While we're on the subject of places he didn't tour,,,,,did he ever perform in Africa? Inquiring minds wanna know.

kanamit said:

Optimus2 said:

maybe because its a horrible country...full of horrible people

Spot On!

I agree. When performing in Israel, do artists have the opportunityto witness the murder and incarceration of Palestinian people by Israel, the burning of Palestinian farms, the harassment

of Palestinian fisherman, the harassment by Israeli settlers, or the demolition of Palestinian

homes? Hopefully Prince does not ever go. If he does, he signals his agreement with Israel's apartheid and genocide.

mynameisnotsusan said:

luv4u said:

Because of political unstability it's probably not safe to go to the middle east.

He went to Abu Dhabi...I think if the price was right he'd show up. He's never been to NZ either and I think that's to do with dollar bills as well.

Well $$$ gets you a level of security that makes it safe to go to Abu Dhabi.

JUST ANNOUNCED!!!

STRAIGHT FROM MINNESOTA

HERE COMES THE PURPLE YODA

PRINCE AND THE N.P.G.

WELCOME 2 TIKRIT

TICKETS ON SALE THROUGH LIVENATION

HonestMan13 said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

He went to Abu Dhabi...I think if the price was right he'd show up. He's never been to NZ either and I think that's to do with dollar bills as well.

Well $$$ gets you a level of security that makes it safe to go to Abu Dhabi.

Abu Dhabi is pretty stable though, even if you don't have much money. Qatar too.

artist76 said:

Does he have enough of a fanbase in Israel to financial justify doing concerts there?

Anyway, concert in Israel might indicate "support" and that's a controversial thing; and while he was into "Controversy" 30 yrs ago, I don't think he or most other artists want to put themselves into this kind of controversy.

Btw, Reply #2 on the "stauros." I know it's a JW translation thing, but really why does it matter? Is there a substantive reason for a Christian to care wheter it's a "stauros" or cruxifix/cross? Isn't the main thing that he "died for our sins"?

I saw an old performance of his with Larry with the big word "stauros" in the background, and I just don't get it. Oh well.

i thought the main thing was that there is no proof whatsoever of his existence...

i think stauros served me my kebab last night

eugny1 said:

He's never to been to Russia either, right? I'd be interested to see if he could sell out an arena in Moscow.

http://prince.org/msg/7/247681

http://prince.org/msg/12/246281

I have somewhere a pic of prince leaving his hotel in moscow without the watermark. Could take a while to find it....

Harlepolis said:

While we're on the subject of places he didn't tour,,,,,did he ever perform in Africa? Inquiring minds wanna know.

There were some rumours two years ago, but nothing happeend:

http://prince.org/msg/12/345226

funkyrake said:

kanamit said:

Spot On!

I agree. When performing in Israel, do artists have the opportunityto witness the murder and incarceration of Palestinian people by Israel, the burning of Palestinian farms, the harassment

of Palestinian fisherman, the harassment by Israeli settlers, or the demolition of Palestinian

homes? Hopefully Prince does not ever go. If he does, he signals his agreement with Israel's apartheid and genocide.

Many artists (Annie Lenox, Ani Di Franco) have gone further than just not playing Israel. They've actively spoken out against the states racist policies. I hope Prince joins them.

x

Matt Fink confirmed to me personally that Prince simply didn't want to go there back in the good ol' revolution days. Probably due to instability and general "why bother" rather than political reasons.

HOWEVER, i know that P's people had serious negotiations with israeli promoters about 2 years ago. Also, about 5-6 years ago if i'm not mistaken there was reportedly (in israeli press) a confirmed date for Prince in Tel Aviv, only to be cancelled later on.

So israel doesn't seem to be necessarily on Prince's black list, and for the right amount of Dollar, he'll be here.

Indeed, top acts from all around the world played here recently for super-serious money: Madonna, Depeche Mode, Guns N Roses, Elton John, Rihanna, Justin Bieber, Leonard Cohen, Black Eyed Peas, Paul Simon, etc.

Prince's pal Lenny Kravitz has a gig here this fall, and his fans The RHCP are due here next month.

It is true that pro-palestinian organizations are putting lots of pressure against international acts performing here, including threats on their lives. The pixies, Elvis costello, and others cancelled gigs here because of these threats.

But the big acts don't really react to this pressure.

It's worth noting that many of the acts mentioned above are far off from supporting israel's policy in the territories. EG Erykah Badu held a terrific concert here, which was mostly magical and also very political. Badu's opinions are definitely not pro-israeli.

Prince's own opinions are most probably pro-palestinian too, and i'm pretty sure i heard him adress the subject once or twice. However Prince these days is usually smart enough not to corner himslef in positions that can truly upset too many people. I guess he can get by, like most artists do, by saying he's for peace and equality.

Since israel is a democracy (unlike all of the arab nations surrounding israel, btw) there's absolutely no reason these opinions won't be heard here, as a matter of fact many people here share these opinions, and the public debate is massive.

As for the Crowd for prince - israelis would LOVE prince. They ADORE acts that communicate from stage and flirt with the crowd. And we all know that Prince is one the greatest of all time in this section.

Also, the current generation of music press here, are mostly big fans of Prince. If he'll come here, he'll get so much terrific press - that will definitely help ticket sales.

If I were on Prince's team i'd go for the 11,000 capacity Nokia arena (Lenny moved his open air planned concert to this one) and hopefully book 2 night, under the promise of 2 different concerts. He'll get alot of repeat business. He can charge at least 80$ for cheap seats and 250$ for good ones.

Of course, im pretty sure Prince will never charge less than his cool million bucks per night so he might opt for the open air option at ramat gan stadium. Madonna drew 30,000 there which was less than expected (but it was her 3rd time here, and rather too close to her last concert here, 2010). Paul simon got about 18,000, leonard cohen about 50,000. Paul Mccartney drew about 60,000. I guess with the right timing Prince can draw 18,000-23,000.

Anyways, to my fellow israelis, the safest advice is: Go catch him in Europe.

oh, and, Prince...

I hope you're reading this...

Yeah right.

Peace n Love

[Edited 8/12/12 16:19pm]

[Edited 8/12/12 16:38pm]

[Edited 8/12/12 17:58pm]

Optimus2 said:

lezama said:

wtf..

wtf..is right just no need 4 there behaviour...its not correct...not correct at all...they way they treat those Poor Palestinians and have ya seen teh film Bruno?......they chase him away cuz he's dressed like a queen......so Prince would most probably get stoned b4 teh even touched his Guitar

wow.

You do realize "BRUNO" (aka sacha baron cohen) is originally from israel, do you...?

luv4u said:

Because of political unstability it's probably not safe to go to the middle east.

You could possibly right, for right now, but what about since Purpl Rain ....2012-1984 = 28 year span?

funkyrake said:

kanamit said:

Spot On!

I agree. When performing in Israel, do artists have the opportunityto witness the murder and incarceration of Palestinian people by Israel, the burning of Palestinian farms, the harassment

of Palestinian fisherman, the harassment by Israeli settlers, or the demolition of Palestinian

homes? Hopefully Prince does not ever go. If he does, he signals his agreement with Israel's apartheid and genocide.

Israel, the apple of God's eye. And who did he give the land to?

I'd say he'll be playing there soon enough. Dude will play anywhere to avoid having to release a new album these days

funkyrake said:

I agree. When performing in Israel, do artists have the opportunityto witness the murder and incarceration of Palestinian people by Israel, the burning of Palestinian farms, the harassment

of Palestinian fisherman, the harassment by Israeli settlers, or the demolition of Palestinian

homes? Hopefully Prince does not ever go. If he does, he signals his agreement with Israel's apartheid and genocide.

First -

The question at the topic of this post is actually really good.

I, For one, thought about it myself.

As Prince (and most of his band members it seems) are often very spiritual (not to be mixed with religious) - Israel sure seems like a place for them to visit, as it has very important places for each religion, whether it is Jewish, Muslim or Christian.

Just take a trip to Jerusalem and you can cover all your needs in that matter.

In the actual business side of things - I just think no promoter has yet to come up with the right amount of $$$ to make it happen.

People here love music concerts and in recent years, as stated in an earlier post, major artists came over here for very successful concerts.

I can see Prince doing a major gig in Jerusalem (calling it a peace/spiritual concert)+after show in tel-aviv.

Maybe he could head Lollapalooza TLV next summer??

Second-

I just LOVE it when people sitting in Liverpool or California go out and bash Israel like some folks here do.

It's soooo easy doing it when you're not knowledgeable enough about what REALLY is happening here on a daily basis. You might be shocked to know we do not murder arabs and burn farms here every single day! Neither would you find people riding camels in tel aviv.

(It is on the other hand, another example of how poor is the Israeli PR compared to the misleading propaganda offered by the "other side" of the dispute.)

Do you REALLY think there is a genocide going on in Israel as we speak? (Check out our lovely neighbors for that - this is pure genocide)

Do you even understand the big words you are using?

Where do you get your info? Facebook?

There are 2 sides to every story, and by your remarks it seems you are not really open minded to see them both.

Just so we are clear, It's not that I agree with every single thing happening here -

there are some very stupid extremists building settlements in places they should not, doing stuff they should not to people who have done nothing wrong.

You probably missed the news when Israeli government dealed with at least some of these places and people in recent years...but why bother.

There are, on the other hand, quit a few extremists \ Loonies on the other side willing to murder innocent Israelis in the name of religion.

The situation is not black and white as you claim.

But the most important issue is that:

STOP MIXING POLITICS WITH MUSIC!

If I go and visit the U.S - Does that mean I agree with every single policy it conducts??

Why do you think that if an artist come here, it means they think Israel is doing something good/wrong unless THEY say it?

In YOUR eyes it means they agree with Israeli politics - who are you to say that's what they think?

If it bothers you they came here – Just stop listening to their music.

It's as simple as that.

Thankfully there were, and are, many international artists who come here because they want their music to be heard.

They are not here to lecture about politics.

And you know what - some of them do have opinions, and they go out and say them- on stage or on the local newspapers , And it's just fine!

Every one entitled to have their own opinion, and this country is democratic.

(Even the Palestinians are - a thing not possible for them in any of the countries surrounding Israel!)

Hatred is bad for your health.

Get over it.

This forum is about MUSIC.

So let's just get back to the subject...and let's hope he does get here and funk up this place!

Thanks.

[Edited 8/14/12 8:08am]

It's too hot for him?

Optimus2 said:

maybe because its a horrible country...full of horrible people

Um on the rules page it states:

Do not post racist or 'hateful' material.
This means no racist/homophobic comments, period. Discussions of racism itself in the proper forum are OK. Making hateful comments, directed at a person or group, may get your account immediately suspended. We are extremely serious about this. prince.org is not a place for racial bigotry or hateful speech.

Person or group.... Come on mods what the hell.

I am sure that he's got some valuable reasons for not to sing in this so tiny part of the world..

dgil72 said:

First -

The question at the topic of this post is actually really good.

I, For one, thought about it myself.

As Prince (and most of his band members it seems) are often very spiritual (not to be mixed with religious) - Israel sure seems like a place for them to visit, as it has very important places for each religion, whether it is Jewish, Muslim or Christian.

Just take a trip to Jerusalem and you can cover all your needs in that matter.

In the actual business side of things - I just think no promoter has yet to come up with the right amount of $$$ to make it happen.

People here love music concerts and in recent years, as stated in an earlier post, major artists came over here for very successful concerts.

I can see Prince doing a major gig in Jerusalem (calling it a peace/spiritual concert)+after show in tel-aviv.

Maybe he could head Lollapalooza TLV next summer??

Second-

I just LOVE it when people sitting in Liverpool or California go out and bash Israel like some folks here do.

It's soooo easy doing it when you're not knowledgeable enough about what REALLY is happening here on a daily basis. You might be shocked to know we do not murder arabs and burn farms here every single day! Neither would you find people riding camels in tel aviv.

(It is on the other hand, another example of how poor is the Israeli PR compared to the misleading propaganda offered by the "other side" of the dispute.)

Do you REALLY think there is a genocide going on in Israel as we speak? (Check out our lovely neighbors for that - this is pure genocide)

Do you even understand the big words you are using?

Where do you get your info? Facebook?

There are 2 sides to every story, and by your remarks it seems you are not really open minded to see them both.

Just so we are clear, It's not that I agree with every single thing happening here -

there are some very stupid extremists building settlements in places they should not, doing stuff they should not to people who have done nothing wrong.

You probably missed the news when Israeli government dealed with at least some of these places and people in recent years...but why bother.

There are, on the other hand, quit a few extremists \ Loonies on the other side willing to murder innocent Israelis in the name of religion.

The situation is not black and white as you claim.

But the most important issue is that:

STOP MIXING POLITICS WITH MUSIC!

If I go and visit the U.S - Does that mean I agree with every single policy it conducts??

Why do you think that if an artist come here, it means they think Israel is doing something good/wrong unless THEY say it?

In YOUR eyes it means they agree with Israeli politics - who are you to say that's what they think?

If it bothers you they came here – Just stop listening to their music.

It's as simple as that.

Thankfully there were, and are, many international artists who come here because they want their music to be heard.

They are not here to lecture about politics.

And you know what - some of them do have opinions, and they go out and say them- on stage or on the local newspapers , And it's just fine!

Every one entitled to have their own opinion, and this country is democratic.

(Even the Palestinians are - a thing not possible for them in any of the countries surrounding Israel!)

Hatred is bad for your health.

Get over it.

This forum is about MUSIC.

So let's just get back to the subject...and let's hope he does get here and funk up this place!

Thanks.

[Edited 8/14/12 8:08am]

Dave1992 said:

dgil72 said:

First -

The question at the topic of this post is actually really good.

I, For one, thought about it myself.

As Prince (and most of his band members it seems) are often very spiritual (not to be mixed with religious) - Israel sure seems like a place for them to visit, as it has very important places for each religion, whether it is Jewish, Muslim or Christian.

Just take a trip to Jerusalem and you can cover all your needs in that matter.

In the actual business side of things - I just think no promoter has yet to come up with the right amount of $$$ to make it happen.

People here love music concerts and in recent years, as stated in an earlier post, major artists came over here for very successful concerts.

I can see Prince doing a major gig in Jerusalem (calling it a peace/spiritual concert)+after show in tel-aviv.

Maybe he could head Lollapalooza TLV next summer??

Second-

I just LOVE it when people sitting in Liverpool or California go out and bash Israel like some folks here do.

It's soooo easy doing it when you're not knowledgeable enough about what REALLY is happening here on a daily basis. You might be shocked to know we do not murder arabs and burn farms here every single day! Neither would you find people riding camels in tel aviv.

(It is on the other hand, another example of how poor is the Israeli PR compared to the misleading propaganda offered by the "other side" of the dispute.)

Do you REALLY think there is a genocide going on in Israel as we speak? (Check out our lovely neighbors for that - this is pure genocide)

Do you even understand the big words you are using?

Where do you get your info? Facebook?

There are 2 sides to every story, and by your remarks it seems you are not really open minded to see them both.

Just so we are clear, It's not that I agree with every single thing happening here -

there are some very stupid extremists building settlements in places they should not, doing stuff they should not to people who have done nothing wrong.

You probably missed the news when Israeli government dealed with at least some of these places and people in recent years...but why bother.

There are, on the other hand, quit a few extremists \ Loonies on the other side willing to murder innocent Israelis in the name of religion.

The situation is not black and white as you claim.

But the most important issue is that:

STOP MIXING POLITICS WITH MUSIC!

If I go and visit the U.S - Does that mean I agree with every single policy it conducts??

Why do you think that if an artist come here, it means they think Israel is doing something good/wrong unless THEY say it?

In YOUR eyes it means they agree with Israeli politics - who are you to say that's what they think?

If it bothers you they came here – Just stop listening to their music.

It's as simple as that.

Thankfully there were, and are, many international artists who come here because they want their music to be heard.

They are not here to lecture about politics.

And you know what - some of them do have opinions, and they go out and say them- on stage or on the local newspapers , And it's just fine!

Every one entitled to have their own opinion, and this country is democratic.

(Even the Palestinians are - a thing not possible for them in any of the countries surrounding Israel!)

Hatred is bad for your health.

Get over it.

This forum is about MUSIC.

So let's just get back to the subject...and let's hope he does get here and funk up this place!

Thanks.

[Edited 8/14/12 8:08am]

2nd that!

Now if Imago can just edit the picture to read "Prince. No Criticism Allowed" that would be just dandy.

[Edited 8/24/12 0:45am]

dgil72 said:

If I go and visit the U.S - Does that mean I agree with every single policy it conducts??

Please have a lok at the term 'boycott' and e.g. the Sun City Boycott.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Apartheid for some info.

Maybe you don't see it but the regimes everywhere, especially in the USA, have become fascist police states with no real justice and no care for the citizens at all.

All because of the lack of a thorough and complete investigation into 9/11.

This should give enough reason to limit certain activities if you choose to do so.

Same with the Israel situation.