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Thread started 12/07/14 4:51pm

berlinas2k

Funknroll question

The AOA version of Funknroll is growing on me very slowly. I apologize if this is a well documented topic but what was Prince's actual involvement in this version of the song, particularly the ending? I realize it's Josh's creation but did P have a hand in it? Either way, I like this part of the song and wouldn't have minded if they had stretched it out a bit.
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Reply #1 posted 12/07/14 5:34pm

Se7en

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I prefer the AOA version. Nobody but die-hard fans will care who the producer is. I never listened to Thriller thinking "man Quincy Jones is great".

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Reply #2 posted 12/07/14 6:07pm

berlinas2k

Well, I ask because I am interested in who is responsible for the sound. I guess I'd like the song more if Prince was capable of making such "modern" sounds. It's nothing groundbreaking or earth shattering but it's so different for him. I could care less who the producer is but being able to recognize the influence a producer has on an artists sound does not make you a die hard.
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Reply #3 posted 12/07/14 6:29pm

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Not that this is an answer, but towards the end of the song I believe it's Josh who says 'Ouch' which could mean that was his little signature there, I dunno. Other people have also said that it may be Josh is AOC saying 'We need you to tell us what you know' then Prince replies in a mocking tone

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I think Josh had some influences for sure, but while some really hate on 20ten here, I hear 20ten throughout AOA, especially in AOC, Clouds, Uknow, FUnknROll, to me it's almost a continuation of the 'dirty new sound' he's singing in Laydown. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what my ears tell me. Did Prince & Josh know each other back then, had they been working together?

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Reply #4 posted 12/07/14 7:18pm

warewolf95

Serious and stupid question - the version of FNR on AOA is different than the one on PLE?

I just thought it was a case of Prince being Prince and deciding to have the track on both cuz he can can, well, he's Prince and would probably do something like that, lol.

So, I deleted it from PLE cuz I thought it was the same as on AOA.

What's the difference/s between the two????

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Reply #5 posted 12/07/14 7:29pm

lust

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warewolf95 said:

Serious and stupid question - the version of FNR on AOA is different than the one on PLE?



I just thought it was a case of Prince being Prince and deciding to have the track on both cuz he can can, well, he's Prince and would probably do something like that, lol.



So, I deleted it from PLE cuz I thought it was the same as on AOA.



What's the difference/s between the two????





The song is on PE. Then there is a lame remix on AOA that should have been on a remix Ep of funk n roll if there was one and called the fnr Sherm stick edit or something naff like that. It would be like replacing cream on symbol with things have gotta change. An utterly bizarre inclusion on AOA.
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Reply #6 posted 12/07/14 7:31pm

wonder505

All I know is that the second part of this song when he turns it up kicks my ass everytime. music

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Reply #7 posted 12/07/14 7:40pm

berlinas2k

wonder505 said:

All I know is that the second part of this song when he turns it up kicks my ass everytime. music



Exactly! A song that could benefit from the old 12" extended version treatment smile
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Reply #8 posted 12/07/14 8:08pm

breakdown2k14

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I've played both versions of funknroll to friends of mine and ALL said they liked the art official age version better.
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Reply #9 posted 12/07/14 11:28pm

novabrkr

The AOA version is a remix by Joshua Welton. As far as I can tell by just listening to the track itself it has no real involvement by Prince - other than what he had recorded for the original version for PE and what Welton has used for the release. Most of the instrumental parts from the original have been left out, cut into shorter segments or appropriated in a rather minimal manner by Welton using synths / drum machines / computer software.


There's no official confirmation on the track's nature, but Welton did call it a Joshuaworld remix in his Twitter feed before the album was released. The synth and drum sounds used for the track are pretty much the same as what he's used for all the other stuff he's done for Prince and whatever stuff of his own he's put out in the public before.


Oh yeah, and I don't like it at all myself and it sounds just weird on the album, but that wasn't the question.

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Reply #10 posted 12/07/14 11:52pm

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The PE version is way better. I love it
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Reply #11 posted 12/08/14 2:50am

berlinas2k

Thanks, novabrkr. You've confirmed my suspicion. And while I do agree that it sounds out of place on AOA, I do like it for some reason.
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Reply #12 posted 12/08/14 4:39am

S3V3N

Heard the AOA version first, but after PE version it became definitive. The home stretch of the AOA version causes whiplash and kicks major butt.

WHERE IS THE EXTENDED VERSION!?

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Reply #13 posted 12/08/14 7:31am

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berlinas2k said:

The AOA version of Funknroll is growing on me very slowly. I apologize if this is a well documented topic but what was Prince's actual involvement in this version of the song, particularly the ending? I realize it's Josh's creation but did P have a hand in it? Either way, I like this part of the song and wouldn't have minded if they had stretched it out a bit. [Edited 12/7/14 20:46pm]

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I'm not answering your question, but since so many people are providing which song they like more, here's my once cent worth. I never really liked "Funknroll" at all until the Arsenio Hal Show version, and that gave me only a slight appreciation of the song. Oddly, not only to I love the AoA version, but it actually allowed me to see the beauty of the PlecElec or original version, which is odd for me because I generally hate the concept of "remixing." For my money, if you do it right the first time, you don't need a remix. Yet, I also like the original version of "RocknRoll Love Affair" and the remix equally because they sound so different, being a different experience, which is true, for me, with the versions of AoA. And, I don't think I'll be bummed if I discover that the AoA version is all Josh because two of my favorite Prince songs are "Party Up," which was co-written by Morris Day, and "Colonized Mind," which is a rip-off of "Quit It," but the haunting guitar playing is phenomenal.

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Reply #14 posted 12/08/14 7:41am

warewolf95

novabrkr said:

The AOA version is a remix by Joshua Welton. As far as I can tell by just listening to the track itself it has no real involvement by Prince - other than what he had recorded for the original version for PE and what Welton has used for the release. Most of the instrumental parts from the original have been left out, cut into shorter segments or appropriated in a rather minimal manner by Welton using synths / drum machines / computer software.


There's no official confirmation on the track's nature, but Welton did call it a Joshuaworld remix in his Twitter feed before the album was released. The synth and drum sounds used for the track are pretty much the same as what he's used for all the other stuff he's done for Prince and whatever stuff of his own he's put out in the public before.


Oh yeah, and I don't like it at all myself and it sounds just weird on the album, but that wasn't the question.

[Edited 12/7/14 23:52pm]

He should've just listed it as (Bonus track, remix) etc.

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Reply #15 posted 12/08/14 4:01pm

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PE version: i think the beginning is a bit abrupt with that wierd voice "ear-iiiit" ? then that boring droning riff.i like the main song though, just dislike the beginning and the "riff intro/interludes". I love the fade ending though when you get to hear a bit of Prince vamping in a more demo-ish version.

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Reply #16 posted 12/09/14 11:21am

Noodled24

I think Prince must have had something to do with the AOA Version. There are some synths in there that sound like a direct nod to "Get Loose". It could be of course it could just be Josh showing he knows Prince's music history.

It's too bad the AOA version takes so long to get going and once it does.. it ends about a minute later.

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