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So Prince still isn't letting folks sing his songs on tv | |
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I'm actually okay with that. I'm firmly planted in denial | |
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I think Prince messed up on that one. Like it or hate it, American Idol has a huge audience. If Prince had let Sanchez sing that song, a lot of people would have been curious about what the original sounded like and googled it. Prince could have gotten himself a bunch of new fans - especially since How Come U Don't Call Me wasn't a pop hit (even though it is a great song).
Short sighted. Besides, Prince already let The Voice judges do a medley of his songs easlier this year, so why say "no" to American Idol? [Edited 5/24/12 20:51pm] | |
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One of the contestants in the blind audtions for The Voice here in Australia did How Come You Donlt Call Me
Saddest thing is I heard people say it was an Alicia Keys song!!!!! In the distance a light shines and I know it is mine. Someday I will touch it because it calls me. It says cross the line, cross the line. I know everything is not always what it seems, so I pinch myself daily just in case it's a dream | |
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2 of the gals on the Voice here is Oz did Purple Rain.
They murdered it, took it out back, shot it again, and then ran over it in their cars 10 times. | |
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That must've been Eric Benet.
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Yes, you are so much more visionary than Prince, eh? I mean, seeing as he's already actually performed himself on American Idol, its so obvious that he misses all the "tricks"
Regardless, as far as I'm aware, they don't have to ask for his permission (as long as they are not making significant changes to the lyrics or arrangement), but perhaps they are doing so out of courtesy? ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Good point Mindflux. Personally, I think others should sing any song. There is a lot of undiscovered talent on there and Adele is winning when it comes to her covers. True though that few ever know who actually wrote the original. I was one who though Howcome u don't call was Alicia's. Ha ha. But does it really matter in the big scheme of things? Are we still praising Thomas Edison's lightbulb though we've moved onto solar panels? It's like water wearing down rock and forming the future. All natural. "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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The songs have to be cleared in order to be performed by the copyright holder of the composition. I believe they have to pay a certain fee to play it.
Another reason I think he may not have wanted it done is that Idol here sells downloads of the songs immediately after the show broadcasts. Maybe Prince didn't want the song distributed that way by an unknown.
In the past, Stephanie Edwards performed "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore" on American Idol, so the song has been done on there. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Idol typically does make significant changes to arrangements. Contestants who don’t change the arrangement are derided. | |
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I have no problem with him not letting people sing his songs on these shows. If Amer Idol was more about good music and less about appealing to ten year old girls I wouldn't have any problem with it. But it's not. The performances take up about 10% of each show, while the background stories, the judges, the voting - are all bullshit filler. At the very inform us who the composers/original artists are (or play the original songs for comparison)and educate the masses. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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You're partially right. The songs don't have to be cleared by the copyright holder - songs can be performed, covered and even recorded and sold without the owner's permission. It happens all the time. So, Prince could not stop American Idol using his songs. The bit that you are right about is they have to pay a licence fee to use the music (which is always the case).
So, I did a bit of research and it turns out that it is actually Fox's budget constraints on the show which prevent certain artist's songs being performed. For example, you won't hear any Beatles on AI, because they're way too expensive. It seems this is also the case with Prince tracks. However, Fox can (and do) negotiate deals with the publishers to pay a lower fee in return for the exposure they would get. It would seem, in this case, Prince didn't feel the exposure was worth it. [Edited 5/26/12 0:54am] ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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See my post above ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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So you must have been over the moon when Prince himself performed on the show.
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Ahhh....Thanx. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Beatles songs have been performed many, many times on AI. They even had a Beatles week in 2010. | |
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Good for their asses. Least they won't be allowed to butcher his shit. | |
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I think the point is they don't sing them very often do to budget constraints. The beatles week was used to promote the VEGAS Beatles show. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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Quite right.
Consider that it can cost around US$500,000 to use a Beatles song and you'll understand why you won't be hearing them that often. Of course, the show makes a lot of money, but it won't if it continually has to fork out that kind of money! (by the way, that's PER PERFORMANCE!). ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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did you not see the apperance? it was garbage! if anything it confirms what XNY said about the poor quality of the show. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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U think Prince is short sighted after 30 plus years in the entertainment business? | |
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Personally I kind of love that about him. He protects his work rather than lines his pockets. Too many artists are desperate to license their music to whatever horrible show or product wants to use it. | |
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Well if someone were judging based on that decision, then he's without a doubt short sighted, and its not his past business affairs say do anything to contradict this | |
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Prince doesn't mind copying other musicians'their ideas, now does he?
** He copied the name of one of his albums from a Dutch band. He had no problem with doing that.
Golden Earring released N.E.W.S. in 1984. About 19 years before Prince released his N.E.W.S. album.
** He copied the idea of two sisters in one band: http://www.loislane.nl/ To be honest, he wrote a great song for them, that was a hit. So, you would never hear Loislane complain
And there sure are a lot of more examples than just these two.
However, I think copying or 'being inspired by', is not a bad thing. It just shows he has a sharp and sensitive antenna for what works and is good. 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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But its not Prince's decision ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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I hope there are more examples, because those 2 you've provided are terrible! Please try harder ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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Did you actually read the thread? If you had, you would know that this "decision" (as, it wasn't a decision) has already been dealt with.
Furthermore, you're implying that he's shit at business. Right - 35 years in the game, made multiple millions of dollars, in the top 30 best-selling artists of all time, still makes huge amounts from touring.....erm, excuse me if I question your judgement at all! ...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...
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No, need help with that. There sure are orgers who can complete the list.
99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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