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Let's Discuss High - The Chocolate Invasion - The Slaughterhouse! Let's discuss the tracks Prince recorded for High, The Chocolate Invasion, and The Slaughterhouse (using the Princevault track list for High). This was an odd time in the world of Prince, if you ask me. I remember the hype on the Org when High was rumored...but then the disappointment when people heard the songs and were let down. Then the album never materialized. I was okay with that because he release TRC instead, which I think is a masterpiece. Supercute: This is a great pop tune. Simple, straightforward, effective. The sound effects are corny though. Underneath the Cream: Fuck yeah. Great song. I started a thread about it the other day to show my appreciation. Golden Parachute: Not the worst song ever, but nothing special. Undercooked. When Will We Be Paid?: Great song. Passionate. Blistering. Nice work. The Daisy Chain: Terrible. Just awful. Gamillah: Zzz...zzz...zzz...oh, uh, what? High: Wow, what a stinker! This would have been his absolute worst title track. My Medallion: Cheesy, but for some reason I like it. U Make My Sun Shine: Pleasant. A little unexceptional. When Eye Lay My Hands On U: Excellent. I love it. Judas Smile: Much ado about nothing. Sexmesexmenot: Lame. Vavoom: Good song. It SMOKED live. Wow. The Dance: Good, but I like the 3121 version better. Silicon: I really like this one. Cool beat. But a little underdone. S&M Groove: Kind of fun. But forgettable. Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This?: No, don't do any of this. Or that. It all sucks. Don't do anything, please. I saw him perform this one at Paisley and it was directionless, pointless bragging. Hypnoparadise: Kind of cool. I like it. Props 'N Pounds: My least favorite Prince song. Not even Purple and Gold has a fucking Kurt Loder sample. This is Prince at his most desperate and clueless. Northside: Boring but pleasant. Peace: Funky. Fuck yeah. 2045: Radical Man: There's nothing radical about this crap. There were some other songs around this time that aren't on he track listings. Wasn't there some boring instrumental called Habibi? Excuse the typos. I was writing quickly. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Respectfully disagree re:High as title track. I loved it the first time I heard it and still do. One of his best. High album would have been a classic if dropped officially and promoted. Still so happy I have these tracks from NPGMC tho, they all rock! I wish u heaven | |
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Spanky said: Respectfully disagree re:High as title track. I loved it the first time I heard it and still do. One of his best. High album would have been a classic if dropped officially and promoted. Still so happy I have these tracks from NPGMC tho, they all rock! Thanks for your post! What are your favorite tracks? Anything you don't like? "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I rate both albums about 6/10, a little above average.. Prince 4Ever. | |
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crap, just crap even worse than NPS or MPLS | |
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I don't really care for Vavoom all that much, although it has some cool guitar harmonies weaving in and out. Judas Smile and Silicon are kind of odd, but I like them...I just have to be in the mood to give them a spin. -- I absolutely LOVE all of the rest, especially "Sexmesexmenot" and "Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This." It baffles me how anyone can hear those two in particular and not be floored, the bragging and slam against "Sister" and "Dirty Mind" notwithstanding. Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger! | |
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KingSausage said: Spanky said: Respectfully disagree re:High as title track. I loved it the first time I heard it and still do. One of his best. High album would have been a classic if dropped officially and promoted. Still so happy I have these tracks from NPGMC tho, they all rock! Thanks for your post! What are your favorite tracks? Anything you don't like? Golden Parachute and Underneath the Cream do bore me a little. I like P talking in the beginning of underneath though. That's the only good part of that song. I wish u heaven | |
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Yes, let's!
[Edited 6/5/15 21:20pm] "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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Schlomo, I think we were at many of the same Paisley shows in 1999-2001 or so. We've discussed it before, but I'll bring it up again because I think it's cool. Do you remember when Prince played Y Should Eye Do That for the first time? Kind of an underwhelming show in the Love4OneAnother room, with Geneva prancing around? I just thought Prince was fucking around on his keys. I never imagined it was an actual song he was performing! It seemed so...empty. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I wasn't at this one! And thank God for it! Those were some real uninspired times for him, that song being a prime example. We you there the night Mayte got up and danced during Poom Poom? "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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I have a weird relationship with these albums....like I know they are actually quite average...but I still abolutely love them....some guilty pleasure I guess | |
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SchlomoThaHomo said:
I wasn't at this one! And thank God for it! Those were some real uninspired times for him, that song being a prime example. We you there the night Mayte got up and danced during Poom Poom? That seems familiar. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I actually looked this gig up on princevault. Looks like a cool set list. Vavoom would've been nice to see live. "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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SchlomoThaHomo said:
I actually looked this gig up on princevault. Looks like a cool set list. Vavoom would've been nice to see live. Vavoom was killer live. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I don't know if I ever told you this, but I remember you in line, with a girl, introducing yourself to someone else. You asked them if they were on the org and said your screen name was KingSausage, which compelled me to look at you. Shorter (than me anyway) with a slender frame and a buzz cut? "That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide." | |
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SchlomoThaHomo said:
I don't know if I ever told you this, but I remember you in line, with a girl, introducing yourself to someone else. You asked them if they were on the org and said your screen name was KingSausage, which compelled me to look at you. Shorter (than me anyway) with a slender frame and a buzz cut? Yep. That was me! Hahaha. Fortunately I lost the buzz cut. Y should my hair do that when it can do this? (Also, that was before I got married, so I'm glad someone witnessed me talking to a girl.) "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Very rarely listen to these albums now. Only couple of decent tracks amongst all the plastic uninspired stinkers. Supercute, Vavoom and When I Lay My Hands On U are unlucky to be in such bad company. . I'm more puzzled by KingSausage's buzz cut tho | |
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dodger said: Very rarely listen to these albums now. Only couple of decent tracks amongst all the plastic uninspired stinkers. Supercute, Vavoom and When I Lay My Hands On U are unlucky to be in such bad company. . I'm more puzzled by KingSausage's buzz cut tho "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I used to think these songs were the armpit or sweaty asshole of Prince's catalog. But they're way better on average than MPLSound or Planet Earth. I think they're better on average than NPS too, though nothing here can rival Come On. I do like Rave (either version) way more than these songs though. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I need all of this material in the highest quality. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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Graycap23 said: I need all of this material in the highest quality. I know some of this material made it onto collections from Sabotage and others. Is it in the same quality on those collections as it was through NPGMC? Did it ever leak in higher quality than NPGMC? I'm guessing not, but wanted to ask. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Weird time to be a Prince fan, for sure. As these songs were individually released to fans monthly as per of the NPGMC, they were exciting to me. There aren't any masterpieces here, but I definitely got the sense that there was an abandoned project that Prince decided to share with us. And that first year of the club was so promising with the "Ahdio" shows and individual tracks no one had heard before.
. Then most of the songs from year 1 were compiled into these albums. I was a little ticked off. Same songs for the most part, some slightly alternate / extended versions so it was compelling to drop money for them, but most songs crapped all over by censoring. Made me very glad to have the originals. . Some of the censoring seems unnecessary, too, even for Prince. . The word "damn" is backmasked in SM Groove and we've heard "hell" and "damn" out of his mouth since then. . While there's nothing overly special on these compilations other than an apparent requirement to use car sound effects on every song (how many engine starts and horn beeps are there here?!?), the highlights make them fun. I actually really like Sexmesexmenot - the extended ending on the album version was really killer I thought. Vavoom - Prince was probably right about. Could have been a radio hit with a decent video. Look at how well Cream did. . Lowlights are really, really low. Like Planet Earth low for me. Props N Pounds is just scraping-the-bottom-of-the-purple-barrel awful. I'm with King Sausage on Y Should I Do This - just....no. Y Would Anyone Listen 2 That? . Overall, it felt like the Vault doors were opening a little back then. 3 years removed from Crystal Ball, we got to hear songs that were otherwise going to never be heard. For that, I appreciate both albums. . Sorely missing from these: Van Gogh, Jukebox With A Heartbeat. I think he should have put one on each album. At the very least, the ratio of engine and car horn effects per song would have been reduced. [Edited 6/6/15 6:04am] Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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Van Gogh! Yes, I new I forgot something. That's a good one. I've never even heard Jukeboz With A Heartbeat. Damn. Has anyone ever detailed which songs were censored, extended, or otherwise changed from the Ahdio shows to the eventual Chocolate/Slaughterhouse releases? I feel like I've only ever heard censored versions. I missed out on most of these tracks back in the day. I had next to no disposable income, so I passed on joining the NPGMC. I only heard these songs on random CDs friends sent me, most of which stopped working years ago. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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I think these are very under rated projects. Way better (on average) than NPS or Rave or even Musicology or Planet Earth. I wish this stuff would come out in lossless, uncensored quality, preferrably on CD (or VINYL!!). Not dead, not in prison, still funkin'... | |
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If nothing else, there's a TON of variety in these songs. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: Van Gogh! Yes, I new I forgot something. That's a good one. I've never even heard Jukeboz With A Heartbeat. Damn. Has anyone ever detailed which songs were censored, extended, or otherwise changed from the Ahdio shows to the eventual Chocolate/Slaughterhouse releases? I feel like I've only ever heard censored versions. I missed out on most of these tracks back in the day. I had next to no disposable income, so I passed on joining the NPGMC. I only heard these songs on random CDs friends sent me, most of which stopped working years ago. . Jukebox With A Heartbeat was buried in an Ahdio Show, never released as a stand-alone track. I edited it out as a single track but it's marred by the Ahdio Show's crummy 128kbps MP3 bitrate. . http://www.princevault.co..._Heartbeat Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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KingSausage said: Graycap23 said: I need all of this material in the highest quality. I know some of this material made it onto collections from Sabotage and others. Is it in the same quality on those collections as it was through NPGMC? Did it ever leak in higher quality than NPGMC? I'm guessing not, but wanted to ask. I'm pretty certain the original tracks were made available monthly as your choice of 128 Kbps or 256 Kbps MP3 files. (I remember downloading the lower bitrate song so I could get it quickly, then letting the higher quality files download later because it was not a fast process back then with a dialup connection at home). The two compilation albums we are discussing here were released as awful rights-protected WMA files. To my ears, the 256 Kbps MP3 files sound better (and those are the ones not censored, but some tracks are shorter than the compilation versions). Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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KingSausage said: Has anyone ever detailed which songs were censored, extended, or otherwise changed from the Ahdio shows to the eventual Chocolate/Slaughterhouse releases? I feel like I've only ever heard censored versions. The "Trivia" section at the bottom right of these pages details the differences between "album" tracks and the original MP3 releases: http://www.princevault.co...e_Invasion And http://www.princevault.co...ghterhouse Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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Doozer said: KingSausage said: Has anyone ever detailed which songs were censored, extended, or otherwise changed from the Ahdio shows to the eventual Chocolate/Slaughterhouse releases? I feel like I've only ever heard censored versions. The "Trivia" section at the bottom right of these pages details the differences between "album" tracks and the original MP3 releases: http://www.princevault.co...e_Invasion And http://www.princevault.co...ghterhouse Here's more trivia: King Sausage needs to learn how to scroll down. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: Doozer said: The "Trivia" section at the bottom right of these pages details the differences between "album" tracks and the original MP3 releases: http://www.princevault.co...e_Invasion And http://www.princevault.co...ghterhouse Here's more trivia: King Sausage needs to learn how to scroll down. Like some of Prince's albums, the good stuff is sometimes buried beneathe the crap that holds little interest to you. Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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