luvsexy4all said:

just rerelase it with a dvd of the video album

^ sorry I don't understand this,

There is an Emancipation video album... what's that?

thedance said:

luvsexy4all said:

just rerelase it with a dvd of the video album

^ sorry I don't understand this,

There is an Emancipation video album... what's that?

Co-sign. I didn't get it either. Release what?

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There were more than a few potential singles that could haved propped this album up. I made a lot of Prince fans by lending them copies of Emancipation. I liked that, for once, he just dumped the entire mess on us over 3 records and let us pick and choose what styles we liked instead of making me sit throuhg three ballads, three rock songs, three pop tracks and one weird one.

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Disc 2 is rather beautiful and very heart felt and vulnerable. ""Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife"", "Dreamin About U", "Sex in the Summer", "Soul Sanctuary" and "Curious Child" all stand the test of time.

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Disc 3 has some pretty cool bottom end funk on it. "Slave", "Face Down" and the title track. I love the cover of "One of Us".

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Disc 1 is the weakest but "Right Back Here in mY Arms", "White Mansion", " Somebody's Somebody" and "I Can't Make U Love Me" are fine. "In This Bed I Scream" is an all time sleeper track.

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Boil it down and it's a good double album. I wish he'd give us another song dump like this again, just so I can pick the fruit I enjoy and leave the rest on the branch. Maybe that's why I enjoyed PE/AOA so much.

Phillipg said:

I don't believe so, it do go double platinum IIRC. He had a very successful tour shortly after the album, it did receive some very favorable reviews and I would think it was some of his most approachable music to the masses in years (potentially regaining some casual fans that lost interest). He also got a larger cut on the album sales.

Now I think only Prince knows what his idea of success is, but I'm pretty sure he cares about the things I mentioned. I don't remeber when but in the past ten years he mentioned how he though the true count of how many Purple Rain albums sold was off. That to me is an indication that he might not be disappointed with the album, more influenced by the success.

The intelligent answer to a dumb question.

JoshuaWho said:

Phillipg said:

I don't believe so, it do go double platinum IIRC. He had a very successful tour shortly after the album, it did receive some very favorable reviews and I would think it was some of his most approachable music to the masses in years (potentially regaining some casual fans that lost interest). He also got a larger cut on the album sales.

Now I think only Prince knows what his idea of success is, but I'm pretty sure he cares about the things I mentioned. I don't remeber when but in the past ten years he mentioned how he though the true count of how many Purple Rain albums sold was off. That to me is an indication that he might not be disappointed with the album, more influenced by the success.

The intelligent answer to a dumb question.

JoshuaWho said:

Phillipg said:

I don't believe so, it do go double platinum IIRC. He had a very successful tour shortly after the album, it did receive some very favorable reviews and I would think it was some of his most approachable music to the masses in years (potentially regaining some casual fans that lost interest). He also got a larger cut on the album sales.

Now I think only Prince knows what his idea of success is, but I'm pretty sure he cares about the things I mentioned. I don't remeber when but in the past ten years he mentioned how he though the true count of how many Purple Rain albums sold was off. That to me is an indication that he might not be disappointed with the album, more influenced by the success.

The intelligent answer to a dumb question.

So please tell me, what was so dumb about my original question?

Looove Emancipation. Friend/Lover Sister, La La Means I Love U, Right Back Here in My Arms, Golly Wow, etc..

Sleep Around definitely has that catchy Jamiroquai (hope I spelled that right) vibe and should have been a huge hit in 1996/97. Maybe even number-one

thedance said:

luvsexy4all said:

just rerelase it with a dvd of the video album

^ sorry I don't understand this,

There is an Emancipation video album... what's that?

theres videos for ALL songs

luvsexy4all said:
theres videos for ALL songs

^ do you mean there are videos to all 36 songs on Emancipation?

can you back up this with some kind of proof??

Because I have never heard that..........

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thedance said:

luvsexy4all said:
theres videos for ALL songs

^ do you mean there are videos to all 36 songs on Emancipation?

can you back up this with some kind of proof??

Because I have never heard that..........

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[Edited 3/9/15 16:50pm]

it was discussed around that time amongst fans

luvsexy4all said:

thedance said:

^ do you mean there are videos to all 36 songs on Emancipation?

can you back up this with some kind of proof??

Because I have never heard that..........

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[Edited 3/9/15 16:50pm]

it was discussed around that time amongst fans

Oh. So it must be true then. Jesus Christ, just post some facts/links or what have you and quit doing drive byes. Either that or put down your phone and stop posting and shitting up a potentially good thread. If there's video for every song on the Emancipation album then that's news to everyone.

luvsexy4all said:

thedance said:

^ do you mean there are videos to all 36 songs on Emancipation?

can you back up this with some kind of proof??

Because I have never heard that..........

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[Edited 3/9/15 16:50pm]

it was discussed around that time amongst fans

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Plenty of fans have stupid ideas. There were people who insisted a "Prince demo" exists of each track he gave to another artist, for instance.

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Also, considering that Emancipation changed in scope quite a lot (once upon a time it was going to be "54 tracks", IIRC), would there also be videos for all those other songs? Would there be a video for each version of each song (since the 60 minute running time of each disc wasn't a happy accident, so some songs must have been edited along the way)?

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BartVanHemelen said:

luvsexy4all said:

it was discussed around that time amongst fans

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Plenty of fans have stupid ideas. There were people who insisted a "Prince demo" exists of each track he gave to another artist, for instance.

Bart do not destroy my hope of a Sugarwalls or Nasty Girl Prince demo existing I would pay some serious dough to listen to that insane shit

BartVanHemelen said:

luvsexy4all said:

it was discussed around that time amongst fans

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Plenty of fans have stupid ideas. There were people who insisted a "Prince demo" exists of each track he gave to another artist, for instance.

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Also, considering that Emancipation changed in scope quite a lot (once upon a time it was going to be "54 tracks", IIRC), would there also be videos for all those other songs? Would there be a video for each version of each song (since the 60 minute running time of each disc wasn't a happy accident, so some songs must have been edited along the way)?

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yeh ..i just made it up....

BartVanHemelen said:

murph said:

Nah....studio release wise, Emancipation (given it's triple album price)

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It was sold at a vastly discounted price from the start.

false. at least not everywhere. I just checked my old Access database and the over-the-counter price I paid on Nov 20th 1996 day 1 after release at a standard record store in my homewtown was 469 ATS that is equal to 34 EUR, adapted for inflation this would be at least 45 EUR or even more today
not what I'd call a "vastly discounted price"

so I render your post BULLSHIT

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Dancelot said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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It was sold at a vastly discounted price from the start.

false. at least not everywhere. I just checked my old Access database and the over-the-counter price I paid on Nov 20th 1996 day 1 after release at a standard record store in my homewtown was 469 ATS that is equal to 34 EUR, adapted for inflation this would be at least 45 EUR or even more today
not what I'd call a "vastly discounted price"

so I render your post BULLSHIT

[Edited 3/12/15 1:17am]

It was a horribly expensive set when it came out. We can speculate all we want on the quality of the material and everything, but the truth is that the price was just too much for the casual fans.

BETCHA BY GOLLY WOW was possibly the worst choice of lead single in his carreer, along with TGRES. No wonder why EMANCIPACTION was a flop. Very bad choice of single, despite great promotion by Prince and tabloid press coverage.

I would have released FACEDOWN on 1st single with the music video which was great too, along with HOLY RIVER for pop stations.

Mr HAPPY could have been a hit too.

SuperSoulFighter said:

And later the price dropped dramatically. I've seen it on sale at € 3.

I saw the last few copies in some supermarket on sale at €1. I think that was in 2001 or 2002.

That doesn't change the fact that its chart performance had a lot to do with the original price of the release.

novabrkr said:

Dancelot said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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It was sold at a vastly discounted price from the start.

false. at least not everywhere. I just checked my old Access database and the over-the-counter price I paid on Nov 20th 1996 day 1 after release at a standard record store in my homewtown was 469 ATS that is equal to 34 EUR, adapted for inflation this would be at least 45 EUR or even more today
not what I'd call a "vastly discounted price"

so I render your post BULLSHIT

[Edited 3/12/15 1:17am]

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I'm pretty sure it was "3 CDs for the price of 2". I think I paid BEF 1200 for it on the day of release; regular CDs were around BEF 700.

It might have been the case that it was supposed to have been three CDs for the price of two, but most stores sold it at pretty outrages prices anyway. I remember the Mellon Collie release by the Smashing Pumpkins was supposed to be two CDs for the price of one, but most stores wouldn't sell it as cheaply regardless of what the band had wanted themselves.

The death of his baby and EMI's implosion is what did this album in. Dont think I blame Prince on this one.

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In Germany, the set was sold for a full price typical of a 3-CD set in most places, at least in the beginning. I remember that I purchased the set from my local Karstadt for something like 50 DM, which would be approximately 26 €. A CD at that time often was sold for ca. 15-20 DM, so there was nothing like a discount on the set from day 1 or anything like that, at least not in my area.

26€? CDs in Germany must have been really cheap.

If I convert the amount of Finnish marks it cost back in the day that would be like 38-42€ today. A single CD would cost about 20€, and double CD releaseses 25-30€. "Midprice" and older CDs used to be about 10€ a pop. I think the prices were about the same in the UK too when I used to live there (they were often just ridiculous in London).

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BartVanHemelen said:

Dancelot said:

false. at least not everywhere. I just checked my old Access database and the over-the-counter price I paid on Nov 20th 1996 day 1 after release at a standard record store in my homewtown was 469 ATS that is equal to 34 EUR, adapted for inflation this would be at least 45 EUR or even more today
not what I'd call a "vastly discounted price"

so I render your post BULLSHIT

[Edited 3/12/15 1:17am]

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I'm pretty sure it was "3 CDs for the price of 2". I think I paid BEF 1200 for it on the day of release; regular CDs were around BEF 700.

It was $24 bucks when I bought it on day one--and stayed that way. Most CD's were going for around $17 or 18, so it was just pretty cheap in my experience.

EmancipationLover said:

In Germany, the set was sold for a full price typical of a 3-CD set in most places, at least in the beginning. I remember that I purchased the set from my local Karstadt for something like 50 DM, which would be approximately 26 €. A CD at that time often was sold for ca. 15-20 DM, so there was nothing like a discount on the set from day 1 or anything like that, at least not in my area.

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I seriously doubt regular CD prices were DM 15-20. Midprice CDs in Belgium were BEF 400 at that time, rougly DM 20. I know CDs were cheaper in Germany, but I doubt they were about half the price of what the average CD cost in Belgium or Holland, considering they'd likely come from the same factories.

Have you guys nothting better to talk about than the recollected price of Emancipation from way back when? I mean come on. What a waste of intelligence. Alot of you hear on this thread are extremely bright and well informed when it comes to Prince and his music. That's why I visit this forum. This thread was about one of his most personal albums and his enthusiam and it's supposed lack of success. Forget the price of the CD back in 1996/7. Let focus on the music again.

vinaysfunk said:

Have you guys nothting better to talk about than the recollected price of Emancipation from way back when? I mean come on. What a waste of intelligence. Alot of you hear on this thread are extremely bright and well informed when it comes to Prince and his music. That's why I visit this forum. This thread was about one of his most personal albums and his enthusiam and it's supposed lack of success. Forget the price of the CD back in 1996/7. Let focus on the music again.