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PrintablePoplife88 said: I still think The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale is the best of the "Contractual Obligation" trilogy. [Edited 5/18/15 12:42pm] I love The Vault. I totally agree. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Poplife88 said: I still think The Vault: Old Friends 4 Sale is the best of the "Contractual Obligation" trilogy. [Edited 5/18/15 12:42pm] Emancipation has less balls than most Prince albums because it is 91% straight up R&B. He doesn't have too many of those. His first two albums come to mind. I'm not a fan of R&B but I love Emancipation more than Chaos. Chaos is a great album though. | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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About "I Rock, Therefore I Am" : the song gets torched in flames, but strangely enough everyone seems to know The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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Is there anything Prince has done that you don't conside a masterpiece? | |
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being emancipated from WbR. Also a soft rock album, that peeps here seem 2 have orgasisms about. So why it's less liked baffles me.
That's...that's not bad at all. Bravo and good mixing. Fine idea. All those songs fit right into C&D's style and are better than the hip hop numbers (although I like those).
I'd get rid of "Had U" and maybe "In 2 the Light", substituting the ones you did, but nice job. You turned a three star album into a 4.5. | |
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KingSausage said:I actually love every song on this album. Even Right the Wrong. Dig U Better Dead. I Rock Therefore I Am. I grew up loving Prince's music but I didn't start buying and collecting it until 1997. Emancipation and Chaos & Disorder were the most recent albums from him. At the time, I thought they were shit because I compared it to his past albums. But I've grown to love Chaos since then. Its qualities have emerged over time. And it's closer to classic Prince (in time and in spirit) than many of his lackluster albums since then. ------I feel the same way. Always loved this album! | |
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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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Played it to death back then, always loved this record and defended it, it got lost quick and then buried when Emancipation came out months later, at the time Prince was putting out tons of music, but i also say this was not a throwaway to him, meaning Prince doesnt go into the studio and say I dont give a shit and yeah put that out. Now he may not wanna promote (does he ever?) or talk and do shoots for the record, which he did not want to for this one, exception being Letterman and then the Today Show, which I was at and that was my first intro to RHONDA SMITH!.
My only down on this album is with what gets in the way of almost all his albums the last 2 decades or so, THE MIXING!! The mixing on this album is god awful, the sequencing the track mixing, awful, and for a guy who PREACHES about the ALBUM, he cant mix one properly or get the right people to do them for him. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I like some rock in my funk, and not some funk in my rock....
So, I don't care for the early 90s Lenny-Rock throwback moments on here....
"I Rock"
(minus the dance-hall rapper and breakdowns..) = a funky masterpeice. NIce lead chords... It got me from the beginning...(Good tracks do) The reggae drop-beats kill the groove.. Just let that funk roll... I used to fantasize about this song without the rapper, and frequent breaks...It seems simple..Sometimes, less is more...Too much movement in a track to show genius, can drill a hole, and it still has no groove.
Bland on the drums!!!!!! Rosie. What else?
A funk song called "I Rock, Therefore I Am"?..
"I Will"
Very good. Rosie. What else?
"Chaos & Disorder" Yeah..I like it despite the rock...
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I was diasappointed with Chaos and Disorder when it first came out. Over time it has grown on me. I certainly wouldn't call it a masterpiece. However, I love the title track along with Zanalee and Dinner With Dolores. I think if I had had the opportunity to see/hear Prince preform more of the music from Chaos and Disorder live my feeling would be differnt because I'm sure he could've killed on stage. If a man is considered guilty
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The Into The Light and I Will are a brilliant sequence, thematically, lyrically and musically. It deserves a special place in Prince Work, I think. It sounds like a framework for the "Emancipation" that never was. I would have loved a complete Christian Rock album. At least we would have another Prince going messiah bashing, the poor Jehovah Rainbow Children get all the booing, and Kevin Smith doesn't help. But imagine : these two, plus "The Holy River", "One Of Us", and a little before, "Love Thy Will B Done", "Dolphin" and "Gold", and you get a weird Roman Catholic Apostolic Pop record. The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
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I've always had a special place in my heart for that album. I enjoyed what he was trying to do. It fails in numerous places (the horribly "shiny" recording/production, I Rock's chorus, the cheesy "like a brontosaurus" lyric that screams rhyme desperation, to bame a few) but there's just something about that album to me. Maybe it was the times, the whole "I'm still a Prince fan even though he's an insane fuck that changed his name to a symbol and has slave written in his face" era was pretty fun! But I still won't delude myself into thinking it's "great". Doesn't have to be to like it. |
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The problem some have with it is the previous configurations and even recordings in a lot of cases, were much better than the final product, this is the case with me. Speaking as someone who was around Paisley Park and Prince constantly during this period, I can't say enough about how Warner robbed so many people of an amazing period of his music. Clearly much was said about the feud, but it's really difficult to explain how far Prince went out of his way to piss them off at every turn.The "free the slave" chants you hear on Crystal Ball's live version of "Days of Wild" was done on a night when there were a couple hundred people at Paisley Park, watching him perform all new and current material. The Gold Experience stage set was fully set up in there for quite a long period of months, possibly even longer than a year, before the general public ever saw it. Warner had come to town to check up on his progress and go into negotiations, so he had a party and played a coup,e hours of new unreleased material for his fans, while having the crowd constantly give the reps shit. If I am not mistaken, Michael Jackson was in attendance that night. The point to be made here is that none of these songs were filler. They were just being worked and reworked for years on end. Prince was never trying to release filler to anyone, that was Warner Brothers story at the time. He was just trying to release a ton of material to his fans, and as a result, many songs on Chaos and Disorder were reworked to keep Prince himself interested in them. Many of those songs had been being played in Minneapolis since 1992. As a side note, reworking Zanalee,I Like It There, and the crime of leaving off Empty Room hurt the album badly to many people. Don't believe that Prince was serving you filler through that period. It's not true. Warner was stopping the flow of music to you, so as a result things were being reworked beyond what would normally have happened. I will say one thing though. That period through the 90s is stronger than many people give it credit for. Prince performing his music every single night gave us all so many great songs. He is at his best when he is constantly working. I'm sorry so many missed out on such a great period, and didn't hear anything of it until years after the dongs were complete, but be glad you did. What he is doing now with 3EG is a direct extension of what he was doing in the early-mid 90s with the NPG. Expect an amazing album this year. | |
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