Just been using Audacity with Prince songs 2 make them louder (like Dity Mind etc)....suppose itll have 2 do till teh reamsters cum out......also on Shockedelica....Ive reapeated teh chorus twice yanno taht part that goes "Shockedelica doop ba doop ba doop bay"...it makes teh song better 2 my ears anyway....and ya wouldnt tell it was edited.......which is even cooler...also took teh shit rap out of Love Me 2 The 9's......any1 else use Audacity??? or edit Prince songs with it?

Optimus2 said:

Just been using Audacity with Prince songs 2 make them louder (like Dity Mind etc)....suppose itll have 2 do till teh reamsters cum out......also on Shockedelica....Ive reapeated teh chorus twice yanno taht part that goes "Shockedelica doop ba doop ba doop bay"...it makes teh song better 2 my ears anyway....and ya wouldnt tell it was edited.......which is even cooler...also took teh shit rap out of Love Me 2 The 9's......any1 else use Audacity??? or edit Prince songs with it?

I haven't used Audacity for those purposes. I've used it to rip vinyls though.

The program I'm used to is Sound forge. And yes. A while ago and in search for changing the Prince songs in my player, I "discovered" Valentina... It was love at first listen but waaay too short, so I made an intro and mixed some things extracting the central channel (where you discover new things about the songs) and repeating some parts... Pretty nice if you ask me.

Now when you have the original version and additionally the instrumental and acapella versions, you could easily create those 80's extended versions I love.

Optimus2 said:

Just been using Audacity with Prince songs 2 make them louder (like Dity Mind etc)....suppose itll have 2 do till teh reamsters cum out......also on Shockedelica....Ive reapeated teh chorus twice yanno taht part that goes "Shockedelica doop ba doop ba doop bay"...it makes teh song better 2 my ears anyway....and ya wouldnt tell it was edited.......which is even cooler...also took teh shit rap out of Love Me 2 The 9's......any1 else use Audacity??? or edit Prince songs with it?

It's cool if u wanna edit stuff for personal use, but please DO NOT share ur edits online, never, ever, or they may end-up on hundreds of people's computers, with these people believing they are the real thing. Some people have done it in the past and it's a very dangerous practice for the cultural heritage of the human race, just as if u'd edit some chapters out of Hemingway books and share them and in the end many clueless people would read your edit and think it's the real book.

databank said:

Optimus2 said:

Just been using Audacity with Prince songs 2 make them louder (like Dity Mind etc)....suppose itll have 2 do till teh reamsters cum out......also on Shockedelica....Ive reapeated teh chorus twice yanno taht part that goes "Shockedelica doop ba doop ba doop bay"...it makes teh song better 2 my ears anyway....and ya wouldnt tell it was edited.......which is even cooler...also took teh shit rap out of Love Me 2 The 9's......any1 else use Audacity??? or edit Prince songs with it?

It's cool if u wanna edit stuff for personal use, but please DO NOT share ur edits online, never, ever, or they may end-up on hundreds of people's computers, with these people believing they are the real thing. Some people have done it in the past and it's a very dangerous practice for the cultural heritage of the human race, just as if u'd edit some chapters out of Hemingway books and share them and in the end many clueless people would read your edit and think it's the real book.

I dont go on filesharing sites....so dont worry.....there for my ears only

databank said:

Optimus2 said:

Just been using Audacity with Prince songs 2 make them louder (like Dity Mind etc)....suppose itll have 2 do till teh reamsters cum out......also on Shockedelica....Ive reapeated teh chorus twice yanno taht part that goes "Shockedelica doop ba doop ba doop bay"...it makes teh song better 2 my ears anyway....and ya wouldnt tell it was edited.......which is even cooler...also took teh shit rap out of Love Me 2 The 9's......any1 else use Audacity??? or edit Prince songs with it?

It's cool if u wanna edit stuff for personal use, but please DO NOT share ur edits online, never, ever, or they may end-up on hundreds of people's computers, with these people believing they are the real thing. Some people have done it in the past and it's a very dangerous practice for the cultural heritage of the human race, just as if u'd edit some chapters out of Hemingway books and share them and in the end many clueless people would read your edit and think it's the real book.

I strongly disagree. It's fine to share your own edits, remixes, compilations, etc...

Just make sure you label them as such.

Fans have made edits of films (for example, there are versions of The Phantom Menace that have Jar Jar removed) and shared them online. It can be fun.

Just label label label to make it obvious.

Don't worry about clueless people. That's their problem, not yours...

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

It's cool if u wanna edit stuff for personal use, but please DO NOT share ur edits online, never, ever, or they may end-up on hundreds of people's computers, with these people believing they are the real thing. Some people have done it in the past and it's a very dangerous practice for the cultural heritage of the human race, just as if u'd edit some chapters out of Hemingway books and share them and in the end many clueless people would read your edit and think it's the real book.

I strongly disagree. It's fine to share your own edits, remixes, compilations, etc...

Just make sure you label them as such.

Fans have made edits of films (for example, there are versions of The Phantom Menace that have Jar Jar removed) and shared them online. It can be fun.

Just label label label to make it obvious.

Don't worry about clueless people. That's their problem, not yours...

The problem is how long your clear, explicit label will last before being erased from the file's title and lost in the mess? I'm quite sure tje label will disappear in many cases. How much time do I waste checking the tracklists of albums online just because people share incomplete albums? How many butchered songs do I have on my comp without knowing they've been butchered? None I hope but how would I know?

I believe in creative editing for parody purposes, in sampling, reconstructing, whatever as long as it implies including parts of someone's work in someone else's work. But people butchering artist's works of art just because they don't like Tony M. or Jar Jar Binks? No way! If it's for your own use and it stays at home then hell people are free to do what they wanna, but shared as such? No. I cannot and will never condone this. We can disagree, though, it's cool, but my point is that, considering the speed at which data is shared online by an increasing number of people, in 100 years it may be hard to find the original version of any work of art. From this to editing the parts you don't like in History books or political essays or even news, there is only one step, a very little one, and we know where this leads don't we?

And I worry a lot about clueless people because they end-up voting for clueless politicians, putting their clueless children in the same school than mine (hypothetically since I don't have kids), being my neighboors, my collegues or my boss, etc. The more clueless they get, the more miserable my life can become because of them. The less clueless they get, the better I get

And believe me I've lived in Cambodia for the last 2 years, and post-Khmer Rouge Cambodia is the most terrifying example of what happens in a country where culture and education have been destroyed, a country now being populated mostly by clueless people. Not stupid by birth, just uneducated and/or miseducated to the point where they become stupid and act like stupid. It's really sad because this country is far, far away from getting out of the shit it's in. And a lot of people are suffering from this situation. It makes you reconsider a lot of things.

Just a few thoughts, though, I might be wrong, but I think it's worth thinking about it for a minute

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

I strongly disagree. It's fine to share your own edits, remixes, compilations, etc...

Just make sure you label them as such.

Fans have made edits of films (for example, there are versions of The Phantom Menace that have Jar Jar removed) and shared them online. It can be fun.

Just label label label to make it obvious.

Don't worry about clueless people. That's their problem, not yours...

The problem is how long your clear, explicit label will last before being erased from the file's title and lost in the mess? I'm quite sure tje label will disappear in many cases. How much time do I waste checking the tracklists of albums online just because people share incomplete albums? How many butchered songs do I have on my comp without knowing they've been butchered? None I hope but how would I know?

I believe in creative editing for parody purposes, in sampling, reconstructing, whatever as long as it implies including parts of someone's work in someone else's work. But people butchering artist's works of art just because they don't like Tony M. or Jar Jar Binks? No way! If it's for your own use and it stays at home then hell people are free to do what they wanna, but shared as such? No. I cannot and will never condone this. We can disagree, though, it's cool, but my point is that, considering the speed at which data is shared online by an increasing number of people, in 100 years it may be hard to find the original version of any work of art. From this to editing the parts you don't like in History books or political essays or even news, there is only one step, a very little one, and we know where this leads don't we?

And I worry a lot about clueless people because they end-up voting for clueless politicians, putting their clueless children in the same school than mine (hypothetically since I don't have kids), being my neighboors, my collegues or my boss, etc. The more clueless they get, the more miserable my life can become because of them. The less clueless they get, the better I get

And believe me I've lived in Cambodia for the last 2 years, and post-Khmer Rouge Cambodia is the most terrifying example of what happens in a country where culture and education have been destroyed, a country now being populated mostly by clueless people. Not stupid by birth, just uneducated and/or miseducated to the point where they become stupid and act like stupid. It's really sad because this country is far, far away from getting out of the shit it's in. And a lot of people are suffering from this situation. It makes you reconsider a lot of things.

Just a few thoughts, though, I might be wrong, but I think it's worth thinking about it for a minute

I agree with much of what you say here, but, I still disagree with your conclusions for several reasons.

First of all, the creators of art have already muddied the waters with umpteen versions, editions, remakes, updates, upgrades, etc... It's too late for it to be easy to distinguish an "official version" of music or film from a bastardization of what was originally intended. To make it worse, sometimes the original version is the "best", sometimes the latest and sometimes somewhere in between. Sometimes there is NO definitive version because all versions have faults. It's part of the fun and frustration of building a library of music or film and it's up to listener/viewer to do some research if they care to.

Next, there are many reasons for people to share alternate aftermarket versions of material. Maybe a DJ who makes a remix, or a video editor that makes a fan-edit of a film get attention for their skills and land a real job because they shared something they did. Maybe other fans enjoy it. Maybe it truly is an improvement over the "official" and others appreciate the work that went into it.

A couple of examples:

Way back in the early days of CDR burners and Sound Forge, one of my first projects was to take the single track from my Lovesexy CD, split it into individual tracks, and burn a tracked copy for my listening pleasure. I shared that with many friends. I did such a good job, that when it became easier (and cheaper) to get an official copy with individual tracks I found that my choices of where to split tracks was nearly perfect. Should I have not shared that disc? One on the people I gave it to may have uploaded it to a file sharing service, you might have downloaded it assuming it was official. See, before it was available as individual tracks, MANY fans wanted a tracked copy. Once those get mixed in with official tracked copies trading on the net it would be very difficult to track down the real thing. Oh, well. I maintain that it's good to share such things for those that want them.

I'd also like to offer The Dawn as my final point. Personally, I haven't listened to it more than the once or twice right after I got it. I thought it was awesome, but ultimately, I prefer to listen to official presentations of material where available. However, I regularly see people rave about it on this site with many even stating they listen to it more than the albums the material are sourced from. Should the person who compiled The Dawn with such loving attention to detail not have shared it with fellow fans? After all, it is this fan's re-imagining of a period of Prince's career and could easily be misunderstood by the uneducated.

I know there are a lot of stupid people who will never do the work and therefor not know they are watching/listening to inferior or unofficial versions and pass them on to others. I know it's a lot of work for the fan to educate themselves. I just think it's worth it.

Props to you, databank, for offering an intelligent debate. It's so refreshing amidst the sea of name calling that is so common when people disagree on the org.

I do this a LOT. making new edits to clean up album stuff, re-creating or making new single edits, re-positioning the track indexes for CD's, etc.

I've found that for volume adjustment, I'm never happy with how Audacity does it. not sure why. I think I'm too timid in cranking it up when I can see what it's doing to the waveform.

So I burn it to a disc, and use my old method of blindly cranking it up in Nero before I burn. Not sure why, but it usually works out right. and I think I've got the necessary volume amplifications for all of his releases memorized at this point.

I think my favorite thing that I've ever done in Audacity is to make a 4:00 Pink Cashmere radio edit that contains the vocal adlibs at the end AND the guitar & strings duet overlayed on top of each other, because neither of the official radio versions have ever been satisfying to me.

Any soundcloud? Is this anywhere to be heard? I dig.

databank said:

Optimus2 said:

Just been using Audacity with Prince songs 2 make them louder (like Dity Mind etc)....suppose itll have 2 do till teh reamsters cum out......also on Shockedelica....Ive reapeated teh chorus twice yanno taht part that goes "Shockedelica doop ba doop ba doop bay"...it makes teh song better 2 my ears anyway....and ya wouldnt tell it was edited.......which is even cooler...also took teh shit rap out of Love Me 2 The 9's......any1 else use Audacity??? or edit Prince songs with it?

It's cool if u wanna edit stuff for personal use, but please DO NOT share ur edits online, never, ever, or they may end-up on hundreds of people's computers, with these people believing they are the real thing. Some people have done it in the past and it's a very dangerous practice for the cultural heritage of the human race, just as if u'd edit some chapters out of Hemingway books and share them and in the end many clueless people would read your edit and think it's the real book.

Some of my favorite Prince joints are remixes I've made complete w guitar parts I created myself.

Graycap23 said:

databank said:

It's cool if u wanna edit stuff for personal use, but please DO NOT share ur edits online, never, ever, or they may end-up on hundreds of people's computers, with these people believing they are the real thing. Some people have done it in the past and it's a very dangerous practice for the cultural heritage of the human race, just as if u'd edit some chapters out of Hemingway books and share them and in the end many clueless people would read your edit and think it's the real book.

Some of my favorite Prince joints are remixes I've made complete w guitar parts I created myself.

I agree. Fan made remixes are good.

OzlemUcucu said:

Graycap23 said:

Some of my favorite Prince joints are remixes I've made complete w guitar parts I created myself.

I agree. Fan made remixes are good.

I've remixed just about every Prince song that I like.

Graycap23 said:

OzlemUcucu said:

I agree. Fan made remixes are good.

I've remixed just about every Prince song that I like.

Hello!

I strongly oppose the idea of toying with somebody else's work of art and finished creation, especially when the purpose is not to "cover" it, but to simply "tweak" it for personal pleasure. It just sounds very ignorant and egoistical to me, taking what we like and leaving what we don't like, with no regards to the amount of time, money, ideas and energy the orinigal artist invested in order to make it sound just the way it is.

If it ain't "official" or approved by the person who created the original, it's not only an infringement of their intellectual property, but also very disrespecting on a moral level (at least to me).

We can all say that it's a pity Prince doesn't want to release remasters of his old albums etc, but it's his decision and we should live with it. In the end, we wouldn't even crave for remasters if he hadn't given us all this wonderful music in the first place.

Dave1992 said:

I strongly oppose the idea of toying with somebody else's work of art and finished creation, especially when the purpose is not to "cover" it, but to simply "tweak" it for personal pleasure. It just sounds very ignorant and egoistical to me, taking what we like and leaving what we don't like, with no regards to the amount of time, money, ideas and energy the orinigal artist invested in order to make it sound just the way it is.

If it ain't "official" or approved by the person who created the original, it's not only an infringement of their intellectual property, but also very disrespecting on a moral level (at least to me).

We can all say that it's a pity Prince doesn't want to release remasters of his old albums etc, but it's his decision and we should live with it. In the end, we wouldn't even crave for remasters if he hadn't given us all this wonderful music in the first place.

We are in the minority on this

Dave1992 said:

I strongly oppose the idea of toying with somebody else's work of art and finished creation, especially when the purpose is not to "cover" it, but to simply "tweak" it for personal pleasure. It just sounds very ignorant and egoistical to me, taking what we like and leaving what we don't like, with no regards to the amount of time, money, ideas and energy the orinigal artist invested in order to make it sound just the way it is.

If it ain't "official" or approved by the person who created the original, it's not only an infringement of their intellectual property, but also very disrespecting on a moral level (at least to me).

We can all say that it's a pity Prince doesn't want to release remasters of his old albums etc, but it's his decision and we should live with it. In the end, we wouldn't even crave for remasters if he hadn't given us all this wonderful music in the first place.

If the "tweaker" tries to sell or otherwise profit from the tweak, I might agree. Otherwise, it's fair use.

What if I hate Arms Of Orion and I edit it out of my playlist when I listen to the Batman soundtrack. That is tweaking for my personal pleasure. It's ridiculous for anyone, the artist included, to have a problem with that.

Or, my above example with the Lovesexy CD. Prince may have wanted me to only be able to listen to the album as a whole, and not individual tracks. I subverted his artistic intention when I used Sound Forge to split it into individual tracks and burned a CDR copy. He might not like this but I would be stupid to give a fuck.

Back in the day when we had real stereo's they had a 'volume' knob to make songs louder.

So why do the hobby thing?

udo said:

Back in the day when we had real stereo's they had a 'volume' knob to make songs louder.

So why do the hobby thing?

Try shuffling those old tracks with new ones and you'll get a lot of use out of those volume knobs as you'll be constantly turning up the old stuff and turning down the new just to maintain the level of volume desired.

PANDURITO said:

Dave1992 said:

I strongly oppose the idea of toying with somebody else's work of art and finished creation, especially when the purpose is not to "cover" it, but to simply "tweak" it for personal pleasure. It just sounds very ignorant and egoistical to me, taking what we like and leaving what we don't like, with no regards to the amount of time, money, ideas and energy the orinigal artist invested in order to make it sound just the way it is.

If it ain't "official" or approved by the person who created the original, it's not only an infringement of their intellectual property, but also very disrespecting on a moral level (at least to me).

We can all say that it's a pity Prince doesn't want to release remasters of his old albums etc, but it's his decision and we should live with it. In the end, we wouldn't even crave for remasters if he hadn't given us all this wonderful music in the first place.

We are in the minority on this

That was to be expected, though...

djThunderfunk said:

Dave1992 said:

I strongly oppose the idea of toying with somebody else's work of art and finished creation, especially when the purpose is not to "cover" it, but to simply "tweak" it for personal pleasure. It just sounds very ignorant and egoistical to me, taking what we like and leaving what we don't like, with no regards to the amount of time, money, ideas and energy the orinigal artist invested in order to make it sound just the way it is.

If it ain't "official" or approved by the person who created the original, it's not only an infringement of their intellectual property, but also very disrespecting on a moral level (at least to me).

We can all say that it's a pity Prince doesn't want to release remasters of his old albums etc, but it's his decision and we should live with it. In the end, we wouldn't even crave for remasters if he hadn't given us all this wonderful music in the first place.

If the "tweaker" tries to sell or otherwise profit from the tweak, I might agree. Otherwise, it's fair use.

What if I hate Arms Of Orion and I edit it out of my playlist when I listen to the Batman soundtrack. That is tweaking for my personal pleasure. It's ridiculous for anyone, the artist included, to have a problem with that.

Or, my above example with the Lovesexy CD. Prince may have wanted me to only be able to listen to the album as a whole, and not individual tracks. I subverted his artistic intention when I used Sound Forge to split it into individual tracks and burned a CDR copy. He might not like this but I would be stupid to give a fuck.

Well, I find it ridiculous for anyone to edit songs out of a complete piece of work, an album. You see, our opinions might just differ on this one, but I would never ever do that.

djThunderfunk said:

udo said:

Back in the day when we had real stereo's they had a 'volume' knob to make songs louder.

So why do the hobby thing?

Try shuffling those old tracks with new ones and you'll get a lot of use out of those volume knobs as you'll be constantly turning up the old stuff and turning down the new just to maintain the level of volume desired.

Why would you "shuffle" old tracks with new ones and try to level them in volume? ATWIAD is from 1985 and those tracks were recorded around that time and are meant to make a stance for that certain period. They belong together and they belong on that album. The volume level and sound issues are a part of that time and part of those songs. If Prince wanted ATWIAD to sound completely loud and clean, he would re-record it for us.

Dave1992 said:

djThunderfunk said:

If the "tweaker" tries to sell or otherwise profit from the tweak, I might agree. Otherwise, it's fair use.

What if I hate Arms Of Orion and I edit it out of my playlist when I listen to the Batman soundtrack. That is tweaking for my personal pleasure. It's ridiculous for anyone, the artist included, to have a problem with that.

Or, my above example with the Lovesexy CD. Prince may have wanted me to only be able to listen to the album as a whole, and not individual tracks. I subverted his artistic intention when I used Sound Forge to split it into individual tracks and burned a CDR copy. He might not like this but I would be stupid to give a fuck.

Well, I find it ridiculous for anyone to edit songs out of a complete piece of work, an album. You see, our opinions might just differ on this one, but I would never ever do that.

So, if you want to hear an album, but you hate 1 or 2 tracks on it, you will listen to them anyway because that is how the album was "supposed" to be experienced? Hilarious.

djThunderfunk said:

udo said:

Back in the day when we had real stereo's they had a 'volume' knob to make songs louder.

So why do the hobby thing?

Try shuffling those old tracks with new ones and you'll get a lot of use out of those volume knobs as you'll be constantly turning up the old stuff and turning down the new just to maintain the level of volume desired.

- You are still playing CD's? (even Mp3's have features like pre- and replay gain; does your ipod know?)

- You are `making compilations` and thus destroying the concept the artist saw in a bunch of songs and thus recorded in an album?

Just a few questions to get an idea. Nothing specific yet.

Dave1992 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Try shuffling those old tracks with new ones and you'll get a lot of use out of those volume knobs as you'll be constantly turning up the old stuff and turning down the new just to maintain the level of volume desired.

Why would you "shuffle" old tracks with new ones and try to level them in volume? ATWIAD is from 1985 and those tracks were recorded around that time and are meant to make a stance for that certain period. They belong together and they belong on that album. The volume level and sound issues are a part of that time and part of those songs. If Prince wanted ATWIAD to sound completely loud and clean, he would re-record it for us.

Simple. I like SONGS. I like to mix it up. You would get whiplash being around me when my iPod is on shuffle. Not just for eras but for genres as well. I like funk, rock, reggae, blues, jazz, hip-hop, country, pop, metal, etc... I like music from the entirety of popular recorded music going back almost 100 years. And my favorite way to listen to music is to throw all my favorite tracks on an iPod and hit shuffle.

It would not be necessary for Prince to re-record ATWIAD, a simple remaster would do. If not, I'm happy to make any adjustments to the existing catalog I find necessary.

Why would you or Prince care if I make my own playlists, mix cds or listen to a shuffle? That's what I don't get...

djThunderfunk said:

Dave1992 said:

Well, I find it ridiculous for anyone to edit songs out of a complete piece of work, an album. You see, our opinions might just differ on this one, but I would never ever do that.

So, if you want to hear an album, but you hate 1 or 2 tracks on it, you will listen to them anyway because that is how the album was "supposed" to be experienced? Hilarious.

If not listening to those tracks is worth getting up from my ass and pressing the "skip" button or moving the needle on the record player then I do just that. But with this action comes the awareness that I really do "skip" something that was not intended to be skipped.

Furthermore, my approach to music (especially music by my favourite artists) makes it impossible for me to "hate" songs. The songs develop just like I do and every listen changes the way I perceive them. I'd find it a great pity if I never listened to a song again just because at some moment in the past I didn't enjoy listening to it.

djThunderfunk said:

Dave1992 said:

Why would you "shuffle" old tracks with new ones and try to level them in volume? ATWIAD is from 1985 and those tracks were recorded around that time and are meant to make a stance for that certain period. They belong together and they belong on that album. The volume level and sound issues are a part of that time and part of those songs. If Prince wanted ATWIAD to sound completely loud and clean, he would re-record it for us.

Simple. I like SONGS. I like to mix it up. You would get whiplash being around me when my iPod is on shuffle. Not just for eras but for genres as well. I like funk, rock, reggae, blues, jazz, hip-hop, country, pop, metal, etc... I like music from the entirety of popular recorded music going back almost 100 years. And my favorite way to listen to music is to throw all my favorite tracks on an iPod and hit shuffle.

It would not be necessary for Prince to re-record ATWIAD, a simple remaster would do. If not, I'm happy to make any adjustments to the existing catalog I find necessary.

Why would you or Prince care if I make my own playlists, mix cds or listen to a shuffle? That's what I don't get...

Nobody really cares the way you think we do, it's just that we voice our opinions and say that we think what you do is morally wrong and disrespecting.

udo said:

djThunderfunk said:

Try shuffling those old tracks with new ones and you'll get a lot of use out of those volume knobs as you'll be constantly turning up the old stuff and turning down the new just to maintain the level of volume desired.

- You are still playing CD's? (even Mp3's have features like pre- and replay gain; does your ipod know?)

- You are `making compilations` and thus destroying the concept the artist saw in a bunch of songs and thus recorded in an album?

Just a few questions to get an idea. Nothing specific yet.

Mostly I listen to mp3 on the iPod for convenience and portability. Yes, I adjust older, non-remastered material with the features my iPod does know about. That doesn't quite do the trick. I also still listen to CDS and Vinyl and very occasionally even cassettes.

I listen to albums and I make compilations or playlists and I listen on shuffle. All of the above.

What the hell? Am I really being chastised for not always listening to an album as a whole? For realz? Wow!

all that said, on another thread, I had this to say:

djThunderfunk said:

I would like remasters, if they were done right and were truly an improvement, with bonus material and deluxe packaging... that would be great.

But, I still enjoy what has already been released. Of course the vinyl sounds better than the CDs, but, the CDs aren't unlistenable on a good system with a good EQ. And since this is how I've been playing them since I started collecting the CD versions 25 years ago, I ain't hatin' on them. I notice the issues when I play them in the car on factory speakers with no EQ options but bass & treble, but when I play them through my EQ on my system at the house, they rock.

Get a good amp, good speakers and a nice multiband EQ, and even MP3 rips of the CDs will rock the house. Just ask my neighbors...

So, I do see many sides to these issues. When I choose to listen to a complete album I have no problem with the current mastering because I have vinyl and I can make the CDs and even mp3 rips of them sound great on my system. However, when I listen to songs as opposed to albums, tweaking can improve my listening experience. Usually better than the clunky settings on iTunes.

Dave1992 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Simple. I like SONGS. I like to mix it up. You would get whiplash being around me when my iPod is on shuffle. Not just for eras but for genres as well. I like funk, rock, reggae, blues, jazz, hip-hop, country, pop, metal, etc... I like music from the entirety of popular recorded music going back almost 100 years. And my favorite way to listen to music is to throw all my favorite tracks on an iPod and hit shuffle.

It would not be necessary for Prince to re-record ATWIAD, a simple remaster would do. If not, I'm happy to make any adjustments to the existing catalog I find necessary.

Why would you or Prince care if I make my own playlists, mix cds or listen to a shuffle? That's what I don't get...

Nobody really cares the way you think we do, it's just that we voice our opinions and say that we think what you do is morally wrong and disrespecting.

I am going to be laughing all day.

I'm "morally wrong and disrespecting" for listening to songs on shuffle.

Oh that is so crazy.

Guess, what. I had bootlegs of the Black Album before it was released too..

I must be evil as shit!

Seriously. This is the craziest, most hilarious, baffling stance that I have seen on the org in awhile.

Thanks!!