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PARADE's lack of good tracks? How come Prince said only "Kiss"
was worthwhile on Parade. Meanwhile he had countless tracks available to his disposal?? Cause they didn't fit into the flow of the film? Maybe ... | |
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origmnd said: How come Prince said only "Kiss"
was worthwhile on Parade. Meanwhile he had countless tracks available to his disposal?? Cause they didn't fit into the flow of the film? Maybe ... Aint a bad track on Parade... If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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I think it was because he rushed the album and really didn't get to accomplish what he wanted with it. | |
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Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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origmnd said: How come Prince said only "Kiss"
was worthwhile on Parade. Meanwhile he had countless tracks available to his disposal?? Cause they didn't fit into the flow of the film? Maybe ... WTF? Parade is one of his best albums!! I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos | |
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I have to say it again and again, but anyone who claims that Parade lacks good tracks has never heard 'Sometimes It Snows In April.
Or Mountains. Or New Position/I Wonder U. Or Under The Cherry Moon. Or Girls And Boys (!). Etc... "How embarrasing to be human!"
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I think he may have thought there was nothing powerful as Kiss for release..this was radio back in the 80's remember. It was the time of the big masive hit to get you hooked etc. I think in time sinc ehe has reconsidered much of his material including that on Parade...he has brought back Sometimes It Snows and UTCM in the ninities at certain performances etc. "Climb in my fur." | |
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He could have released Last Heart and Woderfull ass as singles they would have burned the charts down in 1986 + All My Dreams as a ghost track on the Parade CD
Well, the "he should, he could, why didn't he "usual blah blah | |
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jnoel said: He could have released Last Heart and Woderfull ass as singles they would have burned the charts down in 1986 + All My Dreams as a ghost track on the Parade CD
No way..his fans would have loved the music yes but burn up the charts in 1986? No way. Last Heart would have done nothing just as Mountains did.Wonderful Ass is a top top song but I dont think it would have worked on radio. That sound with the synths etc would have worked better in 1980-81-82-83 era of Prince music and chart success. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Said it before, oppps - and I'll say it again - B R I L L I A N T  it | |
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ain't a damn thing wrong with parade, now...  | |
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You're right there wasn't a GOOD cut on the whole cd. But there were 12 GREAT tracks on it.   Proud member of Prince's cult for 20 years! | |
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jnoel said: He could have released Last Heart and Woderfull ass as singles they would have burned the charts down in 1986 + All My Dreams as a ghost track on the Parade CD
Well, the "he should, he could, why didn't he "usual blah blah i've heard more people say they love 'wonderful ass'; i think this is one of prince's weakest tracks of the 80's. that and 'good love'. there's nothing interesting happening in 'wonderful ass' and lyrically it's kind of simple imo. 'good love' sounds cheesy. lyrically i don't really know. i haven't been able to make myself really listen to it, but i think the title says all. don't need no reefer, don't need cocaine
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Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING!  ___________
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purpleone said: i've heard more people say they love 'wonderful ass'; i think this is one of prince's weakest tracks of the 80's. that and 'good love'. there's nothing interesting happening in 'wonderful ass' and lyrically it's kind of simple imo. 'good love' sounds cheesy. lyrically i don't really know. i haven't been able to make myself really listen to it, but i think the title says all.
I ablsolutely HATE Good Love..its such a stupid song musically ..and a throwaway. I dont care if it has Camille as the vocalist. "Climb in my fur." | |
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TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING! She's said that for years and its true.. and there is something odd-out about Kiss..you feels Parades before and after-ness surrounding Kiss. "Climb in my fur." | |
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May be WAY off base here BUT...I always saw this as Prince taking a backhanded stab at Wendy and Lisa. Moreso than anything else from the Revolution days, Parade is truly a Wendy-Lisa-Prince collaboration. Back in late '86 no one could understand Prince disbanding the Revolution and in particular, firing Wendy and Lisa (hot on the heels of that Rollins Stone cover story in the spring of that year). So, as I've heard other associates say, Prince most likely wanted to take it all in and begin anew...sure, he was getting good reviews but you know how Prince is..."wait do these mamma-jammas (wasn't this his term for critics back then?) think I'm this good because of Wendy and Lisa..I'll show them!!"
Just a thought Matt "Because when you say annihilation my friends, you've said all there is to say" - Henry Rollins | |
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rdhull said: TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING! She's said that for years and its true.. and there is something odd-out about Kiss..you feels Parades before and after-ness surrounding Kiss. Oh yeah, I agree with the first statement about Kiss sounding out of place, but as for the rest of the songs not being fleshed out? No way! ___________
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TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING! My insanity has NADA to do with my opinion of Parade. Now phone yo ass HOME and STAY THERE!  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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TheExtraTerrestrial said: rdhull said: TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING! She's said that for years and its true.. and there is something odd-out about Kiss..you feels Parades before and after-ness surrounding Kiss. Oh yeah, I agree with the first statement about Kiss sounding out of place, but as for the rest of the songs not being fleshed out? No way! Aren't you aliens supposed to be light years ahead of us humans in smarts? READ AGAIN; I never said a thing about "the rest of the songs" not being fleshed out. COMPREHEND. Get to it! This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Moreso than anything else from the Revolution days, Parade is truly a Wendy-Lisa-Prince collaboration. Back in late '86 no one could understand Prince disbanding the Revolution and in particular, firing Wendy and Lisa (hot on the heels of that Rollins Stone cover story in the spring of that year).
being a new prince fan i dont know anything about why the revolution split up. i didnt think he would fire them though? i thought that once they started solo careers he moved onto to something else... | |
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the Revolution broke up because Wendy had a big mouth and got too big for her panties if you believe DMSR. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Supernova said: TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING! My insanity has NADA to do with my opinion of Parade. Now phone yo ass HOME and STAY THERE! You earthlings can be so hostile at times! I am enormously against your statement that Parade is not "fleshed-out", but I do agree that "Kiss" is out of place production-wise on that album. No need to get so angry! I am a peaceful being. ___________
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chaos96 said: May be WAY off base here BUT...I always saw this as Prince taking a backhanded stab at Wendy and Lisa. Moreso than anything else from the Revolution days, Parade is truly a Wendy-Lisa-Prince collaboration. Back in late '86 no one could understand Prince disbanding the Revolution and in particular, firing Wendy and Lisa (hot on the heels of that Rollins Stone cover story in the spring of that year). So, as I've heard other associates say, Prince most likely wanted to take it all in and begin anew...sure, he was getting good reviews but you know how Prince is..."wait do these mamma-jammas (wasn't this his term for critics back then?) think I'm this good because of Wendy and Lisa..I'll show them!!"
Just a thought Matt I've been listening to Parade a lot just recently and am surprised over how much space there is for the Revolution. "I Wonder U" is a case in point - in my head it was Prince sung, but how wrong could I be. It is fantastic listening to this album again and hearing how fresh and ahead of its time it was. Lack of good tracks - you've gotta be kidding me! This is an album in every sense of the word - superb! Everybody is special. Everybody. Everybody is a hero, a lover, a fool, a villain. Everybody. Everybody has their story to tell. |
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rdhull said: the Revolution broke up because Wendy had a big mouth and got too big for her panties if you believe DMSR.
Where did it say that in "d.m.s.r."? ~KiKi | |
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TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: TheExtraTerrestrial said: Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. You are insane. There is NOTHING wrong with Parade! NOTHING! My insanity has NADA to do with my opinion of Parade. Now phone yo ass HOME and STAY THERE! You earthlings can be so hostile at times! I am enormously against your statement that Parade is not "fleshed-out", Which is not exactly what I said. Read it again, if you care so much. but I do agree that "Kiss" is out of place production-wise on that album. No need to get so angry! I am a peaceful being.
I wasn't REALLY angry. Just annoyed that you think I said something that I didn't. Like now. [This message was edited Sat Feb 8 17:10:49 PST 2003 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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lovebizzare said: rdhull said: the Revolution broke up because Wendy had a big mouth and got too big for her panties if you believe DMSR.
Where did it say that in "d.m.s.r."? You would have to read the chapter which details the Parade tour and the feelings of having Wally, Brooks and Jerome as semi front men and Wendy and Lisa, especially Wendy having an issue with it taking place of the music. Sure she has a point to a respect but damn..she aint said shit when she was relegated to a front runner status of Wendy n Lisa in film and on record when Bronwmark etc still had no major attention. Not saying that Wendy and L did not have reason to say certain things such as creating large portions of the music and helping with production but damn..talking about biting the hand that fed you and made your ass a star. Bigheaded. edit--and you can see her bigheadedness in the Rolling Stone article.."Im sory but nobody comes close to what we have in the studio..ever!" or something akin to that..see she was already ready to take the bull by the horns and try to run thangs lol..so when it came down to going on they told Prince and said they aint havin it..well then fuckin go. Thats what happened. . [This message was edited Sat Feb 8 17:12:15 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: lovebizzare said: rdhull said: the Revolution broke up because Wendy had a big mouth and got too big for her panties if you believe DMSR.
Where did it say that in "d.m.s.r."? You would have to read the chapter which details the Parade tour and the felings of having Wally, Brooks and Jerome as semi front men and Wendy and Lisa , especially Wendy having an issue with it taking place of the music. Sure she has a point to a respect but damn..she aint said shit when she was relgated to a front runner status of Wemdy n Lisa in film and on record when Bronwmark etc still had no major attention. Not saying that Wendy and L did not have reason to say certain things such as creating large portions of the music and helping with production but damn..talking about biting the hand that fed you and made your ass a star. Bigheaded. edit--and u can see her bigheadedness in the Rolling Stone articel..'Im sory but nobody comes close to what we have in the studio..ever" or something akin to that..se she was already ready to take the bull by the horns and try to run thangs lol..so when it came down to going on they told Prince and said they aint havin it..well then fuckin go. Thats what happened. . . [This message was edited Sat Feb 8 16:56:40 PST 2003 by rdhull] [This message was edited Sat Feb 8 16:58:54 PST 2003 by rdhull] oh, okay, I haven't read the book in ages, so I vaguely rememeber what it said. I've always thought the only reason why Wendy became the "star" was because of his relationship with Susanna therefore when that ended--nevermind. Somehow the break-up of the Revolution always confuses me, since I don't see Wendy as being big-headed. Boy, I can't wait til EverLastingNow reads this. ~KiKi | |
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lovebizzare said: rdhull said: lovebizzare said: rdhull said: the Revolution broke up because Wendy had a big mouth and got too big for her panties if you believe DMSR.
Where did it say that in "d.m.s.r."? You would have to read the chapter which details the Parade tour and the felings of having Wally, Brooks and Jerome as semi front men and Wendy and Lisa , especially Wendy having an issue with it taking place of the music. Sure she has a point to a respect but damn..she aint said shit when she was relgated to a front runner status of Wemdy n Lisa in film and on record when Bronwmark etc still had no major attention. Not saying that Wendy and L did not have reason to say certain things such as creating large portions of the music and helping with production but damn..talking about biting the hand that fed you and made your ass a star. Bigheaded. edit--and u can see her bigheadedness in the Rolling Stone articel..'Im sory but nobody comes close to what we have in the studio..ever" or something akin to that..se she was already ready to take the bull by the horns and try to run thangs lol..so when it came down to going on they told Prince and said they aint havin it..well then fuckin go. Thats what happened. . . [This message was edited Sat Feb 8 16:56:40 PST 2003 by rdhull] [This message was edited Sat Feb 8 16:58:54 PST 2003 by rdhull] oh, okay, I haven't read the book in ages, so I vaguely rememeber what it said. I've always thought the only reason why Wendy became the "star" was because of his relationship with Susanna therefore when that ended--nevermind. Somehow the break-up of the Revolution always confuses me, since I don't see Wendy as being big-headed. Boy, I can't wait til EverLastingNow reads this. P.S. if he let W&L go because of that, wouldn't that make Lisa "too big for her panties" too? ~KiKi | |
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Supernova said: Personally, I think "Kiss" sounded out of place within the context of the Parade album.
Some of the songs on the album sound as if they could have been fleshed out more. They're teases. Good teases, but teases nevertheless. Spot on. The album seems to be over before it started. He covers so many bases stylistically in such a short space of time that it is hard to digest each part fully, and the album never fully coalesces. I think the sequence from Christopher Tracy's Parade to Under the Cherry Moon is quite magical, but he never fully exhausts the potential of the individual songs and it hangs in the air without delivering a final punch. | |
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