I am a huge fan of the 20Ten album. I just find it flows brilliantly and, like Dirty Mind and Controversy, I feel it is both nicely balanced in terms of its organic/electronic instrumentation and authentically captures the original Minneapolis sound. But, I must say, I also quite like the potentiality of 2013, without knowing whether any of these songs would be considered to make up a cohesive album.

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What would be your choice of album - 2010 or 2013? In the latter case, I have suggested an album, which potentially flows seamlessly and is made up of the strongest songs, in my opinion, but you, of course, can make up and suggest your own 10-song strongest suite.

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20Ten

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1. Compassion

2. Beginning Endlessly

3. Future Soul Song

4. Sticky Like Glue

5. Act of God

6. Lavaux

7. Walk in Sand

8. Sea of Everything

9. Everybody Loves Me

Bonus: Laydown

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Rock and Roll Love Affair

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1. Screwdriver

2. R N R Affair (Original Extended)

3. The Breakdown

4. Shades of Umber

5. Big City

6. Breakfast Can Wait

7. Boyfriend

8. Ain't Gonna Miss U When Ur Gone

9. Groovy Potential

Bonus: Extralovable (Reloaded)

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Interestingly, my choice would be 2013.

I just don't think these 2013 single releases are as enjoyable as a complete new album release. I just miss the flow/experience of an album. So my vote goes to 20Ten for now.

There is no album. That 2013 playlist is a mess.

Prince is intimidated by the greatness of 'Lotusflow3r' and discouraged from the failed deal with '20ten'. This is why he's not releasing an album.

Giovanni777 said:

There is no album. That 2013 playlist is a mess.

Prince is intimidated by the greatness of 'Lotusflow3r' and discouraged from the failed deal with '20ten'. This is why he's not releasing an album.

Potential album or not, which year would you choose just based on the STRENGTH of the individual songs themselves? I disagree with your perspective about P feeling intimidated and/or overly discouraged. After TRC, he went through a patch of releasing music with zero lyrics, and people were beginning to wonder whether he would ever release music with vocals again. It lasted quite some time, where we got N.E.W.S., Xpectation and C Note. Then, without a moment's advance warning, out of the blue, we suddenly heard about Musicology. In other words, he reverted to type. After 20Ten, he hasn't released a fully fledged "album" of his own, but he has worked behind the scenes in no small way on Andy Allo's Superconductor and the entirity of the 3rdEyeGirl album. In fact, he is still toying around with these projects/concepts, alongside his own musings. This period, again, is lasting quite some time. But, as always, he will alway revert to type. My perspective is that he likes the surprise factor. Thus, he's just playing in his own mischievious way. An album will drop. But it will come out of the blue, when we least expect it, but most want it. I imagine it might actually be imminent and we will have no idea about it, until he decides, I'm ready now.

Giovanni777 said:

There is no album. That 2013 playlist is a mess.

Prince is intimidated by the greatness of 'Lotusflow3r' and discouraged from the failed deal with '20ten'. This is why he's not releasing an album.

Says who? Did you speak to Prince recently?

funkaholic1972 said:

errant said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Says who? Did you speak to Prince recently?

This is Giovanni reiterating his own personal theory from 2 years ago that Prince won't put out albums any more, ever again for the rest of his life. It also vaguely plays into his old fuddy-duddyness of being unwilling to adapt to technology and refuse to recognise that any music worth owning might not come in the form of a vinyl record or a compact disc neatly compled into a pre-determined playlist with accomanying liner notes and photoshopped pictues. In other words, pay no mind.

Yup.

2010:
2013:

thedance said:

2010:
2013:

errant said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Says who? Did you speak to Prince recently?

This is Giovanni reiterating his own personal theory from 2 years ago that Prince won't put out albums any more, ever again for the rest of his life. It also vaguely plays into his old fuddy-duddyness of being unwilling to adapt to technology and refuse to recognise that any music worth owning might not come in the form of a vinyl record or a compact disc neatly compled into a pre-determined playlist with accomanying liner notes and photoshopped pictues. In other words, pay no mind.

Oh many thanks, Great Wise One.

I was just needing you to tell me who I am so desperately...

Because you decide to sell out to the singles trend, don't expect me to, okay? It's called "preference", and I prefer an album.

Funny that you say I refuse "to adapt to technology" when I helped many national recording studios transition to ProTools, and also consulted in proper digital recording techniques with Logic, ProTools, and Digital Performer all in a Mac-based environment for over ten years...

Yeah... funny. I guess I was pretty willing to help others adapt... Paisley Park Studios, Flyte Time Studios, Wonderland Studios, Herbie Hancock, NPR, etc., etc., etc.

Thanks.

[Edited 8/30/13 8:32am]

Giovanni777 said:

errant said:

Giovanni777 said:

Oh many thanks, Great Wise One.

I was just needing you to tell me who I am so desperately...

Because you decide to sell out to the singles trend, don't expect me to, okay? It's called "preference", and I prefer an album.

Funny that you say I refuse "to adapt to technology" when I helped many national recording studios transition to ProTools, and also consulted in proper digital recording techniques with Logic, ProTools, and Digital Performer all in a Mac-based environment for over ten years...

Yeah... funny. I guess I was pretty willing to help others adapt... Paisley Park Studios, Flyte Time Studios, Wonderland Studios, Herbie Hancock, NPR, etc., etc., etc.

Thanks.

[Edited 8/30/13 8:32am]

Hey, just repeating what you've said over and over and over and over.

And over and over and over...

TwiliteKid said:

errant said:

Giovanni777 said: Hey, just repeating what you've said over and over and over and over.

And over and over and over...

Look. You two seem to have a problem with me. Admit it.

I mostly only talk about music on the Org, and many appreciate my perspectives. Sorry that you don't.

[Edited 8/30/13 9:21am]

errant said:

Giovanni777 said:

Oh many thanks, Great Wise One.

I was just needing you to tell me who I am so desperately...

Because you decide to sell out to the singles trend, don't expect me to, okay? It's called "preference", and I prefer an album.

Funny that you say I refuse "to adapt to technology" when I helped many national recording studios transition to ProTools, and also consulted in proper digital recording techniques with Logic, ProTools, and Digital Performer all in a Mac-based environment for over ten years...

Yeah... funny. I guess I was pretty willing to help others adapt... Paisley Park Studios, Flyte Time Studios, Wonderland Studios, Herbie Hancock, NPR, etc., etc., etc.

Thanks.

[Edited 8/30/13 8:32am]

Hey, just repeating what you've said over and over and over and over.

No. You falsely labeled me.

Funny that you say I refuse "to adapt to technology" when I helped many national recording studios transition to ProTools, and also consulted in proper digital recording techniques with Logic, ProTools, and Digital Performer all in a Mac-based environment for over ten years...

Peace.

SpiritOtter said:

Giovanni777 said:

There is no album. That 2013 playlist is a mess.

Prince is intimidated by the greatness of 'Lotusflow3r' and discouraged from the failed deal with '20ten'. This is why he's not releasing an album.

Potential album or not, which year would you choose just based on the STRENGTH of the individual songs themselves? I disagree with your perspective about P feeling intimidated and/or overly discouraged. After TRC, he went through a patch of releasing music with zero lyrics, and people were beginning to wonder whether he would ever release music with vocals again. It lasted quite some time, where we got N.E.W.S., Xpectation and C Note. Then, without a moment's advance warning, out of the blue, we suddenly heard about Musicology. In other words, he reverted to type. After 20Ten, he hasn't released a fully fledged "album" of his own, but he has worked behind the scenes in no small way on Andy Allo's Superconductor and the entirity of the 3rdEyeGirl album. In fact, he is still toying around with these projects/concepts, alongside his own musings. This period, again, is lasting quite some time. But, as always, he will alway revert to type. My perspective is that he likes the surprise factor. Thus, he's just playing in his own mischievious way. An album will drop. But it will come out of the blue, when we least expect it, but most want it. I imagine it might actually be imminent and we will have no idea about it, until he decides, I'm ready now.

I would agree with your last section (bolded). I do believe that he will release an album eventually, despite "Errant" incorrectly reporting that I said he never would.

Also, I do think he is "testing the waters" to a certain degree, and has released mostly songs he has decided NOT to release on an album (or songs he initially intended to include on an album, then changed his mind).

I do appreciate that he's releasing these, and I've enjoyed most of them.

Still, I do indeed prefer an album, and as much as Errant is so desperate for me to conform to a social trend and subscribe to mp3s and iTunes, I won't... along with many, many others out there, especially those of us who have worked for so long in pro audio and both analog and digital recording.

Just Sayin.

Giovanni777 said:

SpiritOtter said:

Potential album or not, which year would you choose just based on the STRENGTH of the individual songs themselves? I disagree with your perspective about P feeling intimidated and/or overly discouraged. After TRC, he went through a patch of releasing music with zero lyrics, and people were beginning to wonder whether he would ever release music with vocals again. It lasted quite some time, where we got N.E.W.S., Xpectation and C Note. Then, without a moment's advance warning, out of the blue, we suddenly heard about Musicology. In other words, he reverted to type. After 20Ten, he hasn't released a fully fledged "album" of his own, but he has worked behind the scenes in no small way on Andy Allo's Superconductor and the entirity of the 3rdEyeGirl album. In fact, he is still toying around with these projects/concepts, alongside his own musings. This period, again, is lasting quite some time. But, as always, he will alway revert to type. My perspective is that he likes the surprise factor. Thus, he's just playing in his own mischievious way. An album will drop. But it will come out of the blue, when we least expect it, but most want it. I imagine it might actually be imminent and we will have no idea about it, until he decides, I'm ready now.

I would agree with your last section (bolded). I do believe that he will release an album eventually, despite "Errant" incorrectly reporting that I said he never would.

Also, I do think he is "testing the waters" to a certain degree, and has released mostly songs he has decided NOT to release on an album (or songs he initially intended to include on an album, then changed his mind).

I do appreciate that he's releasing these, and I've enjoyed most of them.

Still, I do indeed prefer an album, and as much as Errant is so desperate for me to conform to a social trend and subscribe to mp3s and iTunes, I won't... along with many, many others out there, especially those of us who have worked for so long in pro audio and both analog and digital recording.

Just Sayin.

2013:

Not in final order yet, until 'nuf songs are good enough:

Groovy potential

The breakdown

.........song about the getting together, but not written yet

.........song about first kiss and romance, but not written yet

Breakfast can wait

Girl Thang

..........song (not written yet) about showing eachother's naked souls and still love eachother.

...........

Bonus: Fix Ur Life up.

dJJ said:

2013:

Not in final order yet, until 'nuf songs are good enough:

Groovy potential

The breakdown

.........song about the getting together, but not written yet

.........song about first kiss and romance, but not written yet

Breakfast can wait

Girl Thang

..........song (not written yet) about showing eachother's naked souls and still love eachother.

...........

Bonus: Fix Ur Life up.

Oh, I'm sure they've been written--we just haven't heard them yet.

I haven't heard "The Breakdown," "Shades of Umber," or "Big City" yet, so I'm unable to really say anything about your "album" comparison. I probably like what I've heard from 2013 as well or more than most of 20Ten, but the songs I really like on 20Ten are probably good enough to tip the balance, unless the three I haven't heard can swing things--and I know some people really like those three songs.

TwiliteKid said:

Superconductor said:

To me Laydown is the equivalent of Jughead.

Wow! To each his/her own, I guess.

As to Spirit's question, my vote goes to 2010, since 20ten is an actual album. While Prince has released some great songs this year, I'll always choose an album over a compilation of random tracks, no matter how well the track sequence flows. Case in point: as much as I adore the fan release The Dawn 4.1, I get more of a satisfying experience listening to the Come and Gold Experience albums back-to-back.

[Edited 8/31/13 20:38pm]

My 2010 cd dissapeared

Just like the cd with Bria.

Weird.

I can't find them anywhere.

20Ten - awful

Hypothetical 2013 Album - also awful

Superconductor said: