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Thread started 03/23/14 6:07am

thebanishedone

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So Prince didnt play all the stuff on the early albums by the Time

i always thought that except for a few synths Prince played

everything on the first

two albums by the Time,but acording to Jesse Morris Day

played drums on

"Cool" "The Stick" "Oh Baby"
"The Walk" "Wild & Loose" "Girl" "Gigolos" "Bacon Skin" "Tricky"

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Reply #1 posted 03/23/14 6:23am

SoulAlive

you're referring to Jesse's recent Facebook ramblings lol

Prince Played Guitar (Actually played everything) On Get It Up!

I played guitar, bass, & keys on: "Bite The Beat" Vanity 6 (I wrote music on 4 track & Prince wrote lyrics. It was my first publish work. Played it on a purple metal flaked Morite guitar just like Sugarfoot & the original guitar player with the B52s. That guy was amazing)

I played guitar on "Gigolos"
I played guitar on "Live Version The Bird" Prince played everything on the studio version "The Bird" and it's sick!
(I wrote a 4 track version on 1999 tour, Prince kinda like the hook, he threw the rest of what I did in the trash can as he commenced to write and performed a straight heater)

Morris & I recorded a song name "Old & Ingnorant" in Mpls the next day M & I fly out to meet P. In LA, at Sunset Sound he dug it and the track was rerecorded, rewritten, and became "Ice Cream Castles"! And John McClain "I did perform all the guitars on Ice Cream Castles"
(Prince kept telling me "It's so cool how you played the bass on the AND instead of the 1" great compliment even though at that time I didn't know what he was talking about...yeah of course I do now!)

"The Kid" is a strange and funny story. We were at Sunset Sound are engineer was always Peggy McCleary (Later married became Peggy Leonard) and she was absolutely an amazing engineer. She and later Susan Rogers (P's engineer), were to of the best engineers I had the pleasure of working with. They both endowed me a great deal of knowledge that I'm still utilizing today, thanks ladies
Back to the story: Morris who is a very, very gifted drummer went in sat down to play "Kid", but he kept speeding up Prince tried it, he kept speeding up too! So we got this brilliant idea, when looking back at it now it's funny the P and I thought this was a really good resolution. Morris out of the three of us was the only one that had a drink now and again, or let me put it clearer, Morris was the only one that knew how to drink. P & I were real amateurs, honestly...real pu$$ys when it came to drinking. I still am just ask Terry or Jerome one drink and my a$$ is through. To this day I still don't drink. Any, Prince & I drank a glass of wine or my case a glass of WHINE! (ohh my head the room is spinning, I don't feel well, etc, etc) will I'm playing the DRUMS on "The Kid" and of course all guitars.

Jungle Love- Saved my food $ the 1999 Tour came home bought a Tascam reel to reel 8 track recorder and came up with music for JUNGLE! Prince every word+melody and kilted it

I was very honored to write with the Cat. He didn't eff around. You had to bring it, you had to earn it if you wanted get put on. P. Would call at all hours, he clubbed a lot and we would record after the clubs close regardless of what coast we were on. (I could never stay up with Prince & Morris. They were so seasoned & I was a complete newbie nerd light-weight)

I played guitar solo on "My Drawers" P played rhythm guitar + everything else! except drums, that's Mr. Day.

Morris Day on Drums:
"Cool" "The Stick" "Oh Baby"
"The Walk" "Wild & Loose" "Girl" "Gigolos" "Bacon Skin" "Tricky" I
(I can't remember anymore it getting late...off t00oooo...zzzzz)

I hope this sheds light on some questions you may have had. It's the truth. Unlike a lot people writing books, I was there.

LovePeace,
Jesse cfffgggchzzzzzzzzz

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Reply #2 posted 03/23/14 6:43am

paulludvig

Was he even around when the first album was recorded.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #3 posted 03/23/14 7:03am

unique

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thebanishedone said:

i always thought that except for a few synths Prince played

everything on the first

two albums by the Time,but acording to Jesse Morris Day

played drums on

"Cool" "The Stick" "Oh Baby"
"The Walk" "Wild & Loose" "Girl" "Gigolos" "Bacon Skin" "Tricky"

it's been known for years that morris played drums and prince played bass when laying down the rough tracks. in fact does it not mention this in the crystal ball linear notes for bacon skin? also both prince and morris played drums on let's work. part way through the take they swapped places on the drum kit. the extended portion has drumming by morris

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Reply #4 posted 03/23/14 7:06am

EddieC

I think it's cool to hear what Jesse has to say--especially since it goes further than vague claims of "Jesse wrote The Bird" or things like that. I knew a lot of the drums were Morris--I think that was already out there--but it's interesting to hear the little anecdotes as well.

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Reply #5 posted 03/23/14 7:22am

databank

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Someone has to tell Princevault! biggrin

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Reply #6 posted 03/23/14 7:38am

Giovanni777

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You can hear the difference between Prince and Morris, with regard to their style on drums. The best way to do this is to listen to the extended 12" version of 'Let's Work'. Prince plays drums through where the song ends on the album version, then at some point into the extended part, Morris takes over on drums.

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FACT.

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[Edited 3/23/14 7:50am]

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #7 posted 03/23/14 7:49am

Marrk

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Giovanni777 said:

You can hear the difference between Prince and Morris, with regard to their style on drums. The best way to do this is to listen to the extended 12" version of 'Controversy'. Prince plays drums through where the song ends on the album version, then at some point into the extended part, Morris takes over on drums.

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FACT.

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I take it you meant 'Lets Work' and not 'Controversy'.

Fact.

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Reply #8 posted 03/23/14 7:50am

Giovanni777

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Marrk said:

Giovanni777 said:

You can hear the difference between Prince and Morris, with regard to their style on drums. The best way to do this is to listen to the extended 12" version of 'Controversy'. Prince plays drums through where the song ends on the album version, then at some point into the extended part, Morris takes over on drums.

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FACT.

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I take it you meant 'Lets Work' and not 'Controversy'.

Fact.

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Oh DAG. You are correct... (goes to edit now). Thanks!

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #9 posted 03/23/14 8:09am

bigd74

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You'll gave to excuse my ignorance but I thought The Bird on the album was the live version, so where is the studio version? Was it the single version?
cool
She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

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Reply #10 posted 03/23/14 8:41am

databank

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bigd74 said:

You'll gave to excuse my ignorance but I thought The Bird on the album was the live version, so where is the studio version? Was it the single version? cool

It's unreleased, though Jesse streamed it on his Myspace page for some time back in 2007, making it an official stream.

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Reply #11 posted 03/23/14 8:42am

bigd74

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databank said:

bigd74 said:

You'll gave to excuse my ignorance but I thought The Bird on the album was the live version, so where is the studio version? Was it the single version? cool

It's unreleased, though Jesse streamed it on his Myspace page for some time back in 2007, making it an official stream.

cool cool

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Reply #12 posted 03/24/14 3:21am

Replica

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This was a nice read, and I believe him. Cause he sounds honest about the songs, and does not sound bitter. He sounds like having fun sharing cool details about very essential songs in their catalogue. This also proves that Prince is very good at dissecting and absorbing all the different styles from his band members. He's a sponge they say. Personally I think Prince knows how to imitate Morris pretty damn well, and it's quite possible he learned alot of his bass techniques from Andre Cymone etc... just because Prince knew how to make hits when combining everything he knew, all of his old friends sounds like copycats to those not knowing how the story goes.

[Edited 3/24/14 3:25am]

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Reply #13 posted 03/24/14 3:47am

Adorecream

Really!

Morris may have played some drum parts, but who created them? - Prince and it is his vocals all over those albums, the bit about I'll fuck you all night" thats not even the time, its multi layered Prince backing tracks. The album is brilliant, but those songs are just Prince funk multiplied.

I don't care what anyone says, those are Prince jams pure and simple.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #14 posted 03/24/14 4:00am

udo

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Prince still can play those less-often played Time songs.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #15 posted 03/24/14 5:49am

lwr001

One thing I noticed is that Jesse respects Prince's talents imnmensely..I dont see the hate he has for his bandmates directed towards Prince

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Reply #16 posted 03/24/14 6:09am

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lwr001 said:

One thing I noticed is that Jesse respects Prince's talents imnmensely..I dont see the hate he has for his bandmates directed towards Prince


June 1st. He's a Gemini too. horns
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Reply #17 posted 03/24/14 6:20am

lwr001

iZsaZsa said:

lwr001 said:

One thing I noticed is that Jesse respects Prince's talents imnmensely..I dont see the hate he has for his bandmates directed towards Prince

June 1st. He's a Gemini too. horns

touche..he has mentioned several times recently, that Prince is the real deal when it comes to music..CAnt be fuckign around if you want to play with him..I heard Geroge Clinton tell someone the same thing. Funny, he does not give JJ & TL any type of props for their songwrting or production

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Reply #18 posted 03/24/14 6:34am

iZsaZsa

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lwr001 said:



iZsaZsa said:


lwr001 said:

One thing I noticed is that Jesse respects Prince's talents imnmensely..I dont see the hate he has for his bandmates directed towards Prince



June 1st. He's a Gemini too. horns



touche..he has mentioned several times recently, that Prince is the real deal when it comes to music..CAnt be fuckign around if you want to play with him..I heard Geroge Clinton tell someone the same thing. Funny, he does not give JJ & TL any type of props for their songwrting or production


They love them though, right, because Prince goes on and on about 'what have u done 4 me lately?'. lol
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Reply #19 posted 03/24/14 7:21am

luvsexy4all

lwr001 said:

One thing I noticed is that Jesse respects Prince's talents imnmensely..I dont see the hate he has for his bandmates directed towards Prince

ha ha he called himself and P pussies

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Reply #20 posted 03/24/14 8:03am

lwr001

luvsexy4all said:

lwr001 said:

One thing I noticed is that Jesse respects Prince's talents imnmensely..I dont see the hate he has for his bandmates directed towards Prince

ha ha he called himself and P pussies

yep, i htink jesse was living w/prince at the time as well..it must've been hella cool to go clubbing then go track some straight heat rocks that they were coming up with back then. awesome time to be so young as well

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Reply #21 posted 03/24/14 8:22am

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paulludvig said:

Was he even around when the first album was recorded.

he moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota in 1981, where he met Morris Day and played briefly in Day's band which was called Enterprise.

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I assume according to this he was

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Reply #22 posted 03/24/14 8:28am

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Adorecream said:

Really!

Morris may have played some drum parts, but who created them? - Prince and it is his vocals all over those albums, the bit about I'll fuck you all night" thats not even the time, its multi layered Prince backing tracks. The album is brilliant, but those songs are just Prince funk multiplied.

I don't care what anyone says, those are Prince jams pure and simple.

No one even Jesse is denying Prince's vocals and lyrics (he said Prince wrote the lyrics) He's just letting us know that Morris played drums on a lot of the songs and he played guitar on a lot of the songs. Jesse isn't taking claim to the songs. Also Morris vocals are all over the songs as well. Morris and Prince can soun alike easily. I think you misread what he's saying.

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The thread title says 'Prince didn't PLAY' it didn't say 'Prince didn't create'

Let's give credit where credit is due

And Jesse is giving mad respect to Prince throught that piece

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Reply #23 posted 03/24/14 9:09am

bashraka

"Oh Baby" is an outtake from Prince's second self-titled album. Prince played all instruments on that tune. Was the song re-recorded for The Time's first album?

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Reply #24 posted 03/24/14 2:38pm

V10LETBLUES

I can't wait until more of Prince's camp from the 80's start putting down their recollections. I think it is musically important for all of them to do so. Good for Jesse.

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