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the Purple Rain Kiss and the making of Albert Magnoli answers fan questions about Purple Rain.
Wendy Young: At the end of the film, when Prince sings Purple Rain, he walks over to Wendy, kisses her, and they both cry. What's the story behind that? Hello, Wendy. Prince walked over to Wendy and kissed her spontaneously. Wendy reacted in the moment. This encounter between them was not scripted. They were immersed in the story, in their music, and they acted accordingly. It was a great moment, and neither one of them was aware that they were "in the moment" until they saw the developed footage.
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Albert Magnoli answers fan questions about Purple Rain.You asked them, we sent them to Albert. Here are the questions and his answers:
Christian Irizarry-Wiesemann: I understand the album PURPLE RAIN was supposed to be a double album. Were there any drafts of the Screenplay/Shooting Script that included more music than what wound up in the final draft/final print of the movie? AM: Hello, Christian. The album was never intended to be a double album. I was able to listen to a hundred songs that Prince had written, composed and produced before I had even started writing the screenplay. Out of those 100 songs I chose 11 that defined the thematic elements necessary to enhance the story. But, we needed 12 songs to create the album. Months before preproduction began, I was in the First Ave, 7th St. Club in Minneapolis and heard Prince perform a rough version of "Purple Rain" on stage with the Revolution. After Prince finished his performance , I met him backstage and asked him what the song was titled. He said: "Purple Rain." I suggested that this was the song that should be used for the pivotal moment in the story, after he discovers his father shot in the basement. Prince agreed, and asked if the title of the song could also be the title of the picture. I said, "Yes," and the film from that moment on was called "Purple Rain."
Gary Robinson: What was the budget? How many days did you shoot? What was it like to work with so many first actors? AM: Hello, Gary. The budget was 7.2 million dollars. We shot for 42 days total. Seven of those days were shot in Los Angeles because the snow in Minneapolis was over 8 feet high.
Working with first time actors was not a problem for me. They were musicians, and they were very disciplined. The real problem was simply getting them on "film time." We started shooting at 7 am. They needed to get to bed by 10 pm. This was something they all had to get used to.
Jim Erwin: How much of the artistic control of the movie did he have to relinquish to Prince? Hello, Jim. The answer is zero. None. Prince is, and was a professional. He realized that we were making a film, and that he was an actor in the drama. He came to the set everyday with that discipline in mind.
Wendy Young: At the end of the film, when Prince sings Purple Rain, he walks over to Wendy, kisses her, and they both cry. What's the story behind that? Hello, Wendy. Prince walked over to Wendy and kissed her spontaneously. Wendy reacted in the moment. This encounter between them was not scripted. They were immersed in the story, in their music, and they acted accordingly. It was a great moment, and neither one of them was aware that they were "in the moment" until they saw the developed footage.
Wendy Young: Was Apollonia's role originally for Vanity? Yes. Apollonia's role was initially intended for Vanity, but Vanity was offered a role in Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ," and decided to accept it. Therefore, we went into production with Apollonia. Ultimately, "The Last Temptation of Christ" was delayed.
Dan Evans: How come the other bands music has never been collected, maybe on a 25th anniversary Purple rain CD? Hello, Dan. I do not know why the other bands in the film have not had their own CDs.
Latanya Ivey: Did he imagine the magnitude that the film and its soundtrack would have still today? Hello, Latanya. No one ever predicted the impact "Purple Rain" would have. Our job was to make the best film we possibly could. We were elated once it was released and embraced by the public.
Chris Utley: X-rated version: FACT OR FICTION? If FACT, will Prince let you do an unrated cut for Blu-ray/DVD? Hello, Chris. No, there was never an X-rated version. I wrote a "R-rated" script, and it became a "R-rated" film. There is no footage that would enable another version.
ArcLight: What was the best time you had on the film? "Purple Rain" was my first picture. I had graduated from USC Film School just two years earlier. Therefore, every single moment I was working on the film was a pleasure.
ArcLight: What was the worst time you had on the film (the day where you just wished you weren't there). Honestly never. Every day was a welcomed challenge. Every day allowed all of us to do our best work. We were supported by Warner Bros., and supported by the people of Minneapolis. | |
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Interesting read. Thanks. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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That's awesome. I never knew that about the kiss. | |
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I looked back through the movie script and the kiss is no where in there yeah that is a very cool piece of information, totally makes you look at the scene differently | |
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LOVE IT | |
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Prince kissed Wendy at the exact same moment in the song during the first live performance or Purple Rain for the Minnesota Dance Theater tribute show. So, it was just something he was used to doing at that point in the song for dramatic effect... | |
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Interesting factoid: This is Prince's only on screen kiss that doesn't turn the viewers stomachs. | |
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If I'm not mistakened, the kiss is TOTALLY SCRIPTED! In the 1983 show at First Ave. when Prince previewed all the PR songs, Prince kisses Wendy at the same part of the song. So as for it being "in the moment" is complete crap! Sorry to bust people's bubble if they got all warm and fuzzy. Y'all know that everything Prince does is scripted or very rarely deviates. [Edited 9/18/14 13:26pm] __________________________________________________
2 words falling between the drops and the moans of his condition | |
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probably but not according to the written script | |
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So Albert Magnoli wrote the script now, too? Don't get me wrong, he made a great film, but I swear the fish in his tales get a little larger every year... |
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What, ypu don't like Prince's soul kiss?
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 | |
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My guess is that it was something Prince had come up with for the stage show that the director wasn't expecting.
[Edited 9/18/14 23:37pm] | |
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Cool.
มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า  只有空虚 Dim ond gwacter 만 공허함이있다 唯一の虚しさがあります  There is only the void. | |
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มีเพียงความว่างเปล่า 只有空虚 Dim ond gwacter 만 공허함이있다 唯一の虚しさがあります There is only the void. | |
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It was always understood that Albert took what was in Prince's notebook followed/watched the bands and the scene and made the movie. . Directed By
They're exaggerations or minimizations developed to fit a story that never happened, yet, in a strange way, a story that is their reality. To me, Prince & the Times entire thing is visual. The microcosm they've developed 4 themselves was a movie begging to be made." There's music... that means there's night, there's bars, there are alley's. All of a sudden, a story begins to emerge. Albert Magnoli | |
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Yes, but... what about William Blinn? The screenwriter? |
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I don't get where you are coming from Where did anyone say Albert wrote the script? Did I miss something ?
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. . . [Edited 9/21/14 15:38pm] | |
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You got it! That shit was straight up kai kai!
A screenplay or script is a written work by screenwriters for a film, video game, or television program. These screenplays can be original works or adaptations from existing pieces of writing. In them, the movement, actions, expression, and dialogues of the characters are also narrated. | |
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What exactly are we arguing about here? I know what a sceenplay is. All I was saying is that Magnoli seems to be trying to take credit for writing the script, which he didn't. |
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Prince is not a screenwriter, Magnoli is. Prince technically did not write Purple Rain. He took what ideals Prince had in his notebook and put it to film, but Magnoli had to be a part of the writing of the script to get the movie where it was. Magnoli nowhere was trying to take 100% credit for the movie. But Prince was not the screenwriter nor director. If he did we probably would have got what happened to Purple Rain, because Prince wanted the 'Father' to die and a few other things, That's were Magnoli comes in.
. Purple Rain is a 1984 American rock musical drama film directed by Albert Magnoli and written by Magnoli and William Blinn. Development[edit]Prince developed the film concept during his Triple Threat tour. Initially, the script was to be darker and more coherent. Prince intended to cast Vanity, leader of the girl group Vanity 6, but she left the group before filming began. Her role was initially offered to Jennifer Beals (who turned it down because she wanted to concentrate on college) before going to Apollonia Kotero, a virtual unknown at the time. Prince had seen her appearance on the February, 1983 episode of Tales of the Gold Monkey, in which she played a saucy island girl who was sleeping with a German man of the cloth.[6] Excluding Prince and his on-screen parents, almost every character in the movie is named after the actor who plays him or her. After the character change from Vanity to Apollonia, the script was drastically revised and many dark scenes were cut. Some of these scenes include Prince and Apollonia having sex in a barn (a concept which was the story behind the 1985 song "Raspberry Beret"); Prince going to Apollonia 6's rehearsal and engaging in a physical fight with The Time members; and a scene which featured Prince's mother talking to him about her shaky relationship with his father. In addition, many scenes such as the Lake Minnetonka scene, Apollonia first meeting Morris, and the railyard scene were cut down because of time restraints. Many clips from these scenes were featured, however, in the trailer for the movie as well as the "When Doves Cry" montage. | |
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Magnoli recalls that when he and Prince met for the first time, they had an instant connection. "That night, I pitched to him my idea of what the film could be," Magnoli explains. "He liked it very much. He said, 'How is it possible within 10 minutes of us being together you can tell my life story?'" Needless to say, Magnoli got the job, and Prince gave him a whopping 100 original tracks to listen to in order to select a handful that would appear in the film, which was not yet titled. "The music had to inform the content and themes of the film," Magnoli explains. "Both things had to work in conjunction with each other. I wanted to avoid 'let's hear some music and get back to the story.'" Magnoli narrowed down the 100 tracks down to the 12 that would appear in the film. Interestingly, "Purple Rain" was not among the songs Prince initially gave him. . . . . Magnoli and screenwriter William Blinn penned the film, which was about a Minneapolis musician who used music to escape his troubled home life and abusive father. Prince starred in the title role, and it also featured his real-life band, the Revolution, along with Apollonia Kotero and the Time's Morris Day. | |
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We were always looking for the big anthem where [Prince] got onstage and essentially confessed his sins," Magnoli says. "Later he was playing at the First Avenue bar [in Minneapolis] with his band, which is where we shot the movie. He liked trying out new songs in front of a home audience. That's were he tried out 'Purple Rain.' But it wasn't called 'Purple Rain' at that time. It had no title. I said, 'I like that song,' and he said he was thinking of calling it 'Purple Rain.'" Prince then asked Magnoli if they could title the film Purple Rain, and Magnoli agreed. Magnoli and screenwriter William Blinn penned the film, which was about a Minneapolis musician who used music to escape his troubled home life and abusive father. Prince starred in the title role, and it also featured his real-life band, the Revolution, along with Apollonia Kotero and the Time's Morris Day. As Magnoli tells it, nobody had any idea Purple Rain would become so successful and spawn a soundtrack that would go on to become one of the biggest rock albums of all time, claiming the top spot on the Billboard charts for a record-breaking 24 weeks in 1984 and 1985. "Thirty years ago, we didn't know we were making a major motion picture," says Magnoli. "And working with Prince wasn't working with the Prince who became the worldwide star he became after the movie… he was still considered by most people as a fringe artist. So we went into the film believing we were making a fringe movie." They had a modest budget of a million dollars to make the film, which was very little even by 1984's standards. Then Warner Bros. came on board and kicked in an additional $7 million during preproduction, which still was not a lot in terms of movie-making. . Purple Rain ended up grossing more than $80 million at the box office and became a classic. So what was it like working with the Purple One and the Revolution? "I always felt they had a very strong work ethic, and were very disciplined," Magnoli says. "It was just a matter of bringing them from the music world into the film world. In music. you're working at night and sleeping during the day. In the movie world… you work 14-hour days that start at 6 in the morning. But working with them was a delight. They responded as professionals and never arrived on set late." Their strong work ethic paid off, and Purple Rain catapulted Prince to becoming the major superstar he is today — still going strong after more than three decades.
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Scott County Road 51 in Blakeley Township, which was usually quiet, was abounding with activity, security people and movie types thirty years ago this week for the filming of “Purple Rain.” The company of more than 50 people were busy setting up cameras and lights and trying to keep the principals of the movie warm after a love scene on the beach and a plunge into the chilly Minnesota River. The road had to be blocked off to keep spectators away. “Purple Rain” is a 1984 American rock musical drama directed by Albert Magnoli and written by Magnoli and William Blinn. In the move, Rock star Prince, who is from the Twin Cities, made his film debut and it grossed more than $80 million at the box office and became a cult classic. | |
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Purple Rain is a 1984 American rock musical drama film directed by Albert Magnoli and written by Magnoli and William Blinn, in which Prince makes his film debut.
During the 1999 Tour, Prince gathered ideas for a semi-autobiographical film script and discussed the project with manager Steve Fargnoli. After Warner Bros.' film division expressed a slight interest in the film, and Warner Bros Record chairman Mo' Ostin allowed it a substantial budget to start the production, Prince's managers approached William Blinn to write a viable screenplay. In May 1983, Blinn relocated to Minneapolis with the intention of developing more ideas for the screenplay, but collaborating with Prince appeared difficult and Blinn returned to Los Angeles where he resumed work for a script now called "Dreams". Meanwhile, in Minneapolis, Prince, The Revolution, The Time and Vanity 6 began preparations for the film project. A warehouse in St. Louis Park was rented for band rehearsals and dancing and acting classes. Actor and Director Don Amendolia was recruited by Blinn to conduct improvisational exercises and theater games. Dance workouts were conducted by John Command at the Minnesota Dance Theater in a downtown dance studio, two block away from the First Avenue. Alan Leeds, then Prince's road manager, was hired on a full time basis to organize activities in the warehouse and coordinate some of Prince's business affairs. After finishing a first script, William Blinn was informed that the television series "Fame", on which he was working as executive producer, was renewed for another season. A new director wasn't found until September 1983, when James Foley, who was approached for the film but was unavailable, suggested his editor, Albert Magnoli, whom had won a student academy award for his short film: "Jazz". After rejecting the project on account of deeming the script "very introverted and claustrophobic". Magnoli reverted his decision after meeting with Prince's management and the promise that he would be allowed to direct his own version of the film.
Pre-production for Purple Rain began on 15 September, 1983 in Minneapolis. Magnoli spent several weeks in the city to meet with the movie financiers and revised the "Dreams" script entirely to develop a new screenplay. Shooting started on 1 November, 1983 in Minneapolis.
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Oh my GOD, who said Prince is a screenwriter?
Okay, now we're getting somewhere. William Blinn was the screenwriter. Yet what I'm seeing in your quotes is that Albert Magnoli is trying to take credit for writing the film. If he wrote it, or co-wrote it, why is he not credited? |
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lol screenwriter/writer is what we are talking about. Prince did not write the movie Purple Rain. Albert Magnoli & William Blinn did. I've post about 3-4 pieces that says he co-wrote it
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