Hey guys,

Again, I did a thorough search and saw that this topic has been discussed many times, but all of the threads are closed/old now and I couldn't reply to them! But I have some visual aids and information regarding the script (nothing new, but I've just put it all together) to get a clearer idea of what was filmed and what wasn't.

The script btw can be found over here: http://corky.net/scripts/...eRain.html

So I want to start with the scene that takes place after The Kid and Apples sleep together for the first time; originally Apples (Vanity in the script) was to wake up to the sound of The Kid's parents fighting, gets scared and hightails it out of the house. Morris obviously followed them home earlier and sensing an opportunity, follows Apollonia:

(NOTE: I changed Vanity to Appolonia in the script just to make it clearer)

(50) EXT. PRINCE’S HOUSE AND STREET — NIGHT

Apollonia moves quickly along the side of the house, trying desperately to find her wav. Suddenly a HAND reaches out of the darkness, GRABS her by the throat. She SCREAMS, swings her bag desperately — something CRASHES, into the bushes—

VOICE: Damn, baby, hold it! Hold it!! (wails) Oh, God — God! You broke my nose!

She sees it’s Morris — she’s beside herself with fear and rage—

APOLLONIA: You shit! What the hell are you doing here?

He struggles in the bushes — DOGS start BARKING—

MORRIS: Shh! Shh! Shh! oh, Lord help me outta here. (a beat) Hee, hee — I know you wouldn’t want to spend the whole night with ol’ pencil dick.

APOLLONIA: Your nose alright?

MORRIS: My nose is fine, I’m just wondering if I fucked my shoes up… (a beat) C’mon …

They cut across the yard, head to the street. The CADDY is parked at the curb. Jerome leans against it, reading a newspaper—

APOLLONIA: Hi, Jerome. Wow! Nice hubcaps.

He grins proudly from ear to ear — the Caddy sports new chrome wire wheels—

JEROME: You like them, huh?

APOLLONIA: Beautiful.

Morris MOANS dismally—

MORRIS: Jerome…you think these can be fixed?

His shoes are badly scuffed, the leather torn across the top—

JEROME: I think they’re dead, man.

APOLLONIA: God, I’m sorry.

MORRIS: Shit — it’s so rough out here.

So this scene was actually filmed in its entirety, and at least at the time the trailer was edited was still in the film. These two clips from the trailer and the music video for Jungle Love (both on the Purple Rain dvd) still exist:

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As you can see, the first one is of Morris grabbing Apollonia, and the second is them running back to the Caddy. Fun note: you can see Morris trying not to get his stacy adams dirty LOL!

Following this, we have a long dialogue scene within the Caddy:

(52)  INT./EXT. CADDY -- NIGHT

          Jerome drives.  Morris and Apollonia sit in
          the backseat. He gazes at her ardently--

                           MORRIS
               Jerome!

          Jerome snaps a look in the rear-view --
          Morris gives him a deft nod. Jerome
          opens the glove compartment, searches
          through the cassette tapes. He finds the
          one he wants, snaps it into the player.
          RESTAURANT AMBIANCE fills the car...

          Note:  The restaurant ambiance will grow
          in volume, and will be followed by
          exaggerated dinner music, punctuated
          with strings and delicate cymbals.  The
          MUSIC plays throughout this scene -- and
          Morris times his words to the ebb and
          flow of the piece to insure the proper
          dramatic effect.

          ...dinner MUSIC begins--

                           JEROME
               Cocktails before dinner?

                           MORRIS
               Yes -- two piña coladas.

                           APOLLONIA
               Uh...make mine a virgin.



                           JEROME
               Okay...

          Jerome braces his knees against the
          wheel, pours two premixed coladas into
          plastic glasses--

                           JEROME
               (to Morris)
               Will you be having a virgin as
               well?

                           MORRIS
               Ye-es!  For dessert!!
               Whawhak!

          Jerome stifles a laugh, pours a rum
          miniature into Morris' glass.  He hands
          them back--

                           MORRIS
               Thank you.  Here you are,
               dear.

          They savor their drinks -- Morris'
          fervor grows by leaps and bounds--

                           MORRIS
               Jerome, uh, get your pad and
               pencil, I think it's gonna be
               kinda right.  If my judge of
               character is correct, it's
               going to be about loving
               tonight.
               (a beat)
               Stop me when I get to
               seventeen.

          Jerome places a pad by his side, pencil
          at the ready. He settles the Caddy to a
          cruising 55 -- Morris looks deeply into
          Apollonia's eyes--

                           MORRIS
               Excuse me, baby...I bet you
               didn't know I had a piece of
               this restaurant, did you?
               (a beat)
               May I taste that?

          He takes Apollonia's drink, slurps a
          little, burps--

                           MORRIS
               Huh, excuse me, that's kind of
               weak...here, try mine.

          She does, and begins coughing violently-
          -



                          APOLLONIA

               Good God!

                           MORRIS
               Y'know...they say that saliva
               is an aphrodisiac.
               (a beat)
               You look so lovely tonight.

                           APOLLONIA
               (coughing)
               Why...thank you.

                           MORRIS
               Probably you'd look better
               under exotic...red...liqhts.
               (another thoughT)
               I wish you could see my home.
               It's...it's so exciting.

          He leans close to her, speaks in a soft,
          sexy voice--

                           MORRIS
               In my bedroom, I have a brass
               waterbed ...

                          APOLLONIA
               Oooh!

                           MORRIS
               I have an Italian cook, Gino
               Izogochograchi, or something
               like that.

          She giggles, looks at him deeply--

                           MORRIS
               It's funny...your eyes -- when
               you stare at me like that, it
               causes my stomach to qui-
               quiver.  Oh, Lord...

          An idea flashes across his mind--

                           MORRIS
               Do you like diamonds?

                           APOLLONIA
               Uh, huh.

                           MORRIS
               Yeah ...?


                           APOLLONIA
               Yeah.

                           MORRIS
               I know it's rather masculine,
               but -- try this one on.

          He slides a large glass diamond on her
          finger--

                           APOLLONIA
               Ohhh!

                           MORRIS
               My God, darling it fits.

          He studies her hands closely--

                           MORRIS
               You must have strong hands,
               but -- they're so soft...like
               oils in my bubble bath.
               (a beat)
               Damn ...

          He leans close to her--

                           MORRIS
               Darling...?

                           APOLLONIA
               Yeah...?

                           MORRIS
               I'm not usually so forward,
               but -- would you like to make
               love to me?  I can make it so
               nice ...

          She giggles freely, looks at him with
          big eyes--

                           MORRIS
               Do you know what is meant by
               the words, huh, I hate to use
               them, they're so harsh, so
               American...I mean, and yet on
               the other hand, they're
               exciting words.  The words...
               (pause)
               ...chili sauce.  Oh, Lord.
               (a beat)



                           MORRIS
               You know, I haven't made love
               in so long, but with you I
               know it would be just like
               riding a bike.  I'd remember
               everything I've ever learned.
               (a beat)
               Baby, if the kid can't make
               you come, nobody can.

          Jerome checks off his pad--
                              
                           JEROME
               (whispers)
               Morris..!

                           MORRIS
               Yeah...?

                           JEROME
               Seventeen.

          Morris fixes Vanity with his half-
          lidded, pouty-lip look--

                           MORRIS
               Huh, what's it gonna to be
               baby?

So this of course ended up being the track "Chili Sauce" on The Time's Ice Cream Castles, released just after the movie. However the tracks were recorded around the time the film was in production, which for me totally blurs the line between what came first and what was inspired by the other....for me, the interesting part is the line "if the kid can't make you come, nobody can!" is still in there, which would've been damn confusing in the film seeing as Prince's character is specifically referred to as "the kid" several times. I know "the kid" is also an affectionate term to use referring to yourself also, but why would they have Morris use this phrase? Even on Ice Cream Castles it feels out of place.

So no word on whether this scene was intended to be filmed, or was cut after Vanity left the project and Prince decided to use it on the album instead. But interesting that a chunk of it (Morris and Apollonia leaving the kid's house) was filmed.

Anyway, just wanted to provide some gathering of information! Still have a few more scenes to cover, obviously.

do you have the workprint version of purple rain with different scenes?

Oh man, people keep asking me that haha! No these are direct from the trailer and the music video of Jungle Love, which both can be found on the 20th Anniversary DVD.

blackat said:

Oh man, people keep asking me that haha! No these are direct from the trailer and the music video of Jungle Love, which both can be found on the 20th Anniversary DVD.

you might want to get a copy of it as it would obviously make it easier to do what you are doing, as you can see what's included or not

Wait....you can actually GET a workprint of the film?! How does one obtain such a thing?

Back then during the "PR" mania, I also thought Morris was reffering the name "Kid" to Prince. "Why would Morris give props to him?" was what I was thinking.

The only other person that I heard use the nickname ("Kid") was Richard Pryor on one of his records.

blackat said:

Wait....you can actually GET a workprint of the film?! How does one obtain such a thing?

it's been in circulation amongst fans for years. if you have a look on the internets you might find somewhere to download the dvd

blackat said:

Wait....you can actually GET a workprint of the film?! How does one obtain such a thing?

That was from the Purple Rain trailer

PR & UTCM trailers have deleted scenes

OldFriends4Sale said:

blackat said:

Wait....you can actually GET a workprint of the film?! How does one obtain such a thing?

That was from the Purple Rain trailer

PR & UTCM trailers have deleted scenes

Er....which I SAID in my original post. That's where I made the gifs from.

Also the fight scene with Jellybean is shown in When Doves Cry. I really don't get why they deleted that scene

Questlove claims he's seen the complete "P.R" movie with all of the edited scenes put back in. I don't know if he was telling the truth or trying to rile up fans on the org.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Questlove claims he's seen the complete "P.R" movie with all of the edited scenes put back in. I don't know if he was telling the truth or trying to rile up fans on the org.

Could be that he knows Albert Magnoli on a personal level - who I'm sure has the director's cut within possession - and let him watch it.

The director's cut is definitely in desparate need for an official release.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Questlove claims he's seen the complete "P.R" movie with all of the edited scenes put back in. I don't know if he was telling the truth or trying to rile up fans on the org.

It would be on a bit torent somewhere by now. So I don't believe that either

SPYZFAN1 said:

Questlove claims he's seen the complete "P.R" movie with all of the edited scenes put back in. I don't know if he was telling the truth or trying to rile up fans on the org.

loads of fans have seen it as it's been circulating for years

unique said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

Questlove claims he's seen the complete "P.R" movie with all of the edited scenes put back in. I don't know if he was telling the truth or trying to rile up fans on the org.

loads of fans have seen it as it's been circulating for years

I got that workprint (horrible quality) ..is there more out there then?

Really? Interesting. I'd like to know if the entire "barn scene" was left in.

Not that I'm asking anyone to post it but I'm surprised someone would hoard a copy that long. I've heard the uncut movie has been in the collector's circle long before the DVD anniversary release.

Who knows? Maybe in 2014 the "30th Anniversary Complete Version" will be released.

SPYZFAN1 said:

Really? Interesting. I'd like to know if the entire "barn scene" was left in.

Not that I'm asking anyone to post it but I'm surprised someone would hoard a copy that long. I've heard the uncut movie has been in the collector's circle long before the DVD anniversary release.

Who knows? Maybe in 2014 the "30th Anniversary Complete Version" will be released.

The work-print tape has some shows in directors mode without the incidental music such as th "bar seduction " scene with Morris and Apples..no music just crowd-crew noise..and extended Lake Minnetonka scene "You were great last night".."I just got lucky" etc...

It also shows Prince "terrorizing" Apollonia and Morris more than what was shown ..before he kicked Morris into the trash can etc...and the race between him and the train

There's no barn scene on the workprint

2uestlove aint seen shit we all haven't

It was disucssed before that there was probably nothing left from the cutting room floor because they weren't thinking that far in the future way back in 83.

OldFriends4Sale said:

blackat said:

Wait....you can actually GET a workprint of the film?! How does one obtain such a thing?

That was from the Purple Rain trailer

PR & UTCM trailers have deleted scenes

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

FragileUndertow said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That was from the Purple Rain trailer

PR & UTCM trailers have deleted scenes

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

oh damn!!! there's more?

FragileUndertow said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That was from the Purple Rain trailer

PR & UTCM trailers have deleted scenes

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

there's a bunch of deleted scenes in circulation for that, plus about 4 hours of outtakes of SOTT and 2 hours or so of outtakes for the mountains video which appears a the end of UTCM

FragileUndertow said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That was from the Purple Rain trailer

PR & UTCM trailers have deleted scenes

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

The whole movie is a deleted scene.

missfee said:

FragileUndertow said:

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

The whole movie is a deleted scene.

unfortunately it wasn't

apparently what circulates as the trailer is actually the directors cut

Of all the deleted footage for this film, I'd really like to see the train race. It was scripted and I believe a small portion of it was used for the When Doves Cry montage.

HuMpThAnG said:

FragileUndertow said:

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

oh damn!!! there's more?

missfee said:

FragileUndertow said:

The Graffitti bridge trailer has deleed scenes as well

The whole movie is a deleted scene.

Thanks rdhull...Cool to hear that we didn't miss a whole lot. I guess from reading the script it made me think there was more deleted scenes.

I agree they probably weren't thinking to save footage way back in 1983. They didn't know if the movie was going to be a huge success or a huge flop.

blacknote said:

Of all the deleted footage for this film, I'd really like to see the train race. It was scripted and I believe a small portion of it was used for the When Doves Cry montage.

I believe the train race was filmed, as it takes place around the same time as the fight with Jellybean at Apple's rehearsal - and that was filmed in it's entirety.

I haven't had a chance to come back and post what else I have, but this what I believe was shot:

- Scene at The Kid's house with Apollonia and Morris

- Barn scene

- Fight at Apples rehearsal + train montage

- Jill's piano scene (before she gives The Kid the tape)

- Extended dialogue between Apollonia and Morris at the club (brass waterbed etc)

- Extended opening scene for Apollonia; getting the cash off the businessman to rent the hotel

- Extended opening scene at First Avenue; Jungle Love

I'll have to go back and read the script again, but this is just what I'm gathering from snippets scene in the trailer/music videos.

wow....I saw this script back in august 1998 my freshman year of college and printed all the pages of it which this version of the movie was much more risque than the released version.

Why in the world is Morris gripping Apples by the neck? Dang!

APOLLONIA: Your nose alright?

MORRIS: My nose is fine, I’m just wondering if I fucked my shoes up…

Finally...after some 20 odd years...I have a new Morris Day line to add to my mental rolodex. I will be spending the next few days at work waiting for the opportunity to use it.

And yes...I wear Stacy Adams' to work. Not the Morris Day two-tones (I save those for special occasions), but no dress shoes touch my feet unless they are Stacy Adams.

Awesome thread!