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Reply #60 posted 01/27/14 8:46am

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Feline: 1984 Soundcheck

Paul Peterson on recording the song "Feline" : (I was) trying to learn how to rap, I don't even know if they called it that then. I still remember that rap to this day for some reason. (Singing lyrics) "Feline, get my body working..."

It was funky, it was nasty and I was worried about what my mom would think. (Laughs). You know, (Prince) never talked to me about what the plan was (for that song). He and I didn't communicate on that level. That was his baby. So, I can't say for sure.

Feline is an unreleased song recorded on 14 July, 1984 at Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse (on the same day Prince flew to Dallas to attend the premiere of The Jacksons' Victory Tour), and was intended for The Family album. Paul Peterson confirmed in 2009 that he did record vocals for the track, confirming that a version by The Family does exist. The song was not included on the album, but a rap intended for Paul Peterson was later reworked for Sheila E. on the track Holly Rock when Peterson objected to the lyrics of the song and asked for it not to be included. Eric Leeds worked on the track again in 1990-1 for possible inclusion on his album Times Squared (presumably as an instrumental track), but it was not included on the final album.

There were two tracks that had been done that were going to be put on the second record. But, that was all put in the vault, because, (Peterson) left. But, we definitely had the plan of doing it. (Peterson's) unreleased track had something to do with a tiger or a jaguar, or something like that. I can't remember. You would have to ask him. It had to do with some animal. - Susnnah Melvoin

Feline (rehearsal) Purple Rain sound

Prince (vocals, guitars)

Brown Mark (bass)

Bobby Z (drums/linn)

Wendy Melvoin (guitar)

Dr Fink (keyboards)

Lisa Coleman (keyboards)

Greg Brooks (in the space) possibly other Family band/group members

The Family version

...everlasting

her emotions, never blue

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

.

Just the rhythm, I don't care what cords U play

.

haaaa look at them 2

them 2 funky over there

Greg talkin 2 Mark

both them legs are just...
Greg you gotta show the other roadies that

Oh I'm sorry 'musical technicians'

.

U want that

uh yeah like 2 oclock?

Cool

[launches into 2 a wicked guitar solo]

G G

.

3 bass players just talking

yeah yea I like that

that's new yeah

that's that new P__

oh ok

how much that costs U man

how much that's renten U

ah Yeah that's funky

.

_ so so automatic

I

don't

know what 2 to do

My hard on, everlasting

her emotions, never blue

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

.

St Paul's my name

making loves my game

funky as I want 2 be

line up a hundred

swear 2 God

I'll funk em till I just can't C

cause I'm bad good God

badder than the wicked witch

____ -___ ___

Don't U want be my ...

.

Organ solo

.

Guitars & Drums

.

Piano

.

Bobby Z

.

everybody uhhh

.

I __ baby

U know just what 2 do

My hard on everlasting

her emotions, never blue

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

.

On the 1

Good God

.

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

Feline

Keep My Body Working

Feline

all night

.

St Paul's my name

making loves my game

funky as I want 2 be

line up a hundred

swear 2 God

I'll funk em till I just can't C

cause I'm bad good God

badder than the wicked witch

____ -___ ___

Don't U want be my ...

Get off

.

uhhh

.

Mass appeal

little boy smile

make you happy all the while

.

I'm bad Good God

I'm bad Good God

.

bass and drums

.

Wendy say gemmie some of that

Wendy said gemmie a little bit of that..

put a little bit of that on my plate

.

Wendy

.

Got enough of Wendy's guitar? I can't hear it out here

Got Wendy's guitar in the mix? I can't hear it

Come on

.

Mass appeal

little boy smile

make you happy all the while

I'm bad Good God

.

Drop out the guitars

Drop out the bass

.

On the 1

.

good God

.
On the 1

.

that belongs to somebody else tho

we can't play Cinncinatit

with that cause

my man will come up on stage with a pistol

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He must of got some money last night

03

03

(goes into the Screams of Passion)

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Reply #61 posted 01/27/14 9:02am

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^^^ of course this is all guess work as it's a bootleg and we have never heard bootlegs lol
She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me?
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Reply #62 posted 01/27/14 10:09am

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bigd74 said:

^^^ of course this is all guess work as it's a bootleg and we have never heard bootlegs lol

right, it's a fantasy post, I love those wink

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Reply #63 posted 01/28/14 12:56pm

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Did anyone go to their 1st Avenue show in 1985?

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Reply #64 posted 01/28/14 4:57pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Did anyone go to their 1st Avenue show in 1985?

...if only!!!

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #65 posted 01/29/14 6:14am

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the Family full band line up

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St Paul (Peterson) (lead vocals keyboard guitar)

Susannah Melvoin (lead vocals)

Eric Leeds (sax/flute)

Jellybean Johnson (drums)

Jerome Benton (vocals/dancer)

.

Mico Weaver (guitar)

Alan Flowers (bass)

Billy Carruthers (keyboards)

Jonathan Melvoin (keyboards)

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Wally Safford (backup dancer/singer)

Gregory Brooks (backup dancer/singer)


August 13 , 1985
"First Avenue "Minneapolis
The Family First Stage
1.Susannah's pajamas,
2.Yes
3.River run dry
4.Desire
5.High fashion
6.Instrumental jam
(inc.Pink panther theme)
7.Nothing compares 2 U
8.The Screams of Passion
9.Mutiny/Holly Rock

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Reply #66 posted 01/29/14 6:34am

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Prince Spreads His Talent Around

By Divina Infusino
The San Diego Union-Tribune, July 31, 1985

Nonetheless, no one can deny that the Minneapolis dynamo is loaded with musical talent—so much talent that his work cannot be confined to just his own albums.

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Prince uses David Z. for his work as producer (and who knows what else) with his latest, and publicly admitted, spin-off project, the Minneapolis-based band, The Family. Featuring members of The Time, including Jerome Benton, Morris Day's sidekick and the high-stepping valet in "Purple Rain," as well as new talent such as the cool voice of a woman singer named Susannah, The Family is obviously Prince's new R&B dance-funk outlet, replacing The Time. And like The Time's records, The Family's vinyl debut, a two-cut maxi-single titled "The Screams of Passion," is hot—hypnotic funk grooves without monotony.

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The B side, "Yes," an instrumental track from The Family's forthcoming album, is the real giveaway of Prince's involvement, however. The cut is another dance track. But its loose rhythms and bizarre, unexpected musical twists are the kind only Prince's expansive musical imagination could create.

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Reply #67 posted 01/29/14 9:29am

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Yes (originally titled Lisa) is the fourth track (the first of two instrumentals) on The Family's first and only album The Family, and, a month before the album's release, it was included as the b-side of The Screams Of Passion, the album's first single. The song was written by Prince and Eric Leeds, but credited to Jellybean Johnson and Jerome Benton.

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Initial tracking, as Lisa (most likely named after Lisa Coleman), took place on 8 October, 1984 at the Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse, Eden Prairie, MN, USA (the day before Condition Of The Heart). Eric Leeds added saxophone overdubs soon after, although a recording date and location are not confirmed. It is likely the track's name was changed when considered for the album, but this is unverified. The track is entirely unrelated to the 1980 unreleased track Lisa (also named after Lisa Coleman).

Prince - all instruments, except where noted (uncredited) Eric Leeds - saxophone, flute Wendy Melvoin - rhythm guitar

[The Screams of Passion] B side, "Yes," an instrumental track from The Family's forthcoming album, is the real giveaway of Prince's involvement, however. The cut is another dance track. But its loose rhythms and bizarre, unexpected musical twists are the kind only Prince's expansive musical imagination could create. -By Divina Infusino

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Reply #68 posted 01/29/14 9:37am

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http://blogs.citypages.co...erview.php

fDeluxe's St. Paul Peterson talks about the Minneapolis Sound, working with Prince, and the rebirth of the Family

thefamily1985.jpg
The Family circa 1985

There is so much lore surrounding that era of Minneapolis music. Can you shed some light on that time period, for those of us who didn't get to experience it first hand?

The '80s in Minnesota was pretty darn incredible. You had a lot of bands that were coming out of here. Obviously he was the main guy that was rocking it at that time, but the Minneapolis Sound really started to be a thing. Kind of like the Motown Sound, or the Memphis Sound, or anything like that. So to be ingrained in the middle of that -- I mean, from the time I joined the band, two months later I was in Purple Rain and had a double-platinum record on my wall. So that's how fast things were moving at that point in town. And that was all because of him. He was on fire. I caught him at the peak of the peak of his notoriety. He kind of had it goin' on back then. [laughs] So there's no doubt that everything he touched turned to gold, and people were clamoring to just see and be a part of that in any shape or form, whether it would be as a fan or be lucky enough to be in one of his bands. I mean, the guy's brilliant, and it was an incredible time to be a part of that.

It's actually music history now, you know. My nephew has to remind me who's in my band. He says, "Uncle, do you realize that you were in Purple Rain?" It seems like so long ago... But yeah, it's an honor to be able to say that I've done that, that movie's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I played a very small part of it, but I'm still there, and it's something that I can be proud of and tell my kids about. It was a magical time, it really was. Minnesota was just buzzing with excitement, and everyone wanted to come here to get famous, which was very cool. They weren't clamoring to go to the coasts, to L.A. and New York to get famous, they were coming here to be a part of the Minneapolis Sound.

Did it feel, at the time, like history was being made?

When you're in the middle of it, you're trying to do your best to hang on because things are moving so quickly. And I was right in the middle of it, so it meant rehearsal six days a week, 10 hours a day -- especially during that time, he was meticulous and wanted things perfect and right, and the people that he had hired underneath him -- Jesse Johnson being the person for that time -- he cracked the whip hard on us. Basically, I was all set to go to the University of Minnesota, and I just changed colleges and went to the Minneapolis Sound College of Prince and Jesse Johnson instead. It was the smartest decision of my life. It was an incredible time.

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Reply #69 posted 01/29/14 2:43pm

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"The original vinyl is impossible to find these days." That makes me happy! music
Hey, Oldfriends, can you do a Jill Jones thread? Prettyplease? innocent batting eyes
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Reply #70 posted 01/31/14 6:53am

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Reply #72 posted 02/03/14 7:15am

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The Family album is definitely one of his best side-project albums, perhaps the best. It's got some really top-notch material on it that I wish Prince had kept for himself - in particular High Fashion/Mutiny, Nothing Compares 2 U and Desire.

* * *

Prince's Classic Finally Expanded
The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue

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Reply #73 posted 02/03/14 7:18am

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Reply #74 posted 02/06/14 9:42am

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NoVideo said:

The Family album is definitely one of his best side-project albums, perhaps the best. It's got some really top-notch material on it that I wish Prince had kept for himself - in particular High Fashion/Mutiny, Nothing Compares 2 U and Desire.

Maybe if Prince did some of the songs duet or a combination of him- the Revolution/Family, it would be cool

He just had so much music they were creating between 1984-86 it's no way he could do it all

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Reply #75 posted 02/06/14 9:51am

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The Screams of Passion

The Screams Of Passion is the third track on The Family's first and only album The Family, and, a month before the album's release, The Screams Of Passion was released as the album's first single. The song was written by Prince, but credited to St. Paul Peterson and Susannah Melvoin.-PrinceVault

THE SCREAMS of PASSION© 1985 Paisley Park Records
Catalog#: 9 28953-7

There's a gentle autumn breeze that blows
Whenever we be lyin', lyin' in my bed
The moon appears and disappears, U look at me
My clothes I quickly, I quickly shed

The curtains dance a minuet, autumn plays the music, baby
Come on, hold my hand
Leaves are fallin' velvet splash
Only U and I can under, only U can understand

The sunlight draws a picture through the silky lace
That hangs above your, hangs above your door
A picture that is waving, that it seems 2 be with every thrust U
Make me beg 4 more

Oh, a robin sings a masterpiece
That lives and dies unheard
4 screams of passion
A sound produced by 2 in love
Curtains dance and autumn plays on
(Oh, 2 in love, on and on)
The screams of passion

All I hear in my head echoing like a volcano, baby
The screams of passion
Back and forth the raging seas of lust, I want U madly
Can't U tell, can't U tell, can't U tell, can't U tell?
Oww!

Take me in your arms, oh baby
The crime is done, I'd rather die here in your
Screams of passion
Whoa, hold me now, baby
Tell me that U love me
Is it Sunday or is it passion?

Love, love (The screams of passion)
The screams of passion, yeah yeah, love
The screams of, the screams of, the screams of passion, passion
Hand me that love

Yeeeeeaaaaah! (Shhh... not so loud baby)
Yeeeeeaaaaah! (Shhh, shhh)


Back and forth the raging seas of lust
Raging, raging (The screams of passion)
U know I want U madly baby
Why can't U tell? Oww
Is... is it Sunday?
I thought I heard a church bell (Or was it passion, passion?)

© 1985 Parisongs Music - ASCAP

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Reply #76 posted 02/06/14 9:52am

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Reply #77 posted 02/06/14 10:13am

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Initial tracking took place on 19 August, 1984 at the Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse in Eden Prairie (two days after The Dance Electric and the day before God; a year to the day before the track's release on The Family album). St. Paul Peterson and Susannah Melvoin overdubbed vocals onto the track in late 1984 - early 1985, and Clare Fischer added orchestral overdubs during the same period. PrinceVault

faster than that

F

a little faster

yeah

F

just join right in anytime

organ

put the step on Mark

the lighter U touch it the more it does

C

sensitive 2 the touch

Ooooooh ooooah ooooah

Bobby the piano was 2 low last night could U C me?

Turn it up alittle bit now

Ooooooah

I'll need a little bit more voice 2night

Ooooooah

Alright just play base notes on the organ, drop out the chords

There's a gentle autumn breeze

blows
Whenever we be lyin', lyin' in my bed
.........

My clothes I quickly, I quickly shed

The curtains dance a minuet, autumn plays the music, baby
Come on, hold my hand
......

A picture that is waving, that it seems 2 be with every thrust U
Make me beg 4 more

The curtains dance a minuet, autumn plays the music, baby
Make me dance 4 more

Oh, a robin sings a masterpiece
That lives and dies unheard
4 screams of passion

Whoa, hold me now, baby
Tell me that U love me
Is it Sunday the screams of passion

drop out the bass

organs, Stop

the Screams of Passion

the screams of Passion

Everybody

the Screams of Passion
Hold me now baby

tell me that u love me

or is it passion

drop out the organ

Play some chords Wendy

organ

the Screams of Passion

the Screams of Passion

the Screams of Passion

the Screams of Passion

the Screams of Passion

oooh hold me now baby

tell me that u love me

or was it passion

baby

or was it

just the keyboards and the drums

Everybody

4 Screams of Passion

the Screams of Passion

the Screams of Passion

come on now baby

tell me that U love me

or was it passion

the Screams of Passion

Yeeeeaaaaooowwwhh

the Screams of Passion

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Reply #80 posted 02/11/14 10:10am

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“The Screams of Passion” music video is hard for me to remember... I was so young and I was inexperienced with that kind of thing. We had been in rehearsals for such a long time to go on the road. We were rehearsing for a year before we went and did our first gig.

Doing the music video was just part of the rehearsal thing, (because), we were in work mode. I saw it only as a job, but, not a job where I said, “Oh, this is a pain in the ass to do and I wish I was home by 5 p.m.” No. It was all part of what we were working on at the time. It was sort of a package deal in terms of how I felt about it. It was just part of the plan.
I remember not having any expectations. Prince let us do a lot, too. There's a lot of people who think, that we, as The Family, didn't have any influence. But, that's not the case. He was there for part of the video, but, he wasn't really there (all the time). He wasn't the little guy dictator in the background saying “No, they can't do this or this is how it should be.” It wasn't like that. We had done pre-production for such a long time. We had fun, but, I wouldn't say that we were in heaven about it. It just wasn't like that. My memory of it was just working really hard. That's what I remember about it.
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Reply #81 posted 02/11/14 10:12am

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The 1985 First Avenue Concert...we had the best time. It was great. I mean I look at it now--because, I have looked at it-- and I said “Oh my god!” It's amazing what young kids we were and we just kind of went for it. We were like crazy puppies on stage. It was a lot of fun and the house was sold out. We worked really frickin' hard for that show to get out there and do that... It's great seeing it. I laugh a lot when I watch it. I can't even believe that's me! My favorite moment was singing “Nothing Compares 2 U.” It was just a great moment to sing with (Peterson). It still is for us when we sing it.

-Susannah Melvoin

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Reply #82 posted 02/11/14 10:14am

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“Miss Understood” was not put on the (first) album, because, I didn't want it to be. I wanted it for the second record and I wanted to re-cut it. There wasn't time to re-cut it before it was going to mastering and I said “Prince, you can't put this on, I'm not happy with it. Let's wait until the second record.” Then we both decided to just do that.

But, that never happened. It's just floating around out there in the ether, totally not the way I wanted it, but, whatever... It was just way too insincere. I didn't believe myself at all, how would anyone else believe me? It just wasn't something I was comfortable with. At the time, I sang it so many different times to give it something and I was sort of given direction on that song by Prince. I was just not feeling it.
But, at the end of the day, once I was done, I said, “Can I just do this again on the next record? Can I just re-cut it? There's some other ideas that I've come up with so I can get these words out.” Prince was nice about it. He was just said “Of course, let's wait for the second one. Let's just put (the album) out as is and we'll redo it the next time." I said “Great!”
There were two tracks that had been done that were going to be put on the second record. But, that was all put in the vault, because, (Peterson) left. But, we definitely had the plan of doing it. (Peterson's) unreleased track had something to do with a tiger or a jaguar, or something like that. I can't remember. You would have to ask him. It had to do with some animal.
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Reply #83 posted 02/11/14 10:16am

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Clare Fisher, talk about a muse. He was my inspiration for getting the strings on the (first) record. Clare had done work with my father —my father being the arranger and Clare being the string arranger. So, I had that “in,” although, that was not how I was thinking about it at the time.

Prince and I were listening to a bunch of Rufus records back in the day-- and this was before we thought about doing strings on the first record. We were talking about how brilliant the strings were on those albums. I had also been listening to a lot of Claus Ogerman and Bill Evans. There's one record they did called Symbiosis and it's just one of the most beautifully arranged records. Ogerman's string arrangement, and Evans playing the piano over it, is some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard.
The only thing that's ever came close to feeling as perfectly arranged in terms of the strings was on the Ruficized record. I just said, “Prince, why don't we get Clare to do the strings on our record?” He said, “Yeah.” I said, “My dad knows him.” I called my dad and said “Pop, you gotta call Clare and see if he's up for it.” He was.
We sent him the 24 track. He got back to us right away and said “Absolutely.” Within a month we had all the lead sheets and we had the entire score for the record. We went in and cut it and I couldn't have been happier.
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Early Work

After spending much of his teenage years in a variety of local rock’n'roll bands around Minneapolis, Z spent time between Minneapolis and Los Angeles throughout the early 1970s songwriting and engineering. His early work is perhaps most known over this period in his writing contributions for Gram Parsons’ first solo LP GP, particularly the track ‘How Much I’ve Lied’, before going on to play a major role in establishing not only the Minneapolis sound but through his innovative use of drum machines, loops and samples much of production aesthetic now synonymous with music from the 1980s. Many collaborations of material was produced by David at Paisley Park throughout the late 1980s and 90′s.

Prince

During the mid-1970s, David encountered Prince playing around the Minneapolis scene. The pair went on to record a set of demos with Z engineering which ultimately led to Prince signing a recording deal with Warner Bros. Records. Although much of the detail of Z’s exact contributions to Prince’s albums is lost in the myth surrounding Prince and his prolific writing and recording, it is clear that his input, recording technique and production are intertwined intrinsically in to those recordings. His most well documented contributions to Prince’s folio of work are his writing, production and engineering on 1985 hit Kiss – originally a song given to the band Mazarati by Prince for their debut album which Z was producing[4] – and his recording and engineering of Purple Rain.

The Family The Family The Family Genre Producer 1985

Winding back 26 years do you recall how The Family first came into being?

Yeah. Everybody was in rehearsals for the 'Purple Rain' tour and I'd been working with Prince as his background vocalist, so I was already in the fold, as was Paul Peterson and all the other guys that were with The Time. The Time dissolved right before 'Purple Rain' was released and Prince said "I want to keep everybody working," and I think that he felt bad that The Time dissolved because there was so much great talent in it. He really believed at the time in Paul (Peterson), who was this young kid - both of us were babies. We were 18/19 years old and Paul was really incredible: he had this great voice and Morris (Day) and him used to do sing-offs. You could always hear Paul doing his thing and he was just fantastic and a great keyboard player and he's also one of the best bass players there is. So Prince got the band together – he also brought in (saxophonist) Eric Leeds. His first gig was with us. Eric is Alan Leeds' brother, who was Prince's road manager. Prince was given a tape of Eric's stuff. So Prince said, "I'd love to be able to put a band together and I'd like you, Paul, to be lead singer in this. How do you feel about that?" He said "yeah man, that would be great." It was the right thing and we all came together and Prince designed the record. He didn't give us songs he had in the vault: these were fresh songs designed for us.

What was it like them working with Prince during that period?

He wasn't working with us at all through that. He just went in and recorded songs and then just handed them over to me and Paul and David Z, who was producing it. And then he stepped out of the way.

What are your memories of the recording sessions?

I had a great time because a lot of the time I was here in Los Angeles and Paul was in Minneapolis. Paul and I were never together in the studio very often. I won't say never but not very often. So Paul would do his vocals with David Z and I would do my vocals with David and then David would do his thing. He pre-produced that record; he made those sounds on the album. It was great because his brother Bobby Z had written 'River Run Dry' (which appeared on the first album). We had an outside track on that record, which was again something that was an indication that Prince was letting it be what it was going to be on another kind of level for him. He relinquished a lot of the control. He wrote the tracks, designed them for us and then we took them. When we had the string date and went in with Clare Fischer, Prince wasn't actually there - it was all of us as a band and David. It was pretty nutritious. It felt really great and we knew that we were doing something really special. But then again we were also really young. I'd done sessions for other people but it was like 'here we are, doing our own record' and it was pretty great but no one really knew what was going to happen with it. Eric (Leeds) said that Prince wanted to write a hit record, that was his intention period. But Paul and I were not aware of any of that. We were just doing it. - Susannah Melvoin

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TONE: O'Neal went on to some success, didn't he?

Jellybean: Yeah, he has three gold records. The Time has four albums, three gold and one platinum.

TONE: So how did The Time shape up after Alexander left?

Jellybean: Morris was going to be lead singer, Terry Lewis on bass, Jesse Johnson on guitar, and Monty Moir and Jimmy Jam on keyboards. I played drums.

TONE: And this all for the movie Purple Rain?

Jellybean: Yeah. We started taking acting lessons everyday.

TONE: what was that like?

Jellybean: We were taking ballet, pirouetting and s**t across the floor. In a weird way, it was quite exciting, at 5 a.m. we're on this movie set, which was killer, until 6 or 7 p.m. in the evening, for three months, non-stop!

TONE: Tell me about working with Prince.

Jellybean: He and I had a fight scene that got edited out of the movie. He accidentally hit me. He was quite apologetic. The scenes were fun. During the shooting of "The Bird," Prince was making us shoot it over and over again. There was a lot of just hangin' around at First Avenue and The Union Bar.

TONE: Wasn't there another big "real" fight that happened?

Jellybean: This has been written about in other books, but yeah. A couple, I mean. I was always in the middle. Prince used to always treat Jimmy the worst. Because they're both geniuses, they clashed. Now, in hindsight, Jimmy deserved most of that s*'t. Prince fired Jimmy and Terry when they missed a gig. It wasn't their fault. I quit, and Prince asked me to come back. I was having my first child, Bianca. Jesse said, "C,mon let's do this thing." So I came back, but Jimmy and Terry didn't. I was asked to fix it, but it was years later that Prince, Jimmy and Terry mended fences. The other fight was between Morris Day and Prince. It was during filming, a fistfight, and I had to break it up. These are two enormous egos, and eventually it came to a head. There was one big show at First Avenue that was supposed to happen. After the show, Morris was OUT the back door into his waiting Porsche with his girlfriend and GONE! The Time disbanded. The next time I saw Morris (laughs), he was talkin' about the "Oak Tree."

TONE: What happened after Purple Rain and all of that was over?

Jellybean: Prince kept me on. I just followed him around on tour. He was engaged to Suzanna, Lisa's (guitar player for Prince and the Revolution) sister. He was putting together a group called The Family with Paul Peterson, Jerome, Eric Leeds and me. I was just hangin' out. It was a bit funand sad.

TONE: Tell me about The Time now.



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Wally Gregory Jerome & Susannah

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Reply #88 posted 02/24/14 12:02pm

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Yes (originally titled Lisa) is the fourth track (the first of two instrumentals) on The Family's first and only album The Family, and, a month before the album's release, it was included as the b-side of The Screams Of Passion, the album's first single. The song was written by Prince and Eric Leeds, but credited to Jellybean Johnson and Jerome Benton.

Initial tracking, as Lisa (most likely named after Lisa Coleman), took place on 8 October, 1984 at the Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse, Eden Prairie, MN, USA (the day before Condition Of The Heart). Eric Leeds added saxophone overdubs soon after, although a recording date and location are not confirmed. It is likely the track's name was changed when considered for the album, but this is unverified. The track is entirely unrelated to the 1980 unreleased track Lisa (also named after Lisa Coleman).

Recording Personnel
  • Prince - all instruments, except where noted (uncredited)
  • Eric Leeds - saxophone, flute
  • Wendy Melvoin - rhythm guitar

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Reply #89 posted 02/25/14 2:55am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

according to The Vault/Uptown it was early November when St Paul announced he was leaving.

It's a shame the way this band collapsed so suddenly."The Screams Of Passion" was released in the summer of '85 and by November,Paul announced that he was leaving.It was the same situation with Mazarati.Two promising bands breaking up before they reached their potential.Who knows what would have happened if they had stayed together and kept it going throughout the rest of the 80s,at least hmmm

It's obvious that Prince was spreading himself too thin at that point.He was doing too many things.He was trying to run a record label,pursue a movie career,produce other artists,release records on his own,and still find time to tour.After Purple Rain,there seemed to be a big urgency (in his view) for him to do as many projects as he could.

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