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Thread started 04/26/13 12:58pm

2freaky4church
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The Toure book is a must. Take it from me.

The book is really well written and you learn a bunch of new stuff. It's good to read a Prince book about the actual music, not all that hubbub about Mayte's baby and sex parties and the like.

The book is really insightful. A must for any fan. From me this is saying something.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 04/26/13 1:50pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The book is really well written and you learn a bunch of new stuff. It's good to read a Prince book about the actual music, not all that hubbub about Mayte's baby and sex parties and the like.

The book is really insightful. A must for any fan. From me this is saying something.

I've been thinking about buying it and I've heard good and bad reviews. Why do you say from you this is saying something?

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Reply #2 posted 04/26/13 2:01pm

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This book rarely talks about the music. The book is pretty much a dissertation about Toure's assertion that Prince was an icon to Generation X because he was supposedly a messianic figure that made music that was highly sexual in nature to make his real message of spirituality more digestible to the masses. Although, it was nice to read Eric and Alan Leeds' thoughts, there was way too many moments where I felt the author crossed some personal lines like talking about P was in bed with women. The book is interesting but I don't think folks should take Toure' word on Prince as gospel. Too many times I felt like he was speaking FOR Prince, instead of laying the facts outright.
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Reply #3 posted 04/26/13 2:51pm

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bashraka said:

This book rarely talks about the music. The book is pretty much a dissertation about Toure's assertion that Prince was an icon to Generation X because he was supposedly a messianic figure that made music that was highly sexual in nature to make his real message of spirituality more digestible to the masses. Although, it was nice to read Eric and Alan Leeds' thoughts, there was way too many moments where I felt the author crossed some personal lines like talking about P was in bed with women. The book is interesting but I don't think folks should take Toure' word on Prince as gospel. Too many times I felt like he was speaking FOR Prince, instead of laying the facts outright.

I felt the same way about thatpress conference kinda thing a few weeks back when questlove, toure and Leeds spoke about the book and Prince. Toure doesn't seem to reflect on stuff, he tells us if it is the truth. Don't want to read something from someone who writes too prove points, rather than questioning your own views. Research will often both strengthen and weaken ideas one have about a person.
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Reply #4 posted 04/26/13 3:56pm

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The book sucks! What is with you people are yall sniffing purple markers? This dude comes off as a conspiracy theorist who just babbles on and on about generation X alot of times not even mentioning prince then theres a chapter he discusses his sex life in detail like wtheck dude are you gay? Lol it was weird he came off as a stalker in alot of it honestly he just over analyzes everything i hated the book. DMSR and possessed was 100x better than this crap. Wow
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Reply #5 posted 04/26/13 4:36pm

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I have made some comments about this book in another thread. It is an interesting read as it is not a "and then Prince wrote this song and dated that woman" list but trying to interpret Prince.

Toure has this hypothesis about Prince being an icon of Gen X and these individual strands of thought about Prince (the explicit sexuality and Seventh Day Adventist religious imagery and Prince thinking of himself as having a direct line from/to God) but Toure doesn't manage to pull it all together. And the book and talks are a way for Toure to enhance his own brand, piggybacking off Prince's enigmatic status.

Nevertheless it made me rethink Prince's music and lyrics and explore things a bit more. Alan Leeds, Eric Leeds and Dez Dickersons comments about Prince are very insightful but not in a sensationalist sort of way. The only inappropriate bit is the page on Prince in bed by an unnamed ex girlfriend. I think Toure used this to emphasise his point that the sexuality expressed in Prince's songs and lyrics are very admiring and affirmative of women and not mysoginist.

Which book has all these juicy details about sex parties??? LOL (I have only read Matt Thorne and Toure so far)
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Reply #6 posted 04/26/13 5:53pm

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Prince by Matt Thorne is better

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Reply #7 posted 04/26/13 6:05pm

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Just started reading this book tonight and everything I've read so far is just ripped from other
books. It's like deja voux because I've read the exact same words in other books. Toure should
be sued for plagarism because he lifts all his material from books I've already read.

I hope it gets better, but I'm sure it'll just be more stuff he stole from the better bios. It is actually
just verbatim taken from other books. Don't waste your time with this crap. While it may read as
a nice story in Rolling Stone, it is hardly worth anyone's while who knows anything at all about
Prince.

Seriously, he steals from all the other books and if you've read any of the decent books on Prince
before, this is just an insult. If you've never read anything, maybe this would appeal to you.

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Reply #8 posted 04/26/13 6:17pm

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ARock said:

Prince by Matt Thorne is better

[Edited 4/26/13 17:53pm]

I'm almost finished with this book and although it is well written and and researched, as a fan
there is little I did not know already. (Although, "I won't do it like Kevin" was about Kevin

Kosner drinking his own piss)

But it is better than Toure's book by far.

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Reply #9 posted 04/26/13 6:51pm

Superconductor

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8up said:

Just started reading this book tonight and everything I've read so far is just ripped from other
books. It's like deja voux because I've read the exact same words in other books. Toure should
be sued for plagarism because he lifts all his material from books I've already read.

I hope it gets better, but I'm sure it'll just be more stuff he stole from the better bios. It is actually
just verbatim taken from other books. Don't waste your time with this crap. While it may read as
a nice story in Rolling Stone, it is hardly worth anyone's while who knows anything at all about
Prince.



Seriously, he steals from all the other books and if you've read any of the decent books on Prince
before, this is just an insult. If you've never read anything, maybe this would appeal to you.



So which books did he copy from and which do you suggest should be read instead? I have only read Matt Thorne and Toure.
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Reply #10 posted 04/26/13 7:47pm

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DMSR by Per Nielsen. Best Prince book by far.

Superconductor said:

8up said:

Just started reading this book tonight and everything I've read so far is just ripped from other
books. It's like deja voux because I've read the exact same words in other books. Toure should
be sued for plagarism because he lifts all his material from books I've already read.

I hope it gets better, but I'm sure it'll just be more stuff he stole from the better bios. It is actually
just verbatim taken from other books. Don't waste your time with this crap. While it may read as
a nice story in Rolling Stone, it is hardly worth anyone's while who knows anything at all about
Prince.

Seriously, he steals from all the other books and if you've read any of the decent books on Prince
before, this is just an insult. If you've never read anything, maybe this would appeal to you.

So which books did he copy from and which do you suggest should be read instead? I have only read Matt Thorne and Toure.

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Reply #11 posted 04/28/13 11:57am

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I was humming Wally and it doesn't sound that great..lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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