DrD said:

Makes me sad as a long-standing Prince fan who has seen him so many times over the years, but I just think it is time to move on, which is why I actually almost never bisit and post at prince.org any longer.

Yes, do that, move on. No reason for you to bisit any longer. Bye.

djThunderfunk said:

iloveannie said:

djThunderfunk said:

Yes, do that, move on. No reason for you to bisit any longer. Bye.

Yes, even positive criticism is frowned upon here. Freedom of speech? No chance. You're either in or you're out.

As you said, "am I stopping you?". Say what you like. All opinions are welcome here. You're just wrong. Thats my opinion. Its sounds damn funky to me, and I love it thats he's revisited his '95 material. Look back at some of the comments on this thread. You call that 'positive criticism'? Its just purile and embarrassing. Sure, its not the best version of all time. Its . . . a . . . rehearsal!! The man has put this stream out for free. He thought we might find it interesting to hear the jam. He'll think twice about doing that again.

I've also just heard "Medicine Man" by The Bamboos. You think thats funky??!! Seriously? Looks like we're on opposite ends of the spectrum. Anyway, no hard feelings. We like what we like. I'll take Days of Wild thanks.

Malloy said:

iloveannie said:

djThunderfunk said: Yes, even positive criticism is frowned upon here. Freedom of speech? No chance. You're either in or you're out.

As you said, "am I stopping you?". Say what you like. All opinions are welcome here. You're just wrong. Thats my opinion. Its sounds damn funky to me, and I love it thats he's revisited his '95 material. Look back at some of the comments on this thread. You call that 'positive criticism'? Its just purile and embarrassing. Sure, its not the best version of all time. Its . . . a . . . rehearsal!! The man has put this stream out for free. He thought we might find it interesting to hear the jam. He'll think twice about doing that again.

So is your point that these jams should be free of critique because they were streamed for free?

Surely any artist exhibits their work expecting feedback - otherwise what's the point? To some fans it would be disingenuous to faun over everything Prince puts out simply for the sake of it.

iloveannie, and others, have every right to express their opposing opinion based on their personal taste. It certainly doesn't make them 'wrong'

'He'll think twice about doing that again' - unless Prince has spoken to you personally you can't possibly know that. The Fdeluxe response from the last jam didn't appear to put him off, so I very much doubt it.

Imo it's good for an artist to get a diverse reaction to their works - kinda offers some balance. It could actually encourage further growth

Ahh, now there was no reason to mess with Ain't Nobody. Leave that alone and this jam is alright.

Some of y'all trippin'. This is a rehearsal, it's not a live performance with an audience and a band feeding off each other. For what it is, it's pretty dang good. But imagine this at the end of a set, pre-encore, or at an afterparty. The vibe would be totally different.

Oh, one more thing. Metallica is better now than they were in 1983. Jus' sayin'.

iloveannie said:

djThunderfunk said:

Yes, do that, move on. No reason for you to bisit any longer. Bye.

Yes, even positive criticism is frowned upon here. Freedom of speech? No chance. You're either in or you're out.

Saywhatnow?

djThunderfunk said:

iloveannie said:

djThunderfunk said: Yes, even positive criticism is frowned upon here. Freedom of speech? No chance. You're either in or you're out.

Saywhatnow?

Well allrighty then... out.

[Edited 6/22/12 23:34pm]

djThunderfunk said:

Well allrighty then... out.

Okay so my comments may have been slightly flippant but I think what I really feel is bored. I'm just so bored with everything Prince has been putting out lately. Okay so it's excellent but it's not pushing any boundaries and for me that is an essential part of my musical enjoyment. And I really don't care for the excuses that people make for him. He's in charge of what gets out there and if he doesn't want any reaction then he shouldn't do it. I think he's so wrapped up in this little high-life of his that he's lost the ability to write a good song. Perhaps he no longer cares for music the way he once did. I don't know. Either way I'm thankful that there is more music being made than I can ever listen to by so many people but at the same time so sad that he no longer seems to be the musician I was once in awe of.

Wow. I just heard this. I've been aware of the track since it became a sticky, but after the last few leaked tracks were just so messy I didn't care enough to click play on the track. And now that I have, I think the whole thing is just a crime of poor taste. The Chaka Kahn part, the Wild and Loose part. None of it was exciting or interesting. Somebody play Prince "Toast To The Party Girl" so he can remember how jams are done. Shelby and them are stuck in the same rut as Prince and at this point his reputation as a live act is doing the chili sauce.

[Edited 6/23/12 12:55pm]

funksterr said:

Wow. I just heard this. I've been aware of the track since it became a sticky, but after the last few leaked tracks were just so messy I didn't care enough to click play on the track. And now that I have, I think the whole thing is just a crime of poor taste. The Chaka Kahn part, the Wild and Loose part. None of it was exciting or interesting. Somebody play Prince "Toast To The Party Girl" so he can remember how jams are done. Shelby and them are stuck in the same rut as Prince and at this point his reputation as a live act is doing the chili sauce.

[Edited 6/23/12 12:55pm]

I give up. Its a rehearsal recording. No more. Its not his next single or off a new album. I really do not understand the abuse. They are just rehearsing. A few fuck ups here and there. He's obviously not singing to full performance level. I've been bored with his recent setlists. He's pretty much playing the same set since 2004. Sure, now thats bullshit. But this? Nah, its still pretty funky to me and he's putting rehearsing some of those '95 jams for his live shows. Thats a GOOOOD thing people. To say he's all washed up and you're done with him based on this is ridiculous. Judging by his recent Oz shows he still seems to be doing it live. I don't want to sound like an apologist, but some of you need to chill.

Raspberry Beret?
Kiss?
Those hits lovin folks sure didnt know what this was when they started playi it on tour.
Myself & the rest of the NPGM alunmi were going OFF!
This killed live!
Mushrooms?

iloveannie said:

Having now heard this a few times (thank you firefox) I can honestly say, hand on heart, on my own life, that this would be the moment during a show that I would go to the toilet. Speaks volumes really.

[Edited 6/18/12 1:10am]

iloveannie said:

Okay so my comments may have been slightly flippant but I think what I really feel is bored. I'm just so bored with everything Prince has been putting out lately. Okay so it's excellent but it's not pushing any boundaries and for me that is an essential part of my musical enjoyment. And I really don't care for the excuses that people make for him. He's in charge of what gets out there and if he doesn't want any reaction then he shouldn't do it. I think he's so wrapped up in this little high-life of his that he's lost the ability to write a good song. Perhaps he no longer cares for music the way he once did. I don't know. Either way I'm thankful that there is more music being made than I can ever listen to by so many people but at the same time so sad that he no longer seems to be the musician I was once in awe of.

Well if you are bored u have 2 options. Either move on to something that excites you or lower your expectations for what u want from Prince. Its pretty childish to expect prince to "push boundaries" for u forever. He's a man not Jehovah. Prince still writes good songs but you want him to blow your mind which isn't likely to happen to a great degree at this point in time.

And you should not be worried about why he doesn't. That he doesn't is the reality. He is living a life just like you are and his desires are not the same as yours.

[Edited 6/27/12 4:34am]

Malloy said:

funksterr said:

Wow. I just heard this. I've been aware of the track since it became a sticky, but after the last few leaked tracks were just so messy I didn't care enough to click play on the track. And now that I have, I think the whole thing is just a crime of poor taste. The Chaka Kahn part, the Wild and Loose part. None of it was exciting or interesting. Somebody play Prince "Toast To The Party Girl" so he can remember how jams are done. Shelby and them are stuck in the same rut as Prince and at this point his reputation as a live act is doing the chili sauce.

[Edited 6/23/12 12:55pm]

I give up. Its a rehearsal recording. No more. Its not his next single or off a new album. I really do not understand the abuse. They are just rehearsing. A few fuck ups here and there. He's obviously not singing to full performance level. I've been bored with his recent setlists. He's pretty much playing the same set since 2004. Sure, now thats bullshit. But this? Nah, its still pretty funky to me and he's putting rehearsing some of those '95 jams for his live shows. Thats a GOOOOD thing people. To say he's all washed up and you're done with him based on this is ridiculous. Judging by his recent Oz shows he still seems to be doing it live. I don't want to sound like an apologist, but some of you need to chill.

Malloy you are sooooo right. Don't understand all this fuzz about a rehearsal (!). Purpose of rehearsing is to practice together and not to produce the next purple rain song. Just enjoy the output from the man from time to time and relax!

tricky99 said:

THIS is the REAL JAM OF THE YEAR!!!!

...at least 4 this year...

Just listened 2 this on the Radio!!!!

http://listen.to/princeradio

SO EXCELLENT!!!!!!

THX PRINCE!!!

nursev said:

The America guitar solo was cool though

After several listens, I think The America Solo is about the best thing on it.

Also: "Get FREAKY LET YOUR HEAD BOB"

Everything else, stays too far in the loop..But hey it's a rehersal..No Sweat. It does not convince me Prince has lost his edge and became weak.

This jam is nothing more than a jam, it's not giving us any insight that Prince has lost his flavor and funk..

I am curious as to what would make one think that based on a jam?

He still has it, and I don't need to prove it..It's just obvious..IMO

We already know he is one of the greatest artists around. AND he'll continue to be...However..in greatness, one still misses. And he 'Missed' it for me here..but It's not often he does. (Well for some it probably is..lol)

But when he does; it demonstrates to me..He's human and does what he wills flaws and all. I can't change that and honestly I would not want to. Someone will LOVE it, and for those that will..Keep on!

I still love Prince and his music...

I rather dance to the Dance Electric now,

Here is the good news! Prince has a HUGE catalog...Most likely there are several songs to listen to if you don't like another particular song. He has given us so much, that we can ignore the ones we are not feeling for ones we like. Now everyone wins..lol

End of discussion for me.

Cerebus said:

Ahh, now there was no reason to mess with Ain't Nobody. Leave that alone and this jam is alright.

Some of y'all trippin'. This is a rehearsal, it's not a live performance with an audience and a band feeding off each other. For what it is, it's pretty dang good. But imagine this at the end of a set, pre-encore, or at an afterparty. The vibe would be totally different.

Oh, one more thing. Metallica is better now than they were in 1983. Jus' sayin'.

So to recap:

EyeJester7 said:

nursev said:

The America guitar solo was cool though

After several listens, I think The America Solo is about the best thing on it.

Also: "Get FREAKY LET YOUR HEAD BOB"

Everything else, stays too far in the loop..But hey it's a rehersal..No Sweat. It does not convince me Prince has lost his edge and became weak.

This jam is nothing more than a jam, it's not giving us any insight that Prince has lost his flavor and funk..

I am curious as to what would make one think that based on a jam?

He still has it, and I don't need to prove it..It's just obvious..IMO

We already know he is one of the greatest artists around. AND he'll continue to be...However..in greatness, one still misses. And he 'Missed' it for me here..but It's not often he does. (Well for some it probably is..lol)

But when he does; it demonstrates to me..He's human and does what he wills flaws and all. I can't change that and honestly I would not want to. Someone will LOVE it, and for those that will..Keep on!

I still love Prince and his music...

I rather dance to the Dance Electric now,

Here is the good news! Prince has a HUGE catalog...Most likely there are several songs to listen to if you don't like another particular song. He has given us so much, that we can ignore the ones we are not feeling for ones we like. Now everyone wins..lol

End of discussion for me.

Yeah it is the best part of the jam. Prince still has it he still surprises me all the time and that tells me the music is still inside him

Just listened again, jam is funky!

ScissorsRockPaper said:

Just listened again, jam is funky!

ok, so listening to this makes me wanna get wild....shake, shake yo money maker, ahhhhaa-aah.

[Edited 6/30/12 11:12am]

djThunderfunk said:

SeanHanley1978 said:

After 6 or 7 plays, I'm gonna say that I am actually loving this at this point.. It's a mash-up of so many great things.. Days of Wild/Wild And Loose/Get Wild/ **(Mixing those three based on the title alone is kinda awesome) plus Ain't Nobody / America (who else got a little chicken skin when that bass riff kicked in )

I mean, P is just letting people hear these long, loose jam sessions, for FREE, the kind of stuff people were paying $60 for on an Italy Import CD (How much did YOU pay for the 'Soul Psychedelocide' rehearsal CD back in the day), and that was an HOUR of almost the same riff..

I like how he's revisiting the nuggets and protege stuff (Dance Electric, Ice Cream Castles, Mutiny, Wild and Loose, and this, with some of the 90's era funk) **though I don't really care for the new Extraloveable much either**

I'll take this version over the 'One Mo' Jam' Version any day, (Crystal Ball version and the Guitar solo WNPG segment still take the cake, and if he tore it up on the guitar like back then, Damn!) though the mixing is rough , certainly just a soundboard source, without the dynamics this(these) jams deserve (Drums Up/Guitar Up/Fuller Bass/etc)

I Hope He Keeps this Up.. I'm liking P as the new Jam Band.. 20 minute jams beat out the same 'greatest hits' set he's been playing so much lately (Please , No more 'Kiss' ... Ever... Please!)

I'd love a nice double disc set of 10-20 minute rehearsal jams ... it's been a while since we had so many in such a short time (read; The Bird Rehearsal/Noon Rendevouz Rehearsal/Feline Rehearsal)

~Just my thoughts~

~SH78

I agree with much of this. Right on!

Me too! So Funky!! I'm glad some are digging this and taking it in the context it was intended. I'd take Extralovable 11 over EL 82 though.....