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Thread started 06/20/15 8:31am

KingSausage

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Aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic vs Batman and Grafitti Bridge?

I've always enjoyed Batman even though it's clearly not as strong as Prince's other 80's albums. And I'm not a huge fan of Grafitti Bridge, even after you strip it down to only the Prince tracks. But I'll take either of those albums over the various incarnations of the aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic. Aside from a few killer tracks, including ones like Moonbeam Levels that don't really fit, those configurations are full of filler and weak tracks. I think that would have been one of Prince's weakest albums, at least until the post-WB era. I'm glad he didn't release that shit.

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Reply #1 posted 06/20/15 8:41am

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imo the Batman soundtrack is amazing. heart

And Graffiti Bridge is strong as well imo... if you count on the Prince songs. heart


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Reply #2 posted 06/20/15 8:43am

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KingSausage said:

Aside from a few killer tracks, including ones like Moonbeam Levels that don't really fit, those configurations are full of filler and weak tracks. I think that would have been one of Prince's weakest albums.... I'm glad he didn't release that shit. http://www.princevault.co..._Fantastic

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I agree, those songs don't look too good.

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Reply #3 posted 06/20/15 8:50am

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A lot of his songs from this era sound too hyper for me. I'm not a musician so I can't describe what I'm thinking. But they seem...too fast? Unnaturally sped up? Overly complicated and sloppy for no good reason? A good example is The Line. Something just sounds off to me. I don't know.

This is one of my least favorite Prince eras, the time between Lovesexy and Symbol.
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Reply #4 posted 06/20/15 9:02am

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Personally I believe if Graffiti Bridge was stripped down it would have been his best album of the 90's... Just the fact a song like Joy in Repetition is on an album is one of his best songs of all time IMO.

Also many people under rate and don't give credit to the song Thieves in The Temple, listen to it today, look how fresh it sounds after over 20 years...

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Reply #5 posted 06/20/15 9:24am

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Who's to say when we haven't heard some of the songs from it, like Stimulation and Am I Without U?. Not to mention the full of Big House. I dig Batman and GB, so either way it's all good with me lurking.

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Reply #6 posted 06/20/15 10:28am

warning2all

Graffiti Bridge is a great lp.

Nice to have a "Prince & Friends" album in the discography

Rave 1989 was super weak I agree.

Batman has some good moments-it is what it is as a popcorn movie tie-in. Hard to be too critical of it
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Reply #7 posted 06/22/15 1:02am

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Im glad we got Batman instead of Rave. Although Batman doesnt neatly tie up the 80s as one continual streak of genius, it does have its place. It kind of says, "hey look, Ive just had a decade of doing it my way and, if truth be told, Im kinda broke and a bit tired now. So, ladies and gentleman, I give you Batman". Its almost like an encore for the decade where the set has been played in full, and this is just a light hearted finale, chilled out with no stress. Rave wouldnt have done that. It would have failed and seemed like Prince had tried one thing too many and rounded off the decade on a sour note.

Plus Batman brought Prince back to the masses and helped his bank account, ready for the next decade. And what better way to start off the decade than to release the megasmash, unrivalled, tour de force movie that is.... er... Grafitti Bridge. The album is pretty good and I like it. But to kick start the decade with that movie? Well, in the words of Kingsausage, that sucked balls. A ball sucking moment to rival any in his career. I think only Purple & Gold can better the spherical suction taking place in GB.

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Reply #8 posted 06/22/15 1:12am

NorthC

Anything would have been better than Batman. He wrote some great songs back then: Rave, Dance with the Devil, Power From Above, God Is Alive. All of them much better than anything on Batman. But rebeljuice is right of course, he needed the money.
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Reply #9 posted 06/22/15 1:52am

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I dream of having the Jan 1989 tracklist version. Dream.

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Reply #10 posted 06/22/15 2:27am

Pentacle

feeluupp said:

Personally I believe if Graffiti Bridge was stripped down it would have been his best album of the 90's...


That's how I listen to Graffiti Bridge: stripped down to all the Prince songs. All 17 of them.

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Reply #11 posted 06/22/15 12:00pm

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KingSausage said:

I've always enjoyed Batman even though it's clearly not as strong as Prince's other 80's albums. And I'm not a huge fan of Grafitti Bridge, even after you strip it down to only the Prince tracks. But I'll take either of those albums over the various incarnations of the aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic. Aside from a few killer tracks, including ones like Moonbeam Levels that don't really fit, those configurations are full of filler and weak tracks. I think that would have been one of Prince's weakest albums, at least until the post-WB era. I'm glad he didn't release that shit. http://www.princevault.co..._Fantastic

I've always considered those 3 tracklists totally extravagant, at least based on the released/circulating versions of those tracks: each config seems like a random collection of songs that have little if anything to do together. I'm pretty sure it can't have been as bad as it looks, though, I'd really like the tapes P made to leak so we can understand exactly what he had in mind with the appropriate version of each song.

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Reply #12 posted 06/22/15 12:18pm

SoulAlive

KingSausage said:

I've always enjoyed Batman even though it's clearly not as strong as Prince's other 80's albums. And I'm not a huge fan of Grafitti Bridge, even after you strip it down to only the Prince tracks. But I'll take either of those albums over the various incarnations of the aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic. Aside from a few killer tracks, including ones like Moonbeam Levels that don't really fit, those configurations are full of filler and weak tracks. I think that would have been one of Prince's weakest albums, at least until the post-WB era. I'm glad he didn't release that shit. http://www.princevault.co..._Fantastic

I feel the same way.

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