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Thread started 10/01/13 9:10am

G3000

Does Prince need a new Documentary?

I think he should link up with HBO or some other network and draft a new full and complete in-depth Documentary on his life. I think the masses (fans and non-fans) would appreciate hearing him speak again, but in a way that will draw you in and give a major jolt to his art, old and new.

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Dig out some old and new concert footage, give us some snippets of what is supposedly "in the vault," tell us where you've been and where you're going.

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People still have intrest in his music and performances, but in a revealing and indepth Doc, (I feel) would give bring some excitement back? Maybe he's too far gone with the character of Prince to reveal the man behind the character?

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What is a normal day like? Why all the changes? etc. Take us behind the curtain!!

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It would only work if he would speak freely and not scripted or dare I say, sound like he's from another planet. lol

What do you think?

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Reply #1 posted 10/01/13 9:36am

bashraka

As long as Toure and Questlove are not in the documentary. I would only want the documentary to show Prince around individuals who aren't trying to exaggerate their own sense of importance in P's life. Some ideas. Record Prince in the studio with 3rd Eye Girl and show how he records, mixes and rehearses his bands. Secondly, do a retrospective on The Rainbow Children album. I doubt he would do it for "1999", "Purple Rain" or "SOTT", but since the TRC was his most personal album that chronicales his conversion to the JW, he could talk about how the themes of the songs has informed him.

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Reply #2 posted 10/01/13 9:59am

G3000

Absolutely! No other celebs or famous musicians should participate. Keep the focus on him, make it more behind the scenes and show Prince in a different light. People have this perception, but if he can come off more likable, I think it would change that.
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Reply #3 posted 10/01/13 10:32am

chopingard

The documentry I would like to see (I know this sounds selfish already smile ) or indeed a documentry I think that would work would be Prince In The Studio

An Interview with all his in house engineers, Say first Interview Susan Rogers?

Susan behind the desk at Paisley with a master tape for a released song that she has strong memories for the session, and an unreleased one she has strong memories of the session. and just listen talk and play about with the reels/ pro tools sessions... In the studio they were recorded paisley Park/ LA Record plant .. etc

Then do

Mike Koppleman

Chronic Freeze

Kyle Bess

Femi Jyer

Hans Buff

and

Dave Fischer

But finaly Prince himself just talking about songs he has strong memories of recording that he engineered himself while deconstructing what he did on the track.

It could be a trilogy with an exploration of his live career and of his video career (including unreleased video and film projects).

I think that a focus on Prince the work would probably be more informative than a focus on Prince the man

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Reply #4 posted 10/01/13 10:40am

SuperSoulFight
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Sure, I'd be interested in this but No! Way! In! Hell! It's! Ever! Going! 2! Happen!
I remember docs about famous albums where producers sat behind the mixing desk showing how they created certain tracks. All very nice, but Prince ain't gonna let Susan Rogers go on tv messing with his master tapes.
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Reply #5 posted 10/01/13 11:23am

bashraka

I have a feeling that even if he did do a documentary about one of his albums, where the engineers played the original reel-to-reel tapes and Prince explained how those songs were recorded, written and performed, he would do it for his post Warner Bros album. Maybe "The Rainbow Children" album. I just think he still harbors bad memories about anything related to his recorded output on Warner Bros records.

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Reply #6 posted 10/01/13 11:49am

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Not so much bad memories, but he just does not want to be reminded of them anymore.
And as for Rainbow Children, didn't Kevin Smith already do a documentary on that? Which never happened?
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Reply #7 posted 10/01/13 3:21pm

G3000

I think that a focus on Prince the work would probably be more informative than a focus on Prince the man

I agree. That would make a great documentary. It would be more intresting to focus on the music and the musician.

The catalog, the recording process, how he lays down how he plays all the instruments, etc.

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But also open up just a bit, lower the wall. A no frills documentary, a day if the life of Prince.

Or do we need to call: lol

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Reply #8 posted 10/01/13 5:07pm

EvilAngel

What's in it for him? Prince never wants to talk about the kind of stuff that's really interesting to the general public. Instead he wants to talk about crazy shit like the truth, chemtrails and play stupid word games with people. So unless all that crazy shit will be in the documentary, I doubt he'd be interested. And if the docu is going to be about stupid shit like that, it's not going to be interesting.

You can also forget about him talking about his WB albums. A documentary would boost the sales of those albums and we all know how he feels about WB.

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Reply #9 posted 10/02/13 6:54am

chopingard

Oh I never thought for a second it would actually ever happen. I was just putting down as part of my Wish list (I know in the song "Love" he tells us we shouldn't give him those razz)

I'm one of those fans that ultimatly is just happy when he releases anything wether I like it or not as it's all part of the creative journey.

But yeah I would be shocked if he ever concidered this for even a second... But you know it would be awesome if it did smile

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Reply #10 posted 10/02/13 11:09am

NouveauDance

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It might be a bit too much car crash TV if Prince had control over it, you need someone with a bit of backbone to spearhead the thing. And obviously someone who fancypants likes himself otherwise he wouldn't be involved any way.

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Reply #11 posted 10/02/13 5:41pm

chopingard

NouveauDance said:

It might be a bit too much car crash TV if Prince had control over it, you need someone with a bit of backbone to spearhead the thing. And obviously someone who fancypants likes himself otherwise he wouldn't be involved any way.

So Kevin Smith it is then smile

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Reply #12 posted 10/03/13 3:20am

NouveauDance

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chopingard said:

NouveauDance said:

It might be a bit too much car crash TV if Prince had control over it, you need someone with a bit of backbone to spearhead the thing. And obviously someone who fancypants likes himself otherwise he wouldn't be involved any way.

So Kevin Smith it is then smile

Haha, as Morris Day would say... "We tried that already.... REMEMBER?!" lol

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Reply #13 posted 10/03/13 11:40am

luvsexy4all

yeh the uncut 6 hrs of omnibus footage...

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Reply #14 posted 10/03/13 4:42pm

rap

luvsexy4all said:

yeh the uncut 6 hrs of omnibus footage...

6 hours??

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Reply #15 posted 10/03/13 4:45pm

rap

Whatever happened to: Inside the Creative Mind??

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Reply #16 posted 10/03/13 4:55pm

chopingard

NouveauDance said:

chopingard said:

So Kevin Smith it is then smile

Haha, as Morris Day would say... "We tried that already.... REMEMBER?!" lol

LOL Indeed

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Reply #17 posted 10/04/13 1:05am

udo

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Documentaries ask for a legendary performer and the past few years did not show mr P as such.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #18 posted 10/04/13 3:09am

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udo said:

Documentaries ask for a legendary performer and the past few years did not show mr P as such.

If One Direction can have a documentary made about them, then so too can Prince (!). Regardless of the quality of his recent work, no one can deny his legendary status.

Personally, i would prefer with no involvement by Prince. I just don't think he would come across well and it would taint any balanced commentary

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Reply #19 posted 10/04/13 3:31am

naffi

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chopingard said:



NouveauDance said:


It might be a bit too much car crash TV if Prince had control over it, you need someone with a bit of backbone to spearhead the thing. And obviously someone who fancypants likes himself otherwise he wouldn't be involved any way.




So Kevin Smith it is then smile



YES!!!! Do you think Kevin has forgiven P for everything yet??
You know you are in love, when you cannot fall asleep because your reality is finally better than your dreams - Dr Seuss
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Reply #20 posted 10/06/13 12:57am

Sahar

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I would have loved to see a Prince documenary made by Tavis Smily.

Uhave2B - - - P R I N C E - - - 2BcomeMYKINGanyway.
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Reply #21 posted 10/06/13 3:02am

udo

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ParadigmShift said:

udo said:

Documentaries ask for a legendary performer and the past few years did not show mr P as such.

If One Direction can have a documentary made about them, then so too can Prince (!).

I do not get the impression that you understand the documentary meme well enough.

It's not just a video thingie about some subject.

As you noted correctly anybody can do that.

No, it's a through video that shows off the legendary status in an undeniable fashion.

Not just to teenie-weenie wannabe fans but also to `normal ` music lovers.

You can't do that with whatever he does these days.

See the stuff that floats around from supposedly the 5 october gig.

Anything new, fresh, groundbreaking, different, etc?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #22 posted 10/06/13 2:06pm

YowMaScroow

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that would be great, much overdue. I hope it could be factaully correct as so much in the past has not been and has also missed amazing achievements. Could do with some smart fans being involved in the writing of it.

love is touching souls
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Reply #23 posted 10/06/13 5:32pm

natechi

So funny that this topic came up. I've been wokring on a documentary idea for Kickstarter and wanted to get everyone's feedback before I launch. I'll leave the preview link up for 24 hours to get feedback from anyone who would be interested. Let me know what you think...

I took the link down...if anyone is interested in it please send me org note

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Reply #24 posted 10/07/13 1:58am

ParadigmShift

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udo said:

ParadigmShift said:

If One Direction can have a documentary made about them, then so too can Prince (!).

I do not get the impression that you understand the documentary meme well enough.

It's not just a video thingie about some subject.

As you noted correctly anybody can do that.

No, it's a through video that shows off the legendary status in an undeniable fashion.

Not just to teenie-weenie wannabe fans but also to `normal ` music lovers.

You can't do that with whatever he does these days.

See the stuff that floats around from supposedly the 5 october gig.

Anything new, fresh, groundbreaking, different, etc?

setting aside the patronising tone of your reply for just one moment, i know full well the concept of a documentary, and that knowldge extends to the realisation that his most recent work need not be the main focus. There is over 30 years of musician's career to cover.

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Reply #25 posted 10/07/13 2:23am

udo

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ParadigmShift said:

There is over 30 years of musician's career to cover.

If we fail to notice the decline of the amount of epicness in the documentary who can we blame?

Glorifying someone is not problem but what about correctness of the history being rewritten?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #26 posted 10/07/13 3:57am

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udo said:

ParadigmShift said:

There is over 30 years of musician's career to cover.

If we fail to notice the decline of the amount of epicness in the documentary who can we blame?

Glorifying someone is not problem but what about correctness of the history being rewritten?

A well balanced and robust documentary (which is, i assume, something we all would like to see) would have to consider all aspects of his career. And yes, that would also include his high and low points. Not for one moment would i want a one-sided, ass kissing documentary.

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Reply #27 posted 10/08/13 6:17am

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NouveauDance said:



chopingard said:




NouveauDance said:


It might be a bit too much car crash TV if Prince had control over it, you need someone with a bit of backbone to spearhead the thing. And obviously someone who fancypants likes himself otherwise he wouldn't be involved any way.




So Kevin Smith it is then smile




Haha, as Morris Day would say... "We tried that already.... REMEMBER?!" lol


A 40 acres and a mule production maybe?
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Reply #28 posted 10/08/13 12:21pm

G3000

ParadigmShift said:

udo said:

A well balanced and robust documentary (which is, i assume, something we all would like to see) would have to consider all aspects of his career. And yes, that would also include his high and low points. Not for one moment would i want a one-sided, ass kissing documentary.

I agree!! One cohesive documentary would be great. Some folks that are new to Prince can't get past the make-up and clothes. A Doc that focuses on the genius musician, songwriter, producer, performer and business man, would just send him into orbit.

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A Documentary on the impact these three had in the 80's would also be very cool!!

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Reply #29 posted 10/18/13 6:12am

OldFriends4Sal
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After watching again the Prince of Paisley Park, I don't think a doc now could hold up

But it's possible

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