the molestation stuff, but he's been dead for years. One would think people are still looking for that 'guy on top', and Prince is the only one that can do it. Madonna sure didn't.

lwr001 said:

Blixical said:

In a few years time, he'll be 60.
i'm guessing he'll still be trying to be seen publicly with young women around him, etc.

But, Rock 'n' Roll is a youth oriented thing, and hot sales and heavy rotation are associated with peolpe in the 20s. Prince is just too old. Sure, there are a few folks who buck this trend from time to time, but it's not an ongoing thing. I mean Carlos Santana is not going to continously have huge hits album after album, just cause he scored big with something a few years back.

But, do we really want Prince chasing hits at this point?
I mean, have any of you SEEN Madonna's latest desperate video?

It's cringe-worthy and just really sad to witness.

What I'd like to see from Prince is consistent late-career albums on par with his 80s output in quality if not "relevancy." Folks whot think 20Ten, Lotusflow3r, or AOA are great albums will have their reasons for thinking so. But, I disagree. They're albums that vaguely hint at how good a song writer Prince can be if he put his mind to it--but, they fall short of being indicative of it. Prince can do better. Screw the hit-single stuff.

so, he should do what you would like to see?

I'm going to guess you have a comprehension problem. No, actually--I'm pretty sure that you do.

I never said he should do what I want him to. I simply stated what I'd like to see.

Please...for the sake of yourself and all that is right in this world... learn to read.

Ok, wow is this old thread I made quite a long time ago still alive..?

I admit I was in a kind of blue depression when I made this thread,

I still think it's a nice thread though, IMHO..

Imo Prince has reached the bottom in his career, it can only be better, only go forward from nowon, careerwise..

Right??????

SoulAlive said:

He just wants the music to get out there.

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By releasing one single every couple of months?

thedance said:

Ok, wow is this old thread I made quite a long time ago still alive..?

I admit I was in a kind of blue depression when I made this thread,

I still think it's a nice thread though, IMHO..

Imo Prince has reached the bottom in his career, it can only be better, only go forward from nowon, careerwise..

Right??????

agreed it doesnt seem like Prince

could sink lower.

now he either wakes up

or he will fade away.

Musically Prince is now on the same level as Sherman Hemsley and Nipsey Russell.

[Edited 7/21/15 9:49am]

RedKite said:

I think Prince falls into the category of being a Legacy Artist. Legacy Artist is a new term I heard a DJ use a few months ago. They are older artists that used have big hits years ago that still get respected for what they do but do not sell as well now

Legacy artists are respected for what they DID.
As is Prince.

NorthC said:

Prince isn't at a low point at all. On the contrary. He's reached the point where he can do whatever he wants. Release a new single...or not. Make an album...or not. Pop up in any given city and sell out a theatre in a few minutes. What ya'll need to remember, is that people in their 50s usually aren't as ambitious as people in their 20s. He doesn't have to conquer the world. Been there done that. Don't worry about him. He's doing alright.

Sure, he's doing alright in Princeland.

If you've lost the ambition to make good music, you should just stop.

NorthC said:

Prince isn't at a low point at all. On the contrary. He's reached the point where he can do whatever he wants. Release a new single...or not. Make an album...or not. Pop up in any given city and sell out a theatre in a few minutes.

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Ah, good ole Org, where ever lowering expectations mixed with blatant nonsense (no, he cannot just release a single or an album on a whim -- HAVE YOU NOT PAID ATTENTION IN THE PAST YEARS?) is regarded as excellent news.

nursev said:

He'll be forgotten by the general public just the way he wants, but his fans will always remember. kinda sad really. my 22 year old son asked where he could listen to Prince and there was no place I could tell him...very sad.

That hurt to read

BartVanHemelen said:

Angelsoncrack said:

NorthC said:

Angelsoncrack said:

That hurt to read

No, it doesn't. Just play the kid some CDs and LPs.

I dunno, I think it's different. Like, I personally kind of feel like I have to listen to them in my own time on my own to properly discover the music. I grew up around my Dad listening to Rush but never fully got into them until my teens because I hadn't listened to them for myself.

Or maybe it's just me lol

NorthC said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Ah, good ole Org, where ever lowering expectations mixed with blatant nonsense (no, he cannot just release a single or an album on a whim -- HAVE YOU NOT PAID ATTENTION IN THE PAST YEARS?) is regarded as excellent news.

Have YOU heared Hardrocklover and Baltimore? Whether you like the songs or not, they were released, right?

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And if you think he didn't need to ask WBR's permission for those releases, you're wrong. Go on, where's the NPGQ album? Where's the NPG album teased last year? Where's that album he teased for this summer?

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The only thing he's "released" was that WeTransfer link to that protege artist and he got buried in lawsuits over it. Notice how there's nothing happening there now?

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Am I seriously to believe that Prince has recorded dozens of songs since releasing AOA & PlecElec and yet virtually nothing got released because that's how Prince wants it? Why did he have to whine just to get WBR to release PlecElec?

therat said:

Musically Prince is now on the same level as Sherman Hemsley and Nipsey Russell.

[Edited 7/21/15 9:49am]

BartVanHemelen said:

NorthC said:

BartVanHemelen said: Have YOU heared Hardrocklover and Baltimore? Whether you like the songs or not, they were released, right?

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And if you think he didn't need to ask WBR's permission for those releases, you're wrong. Go on, where's the NPGQ album? Where's the NPG album teased last year? Where's that album he teased for this summer?

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The only thing he's "released" was that WeTransfer link to that protege artist and he got buried in lawsuits over it. Notice how there's nothing happening there now?

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Am I seriously to believe that Prince has recorded dozens of songs since releasing AOA & PlecElec and yet virtually nothing got released because that's how Prince wants it? Why did he have to whine just to get WBR to release PlecElec?

What do you mean by "buried in lawsuits". He was sued by the singer's former manager and no one else, not even Sony, unless you have facts about the case that I dont.

And as far as the statement in bold why not? His releases since Lotusflower has been weird, however perhaps you have facts about this WBR agreement that we dont know about. If you could shed more on it because it seems like you're guessing for the sake of being negative. you say "nothings happening now" but nothing has happened before, espcially after 20ten way before this WBR agreement.

[Edited 7/22/15 9:15am]

thedance said:

Damn! So very long time since Prince was "hot" outside the fanbase.

Damn! So very long time since Prince had a hit single - or a hit album.

It could be / it seems like.. people don't care much about Prince music (his new)


Where will he be Prince, in few years time, will he be totally forgotten...?

Will he be moving slowly further into "the dark"...?


Ps I am talking about the "newly" released studio music that isn't promoted much these days.

*I know Prince is still making good & very succesful concerts, but this thread isn't about that.


Is Prince a music-dinosaur, already extinct many years ago....

Looking into a crystal Ball: will he be totally forgotten, soon....

Prince is a LEGEND. Full Stop.

Work backwards from there.

terrig said:

thedance said:

Damn! So very long time since Prince was "hot" outside the fanbase.

Damn! So very long time since Prince had a hit single - or a hit album.

It could be / it seems like.. people don't care much about Prince music (his new)


Where will he be Prince, in few years time, will he be totally forgotten...?

Will he be moving slowly further into "the dark"...?


Ps I am talking about the "newly" released studio music that isn't promoted much these days.

*I know Prince is still making good & very succesful concerts, but this thread isn't about that.


Is Prince a music-dinosaur, already extinct many years ago....

Looking into a crystal Ball: will he be totally forgotten, soon....

Prince is a LEGEND. Full Stop.

Work backwards from there.

Pots Full. DNEGEL a si Ecnirp.

Whats the next step?

I'll say this: I heard Rihanna's song BBHMM on XM radio yesterday, and a bit of the production reminded me of Prince's Ex's Face (which was never officially released).

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So I think his finger on the pulse of what's hot/trending right now, even if he doesn't always incorporate it into his own music.

Se7en said:

I'll say this: I heard Rihanna's song BBHMM on XM radio yesterday, and a bit of the production reminded me of Prince's Ex's Face (which was never officially released).

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So I think his finger on the pulse of what's hot/trending right now, even if he doesn't always incorporate it into his own music.

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Rihanna's song is basically a trap song (mixed with hip-hop). Trap's been around for years, and has been very popular since 2012. Praising Prince for noticing a trend years after it started isn't really a compliment.

BartVanHemelen said:

Se7en said:

I'll say this: I heard Rihanna's song BBHMM on XM radio yesterday, and a bit of the production reminded me of Prince's Ex's Face (which was never officially released).

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So I think his finger on the pulse of what's hot/trending right now, even if he doesn't always incorporate it into his own music.

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Rihanna's song is basically a trap song (mixed with hip-hop). Trap's been around for years, and has been very popular since 2012. Praising Prince for noticing a trend years after it started isn't really a compliment.

Sry BART ur wrong on this one... Trap has been very popular in the hip hop scene way before 2012... It got big in 2004, especially with emerging artists such as T.I. Mike Jones, Slim Thug, etc...

feeluupp said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Rihanna's song is basically a trap song (mixed with hip-hop). Trap's been around for years, and has been very popular since 2012. Praising Prince for noticing a trend years after it started isn't really a compliment.

Sry BART ur wrong on this one... Trap has been very popular in the hip hop scene way before 2012... It got big in 2004, especially with emerging artists such as T.I. Mike Jones, Slim Thug, etc...

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I know that, what I said is that trap GOT VERY POPULAR in 2012.

He'll probably produce a song for Miguel and Bruno...