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Reply #30 posted 09/11/14 6:25am

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SoulAlive said:

She left the Prince camp in early 1989.Is she suggesting that she was broke at that point? hmmm she had to have had more money than most of the others.

From what I've read, she didn't understand during that 1984/85/86 year that she was responsible for paying everyone in her circle.

The Time sorta went thru the same thing. They probably would have made more money on a 9-5 job

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Reply #31 posted 09/11/14 6:27am

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fnksoul said:

It is quite sad though that all these Stories coming out of her book are based around Prince so shes currrently using his name to make money, Which I image wont fly too well with him.

Do they currently still speak or did they fall out?

There are only small part of her time with Prince, and it's not a bash Prince book.

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Reply #32 posted 09/11/14 6:36am

Lockwood88

OldFriends4Sale said:

fnksoul said:

It is quite sad though that all these Stories coming out of her book are based around Prince so shes currrently using his name to make money, Which I image wont fly too well with him.

Do they currently still speak or did they fall out?

There are only small part of her time with Prince, and it's not a bash Prince book.

But this a a bash Prince forum nod tease

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Reply #33 posted 09/11/14 7:01am

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fnksoul said:

It is quite sad though that all these Stories coming out of her book are based around Prince so shes currrently using his name to make money, Which I image wont fly too well with him.

Do they currently still speak or did they fall out?

hi mate, how's life. Very good point made. Lots of these artists who publish a book really only have Prince as a point of ref & despite him being a little ruthless git I actually do feel for him. She brags that SHE influenced HIM, which is fair enough & given her success before & after her time with him I find it hard to beleive she was actually left penniless. Her dad & family are all successful musicians as far as I am aware so I am sure she could have leaned on them etc. If it wasn't for Prince would she be known in the main stream?..i very much doubt it. We all have free will...she could have just quit the Lovesexy gigs regardless of Princes demands if the funeral really meant THAT much to her. Like I say , his bad behaviour towards those close is well documented BUT likewsie he does have a lot of good in him..bit like a lot of us!

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Reply #34 posted 09/11/14 7:12am

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Ace said:

Graycap23 said:

Really? Prince got $3 million for his buddy TC without him having 2 do any work.


TC?

Tevin Campbell I think.

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Reply #35 posted 09/11/14 7:14am

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Ace said:


TC?

Tevin Campbell I think.

T.C. Ellis.

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Reply #36 posted 09/11/14 7:20am

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Controversy sells. Even though most of what she wrote wasn't negative, her publishers will push anything that could be considered controversial because that's what'll make people like you all empty your wallets (just like it makes you turn on your telly to watch interviews and click on articles you might otherwise pass by).

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Change it one more time..
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Reply #37 posted 09/11/14 8:01am

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SoulAlive said:

In her book,Sheila mentions that,while on the Lovesexy Tour,her grandmother passed away and she asked Prince for a day off so she could attend the funeral.He told her no.She was so pissed that she didn't accept any paychecks for doing the remainder of the tour eek nuts

I get that she was angry,but why work for free?! eek

Are you kidding me? No one or nothing could have stopped me from attending my grandmother's funeral! What does not accepting any paychecks do, except hurting yourself? Did she not have a backbone? I would have told Prince where he could go, and attend my grandmother's funeral anyway!

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Reply #38 posted 09/11/14 8:06am

Lockwood88

1contessa said:

SoulAlive said:

In her book,Sheila mentions that,while on the Lovesexy Tour,her grandmother passed away and she asked Prince for a day off so she could attend the funeral.He told her no.She was so pissed that she didn't accept any paychecks for doing the remainder of the tour eek nuts

I get that she was angry,but why work for free?! eek

Are you kidding me? No one or nothing could have stopped me from attending my grandmother's funeral! What does not accepting any paychecks do, except hurting yourself? Did she not have a backbone? I would have told Prince where he could go, and attend my grandmother's funeral anyway!

This thumbs up! Did Prince handcuff her to the drum kit , NOOOOOOO. biggrin

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Reply #39 posted 09/11/14 8:23am

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This sounds exaggerated. I love Sheila, but if her relationship hadn't gone south with Prince in the last 2-3 years since the W2A tour, I am sure parts of this book would have a different tone.

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Reply #40 posted 09/11/14 8:28am

funksterr

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Ace said:


What would she owe him a million dollars for? confuse

Sheila said in an interview that she went out and spent a whole lotta money because she thought everything would be payed for or was somehow free. She realized she owed a million and contacted P. He payed for everything.

In her book, she says she went to work for him to pay it off herself, but in the end the fact that she owed him money, yet he was her fiance, yet he was seeing other women (Cat?) all became too much to handle. I don't remember her writing that Prince released her from the debt, but it's hard to imagine she earned that much as his drummer to repay him. More than likely Prince took care of it, but if he did, I missed that part in the book.

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Reply #41 posted 09/11/14 8:34am

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We all love Sheila but we should know by now that the ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, especially at the age she was during that time.

Looking back we wonder how somebody could possibly not be aware of the financial arrangements of their employment or their right to walk out on a gig to attend the funeral of a family member?

Thankfully she lived to become much wiser.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #42 posted 09/11/14 8:35am

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Militant said:

This sounds exaggerated. I love Sheila, but if her relationship hadn't gone south with Prince in the last 2-3 years since the W2A tour, I am sure parts of this book would have a different tone.

Nah.. She is ultra-positive toward Prince in the book. She doesn't say a bad word about him really. I know of more dirt between Sheila and Prince just from being a longtime fan, than what is in the book. The book is just surface stuff, when it comes to Prince. It's an industry insider type pf biography that gives no insight into anyone other than Sheila herself, and even that seems to be missing something. In fact she describes her reuniting with Prince as though there is no bad blood between them at all, which we know is not true, but the book portrays things as better than ever between them! biggrin

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Reply #43 posted 09/11/14 8:44am

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babynoz said:

We all love Sheila but we should know by now that the ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, especially at the age she was during that time.

Looking back we wonder how somebody could possibly not be aware of the financial arrangements of their employment or their right to walk out on a gig to attend the funeral of a family member?

Thankfully she lived to become much wiser.

That seems to say a LOT more about Prince then the women he chooses, now doesn't it?

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Reply #44 posted 09/11/14 8:47am

fnksoul

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fnksoul said:

It is quite sad though that all these Stories coming out of her book are based around Prince so shes currrently using his name to make money, Which I image wont fly too well with him.

Do they currently still speak or did they fall out?

This is Sheila's memoir. Her memories of some instances in her life. There are actually only a few chapters about her work with Prince. Honestly, she speaks glowingly of him for the most part. Prince did a couple of things that weren't right and she talks about how she felt. Just because Prince is involved in someone's life, doesn't mean they can't recollect on experiences they shared.



Im not disputing about it being about her life etc... but I mean the only parts I've seen mentioned on some places is the gossip about Prince, which is possibly a main reason soem might choose to buy/read it. smile

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Reply #45 posted 09/11/14 8:54am

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funksterr said:

Militant said:

This sounds exaggerated. I love Sheila, but if her relationship hadn't gone south with Prince in the last 2-3 years since the W2A tour, I am sure parts of this book would have a different tone.

Nah.. She is ultra-positive toward Prince in the book. She doesn't say a bad word about him really. I know of more dirt between Sheila and Prince just from being a longtime fan, than what is in the book. The book is just surface stuff, when it comes to Prince. It's an industry insider type pf biography that gives no insight into anyone other than Sheila herself, and even that seems to be missing something. In fact she describes her reuniting with Prince as though there is no bad blood between them at all, which we know is not true, but the book portrays things as better than ever between them! biggrin

Ah, OK. My bad. Looks like the exaggeration is coming from Entertainment Tonight.

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Reply #46 posted 09/11/14 8:56am

lwr001

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babynoz said:

We all love Sheila but we should know by now that the ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, especially at the age she was during that time.

Looking back we wonder how somebody could possibly not be aware of the financial arrangements of their employment or their right to walk out on a gig to attend the funeral of a family member?

Thankfully she lived to become much wiser.

That seems to say a LOT more about Prince then the women he chooses, now doesn't it?

you've seen their grades or IQ scores. If not, you can only assume, based off of entertainment, what their intellect is..

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Reply #47 posted 09/11/14 9:01am

babynoz

stillwaiting said:

babynoz said:

We all love Sheila but we should know by now that the ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, especially at the age she was during that time.

Looking back we wonder how somebody could possibly not be aware of the financial arrangements of their employment or their right to walk out on a gig to attend the funeral of a family member?

Thankfully she lived to become much wiser.

That seems to say a LOT more about Prince then the women he chooses, now doesn't it?


Actually it say a lot about the dymanic between all of them.

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Reply #48 posted 09/11/14 9:09am

babynoz

lwr001 said:

you've seen their grades or IQ scores. If not, you can only assume, based off of entertainment, what their intellect is..


Sheila gave a performance years ago alongside Yolanda Adams and others where she gave her personal testimony. Like many of us she did a lot of dumb things that she openly discussed. Like I said, she is thankfully much wiser today.

Who told you that intellect is only measured by IQ scores and grades? rolleyes

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #49 posted 09/11/14 9:13am

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SoulAlive said:

In her book,Sheila mentions that,while on the Lovesexy Tour,her grandmother passed away and she asked Prince for a day off so she could attend the funeral.He told her no.She was so pissed that she didn't accept any paychecks for doing the remainder of the tour eek nuts

I get that she was angry,but why work for free?! eek

Wouldn't they have had to cancel the show if Sheila didn't attend?

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Reply #50 posted 09/11/14 9:14am

lwr001

babynoz said:

lwr001 said:

you've seen their grades or IQ scores. If not, you can only assume, based off of entertainment, what their intellect is..


Sheila gave a performance years ago alongside Yolanda Adams and others where she gave her personal testimony. Like many of us she did a lot of dumb things that she openly discussed. Like I said, she is thankfully much wiser today.

Who told you that intellect is only measured by IQ scores and grades? rolleyes

you are the one questioning oines intellect based off of what; how close are you to them and how much time have you spent with them to make that judgement..Lets go back and look at every post you've ever made on this board or any others and see how we judge you

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Reply #51 posted 09/11/14 9:15am

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SuzyHomemaker said:

fnksoul said:

It is quite sad though that all these Stories coming out of her book are based around Prince so shes currrently using his name to make money, Which I image wont fly too well with him.

Do they currently still speak or did they fall out?

This is Sheila's memoir. Her memories of some instances in her life. There are actually only a few chapters about her work with Prince. Honestly, she speaks glowingly of him for the most part. Prince did a couple of things that weren't right and she talks about how she felt. Just because Prince is involved in someone's life, doesn't mean they can't recollect on experiences they shared.

What are some of the positive things she says about Prince?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #52 posted 09/11/14 9:15am

paulludvig

SuzyHomemaker said:

fnksoul said:

It is quite sad though that all these Stories coming out of her book are based around Prince so shes currrently using his name to make money, Which I image wont fly too well with him.

Do they currently still speak or did they fall out?

This is Sheila's memoir. Her memories of some instances in her life. There are actually only a few chapters about her work with Prince. Honestly, she speaks glowingly of him for the most part. Prince did a couple of things that weren't right and she talks about how she felt. Just because Prince is involved in someone's life, doesn't mean they can't recollect on experiences they shared.

What are some of the positive things she says about Prince?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #53 posted 09/11/14 9:24am

babynoz

lwr001 said:

babynoz said:


Sheila gave a performance years ago alongside Yolanda Adams and others where she gave her personal testimony. Like many of us she did a lot of dumb things that she openly discussed. Like I said, she is thankfully much wiser today.

Who told you that intellect is only measured by IQ scores and grades? rolleyes

you are the one questioning oines intellect based off of what; how close are you to them and how much time have you spent with them to make that judgement..Lets go back and look at every post you've ever made on this board or any others and see how we judge you


Go ahead and use my posts to judge as you damn well see fit...I'll lose no sleep, believe that. lol

I guess you missed the part where I based my thoughts on SHEILA'S OWN ADMISSIONS THAT I PERSONALLY WITNESSED.

Perhaps it's your intellect that we should be questioning?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #54 posted 09/11/14 9:26am

lwr001

babynoz said:

lwr001 said:

you are the one questioning oines intellect based off of what; how close are you to them and how much time have you spent with them to make that judgement..Lets go back and look at every post you've ever made on this board or any others and see how we judge you


Go ahead and use my posts to judge as you damn well see fit...I'll lose no sleep, believe that. lol

I guess you missed the part where I based my thoughts on SHEILA'S OWN ADMISSIONS THAT I PERSONALLY WITNESSED.

Perhaps it's your intellect that we should be questioning?

thing is i dont judge or use inneundo etc..posts get hijacked constantly by myslef included (guilty as charged) when we add that extra that doesnt need to be added, LIke wjhat part does this statement serve " ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, e

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Reply #55 posted 09/11/14 9:35am

babynoz

lwr001 said:

babynoz said:


Go ahead and use my posts to judge as you damn well see fit...I'll lose no sleep, believe that. lol

I guess you missed the part where I based my thoughts on SHEILA'S OWN ADMISSIONS THAT I PERSONALLY WITNESSED.

Perhaps it's your intellect that we should be questioning?

thing is i dont judge or use inneundo etc..posts get hijacked constantly by myslef included (guilty as charged) when we add that extra that doesnt need to be added, LIke wjhat part does this statement serve " ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, e


You're really going to pretend that's some new revelation around here?

Do me a favor...go back censor all of the other people who have implied the very same thing over the years and then get back to me about what does and doesn't need to be added.

While you're at it, let me know when you became a moderator? rolleyes

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #56 posted 09/11/14 9:55am

lwr001

babynoz said:

lwr001 said:

thing is i dont judge or use inneundo etc..posts get hijacked constantly by myslef included (guilty as charged) when we add that extra that doesnt need to be added, LIke wjhat part does this statement serve " ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, e


You're really going to pretend that's some new revelation around here?

Do me a favor...go back censor all of the other people who have implied the very same thing over the years and then get back to me about what does and doesn't need to be added.

While you're at it, let me know when you became a moderator? rolleyes

listen,, not censoring anything, just asking a question..,, i dont need to be a moderator to ask a quesiton as to was whether something was needed..do you

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Reply #57 posted 09/11/14 9:58am

lwr001

babynoz said:

lwr001 said:

thing is i dont judge or use inneundo etc..posts get hijacked constantly by myslef included (guilty as charged) when we add that extra that doesnt need to be added, LIke wjhat part does this statement serve " ladies surrounding Prince have never been known for their towering intellect, e


You're really going to pretend that's some new revelation around here?

Do me a favor...go back censor all of the other people who have implied the very same thing over the years and then get back to me about what does and doesn't need to be added.

While you're at it, let me know when you became a moderator? rolleyes

and you are a steelers fan..wtf

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Reply #58 posted 09/11/14 10:10am

babynoz

lwr001 said:

babynoz said:


You're really going to pretend that's some new revelation around here?

Do me a favor...go back censor all of the other people who have implied the very same thing over the years and then get back to me about what does and doesn't need to be added.

While you're at it, let me know when you became a moderator? rolleyes

listen,, not censoring anything, just asking a question..,, i dont need to be a moderator to ask a quesiton as to was whether something was needed..do you


You made it known that you don't care for my characterization, fine...cry me a river. I'm gonna call it like I see it regardless.

Now go back to each and every thread where Mayte gets skewered for doing a reality show or perhaps you didn't see the numerous brutal Bria threads where she could have used your intervention. lol

It has been said over and over again that P does not favor strong women with minds of their own so if you wanna be a hero you have a lot of work to do besides questioning my comment, which is rather mild in comparison to what's been said over the years about Prince's ladies.

Either be bothered by all of it or quit fronting.


Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #59 posted 09/11/14 10:10am

TrevorAyer

Lockwood88 said:

1contessa said:

Are you kidding me? No one or nothing could have stopped me from attending my grandmother's funeral! What does not accepting any paychecks do, except hurting yourself? Did she not have a backbone? I would have told Prince where he could go, and attend my grandmother's funeral anyway!

This thumbs up! Did Prince handcuff her to the drum kit , NOOOOOOO. biggrin

He certainly could have threatened not to pay her. Threatened to sue her. Or at least made her feel that that could happen. Prince has a history of fining band members, firing band members. Sounds like a form of psychological intimidation that may not be spoken but felt. Sheila's only way of protesting was to refuse his money. Then again .. Lockwood88 .. you know all about psychological intimidation because you like to abuse and harrass people that disagree with you. no wonder you are defending prince so fast. Hey remember when you called me a "tit" and a "fecker" for disagreeing with you. I do.

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