Hi,

A new entry in my series of questions regarding the recent leak of Prince pro-shot vids.

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As usual I'd like to know IF the snippets are from TV, WHEN they were broadcast and on WHICH channel/program.

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01) 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (1) - 17mn - Someone said earlier that this was a leak, not from TV, so unless someone says other wise I'll consider it a leak.

02) 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (2) - 8mn - This one is waaay more ambiguous, though a bit long for a TV snippet. Anyone knows?

03) 1990_06_02 Rotterdam (3) - 2mn - OK so this one is obviously from TV because it's written Purple Rain at the beginning and there's something written in Japanese in the end... Huh? Wait a sec: a snippet from the Rotterdam show was aired... in Japan?! That one beats me. Any info?

04) 1990_06_16 Paris - 30sec - Obviously a TV snippet from a French channel. Any confirmation?

05) 1990_06_19 London - 21mn - Looks like a leak to me, it's too long for TV. Any confirmation?

06) 1990_07_07 Cork (Pro) - 11mn - There's a logo from a TV Channel named Cork TV Multichannel so it's obviously from TV. The lucky bastards got 11 minutes, wow! ANy details regarding the extra boradcast date?

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Now a few ?? regarding the La Coruna show, because to my knowledge there was ONE broadcast of that show and oh! looky looky here, now we have THREE versiosn circulating, except all of them have the same duration (give or take a minute) and the same TV logo on the screen, so allow me to ask you a big... WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT THE FUCK????

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And last but not least, a somewhat similar question regarding the Tokyo show since we have:

- Love Or Money version (songs in order)

- TV version (songs not in order)

and to these 2 recent leaks I'd addthat I used to have

- a DVD of the show in order but the intro featured a backstage ecene of Prince and the band before starting the show.

- a recording from French TV (Canal +) which was the show not in order but edited down to one hour (and without the short B&W intro of the "TV version" above).

So what I'd LOOOOVE to know is where each of these 3 versions belong in terms of when and on which country and on which channel the've been broadcast for the first time. + I'm gonna have to compare songs to see if there have been some edits but that'll b a headache for another day

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As usual it's for the discography project so I thank you all very much for the help u may give me.

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Appendix: unsolved questions from previous years:

- The Paisley Park SOTT live snippet from December 1987 is NOT from the UK version of the Omnibus doc. Is it from the american "Prince of PP" version or if not, from where?

- 1988_08_30 Hamburg Aftershow: was this aired on TV or not? Stillwaiting said he thought only a snippet from it was aired but he wasn't sure so we still don't know.

- Lovesexy Dortmund: what are the differences, if any, between the so-called "Japanese" version and the laser disc version? And when was that Japanese version aired in Japan? And on what channel/program.

- 1988_11_06 Los Angeles - 4mn - most likely from a Californian TV broadcast but can someone confirm???

[Edited 12/19/13 10:07am]

I'm about to throw you for a loop... are you holding your breath?

I own the original U-matic master tape of this: (note the date)

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/5TRJ3he.png[/img:$uid]

I just wanted to let you know that alternative footage of another date possibly exists. I say possibly as I can not confirm whether or not this is footage of 3rd June 1990, or if the label simply states its broadcast date. U-matic machines are somewhat hard to come by outside of the industry, and to be honest, i'd imagine they're not even used anymore.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Xibalba said:

I'm about to throw you for a loop... are you holding your breath?

I own the original U-matic master tape of this: (note the date)

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/5TRJ3he.png[/img:$uid]

I just wanted to let you know that alternative footage of another date possibly exists. I say possibly as I can not confirm whether or not this is footage of 3rd June 1990, or if the label simply states its broadcast date. U-matic machines are somewhat hard to come by outside of the industry, and to be honest, i'd imagine they're not even used anymore.

Anyway, hope this helps.

How did U get this tape from the second french channel??? So is it the full concert? I know that Antenne 2 shot as well the 86' concert @ Le Zénith (I was there!!!!).

Xibalba said:

I'm about to throw you for a loop... are you holding your breath?

I own the original U-matic master tape of this: (note the date)

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/5TRJ3he.png[/img:$uid]

I just wanted to let you know that alternative footage of another date possibly exists. I say possibly as I can not confirm whether or not this is footage of 3rd June 1990, or if the label simply states its broadcast date. U-matic machines are somewhat hard to come by outside of the industry, and to be honest, i'd imagine they're not even used anymore.

Anyway, hope this helps.

I'm blown away. Man u got that thing and can't even WATCH it?! How damn frustrating, we need someone to help u do a transfer!!!

Now how did Antenne 2 put their hands on this and why is a big mystery to me. I can say for sure that the whole show wasn't broadcast on French TV (I was there and already a fan) but it may be that they only aired a snippet on the French news, for example to announce the Paris date. If anyone has more info on this it would be royal!

Still, that doesn't answer any of the questions above, more like adding questions

databank said:

I'm blown away. Man u got that thing and can't even WATCH it?! How damn frustrating, we need someone to help u do a transfer!!!

Now how did Antenne 2 put their hands on this and why is a big mystery to me. I can say for sure that the whole show wasn't broadcast on French TV (I was there and already a fan) but it may be that they only aired a snippet on the French news, for example to announce the Paris date. If anyone has more info on this it would be royal!

Still, that doesn't answer any of the questions above, more like adding questions

As I mentioned, no idea if this is footage from the 2nd night (3rd June 1990), or the opening night of the tour (2nd June 1990).

At a guess, I would imagine that it's opening night footage and the date on the tape is the broadcast date as that would make more sense in line with a news item. But you never know...