Beautifulstarr123 said:

SoulAlive said:

You know what would be cool? A remaster of 'Controversy' with a bonus DVD of 'The Second Coming'! That film probably isn't completely finished,but just give us what you got...we'll take it

Yeah, you'll be waiting for the Second Coming before that happen

I know,huh?

So if we don't get 'good' new material from mr Prince then we want 'remastered' rehash instead?

Maybe my choice of words is off but you get the question I hope.

WetDream said:

The difference is that Prince is an artist.

He probably trys to look forward instead of back as much as possible to endure new things. I fully support that and would much prefer new albums etc, but i also agree that his back catalogue needs remastering with possibly a 2nd disc of outtakes and B-Sides.

However, that's probably as far as it will go. Attaching something like the 2nd Coming to Controversy, an item that's never been released and is probably a depiction of Prince that Prince is not pleased with, may not be applicable to him....and understandably. It would literally be included just for our greed and that's not usually an artists way, as much as i'd like to see it.

He's an artist and visionary, they tend to live in the now and be working on giving the world something new.

This could also explain why he performs his hits differently all the time. Too cater to the masses, but also his new visions.

This leads me to think we'll just have a remastered back catalogue with complimentary extra tracks at best if at all (whilst he's still here with us).

But ultimately...this is my observation, Prince is brilliantly unpredictable.

I like what I'm reading.

cjtavernit said:

Does anyone think that perhaps the remastered box set may be planned for the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? It'd be 2014?

I'm guessing someone in the marketing department at Warner Music Group (or whatever it's called these days) already has a design concept and proposed tracklist for the 2014 Purple Rain 30th Anniversary Super Deluxe Edition all set to go, once the financial issues are resolved and Prince and whoever else needs to say yes does so. Just like the Let It Be remastered film has been ready to go for years, just waiting for the Beatles and their widows to agree to set it loose.

Prince no doubt has his own plans for Purple Rain, which probably differ wildly from whatever WMG would like to do (and also probably change from day to day).

cjtavernit said:

Does anyone think that perhaps the remastered box set may be planned for the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? It'd be 2014?

He doesn't do anniversaries, remember?

And we still have 23rd of december 2012 coming up as well as the dollar crash.

rdhull said:

In my cold clamy hands I hold the MJ Bad 25 box. Tons of extras (dvd of Bad concert, disc of outtakes and demos, live cd disc, and remastered disc). And I never thought this era was that great.

Shitty box set, by the way. "Hey let's not include about two CDs worth of remixes from that era, and instead fill space with crap-ass remixes by talentless hacks."

WetDream said:

The difference is that Prince is an artist.

He probably trys to look forward instead of back as much as possible

So that's why the average age of the songs played at his concerts is 20/25 years old.

Stop parrotting this long debunked nonsense.

He's an artist and visionary, they tend to live in the now and be working on giving the world something new.

So that's why he can't be arsed to play songs from any recent album in concert, yet spends hours on bland medleys of his hits from 25 years ago? Dude, the man just played a medley in Chicago that was THE SAME FRIKKING THING he'd performed in 2005 or so.

This could also explain why he performs his hits differently all the time. Too cater to the masses, but also his new visions.

New versions? The shitty "U Got The Look" I've just listened to contains nothing new, it's just an old song dressed up in the same crap that makes his new music so unlistenable.

I think any discussion of why Prince's current output and behavior is so confounding must start with a firm grasp on just how much he disdains us.

Also see Bart's very recent comments.

udo said:

cjtavernit said:

Does anyone think that perhaps the remastered box set may be planned for the 30th anniversary of Purple Rain? It'd be 2014?

He doesn't do anniversaries, remember?

And we still have 23rd of december 2012 coming up as well as the dollar crash.

He's still an Jehovah's Witness?

Beautifulstarr123 said:

He's still an Jehovah's Witness?

Every now and then.

But even about that he doesn't communicate, so probably he is somewher in between.

To be on the safe side: do not expect a 30-year anniversary whatever album.

Maybe 4 months late but even then that would be exceptional.

Move forward, think ahead... bad feelings from those years... suppose Prince thinks this and that is why it hasn't happened?? Maybe... Maybe not, only he can answer that.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Thanx, Tremolina, your post made a lotta sense!

Hey SuperSoulFighter, you're welcome. Just mostly some facts and common sense tho, not all gospel truth. As long as nobody involved is truly speaking out, we here are pretty much in the dark on what's really going on.

Another thing to remember is that albums like DM or Controversy weren't really that big. For a box set to sell, it would have to be centered around a really famous album like Purple Rain or maybe Parade or Sign o'the Times.

I agree, those albums would be crucial. However, Prince's first albums would presumably be somewhat easier to handle than PR or SOTT since he did practially all of "the work" on them, a few exceptions provided.

Also, there could be bigger projects centered around these albums, next to limited editions of "lesser"important ones.

Maybe it's just about "the money" or maybe it's just about "the art".

Personally I suspect it's mostly about control.

LazarusHeart said:

I think any discussion of why Prince's current output and behavior is so confounding must start with a firm grasp on just how much he disdains us.

He doesnt hate us. Well, some of yall, yes, but the majority, no.

Oh, and BTW: WB is gradually losing grasp of the masters as they, one by one, year after year, fall back into mr Prince's hands. (full control over them that is)

So WB can't do much about this except offering him some type of deal.

What conclusion can we draw about the lack of noise about any type of deal?

NouveauDance said:

Often have to wait for the coroner's report unfortunately.

This statement is sad and funny all wrapped into one. I'm at my job dieing of laughter.

DAV123 said:

NouveauDance said:

Often have to wait for the coroner's report unfortunately.

This statement is sad and funny all wrapped into one. I'm at my job dieing of laughter.

Oh?

So where would his estate go to after he dies?

I do not think the circumstances will change favourably.

Does anyone know at which time the process of recording had advanced to the point that it was a good idea to start remastering albums from the 80s?

peter430044 said:

Does anyone know at which time the process of recording had advanced to the point that it was a good idea to start remastering albums from the 80s?

Halfway during the 90's? End of the 90's?

Depending om wat you want from 'remastering'.

Louder is not necessarily better.

udo said:

peter430044 said:

Does anyone know at which time the process of recording had advanced to the point that it was a good idea to start remastering albums from the 80s?

Halfway during the 90's? End of the 90's?

Depending om wat you want from 'remastering'.

Louder is not necessarily better.

Thank you.

SoulAlive said:

as for that 'Bad' remaster,I'm buying it for my nephew this Christmas From what I've seen,it looks like an impressive project with lots of goodies!

he's just a cash paedo

BartVanHemelen said:

Haha, and mr P does nothing of that (anymore).

BartVanHemelen said:

SpiritOtter said:

You greedy cock-a-roach, RD. love, Spirit

Albums we get via a newspaper, in a cardboard sleeve, no lyrics, no nothing. (if at all)

No CD-singles. No B-sides. No extras. Nothing.

No remasters.

No live-stuff.

No DVD, no blue-thing.

Just a download every once in a while if you keep tabs on certain websites.

(no not his own, those others)

MarquessMarq said:

Prince has it all figured out. He doesn't have to exert the effort to preserve his legacy (remasters, vault...) because in 200 years when all of us that so desperately want this are dust, he and his commercial catalogue will have already been solidified as being one of the most influential and successful entities/bodies of work of all time; regardless of whether or not he pleases US now.

Agreed.

And why are some folks so thirsty for all these remastered/collector's item box sets? Prince shouldn't have to follow everything other artists do.