thepope2the9s said:

Isnt the sampler set more about appeasing the 'casual fans'?

I could do without the sampler set and have a full show of third eye girl rock n roll! But the casual fan would not like that and walk away wondering what happened to all the 'hits' he didnt play.

I see the sampler set as Prince trying to find some 'even ground' to satisfy both the enthusiasts (like me) and the casual fans.

Its a smart move on his part and also shows that he does aim to please the fans/fams. But as we all know , there will always be someobody bitching and complaining about one thing or another.

True, and Prince back catalogue is way too diverse for him to be able to please everyone at the same time all the time. He will please those that loves his diversity as well as hit parades.

thepope2the9s said:

Isnt the sampler set more about appeasing the 'casual fans'?

I could do without the sampler set and have a full show of third eye girl rock n roll! But the casual fan would not like that and walk away wondering what happened to all the 'hits' he didnt play.

I see the sampler set as Prince trying to find some 'even ground' to satisfy both the enthusiasts (like me) and the casual fans.

Its a smart move on his part and also shows that he does aim to please the fans/fams. But as we all know , there will always be someobody bitching and complaining about one thing or another.

dualboot said:

But still It's about advertising what u gonna get as visitor. 3 lines of additional info could be enough.

WARNING

Fan advisory

Hits can and will be played

A warning in the other direction:

WARNING

Fan advisory

Obscure songs can and will be played

the sampler thingy seems a bit too cabaret for me, i really love what he's doing with 3rd eye & this will kill the cool factor!! what i do know is that he better not do that shit at montreux, i might puke

Listening to 23rd and 24th I notice he uses the thunder/lighting sample quite heavily on some 'songs/snippets' .

What's up with that?

Do the stagelights flash during those parts?

eye listened to the dna show too and eye am just not impressed ... was not impressed with montreaux either .. it annoys me that prince just can't get it together to ever play the songs right anymore .. the few he does that are actually good songs .. such as never take the place o your man and .. shes always in my hair .. he ruins .. bambi sounds ok i guess .. and adore was not too bad .. but the new songs are just every kind of awful and the prog guitar endings he puts on everything bore me to tears .. and to be honest .. his voice sounds completely shot .. not in like a one show kinda way .. its that horse screw driver noise he makes .. like a screw driver scraped across a blackboard .. eye am always surprised that prince has such a great catalog and can't even put together one decent show with all really great songs .. it just seems impossible for him and 3rd eye seems to be his worst outing yet .. the setlist is just rubbish .. and the guitar solos .. well i guess if you are into rnb and never heard a guitar solo or rock music before than yeah .. i guess some people would be impressed .. but this tour is really prince scraping the bottom of his career .. with crap like cause and effect and 2y2d being showcased instead of the usual sly stone covers .. it is just all around painful .. the sampler set is rediculous .. i hated all his piano sets when he would play 10 seconds of a song and then move on .. he does the same with the sampler .. and the sampler sounds so much better than his band it just really puts in perspective how bad 3rd eye really is .. but again .. 10 seconds of a song is stupid .. especially when he ruins the classics by slowing them down and doing stupid chants in them .. and then jams 10 minutes on some garbage like cause and effect .. i would not be surprised if prince starts featuring purple and gold, wedding feast and jughead with this band .. the new lets go crazy is a borefest too ..

Is the mailbox at 7801 Audbon road, Chanhassen MN still emptied regularly to be read?

If so I could send a printout of this thread there to save any Euro-tour that he might want to do in 2013 or 2014 if the real crisis hasn't hit by then.

dualboot said:

Listening to 23rd and 24th I notice he uses the thunder/lighting sample quite heavily on some 'songs/snippets' .

What's up with that?

Do the stagelights flash during those parts?

Blindingly so, yes.

TrevorAyer said:

eye listened to the dna show too and eye am just not impressed ... was not impressed with montreaux either .. it annoys me that prince just can't get it together to ever play the songs right anymore .. the few he does that are actually good songs .. such as never take the place o your man and .. shes always in my hair .. he ruins .. bambi sounds ok i guess .. and adore was not too bad .. but the new songs are just every kind of awful and the prog guitar endings he puts on everything bore me to tears .. and to be honest .. his voice sounds completely shot .. not in like a one show kinda way .. its that horse screw driver noise he makes .. like a screw driver scraped across a blackboard .. eye am always surprised that prince has such a great catalog and can't even put together one decent show with all really great songs .. it just seems impossible for him and 3rd eye seems to be his worst outing yet .. the setlist is just rubbish .. and the guitar solos .. well i guess if you are into rnb and never heard a guitar solo or rock music before than yeah .. i guess some people would be impressed .. but this tour is really prince scraping the bottom of his career .. with crap like cause and effect and 2y2d being showcased instead of the usual sly stone covers .. it is just all around painful .. the sampler set is rediculous .. i hated all his piano sets when he would play 10 seconds of a song and then move on .. he does the same with the sampler .. and the sampler sounds so much better than his band it just really puts in perspective how bad 3rd eye really is .. but again .. 10 seconds of a song is stupid .. especially when he ruins the classics by slowing them down and doing stupid chants in them .. and then jams 10 minutes on some garbage like cause and effect .. i would not be surprised if prince starts featuring purple and gold, wedding feast and jughead with this band .. the new lets go crazy is a borefest too ..

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And, why, exactly are you still here? I'm not trying to start a fight, but it's so funny to me that you hate just about everything that is Prince but keep returning to tell us. It's like continuously going to a restaurant to tell them how much you hate their food.

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As for the sampler set, I like it mostly because it shows Prince just being funny and having fun. Now, of course, I love what I've heard so far from the Dakota Shows and the San Fan shows, so I think this current tour is great. And with the sampler set, it's like getting the best of both worlds. We get the full rock show with new songs that I really like, and we get the sampler set where Prince is just messin' around, having fun. Maybe it's because I've heard the songs in the sampler set so many times that hearing them this way doesn't bother me, especially since, again, I enjoy the live playing before the sampler set. Now, of course, I would not be opposed to Prince playing some stripped down version of these hits or either just blazing through them with 3rd Eye Girl, but after such a wonderful live show the sampler set is just a nice way to end the night with some fun.

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And for the record, I, like many, was raised on some of the most wonderful blues and rock playing, and I still find the new songs really good. Additionally, when you state "i guess if you are into rnb and never heard a guitar solo or rock music before than yeah .. i guess some people would be impressed," that's like the dumbest statement ever. Ernie Isley played in an "R&B" band, and he waxes the floor with most of the so-called great "rock" guitarist so learn some history before make such unfounded statements.

well ok .. i made the rnb statement because it baffles me how much people are impressed with prince guitar based genre performance when he really does not do anything worth praising ... i find his guitar work when interjected into more varied performance far more competent and appealing .. in this guitar rock context, he really just repeats himself over and over with his solos and general blase songwriting ... i can only imagine someone who has never listened to hendrix, page, maggot brain, nirvana etc .. finding prince guitar themed experiments anything more than embarassing and cringeworthy .. you 1275stopp have always had your own flavor of music that tends to baffle my sensibilities regarding prince

as for your question .. i love listening to live show and hearing what all the praise is about .. i love hearing what prince is doing even if it sucks ... i know he reads the org and I know he is far more capable than what he is putting out .. he seriously needs some honest feedback and those who gush over every little half assed fart he calls a new song are not helping prince sense of decent songwriting .. as of lotus I am commited to not spending a dime on prince till he puts more effort in and gives us good music again .. I think paying prince for 20 years of crap is long enough and it is time he heard some truth about how crappy his music and live sets really are .. I would like to pay to see prince live again, but it would be nice if the sets were not 75 percent total rubbish as they are now .. or half covers .. which is just insulting .. i don't care if the tickets are 5 bucks or 500 .. he needs to play prince songs and sing them and stop with the crappy medleys the crappy slowed down versions .. the crappy sampler sets .. and play the songs they way they were when they were good .. the slowed down "i could never take the place of your man" is EXACTLY the same as the slowed down "little red corvette" which is exactly the same song as "colonized mind" which is nothing but a rip on "all along the watchtower" .. sorry to get side tracked .. um yeah and the singing on the slow ICNTTPOYM completely ruins the melody ..

I don't see why he cant play just his good songs .. even later songs that just don't suck .. I could swallow "rainbow" "the work" "here" "dance for me" thrown in with some deep classics like "17 days" "shockadelica" and a few hits that have not been beat to death like and acoustic "thieves" he does not have to play his worst songs all the time like he does like "cause and effect" and "2y2d" .. yet this is what we get from him and everybody blathers on like its good .. its not .. its lazy and defies any basic logic for someone who knows damn well what a good and bad song is

a reworking of dark and of4s are brilliant .. but then he throws in some crap jam like dance electric and decimates the whole song into pretty much a nothing song with no lyrics or anything that made the song good .. why bother .. prince can do better and i enjoy listening and critiquing what he does cuz its fun and prince could use the honest feedback for a change .. clearly 20 years of smoke blown up his ass has finally clouded his shit detector .. or maybe he really does hate his fans and that is why he punishes them with such shitty live outings .. if that is the case .. he deserves a little taste of 'right back at ya'

TrevorAyer said:

well ok .. i made the rnb statement because it baffles me how much people are impressed with prince guitar based genre performance when he really does not do anything worth praising ... i find his guitar work when interjected into more varied performance far more competent and appealing .. in this guitar rock context, he really just repeats himself over and over with his solos and general blase songwriting ... i can only imagine someone who has never listened to hendrix, page, maggot brain, nirvana etc .. finding prince guitar themed experiments anything more than embarassing and cringeworthy .. you 1275stopp have always had your own flavor of music that tends to baffle my sensibilities regarding prince

as for your question .. i love listening to live show and hearing what all the praise is about .. i love hearing what prince is doing even if it sucks ... i know he reads the org and I know he is far more capable than what he is putting out .. he seriously needs some honest feedback and those who gush over every little half assed fart he calls a new song are not helping prince sense of decent songwriting .. as of lotus I am commited to not spending a dime on prince till he puts more effort in and gives us good music again .. I think paying prince for 20 years of crap is long enough and it is time he heard some truth about how crappy his music and live sets really are .. I would like to pay to see prince live again, but it would be nice if the sets were not 75 percent total rubbish as they are now .. or half covers .. which is just insulting .. i don't care if the tickets are 5 bucks or 500 .. he needs to play prince songs and sing them and stop with the crappy medleys the crappy slowed down versions .. the crappy sampler sets .. and play the songs they way they were when they were good .. the slowed down "i could never take the place of your man" is EXACTLY the same as the slowed down "little red corvette" which is exactly the same song as "colonized mind" which is nothing but a rip on "all along the watchtower" .. sorry to get side tracked .. um yeah and the singing on the slow ICNTTPOYM completely ruins the melody ..

I don't see why he cant play just his good songs .. even later songs that just don't suck .. I could swallow "rainbow" "the work" "here" "dance for me" thrown in with some deep classics like "17 days" "shockadelica" and a few hits that have not been beat to death like and acoustic "thieves" he does not have to play his worst songs all the time like he does like "cause and effect" and "2y2d" .. yet this is what we get from him and everybody blathers on like its good .. its not .. its lazy and defies any basic logic for someone who knows damn well what a good and bad song is

a reworking of dark and of4s are brilliant .. but then he throws in some crap jam like dance electric and decimates the whole song into pretty much a nothing song with no lyrics or anything that made the song good .. why bother .. prince can do better and i enjoy listening and critiquing what he does cuz its fun and prince could use the honest feedback for a change .. clearly 20 years of smoke blown up his ass has finally clouded his shit detector .. or maybe he really does hate his fans and that is why he punishes them with such shitty live outings .. if that is the case .. he deserves a little taste of 'right back at ya'

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I think I understand your point/purpose, but don't you think that if Prince is listening that he (or anyone) would more readily respond or take seriously critiques that are not so loaded with harshness and insults? Surely, there is a way for you to be more technical in your comments and less insulting to Prince and to those who like the things that you do not like? When you use negativity or are openly hostile in your critiques, only the most objective person will attempt to filter the insults to analyze if there is any merit to the actual critique. But, most people hear the insult and stop listening to what's said. Thus, the high level of anger and hostility you seem to have for Prince's past twenty years does not help others hear your point. In fact, in most cases, most miss it. And, if Prince is reading, I'd think that he would also stop reading simply because of "how" you are articulating your point.

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Secondly, even if you have been disappointed by the Prince product that you purchased over the past twenty years, no one--not even Prince--forced you do purchase the product, and art, of all things, comes with an inherent "buyer beware" tag. So, for me, I would think that ten years of not being satisfied would cause me to stop buying Prince's or anybody's work. So, giving Prince "a little taste of 'right back at ya'' doesn’t seem to make much sense because you cannot be for certain that Prince really isn't following his heart and producing the level of which he is capable at this point in his life. I hear what you are saying, that Prince, in your estimation, can create better art than he has in the past twenty years, but what if he can't? Then, what does that say about your "right back at ya"? At some point, those of us who like what he is doing and does of us who do not like what he is doing must just say, “This is who the guy is,” and then decide to either enjoy what he’s doing or find someone who is doing what we like.

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Finally, I love the slowed version of "Little Red Corvette," I'm not bothered by the slowed version of "ICNTTPOYM," and I like the different version of "Let's Go Crazy". And while I love "Colonized Mind," I do realize that it is a rip off of Makeba's "Quit It." But, how does me liking those songs and loving Musicology and Lotusflow3r/MPLS constitute that I am blowing smoke up Prince’s butt? You must understand that with art there is no empirical equation that defines what is a good or bad song. So, when you state that "Cause and Effect" and "2Y2D" are just "lazy and defies any basic logic for someone who knows damn well what a good and bad song is," you are making a rationally flawed statement because there is no way to prove that point empirically, especially if some people, including me, like both songs. I love both the studio and live versions of "Cause and Effect" but so far I only really like the live version of "2Y2D". The studio version seems a bit flat to me, but I only have that badly recorded version. So, I guess, again, my ultimate point is that maybe you could accomplish your goal or be more effective if you were more technical in your discussion of what's lacking or missing from Prince's work rather than insulting him and those of us who like what he's been doing for the past twenty years. It is not like you and Bart don’t have plenty of insight to share, but that insight is often drowned in a sea of negativity and insults.

Yeah, what you said!, Love me some Isleys........go Ernie,...........go Prince, keep doing your thang, peeps is just jealous, cuz they know you do it best! and you KNOW this!

1725topp said:

TrevorAyer said:

eye listened to the dna show too and eye am just not impressed ... was not impressed with montreaux either .. it annoys me that prince just can't get it together to ever play the songs right anymore .. the few he does that are actually good songs .. such as never take the place o your man and .. shes always in my hair .. he ruins .. bambi sounds ok i guess .. and adore was not too bad .. but the new songs are just every kind of awful and the prog guitar endings he puts on everything bore me to tears .. and to be honest .. his voice sounds completely shot .. not in like a one show kinda way .. its that horse screw driver noise he makes .. like a screw driver scraped across a blackboard .. eye am always surprised that prince has such a great catalog and can't even put together one decent show with all really great songs .. it just seems impossible for him and 3rd eye seems to be his worst outing yet .. the setlist is just rubbish .. and the guitar solos .. well i guess if you are into rnb and never heard a guitar solo or rock music before than yeah .. i guess some people would be impressed .. but this tour is really prince scraping the bottom of his career .. with crap like cause and effect and 2y2d being showcased instead of the usual sly stone covers .. it is just all around painful .. the sampler set is rediculous .. i hated all his piano sets when he would play 10 seconds of a song and then move on .. he does the same with the sampler .. and the sampler sounds so much better than his band it just really puts in perspective how bad 3rd eye really is .. but again .. 10 seconds of a song is stupid .. especially when he ruins the classics by slowing them down and doing stupid chants in them .. and then jams 10 minutes on some garbage like cause and effect .. i would not be surprised if prince starts featuring purple and gold, wedding feast and jughead with this band .. the new lets go crazy is a borefest too ..

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And, why, exactly are you still here? I'm not trying to start a fight, but it's so funny to me that you hate just about everything that is Prince but keep returning to tell us. It's like continuously going to a restaurant to tell them how much you hate their food.

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As for the sampler set, I like it mostly because it shows Prince just being funny and having fun. Now, of course, I love what I've heard so far from the Dakota Shows and the San Fan shows, so I think this current tour is great. And with the sampler set, it's like getting the best of both worlds. We get the full rock show with new songs that I really like, and we get the sampler set where Prince is just messin' around, having fun. Maybe it's because I've heard the songs in the sampler set so many times that hearing them this way doesn't bother me, especially since, again, I enjoy the live playing before the sampler set. Now, of course, I would not be opposed to Prince playing some stripped down version of these hits or either just blazing through them with 3rd Eye Girl, but after such a wonderful live show the sampler set is just a nice way to end the night with some fun.

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And for the record, I, like many, was raised on some of the most wonderful blues and rock playing, and I still find the new songs really good. Additionally, when you state "i guess if you are into rnb and never heard a guitar solo or rock music before than yeah .. i guess some people would be impressed," that's like the dumbest statement ever. Ernie Isley played in an "R&B" band, and he waxes the floor with most of the so-called great "rock" guitarist so learn some history before make such unfounded statements.

kangafunk said:

Haha, fair play to you Trev, you put a lot of effort into your hate.

HEAR HEAR! Ain't that the truth!

TrevorAyer said:

prince is not a little kid .. any friend of mine over 40 that acts like a spoiled lazy little shit gets an earful .. y'all sayin boo hoo he's negative need to lighten up .. this is the org .. not some college paper or business proposal .. i like talking smack .. i like saying the truth .. prince can handle it and so can you .. i make plenty of releveant points .. y'all just can't handle honesty cuz u been listening to froofy prince corn syrup too long .. can't handle the real deal .. git yer panties in a bunch if eye don't handle prince with kid gloves .. keep defending a 250 dollar short set of 2010 out takes and a 10 minute sampler set of 30 second snippets of songs you actually want to hear .. y'all are just nuts .. prince knows what his good songs are .. they end up in the sampler or piano medley .. y'all are truly happy with this rubbish? .. fine .. everyone with a clue knows prince should play his good songs all the way thru and feature them instead of this rubbish in his set .. especially for 250 .. they dont have to be hits .. just the good songs .. simple as that ..

TrevorAyer said:

well ok .. i made the rnb statement because it baffles me how much people are impressed with prince guitar based genre performance when he really does not do anything worth praising ... i find his guitar work when interjected into more varied performance far more competent and appealing .. in this guitar rock context, he really just repeats himself over and over with his solos and general blase songwriting ... i can only imagine someone who has never listened to hendrix, page, maggot brain, nirvana etc .. finding prince guitar themed experiments anything more than embarassing and cringeworthy .. you 1275stopp have always had your own flavor of music that tends to baffle my sensibilities regarding prince

as for your question .. i love listening to live show and hearing what all the praise is about .. i love hearing what prince is doing even if it sucks ... i know he reads the org and I know he is far more capable than what he is putting out .. he seriously needs some honest feedback and those who gush over every little half assed fart he calls a new song are not helping prince sense of decent songwriting .. as of lotus I am commited to not spending a dime on prince till he puts more effort in and gives us good music again .. I think paying prince for 20 years of crap is long enough and it is time he heard some truth about how crappy his music and live sets really are .. I would like to pay to see prince live again, but it would be nice if the sets were not 75 percent total rubbish as they are now .. or half covers .. which is just insulting .. i don't care if the tickets are 5 bucks or 500 .. he needs to play prince songs and sing them and stop with the crappy medleys the crappy slowed down versions .. the crappy sampler sets .. and play the songs they way they were when they were good .. the slowed down "i could never take the place of your man" is EXACTLY the same as the slowed down "little red corvette" which is exactly the same song as "colonized mind" which is nothing but a rip on "all along the watchtower" .. sorry to get side tracked .. um yeah and the singing on the slow ICNTTPOYM completely ruins the melody ..

I don't see why he cant play just his good songs .. even later songs that just don't suck .. I could swallow "rainbow" "the work" "here" "dance for me" thrown in with some deep classics like "17 days" "shockadelica" and a few hits that have not been beat to death like and acoustic "thieves" he does not have to play his worst songs all the time like he does like "cause and effect" and "2y2d" .. yet this is what we get from him and everybody blathers on like its good .. its not .. its lazy and defies any basic logic for someone who knows damn well what a good and bad song is

a reworking of dark and of4s are brilliant .. but then he throws in some crap jam like dance electric and decimates the whole song into pretty much a nothing song with no lyrics or anything that made the song good .. why bother .. prince can do better and i enjoy listening and critiquing what he does cuz its fun and prince could use the honest feedback for a change .. clearly 20 years of smoke blown up his ass has finally clouded his shit detector .. or maybe he really does hate his fans and that is why he punishes them with such shitty live outings .. if that is the case .. he deserves a little taste of 'right back at ya'

Prince's guitar work has been praised by Clapton, Santana and SRV. He does not need your approval

Nirvana? Lol if you think Cobains guitar work was even one tenth of what Prince could do. Prince's guitar work is fantastic, and there is nothing remotely embarassing about it. His rhythm playing in particular is amazing. And yes i listen to plenty of rock music, most likely far more than you do. I mean many non Prince fans give him props for his fantastic live guitar performances in the ROR hall of fame and on SNL, yet we have an "expert" like you questioning it. Lol The man gets his props as a guitarist and the only thing embarassing is your lack of knowledge about the instrument.

Prince is considered one of the great guitarists, and that will continue to be so. All the folks who praise both his rhythm and lead playing aren't deaf, perhaps you are. Anyone who thinks that Cobain was an impressive player needs to get his ears checked.

Your so called honest feedback is nothing but you trying to impose your opinions onto others. IF MOST OF US DID NOT LIKE PRINCE'S MUSIC, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE. YOU don't like his music? FINE, BUT STOP CLAIMING THAT OTHERS ARE MERELY PRETENDING TO LIKE IT.

[Edited 5/4/13 9:10am]

TrevorAyer said:

prince is not a little kid .. any friend of mine over 40 that acts like a spoiled lazy little shit gets an earful .. y'all sayin boo hoo he's negative need to lighten up .. this is the org .. not some college paper or business proposal .. i like talking smack .. i like saying the truth .. prince can handle it and so can you .. i make plenty of releveant points .. y'all just can't handle honesty cuz u been listening to froofy prince corn syrup too long .. can't handle the real deal .. git yer panties in a bunch if eye don't handle prince with kid gloves .. keep defending a 250 dollar short set of 2010 out takes and a 10 minute sampler set of 30 second snippets of songs you actually want to hear .. y'all are just nuts .. prince knows what his good songs are .. they end up in the sampler or piano medley .. y'all are truly happy with this rubbish? .. fine .. everyone with a clue knows prince should play his good songs all the way thru and feature them instead of this rubbish in his set .. especially for 250 .. they dont have to be hits .. just the good songs .. simple as that ..

You make NO relevant points. You constantly try to discredit Prince because of your own jealousy. You refuse to respond to points whenever you get caught lying ( the lies about Prince needing click tracks on drums, the lies about Wendy and Lisa being robbed off credits on SOTT). You are by far the most stubborn and ignorant poster on this website. You are the one who cannot handle when you get proven wrong. You also cannot handle the fact that many of us like atleast some of his recent work. You are essentially like an immature teenager who believes that other people shouldn't like something just because you don't like it.

hhhhhmmmmthtptt .. hands down you are the king of attempting to put words in my mouth .. i stand by my posts in the context they originally appeared .. you follow me from post to post like an obsessive stalker arguing that my opinion shouldn't be stated only because you don't like that i am right and you know it .. ps .. cobains guitar tone DESTROYS prince when it comes to guitar music that kicks your ass .. and his songwriting is close if not equal to prince .. cobain is not technically great but what he does do he does far better than prince attempts at hard rock .. and cobain screams better than prince .. yup .. i said it cuz it's true .. suck on that hhhhhhmmmmmpppthtpt

Now Now Now, we aren't stalkers here, we just love Prince and we defend him. (I think thats why it's called Prince.org) and as far as comparisons are concerned "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder"...."everyone has an opinion".....you have yours, I have mine, so let's just be respectful of each other and each others opinions...............no need to get nasty up in here!

TrevorAyer said:

hhhhhmmmmthtptt .. hands down you are the king of attempting to put words in my mouth .. i stand by my posts in the context they originally appeared .. you follow me from post to post like an obsessive stalker arguing that my opinion shouldn't be stated only because you don't like that i am right and you know it .. ps .. cobains guitar tone DESTROYS prince when it comes to guitar music that kicks your ass .. and his songwriting is close if not equal to prince .. cobain is not technically great but what he does do he does far better than prince attempts at hard rock .. and cobain screams better than prince .. yup .. i said it cuz it's true .. suck on that hhhhhhmmmmmpppthtpt

He opened with a sampler set in Raleigh and it got the house PUMPED! It sounded great and I loved it.

TrevorAyer said:

hhhhhmmmmthtptt .. hands down you are the king of attempting to put words in my mouth .. i stand by my posts in the context they originally appeared .. you follow me from post to post like an obsessive stalker arguing that my opinion shouldn't be stated only because you don't like that i am right and you know it .. ps .. cobains guitar tone DESTROYS prince when it comes to guitar music that kicks your ass .. and his songwriting is close if not equal to prince .. cobain is not technically great but what he does do he does far better than prince attempts at hard rock .. and cobain screams better than prince .. yup .. i said it cuz it's true .. suck on that hhhhhhmmmmmpppthtpt

no you are not right. You are wrong and you know it. Prince does not merely attempt hard rock, he is excellent at hard rock. Cobains lead playing is nowhere near the level of Prince. And Prince gets massive props from actual guitar greats.

You don't even know how to strum your guitar, seriously go listen to your own recordings before criticising someone else's guitar work. Prince is a great guitarist, yup i said cuz its true. Now you go suck on that.

[Edited 5/4/13 17:39pm]

TrevorAyer said:

hhhhhmmmmthtptt .. hands down you are the king of attempting to put words in my mouth .. i stand by my posts in the context they originally appeared .. you follow me from post to post like an obsessive stalker arguing that my opinion shouldn't be stated only because you don't like that i am right and you know it .. ps .. cobains guitar tone DESTROYS prince when it comes to guitar music that kicks your ass .. and his songwriting is close if not equal to prince .. cobain is not technically great but what he does do he does far better than prince attempts at hard rock .. and cobain screams better than prince .. yup .. i said it cuz it's true .. suck on that hhhhhhmmmmmpppthtpt

Guitar tone is a bit vague. And a matter of taste, I would think.

TrevorAyer said:

isnt he doing it basically cause the crybaby fans who feel cheated if the dont hear SOME hits during a show....

MadamGoodnight said:

trax said:

I hate the karaoke set. He is old though and its a good way to rest and keep the show going. I give him credit for trying. Piano medley and acoustic medley is the same thing. He needs to rest. Thats also why the shows are only 80 minutes now. Its really not worth going anymore to me. I like the setlist alot though pre karaoke set. Its a shame that he does it on this tour.(at least to me)

Prince played for hours and hours at SXSW. He's doing 2 shows a night this time around, not just one. Old? I think of old and B.B. King comes to mind, (who still plays, by the way).

yeah and the length of the two shows equals one show. It cracks me up how Prince is getting over on his fans. He cant get the money he wants in one show at this size venue so he splits it up into two half shows to get the amount he wants for playing each night. It sucks because these are his die hard fans he is doing this too not the casual fan. He has become a true scammer!! Why not just play venues like The Fox or 7,000 seat small venues and play a full show at $150.00 a ticket? It would sell out and it would be mostly die hard fans there so he can still play the new stuff and people wont complain. All the scamming and being all about money is just really frustrating with Prince. What has happened to him? I guess it is true the money turns everyone out!! $277 for an 80 minute show with a 20 minute sampler set included...no thanks. I am sure the first hour is great but its not worth it to me. Guess I am not die hard enough huh?

trax said:

yeah and the length of the two shows equals one show. It cracks me up how Prince is getting over on his fans. He cant get the money he wants in one show at this size venue so he splits it up into two half shows to get the amount he wants for playing each night. It sucks because these are his die hard fans he is doing this too not the casual fan. He has become a true scammer!! Why not just play venues like The Fox or 7,000 seat small venues and play a full show at $150.00 a ticket? It would sell out and it would be mostly die hard fans there so he can still play the new stuff and people wont complain. All the scamming and being all about money is just really frustrating with Prince. What has happened to him? I guess it is true the money turns everyone out!! $277 for an 80 minute show with a 20 minute sampler set included...no thanks. I am sure the first hour is great but its not worth it to me. Guess I am not die hard enough huh?

$277 for 80 minutes is a pretty hardcore price, even with today's standards.

So why waste time with sampler set playfulness?