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"30th Anniversary of Around the World in a Day" (soulhead.com)

In the spring of 1985, there were two types of Prince fans–those who boarded the violet-hued bandwagon years before Purple Rain (both the album and the film) became the pop culture sensation of the year, and those who were recent converts to the church of soulfully spooky electric funk. What was once a cult had seemingly overnight turned into a crowded congregation of fans who were turned out by the haunting beauty of the single “When Doves Cry,” which was in constant rotation on MTV as well as Black radio; the release of Purple Rain in theaters two months later marked a new age and millions of new listeners.

Although Prince’s success had been in motion since 1978 when he was an Afro wearing teen riding his bicycle to go meet Cynthia Horner and posed for the cover of Right On, his debut For You was an alright album that barely hinted at dude’s forthcoming genius. A fan since my Baltimore high school days when I discovered him while kickin’ out the jams in my cousin’s bedroom, where “Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad” and “Bambi” changed my life, I’d always admired Prince’s chameleon styled quality.

Lying in a dark room wearing massive headphones, I’d listen intensely to the sci-fi nightmares of “Annie Christian” or the sex-fantasy of romp of “Head;” the boy was bold, brash and unpredictable. During that early period, I choose my friends and lovers based on one simple question: “Are you a Prince fan?” Having gulped the violet flavored kool-aid years before those crying doves were released, it was weird watching folks who, a few years back, had never heard a Prince song before, but now were suddenly going around talking about how the Minneapolis native was their favorite artist.

No longer just the private joy of devoted fans, who bought the b-sides and bootlegs, read album credits in hopes of discovering a crumb of knowledge (“I wonder why he calls himself Jamie Starr on that The Time album”) and stood in line at shows for hours chatting with like-minded folks. With Prince’s use of synthetic horns, funk bottom, rock guitar and superb songwriting, the Minneapolis Sound would become as influential as Motown, P-Funk and Burt Bacharach.

Prince was a mack, but he also had a feminine side he wasn’t afraid to reveal. As much as he might’ve worshipped at the altar of James Brown, Sly Stone and George Clinton, he was also checking for and learning from Nona Hendryx, Joyce Kennedy and Chaka Khan. In 1987, Prince wrote the smoking “Baby Go Go” for former LaBelle member Hendryx.

Although I missed early Prince concerts featuring his funk brothers The Time and girl-group extension Vanity 6 opening for him, friends who followed from venue to venue raved about the sound, the spectacle and the sheer musical force he displayed on stage. Before the mass conversion that came with Purple Rain, I usually found myself in weird discussions about Prince’s race and sexuality (“Is he black or white, straight or gay?”), not really understanding why any of that mattered over the music. Each year the brother emerged from various studios with a record that was richer than the last.

While the mainstream tries to portray every Black boy guitarist as the son of Hendrix, it was obvious from the beginning that Prince was a student of diverse sounds. In front of the mic, he was influenced by music that ranged from Elvis to Al Green, Joni Mitchell to Kraftwerk. Like so many fans, whatever he said he dug, that what I dug. As soon as he mentioned the jazzy blues of The Hissing of Summer Lawns, I was listening to that sexy m.f. for hours on end.

Prince prided himself on sounding like no one else; and don’t even get me started on the ballads, baby-making tracks like “Do Me Baby,” “International Lover” and “The Beautiful Ones” that made panties drop and boys do tricks they’d never thought of before. Behind the boards, in his role as a producer, he was equally inspired by Brian Wilson, Norman Whitfield, Sly Stone, Phil Spector, Stevie Wonder and others who “played” the studio as though it were an instrument. Prince might’ve had his eye on the pop life prize long before baby became came a star, but he was always experimenting with different sounds, textures and colors to create the most interesting music of his generation.

Like Bowie, the rock star he most reminded me of in those early years, the high-heeled bro switched sounds easily and dared his disciples to boldly follow him through strange soundscapes that progressed from the shiny Black pop of For You to the erotic cock rock of Dirty Mind to the often dark electronic visions heard on 1999. In 1984, with the formation of a new band called the Revolution that included future collaborators keyboardist Lisa Coleman and guitarist Wendy Melovin, he crafted some of the best material of his career.

Released two years later, Purple Rain was both a gift and curse that made Prince a household name and an Oscar winner. It also put him under the magnifying glass with both the mainstream and music critics watching his every move, reporting on what they viewed as his bizarre behavior. On January 28, 1985, when, after winning two Grammies, Prince declined to participate in the star-studded “We Are the World” recording spearheaded by Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson for USA for Africa, one would’ve thought the man slapped his momma the way the self-righteous media behaved.

While not one of his best b-sides (that honor is something like a tie between “17 Days” and “Irresistible Bitch,” one of the illest love songs ever written) Prince later tackled the subject of fame on “Hello.” One of the truest and shadiest lines was when Prince sang, “We’re against hungry children, our record stands tall, but there’s just as much hunger here at home.” Like a slick haired preacher, sometimes Prince spoke in parables and sometimes he just told the world directly what was on his mind.

Coming less than a year after Purple Rain and three months after the infamous incident, Prince released Around the World in a Day on April 22. Whereas most megastars who’d reached the mountaintop of pop would have made the follow-up to the biggest record of their career more of a celebration, Around the World in a Day was put out quietly. The equivalent of today’s surprise releases as practiced by Beyonce and D’Angelo, the much anticipated album was simply shipped to record stores without much promotion, no singles or videos.

“Prince has always done things his own way,” New York Times staffer and former Spin magazine editor John Leland says. “He has always done things his own way, so the real fans knew that whatever Around the World in a Day sounded like, it wasn’t going to be Lavender Rain.”

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Reply #1 posted 04/22/15 7:40am

HatrinaHaterwi
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Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #2 posted 04/22/15 7:54am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief

In all honesty though, are we even surprised at this point in the game? I feel like I can't be disappointed because I've adjusted my expecatations accordingly.

If Prince wants my money, he'll do something to get it pimp

A robin sings a masterpiece that lives and dies unheard...
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Reply #3 posted 04/22/15 8:57am

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Averett said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief

In all honesty though, are we even surprised at this point in the game? I feel like I can't be disappointed because I've adjusted my expecatations accordingly.

If Prince wants my money, he'll do something to get it pimp

Believe me, I'm not hardly surprised nor disappointed. I was merely stating the obvious. lol

Personally, I feel the exact same way you do. highfive

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #4 posted 04/22/15 9:20am

feeluupp

Is he one of the only artists that never produces a deluxe or remaster of his albums for his fans??

I mean this is stupid... 1999, Purple Rain... Still no deluxe editions over 30 years after...

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Reply #5 posted 04/22/15 9:38am

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This era had the best extended mixes. smile

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #6 posted 04/22/15 10:34am

RodeoSchro

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief



But look at Prince today:

-$250 million in the bank
-Owns his masters
-Can record and release music any time, any way he wants
-Can tour any time, anywhere he wants and sell out almsot any venue
-Commands top dollar for concert performances
-Is considered the coolest celebrity on the planet - by pretty much all the other celebrities

Today, there isn't anything Prince can't do. There isn't anywhere he can't play. He can absolutely whatever he wants, whenever he wants, how ever he wants.

So did he really "squander" something 30 years ago? How much better off today do you think Prince could possibly be?

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Reply #7 posted 04/22/15 10:46am

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My noon rendezvous with this album has never ended

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Reply #8 posted 04/22/15 10:49am

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RodeoSchro said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief



But look at Prince today:

-$250 million in the bank
-Owns his masters
-Can record and release music any time, any way he wants
-Can tour any time, anywhere he wants and sell out almsot any venue
-Commands top dollar for concert performances
-Is considered the coolest celebrity on the planet - by pretty much all the other celebrities

Today, there isn't anything Prince can't do. There isn't anywhere he can't play. He can absolutely whatever he wants, whenever he wants, how ever he wants.

So did he really "squander" something 30 years ago? How much better off today do you think Prince could possibly be?

1. There is no way of confirming how much money Prince actually has. How much he's worth or how much he's made in his career is not indication of that either.

2. Not much point in owning your masters if your'e doing about as much with them as you did when you didn't own them...

3. He's been able to record anytime he's wanted for at least 25 years now.

4. George Michael charges about as much. I'm pretty sure Cher does as well.

5. What about by the public? No.

Prince can't record a hit. Any the only reason he does whatever he wants is becase he surrounds himself with asskissers and people who don't say no.... for a while.

Always cry 4 love, never cry 4 pain.
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Reply #9 posted 04/22/15 11:17am

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bluegangsta said:

This era had the best extended mixes. smile

Fully agree!!! biggrin

-Hello, Girl, America (Extended version)....

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #10 posted 04/22/15 11:24am

alandail

what was squandered? Are we talking about a 30th annaversary remaster? Or is there a suggestion that something was squanderd with the Around the World in a Day release itself? I always thought not doing Purple Rain 2.0 was brilliant on Prince's part. It would have been too easy to release Purple Rain 2.0. But going down that path doesn't lead to Sign O the Times and much of his other successful post Purple Rain releases. When you get caught in a phenomina like Purple Rain/Saturday Night Fever/Thriller, it's a long term mistake to follow it up with more of the same.

Until his WB fued, Prince was quite remarkable in his ability to continue to have hit records with songs that sounded nothing alike, even overcoming ones in between that bombed. A then record 15 straight years of top 10 hits with some number 1s scattered in there. I'm not sure he pulls that off if he releases Purple Rain 2.0.

If we're just talking about remasters, I'm not sure why remasters have to be done on anniversaries. Some of his albums could really benefit from that.

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Reply #11 posted 04/22/15 11:32am

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alandail said:

what was squandered? Are we talking about a 30th annaversary remaster? Or is there a suggestion that something was squanderd with the Around the World in a Day release itself? I always thought not doing Purple Rain 2.0 was brilliant on Prince's part. It would have been too easy to release Purple Rain 2.0. But going down that path doesn't lead to Sign O the Times and much of his other successful post Purple Rain releases. When you get caught in a phenomina like Purple Rain/Saturday Night Fever/Thriller, it's a long term mistake to follow it up with more of the same.

Until his WB fued, Prince was quite remarkable in his ability to continue to have hit records with songs that sounded nothing alike, even overcoming ones in between that bombed. A then record 15 straight years of top 10 hits with some number 1s scattered in there. I'm not sure he pulls that off if he releases Purple Rain 2.0.

If we're just talking about remasters, I'm not sure why remasters have to be done on anniversaries. Some of his albums could really benefit from that.

If Prince did not have to do the Purple Rain World Tour, and if he didn't allow the 'need to duplicate the movie performance' he might have continued with a different direction:Purple Rain 2.0

a lot of band members were saying it was that 'rigid' format that sorta killed it for Prince.

But I just think he did plan it well. The later run of shows, had more people guesting:Susannah Eric Leeds Jerome, Wally & Gregory, Sheila E, Eddie M, Susy and Sheila E's brother, as well as Apollonia 6

There is a lot more that could have been done with the show where he gave them Purple Rain but with a lot of twists

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Reply #12 posted 04/22/15 11:39am

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RodeoSchro said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief



But look at Prince today:

-$250 million in the bank
-Owns his masters
-Can record and release music any time, any way he wants
-Can tour any time, anywhere he wants and sell out almsot any venue
-Commands top dollar for concert performances
-Is considered the coolest celebrity on the planet - by pretty much all the other celebrities

Today, there isn't anything Prince can't do. There isn't anywhere he can't play. He can absolutely whatever he wants, whenever he wants, how ever he wants.

So did he really "squander" something 30 years ago? How much better off today do you think Prince could possibly be?

1. You've got access to Prince's bank records? eek He really needs a class on password protection. razz

2. Big whoop, if all he's going to do with them is let them turn to dust.

3. Hasn't that been the case since 1996?

4. True but with the exception of Musicology - not on the strength of anything he's recorded in the last 15 - 20 years.

5. So does Jay Z and Beyonce. Big whoop.

6. Yes, all those after the Oscars and Grammys parties certainly paid off. Sincerly, kudos to him on that.

My comment wasn't about 30 years ago. My comment was about today and his letting yet another the 30 year anniversary fade in the wind without capitalizing on it. shrug

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Reply #13 posted 04/22/15 11:44am

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Ramzoo said:

bluegangsta said:

This era had the best extended mixes. smile

Fully agree!!! biggrin

-Hello, Girl, America (Extended version)....

Paisley Park, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, She's Always In My Hair

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Reply #14 posted 04/22/15 11:49am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Ramzoo said:

Fully agree!!! biggrin

-Hello, Girl, America (Extended version)....

Paisley Park, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, She's Always In My Hair

I'm still holding out for a Tambourine 12" extended dance mix release... It could happen blackeye

[Edited 4/22/15 11:50am]

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Reply #15 posted 04/22/15 11:54am

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Averett said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Paisley Park, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, She's Always In My Hair

I'm still holding out for a Tambourine 12" extended dance mix release... It could happen blackeye

[Edited 4/22/15 11:50am]

Around the time period, I would not be suprised if there is one

And I enjoy the other 2 ATWIAD alternate songs, the 1 with the bass line

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Reply #16 posted 04/22/15 12:53pm

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Averett said: OldFriends4Sale said: Paisley Park, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, She's Always In My Hair I'm still holding out for a Tambourine 12" extended dance mix release... It could happen blackeye [Edited 4/22/15 11:50am] Of course "..." was meant 4 that!
"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #17 posted 04/22/15 3:21pm

luvsexy4all

RodeoSchro said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Yet another golden opportunity, left to fade in the wind. disbelief



But look at Prince today:

-$250 million in the bank
-Owns his masters
-Can record and release music any time, any way he wants
-Can tour any time, anywhere he wants and sell out almsot any venue
-Commands top dollar for concert performances
-Is considered the coolest celebrity on the planet - by pretty much all the other celebrities

Today, there isn't anything Prince can't do. There isn't anywhere he can't play. He can absolutely whatever he wants, whenever he wants, how ever he wants.

So did he really "squander" something 30 years ago? How much better off today do you think Prince could possibly be?

only thing that could be " better" is more releases...

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Reply #18 posted 04/22/15 6:07pm

S3V3N

I dunno. There's something about those everything and the kitchen sink anniversary editions that kind of robs something from their original moment in time. ATWIAD is classic in its exact form.
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Reply #19 posted 04/22/15 6:45pm

CharismaDove

A beautiful, vibrant, colorful record I love so much. I remember hating it upon first listen.. it made no sense and sounded weird and annoying in comparison to Purple Rain. Now I realize it was an amazing move, it was just so different from PR (not even just musically) that's it hard to compare the two so I end up loving both for their differences. If he released a similar album (aka Lavender Rain) then I would judge the latter much more harshly.. I think ATWIAD's difference from PR saves it being the follow-up to the biggest album of all time (in Princeland).

Love the era, the psychedelia, everything. I love mixing it with The Family and playing cool

Maybe eye do, just not like eye did before pimp2
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Reply #20 posted 04/22/15 8:00pm

SoulAlive

RodeoSchro said:

-Owns his masters

I really don't see why he went through all that trouble to get his master recordings,if he's not even gonna do anything with 'em confuse and as someone pointed out in another thread,Warner Bros. still owns the licensing rights to these albums.

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Reply #21 posted 04/23/15 12:07am

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As has been said many times before, Prince clearly doesn't give a fuck about his fans. All he has to do is hand over the keys to someone at WB or any major label exec or whomever wants to release Prince's shit and let them go nutz with it. Prince doesn't even need to get personally involved.

Just sign off on some remasters/vault stuff and keep releasing shit every year and Prince will be to recoup a little. But no he can't be fucked because he's a bitch LOL and as has also already been said on here, nothing really sells big anymore so he is fucked now LOL if he thought he could get any sort of good change with the masters he now has.

Again, let some others guys go through the vault. He doesn't need to get involved but nah, just sit on it and be a lil' bitch. Dude's in his 50's now and he still cares about youtube and taking shit down.

That proves he does care about his career, yet he still shits on his fans?

OK rant over LOL.

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Reply #22 posted 04/23/15 6:15am

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RodeoSchro said:

-$250 million in the bank

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Bullshit.

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-Can record and release music any time, any way he wants

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Really? The Kobalt deal went nowhere, he was shopping the 3EG record around in early 2014 and that went nowhere, and then he had to whine all Summer to get WBR to release the 3EG record.

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-Can tour any time, anywhere he wants and sell out almsot any venue

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Except for the numerous times that he didn't. Remember the disastrous 3EG club tour where they had to cut ticket prices in half and still had hundreds left they ultimately gave away? "21 nights in LA"?

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He can absolutely whatever he wants, whenever he wants, how ever he wants.

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No he can't, as established above.

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So did he really "squander" something 30 years ago? How much better off today do you think Prince could possibly be?

.

Really? You look at Prince's career and you claim "well that went as well as could be hoped"?

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Reply #23 posted 04/23/15 6:22am

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CharismaDove said:

A beautiful, vibrant, colorful record I love so much. I remember hating it upon first listen.. it made no sense and sounded weird and annoying in comparison to Purple Rain. Now I realize it was an amazing move, it was just so different from PR (not even just musically) that's it hard to compare the two so I end up loving both for their differences. If he released a similar album (aka Lavender Rain) then I would judge the latter much more harshly.. I think ATWIAD's difference from PR saves it being the follow-up to the biggest album of all time (in Princeland).

Love the era, the psychedelia, everything. I love mixing it with The Family and playing cool

Do you mix them in together?

Can you share a playlist?

I can listen 2 an ATWIAD playlist of all the songs all the time

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Reply #24 posted 04/23/15 6:44am

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One of my favorite albums of all time. A timeless masterpiece.

I wonder how things would´ve turned out if he had dedicated a bit more time to this project instead of making another movie.

Almost no real promo videos, no tour, no concept (though it is kind of a concept album, isn´t it? ).

Like Sign of the Times, this one could´ve benefitted greatly from a tour, more videos and more promotion in general.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #25 posted 04/23/15 9:44am

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I will always love this album. It just screams spring for me. I have such great memories from when it came out...I drove my friends nuts playing it so much back then. I still listen to it regularly. Love the b-sides, the extended versions, the videos (America is my fave video of all time from him...crazy energy on that one). cool cool cool Beautiful music to this guys ears!

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Reply #26 posted 04/23/15 4:31pm

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Reply #27 posted 04/23/15 4:34pm

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Poplife88 said:

I will always love this album. It just screams spring for me. I have such great memories from when it came out...I drove my friends nuts playing it so much back then. I still listen to it regularly. Love the b-sides, the extended versions, the videos (America is my fave video of all time from him...crazy energy on that one). cool cool cool Beautiful music to this guys ears!

That is interesting, I feel Spring as well

Parade =Spring

Purple Rain = Summer

SOTT = Autumn

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Reply #28 posted 04/23/15 4:37pm

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KoolEaze said:

One of my favorite albums of all time. A timeless masterpiece.


I wonder how things would´ve turned out if he had dedicated a bit more time to this project instead of making another movie.


Almost no real promo videos, no tour, no concept (though it is kind of a concept album, isn´t it? ).


Like Sign of the Times, this one could´ve benefitted greatly from a tour, more videos and more promotion in general.



I wouldn't trade Under The Cherry Moon (film) for a different version of Around The World In A Day (album). No way!
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Reply #29 posted 04/23/15 5:23pm

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iZsaZsa said:

KoolEaze said:

One of my favorite albums of all time. A timeless masterpiece.

I wonder how things would´ve turned out if he had dedicated a bit more time to this project instead of making another movie.

Almost no real promo videos, no tour, no concept (though it is kind of a concept album, isn´t it? ).

Like Sign of the Times, this one could´ve benefitted greatly from a tour, more videos and more promotion in general.

I wouldn't trade Under The Cherry Moon (film) for a different version of Around The World In A Day (album). No way! [Edited 4/23/15 16:38pm]

lol what IF he put in the promo time, because I too felt with such a change in style he needed to promo this from dark drunken bars performing Tempation to classical halls of Europe & New York City performing Condition of the Heart with full band singers and orchestra

Videos videos videoS Paisley Park, Hello, Pop Life

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oh sorry I drifted...

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What IF he put in the promo time with ATWIAD and then slowed down just a bit to complete a more 'colorful' Under the Cherry Moon, -which means there should have been band performance and proteges throught the movie, and the original director left to do the job?

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I think both albums could have been taken to higher plateau as well as the movie.

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