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Purple Rain: “A love letter to Minneapolis”

http://historyapolis.com/...nneapolis/

Published July 29, 2014July 29, 2014

The premiere of the film, “Purple Rain,” thirty years ago was a major cultural milestone for Minneapolis. Listen here to this wonderful conversation between Minneapolis native Michele Norris and National Public Radio television correspondent Eric Deggans about the film–and its legacy for music, the city and the world. Norris–who is related to musician Mark Brown–calls the film “a love letter to Minneapolis.”

This image–by local photographer Charles Chamblis, who chronicled the African-American community in Minneapolis during the years dominated by the “Minneapolis Sound”–may show Prince delivering a far more intimate “love letter” to the part of the city that nurtured him when he was most vulnerable. The photograph–from the collections of the Minnesota Historical Society–shows Prince playing in 1985 at a street festival sponsored by Phyllis Wheatley House, the North Side settlement house that has nurtured generations of young people and served as a safe haven in the city for African-American visitors. Taken one year after the release of the film that made him internationally famous, this photograph illuminates the North Side roots of the man most associated in the public imagination with First Avenue downtown.

With this performance, Prince was following the footsteps of musical legends. Established in 1924, the Phyllis Wheatley House moved into a new building in 1929 that included 18 bedrooms for travelers.While Prince was a native son of the North Side, the Wheatley House played host to visiting luminaries like singers Paul Robeson and Marian Anderson, who could not finding lodging in downtown Minneapolis during the Jim Crow years. All of these singers repaid the hospitality they enjoyed at the Wheatley House by sharing their music with the families connected to this critical North Side community institution.

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Reply #1 posted 12/02/14 8:04am

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This photo looks like from the Dirty Mind era

I'm trying to find more information on it and this performance

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Reply #2 posted 12/02/14 8:58am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

This photo looks like from the Dirty Mind era

I'm trying to find more information on it and this performance

Agreed. In 1985, Prince would've needed a ton of security playing a street festival.

(in 1999, he played Minneapolis' Mill City Festival outdoors to over 20,000 fans and had a shitload of security...great show too smile

"Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham
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Reply #3 posted 12/02/14 9:14am

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Wasn't there a rumor about some 30th Anniversary cd release?

Stop the Prince Apologists ™
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Reply #4 posted 12/02/14 11:01am

1725topp

OldFriends4Sale said:

This photo looks like from the Dirty Mind era

I'm trying to find more information on it and this performance

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Yeah, I agree with you that it looks more like a photo from 1980 or so. But, it's still cool to know that Prince performed where Civil Rights and entertainment icons Paul Robeson and Marian Anderson performed and in a placed name for a major African/African-American poet, Phyllis Wheatley. While it would probably piss off most of the org, I'd love to hear Prince write a song about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley. Very cool pic indeed.

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Reply #5 posted 12/02/14 11:15am

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1725topp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This photo looks like from the Dirty Mind era

I'm trying to find more information on it and this performance

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Yeah, I agree with you that it looks more like a photo from 1980 or so. But, it's still cool to know that Prince performed where Civil Rights and entertainment icons Paul Robeson and Marian Anderson performed and in a placed name for a major African/African-American poet, Phyllis Wheatley. While it would probably piss off most of the org, I'd love to hear Prince write a song about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley. Very cool pic indeed.

Yes it is cool

Those early years had so much happening, that we are still finding out about shows.

Prince fans are trying to compile more information on the 1977-1980 years

It would be a cool song, if he did it something like the Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Old Friends 4 Sale, Condition of the Heart, and had Wendy cowrite it.

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Reply #6 posted 12/02/14 11:24am

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He's playing the Yamaha CP80 (or 70) electric piano in the photo. I think that's something he started doing a little bit later than the DM era.


What's the earliest tour we have footage of him playing keyboards on stage anyway?

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Reply #7 posted 12/02/14 11:31am

OldFriends4Sal
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he looks/is dressed the same here

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Reply #8 posted 12/02/14 11:40am

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novabrkr said:

He's playing the Yamaha CP80 (or 70) electric piano in the photo. I think that's something he started doing a little bit later than the DM era.


What's the earliest tour we have footage of him playing keyboards on stage anyway?

I believe the earliest that I have at least image -wise is the Controversy era.
I don't remember him playing keyboard or piano prior. At least as far as photos

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Reply #9 posted 12/02/14 11:47am

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Yep, judging by his hair it's the Dirty Mind period. His hair started to look like the Purple Rain style from Controversy/1999...

OldFriends4Sale said:


This photo looks like from the Dirty Mind era


I'm trying to find more information on it and this performance


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Reply #10 posted 12/02/14 12:52pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



1725topp said:




OldFriends4Sale said:



This photo looks like from the Dirty Mind era


I'm trying to find more information on it and this performance




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Yeah, I agree with you that it looks more like a photo from 1980 or so. But, it's still cool to know that Prince performed where Civil Rights and entertainment icons Paul Robeson and Marian Anderson performed and in a placed name for a major African/African-American poet, Phyllis Wheatley. While it would probably piss off most of the org, I'd love to hear Prince write a song about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley. Very cool pic indeed.




Yes it is cool


Those early years had so much happening, that we are still finding out about shows.


Prince fans are trying to compile more information on the 1977-1980 years


It would be a cool song, if he did it something like the Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Old Friends 4 Sale, Condition of the Heart, and had Wendy cowrite it.


Why?

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Reply #11 posted 12/02/14 1:10pm

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iZsaZsa said:
OldFriends4Sale said:
Yes it is cool
Those early years had so much happening, that we are still finding out about shows.
Prince fans are trying to compile more information on the 1977-1980 years
It would be a cool song, if he did it something like the Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Old Friends 4 Sale, Condition of the Heart, and had Wendy cowrite it.
Why?
I don't think his 'poetry' is as good as it was.
Mostly I was just messing around though
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Reply #12 posted 12/02/14 1:24pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



Yes it is cool

Those early years had so much happening, that we are still finding out about shows.

Prince fans are trying to compile more information on the 1977-1980 years

It would be a cool song, if he did it something like the Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Old Friends 4 Sale, Condition of the Heart, and had Wendy cowrite it.


Why?


I don't think his 'poetry' is as good as it was.

Mostly I was just messing around though

You should ban yourself for a week!
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Reply #13 posted 12/02/14 1:25pm

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J/k. smile
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Reply #14 posted 12/02/14 1:29pm

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iZsaZsa said:

J/k. smile

lol truthfully I don't think Prince really writes deep on subjects like those people.

He might not even know much about them. Like he didn't know who Dorothy Parker was while he was using her name, until Susannah educated him on her. Even though that song isn't directly about her.

Dreamer is good music but the lyrics don't reveal much.

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Reply #15 posted 12/02/14 2:01pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

iZsaZsa said:

J/k. smile

lol truthfully I don't think Prince really writes deep on subjects like those people.

He might not even know much about them. Like he didn't know who Dorothy Parker was while he was using her name, until Susannah educated him on her. Even though that song isn't directly about her.

Dreamer is good music but the lyrics don't reveal much.

What do you mean Dreamer lyrics don't reveal much?

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Reply #16 posted 12/02/14 2:21pm

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Astasheiks said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol truthfully I don't think Prince really writes deep on subjects like those people.

He might not even know much about them. Like he didn't know who Dorothy Parker was while he was using her name, until Susannah educated him on her. Even though that song isn't directly about her.

Dreamer is good music but the lyrics don't reveal much.

What do you mean Dreamer lyrics don't reveal much?

Good song, but I don't think the lyrics said much from what I've heard from Prince in his songs about 'politics/race'

I think of Prince doing Old Friends 4 Sale 85 and the the 1990s version

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Reply #17 posted 12/02/14 5:03pm

1725topp

OldFriends4Sale said:

1725topp said:

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Yeah, I agree with you that it looks more like a photo from 1980 or so. But, it's still cool to know that Prince performed where Civil Rights and entertainment icons Paul Robeson and Marian Anderson performed and in a placed name for a major African/African-American poet, Phyllis Wheatley. While it would probably piss off most of the org, I'd love to hear Prince write a song about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley. Very cool pic indeed.

Yes it is cool

Those early years had so much happening, that we are still finding out about shows.

Prince fans are trying to compile more information on the 1977-1980 years

It would be a cool song, if he did it something like the Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Old Friends 4 Sale, Condition of the Heart, and had Wendy cowrite it.

*

First, I laughed when I read the part about "Wendy" because I knew that you were "partly" joking. I'll only say that I can dig personal introspection like "Old Friends 4 Sale" and forthright socio-political songs, such as "We March," "2045 Radical Man," "Dreamer," "Marz," and "Avalanche" equally. So, I think he would do a good job writing about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley because "Avalanche" is defiant, forthright, and beautiful. Yet, I also know that it's not everyone's taste. But, I don't want to shift the mood of this thread. These are great pics, and I hope more can be found about this show. Great find. Thanks!

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Reply #18 posted 12/02/14 5:12pm

Ego101

nice new pic! cool

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Reply #19 posted 12/02/14 8:43pm

blackwell1

Thanks for sharing the photo and the whole back story. Great to see the early days in the community that fueled the career and the Phyllis Wheatley House history that thereafter included Prince, too, etc. All cool.

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Reply #20 posted 12/03/14 7:41am

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1725topp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yes it is cool

Those early years had so much happening, that we are still finding out about shows.

Prince fans are trying to compile more information on the 1977-1980 years

It would be a cool song, if he did it something like the Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Old Friends 4 Sale, Condition of the Heart, and had Wendy cowrite it.

*

First, I laughed when I read the part about "Wendy" because I knew that you were "partly" joking. I'll only say that I can dig personal introspection like "Old Friends 4 Sale" and forthright socio-political songs, such as "We March," "2045 Radical Man," "Dreamer," "Marz," and "Avalanche" equally. So, I think he would do a good job writing about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley because "Avalanche" is defiant, forthright, and beautiful. Yet, I also know that it's not everyone's taste. But, I don't want to shift the mood of this thread. These are great pics, and I hope more can be found about this show. Great find. Thanks!

lol

Yes, I'm still searching. I'm going to contact the site about the photos time period. I'm going to sound like a Purple Geek.
The only time I've seen Prince in that style dress was during the Dirty Mind years especially during the Fire It Up Tour w/Rick James

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Reply #21 posted 12/03/14 8:06am

OldFriends4Sal
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here is a similar picture with him in 'suite' and tie photographed by Lisa Coleman.

I think this performance is somewhere later Dirty Mind era - early Controversy era

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Reply #22 posted 12/03/14 8:54am

iZsaZsa

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OldFriends4Sale said:

here is a similar picture with him in 'suite' and tie photographed by Lisa Coleman.


I think this performance is somewhere later Dirty Mind era - early Controversy era




Everytime I see this picture now he's looking like he wants a sandwich.
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Reply #23 posted 12/04/14 6:35am

1725topp

OldFriends4Sale said:

1725topp said:

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First, I laughed when I read the part about "Wendy" because I knew that you were "partly" joking. I'll only say that I can dig personal introspection like "Old Friends 4 Sale" and forthright socio-political songs, such as "We March," "2045 Radical Man," "Dreamer," "Marz," and "Avalanche" equally. So, I think he would do a good job writing about Robeson, Anderson, and Wheatley because "Avalanche" is defiant, forthright, and beautiful. Yet, I also know that it's not everyone's taste. But, I don't want to shift the mood of this thread. These are great pics, and I hope more can be found about this show. Great find. Thanks!

lol

Yes, I'm still searching. I'm going to contact the site about the photos time period. I'm going to sound like a Purple Geek.
The only time I've seen Prince in that style dress was during the Dirty Mind years especially during the Fire It Up Tour w/Rick James

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Purple Geeks rule...Don't ever 4get dat!!!

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Reply #24 posted 12/04/14 1:03pm

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1725topp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol

Yes, I'm still searching. I'm going to contact the site about the photos time period. I'm going to sound like a Purple Geek.
The only time I've seen Prince in that style dress was during the Dirty Mind years especially during the Fire It Up Tour w/Rick James

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Purple Geeks rule...Don't ever 4get dat!!!

lol yes we do

Here is another picture that looks like the same time period as the one in question. late Dirty Mind period

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Reply #25 posted 12/05/14 1:11am

iZsaZsa

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Reply #26 posted 12/05/14 10:36am

jaawwnn

OldFriends4Sale said:



1725topp said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




lol


Yes, I'm still searching. I'm going to contact the site about the photos time period. I'm going to sound like a Purple Geek.
The only time I've seen Prince in that style dress was during the Dirty Mind years especially during the Fire It Up Tour w/Rick James





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Purple Geeks rule...Don't ever 4get dat!!!





lol yes we do



Here is another picture that looks like the same time period as the one in question. late Dirty Mind period








Is that not Gayle Chapman on keys in that second pic?
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Reply #27 posted 12/05/14 10:39am

jaawwnn

Ah no, I had a quick look at pictures of lisa in 1980/1 and her hair was that colour. Never mind so!
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Reply #28 posted 12/05/14 11:31am

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jaawwnn said:

Ah no, I had a quick look at pictures of lisa in 1980/1 and her hair was that colour. Never mind so!

actually I'm wrong I think

I those other pics that is Gayle Chapman

right at the end of the Prince album era going into Dirty Mind when lisa joined

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Reply #29 posted 01/09/15 8:39am

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novabrkr said:

He's playing the Yamaha CP80 (or 70) electric piano in the photo. I think that's something he started doing a little bit later than the DM era.


What's the earliest tour we have footage of him playing keyboards on stage anyway?

I found the picture

I believe it's from late 1980-1981

I'm guessing Controvery era since that's when we first start seeing the pants with buttons on the side

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