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Reply #30 posted 03/23/13 3:17pm

jackmitz

Fonkyman said:


Money Don't Matter 2Night - $250 pop extended.
A Case Of Cash
Live Out Loadsamoney
All My Dreams (accounts mix) - Donna and Hannah can touch Wendy & Lisas parts.
Breakfast Can Wait, I'm counting greens.
Beautiful, Loved and Loaded.
All The Critics Love U In The Bank
Let's Pretend We're Loaded
Love or Money Money Money.
Crazy You.
The Beautiful Dimes.
Endorphcashmachine.



Man, how about a Whine You Wanna Treat Me So Bad encore? Get over it. The guy deserves to be well-compensated for a tour. He's doing us all a solid by playing small rooms. The $250 for a club show is a WAY better value than $500+ to sit in one of those dopey Purple Circle seats that surrounded the symbol stage.
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Reply #31 posted 03/23/13 3:59pm

teiemka

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errant said:

Angel

Disco Heat

We're A Winner

Love thy Will Be Done (no Prince vocals)

Play That Funky Music

I Never Loved a Man The Way I Loved You

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Santana medley

Everyday People

Brown Skin

lol

1st Encore:

Put yo hands up. (Shouty J)

All Along The Watchtower.
Real music by real musicans sampler set.
Come Together.

Party over here y'all? (Shouty J)

Oops, just saw it.

[Edited 3/23/13 16:23pm]

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Reply #32 posted 03/23/13 4:22pm

teiemka

They are small venues, the price is steep, and it's pretty much going to be just hardcore fans.

It's the perfect setup to play new music, but does he have the courage to do that and the belief in the new music...

I certainly hope so. beg

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Reply #33 posted 03/23/13 5:02pm

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BOOM
Dark (think this song would be awesome with live instruments)
Satisfied
Dear Mr. Man
Musicology
Ol' Skool Company (surprise!)
Cream
On The Couch
Get Yo Groove On
How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore?
Breakfast Can Wait
Chocolate Box
Props 'n Pounds
Hide The Bone (not that he's gonna perform such a 'sexual' song nowadays)

And about 30 more. I actually don't really mind but I don't prefer his somewhat 'heavier' songs such as Endorphinmachine and Dreamer, which most of you here do seem to prefer.

Oh and I don't live near the US anyway so I won't even be able to see Prince and 3rd Eye Girl perform unless they schedule those oversees tourdates theyve been speculating about as well..
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Reply #34 posted 03/23/13 5:08pm

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Damn I forgot Ripopgodazippa but there's no way he's gonna perform that either.
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Reply #35 posted 03/24/13 3:24am

Fonkyman

jackmitz said:

Man, how about a Whine You Wanna Treat Me So Bad encore? Get over it. The guy deserves to be well-compensated for a tour. He's doing us all a solid by playing small rooms. The $250 for a club show is a WAY better value than $500+ to sit in one of those dopey Purple Circle seats that surrounded the symbol stage.

Neither are very reasonable. Average Joe doesn't have that kind of money to lash out on a gig. As nice as the small venue gigs are. I paid £25 a ticket for a few of his club gigs, admittedly they were afters. Went VIP one night, same club, £80 odd. ONA was pretty small too, less than 4000 capacity, bout £50 a ticket upstairs. Shit, that was eleven years ago. confused

Thanks anyway, I've got Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad in my head now. Add that to the 'live list'. wink

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Reply #36 posted 03/24/13 3:37am

Fonkyman

Mixed setlists for both shows.

Positivity.
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night.
Mountains.
New Position.
America (And no messin about, P on the gee-tar. Special guests Eric, Atlanta and Sheila).
Around The World In A Day.
Beautiful Strange.
Aint Gon Miss U When U Go.
Paisley Park.
The Ladder. (P on Piano, Eric on Sax).
Down. (A lot like it)
Baby You're A Trip.
Party Up.
Breakfast Can Wait.
100 MPH
We Can Funk.
Joy In Repetition
Head. lol
When We're Dancing Close And Slow.
Venus De Milo.
Condition Of The Heart.
Sometimes It Snows In April.
Villanova Junction.
Bambi.
Something In The Water Does Not Compute.
Computer Blue. (Special Guests, well, yeah.)
Do Yourself A Favour.
The Undertaker.
What Did I Do.
The Ride.
Race.
Possessed.
All Day, All Night.
Superfunkycalifragisexy.
Tamborine.
Satisfied. (Cock eyes and three handed. Three eyed too.)
Muse 2 The Pharoah
Old friends 4 Sale. (Proper version).
Tonight Is Fine? (Got my mind made up, oh to get a pretty girl, any time, tonight is fine)
When The Lights Go Down.
Lovesexy.
The Cross.
Don't Play Me.
Damn U.
On The Couch.
Somewhere Here On Earth.
Girls & Boys.
Shockadelica.
Le Grind.
Something new.
Movie Star.
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothin, (Open up the door, I'll get it myself - James Brown cover).
Same Page, Different Book.
Partyman.
When U Were Mine.
If I Had A Harem (Blues In C).
Dance Music Sex Romance.
COOL.
Purple Rain.
1999.
Something new.
If You Want Me To Stay (Sly Stone Cover).
Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad.
Controversy.
Housequake.
Forever In My Life.
The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker.
Something new.
Something new.
Something new.
All The Critics Love U In ...

1st Encore:

Thank You For Letting Me Be Myself Again (Special Guest Sly Stone)
I Want To Take You Higher (Ditto)
1+1+1 is 3.
Starfish and Coffee.
Strange Relationship.
Automatic.
Alphabet Street.

2nd Encore:

It.

Anna Stesia.
Strollin.
You Want Me.
Still Waiting.
Something new.
Sign O The Times.
Something new.
Play In The Sunshine.

3rd Encore:

Shhh.
Purple House.
Peach Jam.
Raspberry Beret.
Mothership Connection Star Child. (Special Guests: George Clinton, Sly Stone, Bootsy Collins.)
Give Up The Funk (Tear the roof off) (Special Guests George Clinton, Sly Stone, Bootsy, Sheila, Eric, Atlanta, Maceo, Wendy, Lisa and Bobby.)
Something new.

That's more than your money's worth.

Afterparty?

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Reply #37 posted 03/24/13 11:16am

jackmitz

Fonkyman said:



jackmitz said:



Man, how about a Whine You Wanna Treat Me So Bad encore? Get over it. The guy deserves to be well-compensated for a tour. He's doing us all a solid by playing small rooms. The $250 for a club show is a WAY better value than $500+ to sit in one of those dopey Purple Circle seats that surrounded the symbol stage.




Neither are very reasonable. Average Joe doesn't have that kind of money to lash out on a gig. As nice as the small venue gigs are. I paid £25 a ticket for a few of his club gigs, admittedly they were afters. Went VIP one night, same club, £80 odd. ONA was pretty small too, less than 4000 capacity, bout £50 a ticket upstairs. Shit, that was eleven years ago. confused



Thanks anyway, I've got Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad in my head now. Add that to the 'live list'. wink




It's all relative. People pay $100+ to see Coldplay in an arena, and the same to see Maroon 5 in an arena. Both are rigid setlist shows with no surprises. And people pay WAY more than that to see Madonna in a stadium.

I, too, have seen plenty of aftershows, but that's not a fair comparison, as the main show has paid for the your (crew, band, craft services, payout to the venue, etc). In Seattle, there are 4,400 total tickets available. That's for all four shows combined. In order for P to get his rate, ticket prices are going to go up.
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Reply #38 posted 03/24/13 2:23pm

Fonkyman

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It's all relative. People pay $100+ to see Coldplay in an arena, and the same to see Maroon 5 in an arena. Both are rigid setlist shows with no surprises. And people pay WAY more than that to see Madonna in a stadium. I, too, have seen plenty of aftershows, but that's not a fair comparison, as the main show has paid for the your (crew, band, craft services, payout to the venue, etc). In Seattle, there are 4,400 total tickets available. That's for all four shows combined. In order for P to get his rate, ticket prices are going to go up.

That's it in a nutshell. Do more shows, bring the price down, don't bite the hand that feeds ya.

If you're comparing paying to see Madge or Coldplay to P I don't have an argument. I see your point though. I'd sell tickets to either of those if I was given em.

[Edited 3/24/13 14:36pm]

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Reply #39 posted 03/24/13 4:14pm

jackmitz

Fonkyman said:



jackmitz said:



It's all relative. People pay $100+ to see Coldplay in an arena, and the same to see Maroon 5 in an arena. Both are rigid setlist shows with no surprises. And people pay WAY more than that to see Madonna in a stadium. I, too, have seen plenty of aftershows, but that's not a fair comparison, as the main show has paid for the your (crew, band, craft services, payout to the venue, etc). In Seattle, there are 4,400 total tickets available. That's for all four shows combined. In order for P to get his rate, ticket prices are going to go up.




That's it in a nutshell. Do more shows, bring the price down, don't bite the hand that feeds ya.



If you're comparing paying to see Madge or Coldplay to P I don't have an argument. I see your point though. I'd sell tickets to either of those if I was given em.


[Edited 3/24/13 14:36pm]



Look, I'd rather be seeing 12 shows at $50 a pop. But if he does 12 shows in Seattle, people in Los Angeles, Vegas, Phoenix, and San Fran will all bitch that they're getting skipped. In other words, there will always be unhappy fans.
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Reply #40 posted 03/24/13 5:32pm

Fonkyman

Look,

jackmitz said:

Man, how about a Whine You Wanna Treat Me So Bad encore? Get over it.

shrug lol

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Reply #41 posted 03/24/13 5:39pm

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There are so many songs I'd like to hear, but presuming he's going minimal and is actually going to go with the drums, guitar, guitar, bass set up, and also considering some of the material we've heard him perform with 3rd Eye Girl, there are songs I think would be better suited for the set and I'd love to hear.

I'm Yours

The Cross

Cream

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man

The Best Of You

Cream

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Reply #42 posted 03/24/13 5:48pm

jackmitz

Fonkyman said:


Look,




jackmitz said:



Man, how about a Whine You Wanna Treat Me So Bad encore? Get over it.




shrug lol





I meant that in the most respectful way. Really, I was just psyched to join in in the song name parody game.
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Reply #43 posted 03/24/13 5:53pm

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cool

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Reply #44 posted 03/25/13 5:10am

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I just want to hear 'Pass The Peas' one more time and I can die happy. Maybe with Shelby telling me to put my hands up.
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Reply #45 posted 03/25/13 9:06am

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Scotsman1999 said:

I just want to hear 'Pass The Peas' one more time and I can die happy. Maybe with Shelby telling me to put my hands up.

Wait...what's wrong with Maceo's "Pass the Peas"?! Too funky for you?!

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Reply #46 posted 03/28/13 6:51am

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there is only one song that I want hear: Cosmic Day.....

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Reply #47 posted 03/28/13 9:57am

eelco

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errant said:

Angel

lol

1st Encore:

.......
Real music by real musicans sampler set.
.......

lol love the sarcasm

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Reply #48 posted 03/28/13 10:26am

TrevorAyer

Here is tha thang! That Prince thang!

Not since the revolution has a Prince band sounded like a Prince record.

Sure the ONA band could pull off Rainbow Chillin, but they sound horrible on most of the 'hits' and favorites.

NPG gold era played the gold album well and even some old prince songs decent. Such as 'vickie waiting' and 'let it go'. They strait up avoided the revolution classics tho.

Most bands prince has had since just completely butcher his classic material. They sound worse than your average bar band. I may even go so far as to say there are high school bands that could recreate prince classic studio sound live better. The musicians themselves are capable and sometimes virtuosic. Such as John Blackwell, who is a great drummer, but hearing the muffled thud of his jazz snare on a prince track that had clear crisp drum patterns as a highlight, or hearing renatos horrible keyboard tones replace the sleazy overdrivin synths of the past, really ruin some songs for me. As do the jazz, white funk interpretations that discard numerous elements of his music that made it genius and not just another 12 bars blues structure with some corny lyrics about sex.

I listened to both Dakota 5 and 6 recently and was tremendously disappointed. Once again, Prince has ideas I love. Even the garbage in the setlist, such as 'screwdriver' or 'cause and effect' aren't bad ideas. I like hearing new tunes if only out of curiousity. But it is the delivery and band performance that leaves me feeling bad for prince that he can't find a better band.

The guitar heavy theme and small club tour concept behind the 3rd eye girl setlist is a respectable idea from prince. This would be great with Michael Bland and Sonny T and maybe a 2nd talented guitarist that knows how to rock. The NPG had a pretty great lineup for solid rock, and a thick sound. Even the revolution would probably sound weak on tracks like bambi or endorphine, where Bland and Sonny would absolutely bring the heavy on these songs.

3rd eye girl cannot handle these songs at all. First, the guitar tones, both prince and shaved girl, guitar tones are the absolute worse I have ever heard from a Prince group. Both are weak, thin and lack the heavy of the gold era band. Second the shaved girls solos are pretty much the same exact solo every time she takes a lead. Prince has never been a terribly interesting soloist, he nails it every once in a while, but a lot of times you can cut and paste the solos from one song to the next .. some high note hanging intro with some fast runs, hits the flange lets it wash .. or maybe pics a 3 note slow melody to repeat and bore at nauseum. But this shaved girl is worse. I think prince tries a little harder to keep his solos fresh but really needs to listen to more gilmore, hendrix, santana and page to get an understanding of making a memorable solo instead of just filling space.

The bass player in 3rd eye is actually really good. She does a lot more interesting stuff than both guitarist. Hannah is a pretty basic uninspiring drummer. Pretty much anybody from prince past, even kirky j, would be a better drummer. Honestly.

I still have to ask ... why bring this group out when you could pay the good musicians from the past to bang out a guitar heavy tour like this and have it actually kick as much ass as a full revolution tour.

As an Idea a tour like this is great. But as it really is, with his usual very subpar musicians, I fear this may be the final nail in the creative coffin and its back to the hits covers fair ground circuit.

I could list a billion prince songs I would love to hear in this style as others have done, but after hearing the dakotas, yikes .. even the groupies will be cringing the whole show

Prince could do a revolution tour based on that era (including sign) and he could get back to competing with the big boys, like madonna and the stones.

Prince could do a cool guitar based tour like this with Gold era NPG and it would be a smash success even with his bad later songs ... like endorphine machine (hey ever notice how I used to complain that the 'you there in the think tank' part was stupid, and now he has dropped it, same thing happened when I complained about the 'u make my sunshine' bridge .. and he dropped that too .. hmmmm) .. NPG could take the worst prince song and kill it and make it blow your hair back.

Prince could grab the blackwell group and hit his jazz songs (no i dont mean ruin his songs by turning them jazz) but actually focus on that style doing she spoke 2 me type songs .. and it would be cool (even tho bland is capable too)

But throwing together such a bad band to push prince least successful genre (dreamer is no voodoo chile by a long shot) is not gonna fly.

So I hope they don't play any songs. This experiement should have ended quicker than andy allo. Prince needs to get back to what he is good at and end the half covers setlists and end the half assed band line up issues. He can't possibly be so broke as to hire this group as his only option.

Oh and as always .. prince please ditch the pj's ... rolleyes

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Reply #49 posted 03/28/13 11:45am

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Duh...

Easy!

Very few hits.

Obscure stuff. Newer stuff (less than 10 years old).

Unreleased stuff.

Maybe a cover version, but not too many in the main show. Maybe more in the aftergigs.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #50 posted 03/28/13 12:47pm

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Yikes. Some of these posts are depressing! lol

My hopes are simple: no covers, new material, and very few hits. Also, no sampler sets.

Maybe someone can answer this, but how can a lot of the classic songs be played without a keyboardist? In the 3rd Eye Girl lineup, there's no one who plays keyboard, excluding Prince, so I wonder if/how that's going to impact the set list. Unless it doesn't matter? Or Prince may alternate between guitar and keys?

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Reply #51 posted 03/28/13 1:07pm

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why he performes so many covers anyway? is he tired of his own songs or what? It's better he perform new songs than stupid covers lol
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Reply #52 posted 03/28/13 1:59pm

jackmitz

TrevorAyer said:

Here is tha thang! That Prince thang!

Not since the revolution has a Prince band sounded like a Prince record.

Sure the ONA band could pull off Rainbow Chillin, but they sound horrible on most of the 'hits' and favorites.

NPG gold era played the gold album well and even some old prince songs decent. Such as 'vickie waiting' and 'let it go'. They strait up avoided the revolution classics tho.

Most bands prince has had since just completely butcher his classic material. They sound worse than your average bar band. I may even go so far as to say there are high school bands that could recreate prince classic studio sound live better. The musicians themselves are capable and sometimes virtuosic. Such as John Blackwell, who is a great drummer, but hearing the muffled thud of his jazz snare on a prince track that had clear crisp drum patterns as a highlight, or hearing renatos horrible keyboard tones replace the sleazy overdrivin synths of the past, really ruin some songs for me. As do the jazz, white funk interpretations that discard numerous elements of his music that made it genius and not just another 12 bars blues structure with some corny lyrics about sex.

I listened to both Dakota 5 and 6 recently and was tremendously disappointed. Once again, Prince has ideas I love. Even the garbage in the setlist, such as 'screwdriver' or 'cause and effect' aren't bad ideas. I like hearing new tunes if only out of curiousity. But it is the delivery and band performance that leaves me feeling bad for prince that he can't find a better band.

The guitar heavy theme and small club tour concept behind the 3rd eye girl setlist is a respectable idea from prince. This would be great with Michael Bland and Sonny T and maybe a 2nd talented guitarist that knows how to rock. The NPG had a pretty great lineup for solid rock, and a thick sound. Even the revolution would probably sound weak on tracks like bambi or endorphine, where Bland and Sonny would absolutely bring the heavy on these songs.

3rd eye girl cannot handle these songs at all. First, the guitar tones, both prince and shaved girl, guitar tones are the absolute worse I have ever heard from a Prince group. Both are weak, thin and lack the heavy of the gold era band. Second the shaved girls solos are pretty much the same exact solo every time she takes a lead. Prince has never been a terribly interesting soloist, he nails it every once in a while, but a lot of times you can cut and paste the solos from one song to the next .. some high note hanging intro with some fast runs, hits the flange lets it wash .. or maybe pics a 3 note slow melody to repeat and bore at nauseum. But this shaved girl is worse. I think prince tries a little harder to keep his solos fresh but really needs to listen to more gilmore, hendrix, santana and page to get an understanding of making a memorable solo instead of just filling space.

The bass player in 3rd eye is actually really good. She does a lot more interesting stuff than both guitarist. Hannah is a pretty basic uninspiring drummer. Pretty much anybody from prince past, even kirky j, would be a better drummer. Honestly.

I still have to ask ... why bring this group out when you could pay the good musicians from the past to bang out a guitar heavy tour like this and have it actually kick as much ass as a full revolution tour.

As an Idea a tour like this is great. But as it really is, with his usual very subpar musicians, I fear this may be the final nail in the creative coffin and its back to the hits covers fair ground circuit.

I could list a billion prince songs I would love to hear in this style as others have done, but after hearing the dakotas, yikes .. even the groupies will be cringing the whole show

Prince could do a revolution tour based on that era (including sign) and he could get back to competing with the big boys, like madonna and the stones.

Prince could do a cool guitar based tour like this with Gold era NPG and it would be a smash success even with his bad later songs ... like endorphine machine (hey ever notice how I used to complain that the 'you there in the think tank' part was stupid, and now he has dropped it, same thing happened when I complained about the 'u make my sunshine' bridge .. and he dropped that too .. hmmmm) .. NPG could take the worst prince song and kill it and make it blow your hair back.

Prince could grab the blackwell group and hit his jazz songs (no i dont mean ruin his songs by turning them jazz) but actually focus on that style doing she spoke 2 me type songs .. and it would be cool (even tho bland is capable too)

But throwing together such a bad band to push prince least successful genre (dreamer is no voodoo chile by a long shot) is not gonna fly.

So I hope they don't play any songs. This experiement should have ended quicker than andy allo. Prince needs to get back to what he is good at and end the half covers setlists and end the half assed band line up issues. He can't possibly be so broke as to hire this group as his only option.

Oh and as always .. prince please ditch the pj's ... rolleyes

You really think that you're qualified to judge the quality of this band based on a few studio demos and an Jimmy Fallon appearance?! How about dropping the elitist bs and letting this band develop. It takes time for ANY band to gel, and I , for one, feel so fortunate that I get to see them FOUR times, and watch them grow before my eyes.

And, really...Endorphine Machine is a "bad" song?! That's just crazy talk.

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Reply #53 posted 03/28/13 2:04pm

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TrevorAyer said:

Here is tha thang! That Prince thang!

Not since the revolution has a Prince band sounded like a Prince record.

Sure the ONA band could pull off Rainbow Chillin, but they sound horrible on most of the 'hits' and favorites.

NPG gold era played the gold album well and even some old prince songs decent. Such as 'vickie waiting' and 'let it go'. They strait up avoided the revolution classics tho.

Most bands prince has had since just completely butcher his classic material. They sound worse than your average bar band. I may even go so far as to say there are high school bands that could recreate prince classic studio sound live better. The musicians themselves are capable and sometimes virtuosic. Such as John Blackwell, who is a great drummer, but hearing the muffled thud of his jazz snare on a prince track that had clear crisp drum patterns as a highlight, or hearing renatos horrible keyboard tones replace the sleazy overdrivin synths of the past, really ruin some songs for me. As do the jazz, white funk interpretations that discard numerous elements of his music that made it genius and not just another 12 bars blues structure with some corny lyrics about sex.

I listened to both Dakota 5 and 6 recently and was tremendously disappointed. Once again, Prince has ideas I love. Even the garbage in the setlist, such as 'screwdriver' or 'cause and effect' aren't bad ideas. I like hearing new tunes if only out of curiousity. But it is the delivery and band performance that leaves me feeling bad for prince that he can't find a better band.

The guitar heavy theme and small club tour concept behind the 3rd eye girl setlist is a respectable idea from prince. This would be great with Michael Bland and Sonny T and maybe a 2nd talented guitarist that knows how to rock. The NPG had a pretty great lineup for solid rock, and a thick sound. Even the revolution would probably sound weak on tracks like bambi or endorphine, where Bland and Sonny would absolutely bring the heavy on these songs.

3rd eye girl cannot handle these songs at all. First, the guitar tones, both prince and shaved girl, guitar tones are the absolute worse I have ever heard from a Prince group. Both are weak, thin and lack the heavy of the gold era band. Second the shaved girls solos are pretty much the same exact solo every time she takes a lead. Prince has never been a terribly interesting soloist, he nails it every once in a while, but a lot of times you can cut and paste the solos from one song to the next .. some high note hanging intro with some fast runs, hits the flange lets it wash .. or maybe pics a 3 note slow melody to repeat and bore at nauseum. But this shaved girl is worse. I think prince tries a little harder to keep his solos fresh but really needs to listen to more gilmore, hendrix, santana and page to get an understanding of making a memorable solo instead of just filling space.

The bass player in 3rd eye is actually really good. She does a lot more interesting stuff than both guitarist. Hannah is a pretty basic uninspiring drummer. Pretty much anybody from prince past, even kirky j, would be a better drummer. Honestly.

I still have to ask ... why bring this group out when you could pay the good musicians from the past to bang out a guitar heavy tour like this and have it actually kick as much ass as a full revolution tour.

As an Idea a tour like this is great. But as it really is, with his usual very subpar musicians, I fear this may be the final nail in the creative coffin and its back to the hits covers fair ground circuit.

I could list a billion prince songs I would love to hear in this style as others have done, but after hearing the dakotas, yikes .. even the groupies will be cringing the whole show

Prince could do a revolution tour based on that era (including sign) and he could get back to competing with the big boys, like madonna and the stones.

Prince could do a cool guitar based tour like this with Gold era NPG and it would be a smash success even with his bad later songs ... like endorphine machine (hey ever notice how I used to complain that the 'you there in the think tank' part was stupid, and now he has dropped it, same thing happened when I complained about the 'u make my sunshine' bridge .. and he dropped that too .. hmmmm) .. NPG could take the worst prince song and kill it and make it blow your hair back.

Prince could grab the blackwell group and hit his jazz songs (no i dont mean ruin his songs by turning them jazz) but actually focus on that style doing she spoke 2 me type songs .. and it would be cool (even tho bland is capable too)

But throwing together such a bad band to push prince least successful genre (dreamer is no voodoo chile by a long shot) is not gonna fly.

So I hope they don't play any songs. This experiement should have ended quicker than andy allo. Prince needs to get back to what he is good at and end the half covers setlists and end the half assed band line up issues. He can't possibly be so broke as to hire this group as his only option.

Oh and as always .. prince please ditch the pj's ... rolleyes

I usually hate your posts but you are spot on on this one.

Years ago I posted that I dont want to hear certain songs played with new bands. There's a reason he doesnt play certain songs with certain bands I believe. I mean who wants to hear Computer Blue played by the new band? Not I said the fly.. And yeah this band seems to be a rock themed band so some shit like Shes Always In My Hair fits but some shit..please dont. Like I cant imagine him doing IIWYG with this band. That would seem wack.

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Reply #54 posted 03/28/13 3:37pm

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jackmitz .. eye heard 2 of the recent dakota shows w/ 3rd eye girl while they ran thru a 90 minute set .. not just fallon and posted demos .. eye like to critique and review .. it's wut eye do

rdhull .. bout time u came round lol

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Reply #55 posted 03/28/13 4:07pm

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jackmitz .. eye heard 2 of the recent dakota shows w/ 3rd eye girl while they ran thru a 90 minute set .. not just fallon and posted demos .. eye like to critique and review .. it's wut eye do

rdhull .. bout time u came round lol

Yeah...I don't know that lousy audience recordings are an apt model on which to judge. And those were the first shows featuring the new band. Again, it takes time for ANY band to gel.

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Reply #56 posted 03/28/13 4:41pm

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LittleBear said:

Yikes. Some of these posts are depressing! lol

My hopes are simple: no covers, new material, and very few hits. Also, no sampler sets.

Maybe someone can answer this, but how can a lot of the classic songs be played without a keyboardist? In the 3rd Eye Girl lineup, there's no one who plays keyboard, excluding Prince, so I wonder if/how that's going to impact the set list. Unless it doesn't matter? Or Prince may alternate between guitar and keys?

I wondered this myself. I'm hoping Cassandra or Morris Hayes will guest on some songs at the shows, but if not, I'm guessing Donna will play the melodies using guitar chords that Prince comes up with and Prince will "fill in" space by using "colors". I do think that 3rd Eye Girl is a better band than Josh and Cora Dunham. Ida is probably the most talented instrumentalist in the band. However, Hannah's enthusiasm is infectious and youthful and I'm hoping he will use this as inspiration to finally record an album and release it. With these small venues, I can't imagine he'll feel obligated to play the hits especially when the fans will get to see up close and personal.

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Reply #57 posted 03/28/13 5:45pm

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I just realised it takes more time and effort to type eye in place of I. That's dedicated stupidity.

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Reply #58 posted 03/29/13 5:47am

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TrevorAyer said:

Here is tha thang! That Prince thang!

Not since the revolution has a Prince band sounded like a Prince record.

Sure the ONA band could pull off Rainbow Chillin, but they sound horrible on most of the 'hits' and favorites.

NPG gold era played the gold album well and even some old prince songs decent. Such as 'vickie waiting' and 'let it go'. They strait up avoided the revolution classics tho.

Most bands prince has had since just completely butcher his classic material. They sound worse than your average bar band. I may even go so far as to say there are high school bands that could recreate prince classic studio sound live better. The musicians themselves are capable and sometimes virtuosic. Such as John Blackwell, who is a great drummer, but hearing the muffled thud of his jazz snare on a prince track that had clear crisp drum patterns as a highlight, or hearing renatos horrible keyboard tones replace the sleazy overdrivin synths of the past, really ruin some songs for me. As do the jazz, white funk interpretations that discard numerous elements of his music that made it genius and not just another 12 bars blues structure with some corny lyrics about sex.

I listened to both Dakota 5 and 6 recently and was tremendously disappointed. Once again, Prince has ideas I love. Even the garbage in the setlist, such as 'screwdriver' or 'cause and effect' aren't bad ideas. I like hearing new tunes if only out of curiousity. But it is the delivery and band performance that leaves me feeling bad for prince that he can't find a better band.

The guitar heavy theme and small club tour concept behind the 3rd eye girl setlist is a respectable idea from prince. This would be great with Michael Bland and Sonny T and maybe a 2nd talented guitarist that knows how to rock. The NPG had a pretty great lineup for solid rock, and a thick sound. Even the revolution would probably sound weak on tracks like bambi or endorphine, where Bland and Sonny would absolutely bring the heavy on these songs.

3rd eye girl cannot handle these songs at all. First, the guitar tones, both prince and shaved girl, guitar tones are the absolute worse I have ever heard from a Prince group. Both are weak, thin and lack the heavy of the gold era band. Second the shaved girls solos are pretty much the same exact solo every time she takes a lead. Prince has never been a terribly interesting soloist, he nails it every once in a while, but a lot of times you can cut and paste the solos from one song to the next .. some high note hanging intro with some fast runs, hits the flange lets it wash .. or maybe pics a 3 note slow melody to repeat and bore at nauseum. But this shaved girl is worse. I think prince tries a little harder to keep his solos fresh but really needs to listen to more gilmore, hendrix, santana and page to get an understanding of making a memorable solo instead of just filling space.

The bass player in 3rd eye is actually really good. She does a lot more interesting stuff than both guitarist. Hannah is a pretty basic uninspiring drummer. Pretty much anybody from prince past, even kirky j, would be a better drummer. Honestly.

I still have to ask ... why bring this group out when you could pay the good musicians from the past to bang out a guitar heavy tour like this and have it actually kick as much ass as a full revolution tour.

As an Idea a tour like this is great. But as it really is, with his usual very subpar musicians, I fear this may be the final nail in the creative coffin and its back to the hits covers fair ground circuit.

I could list a billion prince songs I would love to hear in this style as others have done, but after hearing the dakotas, yikes .. even the groupies will be cringing the whole show

Prince could do a revolution tour based on that era (including sign) and he could get back to competing with the big boys, like madonna and the stones.

Prince could do a cool guitar based tour like this with Gold era NPG and it would be a smash success even with his bad later songs ... like endorphine machine (hey ever notice how I used to complain that the 'you there in the think tank' part was stupid, and now he has dropped it, same thing happened when I complained about the 'u make my sunshine' bridge .. and he dropped that too .. hmmmm) .. NPG could take the worst prince song and kill it and make it blow your hair back.

Prince could grab the blackwell group and hit his jazz songs (no i dont mean ruin his songs by turning them jazz) but actually focus on that style doing she spoke 2 me type songs .. and it would be cool (even tho bland is capable too)

But throwing together such a bad band to push prince least successful genre (dreamer is no voodoo chile by a long shot) is not gonna fly.

So I hope they don't play any songs. This experiement should have ended quicker than andy allo. Prince needs to get back to what he is good at and end the half covers setlists and end the half assed band line up issues. He can't possibly be so broke as to hire this group as his only option.

Oh and as always .. prince please ditch the pj's ... rolleyes

I must admit - one of the best observations EVER! BRAVO!comfort

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Reply #59 posted 03/31/13 11:13pm

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bashraka said:

LittleBear said:

Maybe someone can answer this, but how can a lot of the classic songs be played without a keyboardist? In the 3rd Eye Girl lineup, there's no one who plays keyboard, excluding Prince, so I wonder if/how that's going to impact the set list. Unless it doesn't matter? Or Prince may alternate between guitar and keys?

I wondered this myself. I'm hoping Cassandra or Morris Hayes will guest on some songs at the shows, but if not, I'm guessing Donna will play the melodies using guitar chords that Prince comes up with and Prince will "fill in" space by using "colors". I do think that 3rd Eye Girl is a better band than Josh and Cora Dunham. Ida is probably the most talented instrumentalist in the band. However, Hannah's enthusiasm is infectious and youthful and I'm hoping he will use this as inspiration to finally record an album and release it. With these small venues, I can't imagine he'll feel obligated to play the hits especially when the fans will get to see up close and personal.

We may have gotten an answer of sorts with the new 3rd Eye Girl video. cool I still might miss the keyboards for an entire concert, but it's interesting to hear Prince et al. experiment with song arrangements... Btw, I'd be happy with the setlist you originally posted, plus Down, The Undertaker, Positivity, and Computer Blue.

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