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Prince- from a liberal to a conservative? Forget religion-are fams more upset with Prince as of late because he has become a conservative.
He used to be about sex, freedom, breaking rules, and God. Now a strong argument could be made that he is about money, order, adhering to THE rules, and monotheism. Thoughts? Arguments? "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: Forget religion-are fams more upset with Prince as of late because he has become a conservative.
He used to be about sex, freedom, breaking rules, and God. Now a strong argument could be made that he is about money, order, adhering to THE rules, and monotheism. Thoughts? Arguments? Even in those aspects of sex, freedom, breaking rules and God...how has he changed, really? | |
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who sez he's conservative? he's just bein him...only in a minty fresh new flavor, i guess...
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put it this way...i dont see him turning up at the next Conservative party conference (thank God).
Prince isnt conservative he's moral..there is a difference | |
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Seems like he was always concerned about the money...getting paid
for his work...don't remember him giving away too many cds and stuff in the old days. He's still making his own rules... He's always talked about God... If he is conservative what does that make George Bush Sr.? So...how's everybody doing?  | |
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I think it's clear that from HIS point of view, his new experience of the Truth HAS set him free, that he IS breaking rules by openly discussing the New Translation, and sex is something to be cherished as an expression of God/Spirituality and not to be treated as commonly as cussing.
No matter how some see this process as a pulling away from his old ideals, he will always see it as a natural progression from his original manifesto. I've also noticed from answers he's given in past Q & A sessions that he does indeed think differently - almost always the opposite of how most people would intuitively think. | |
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Jestyr said: I think it's clear that from HIS point of view, his new experience of the Truth HAS set him free, that he IS breaking rules by openly discussing the New Translation, and sex is something to be cherished as an expression of God/Spirituality and not to be treated as commonly as cussing.
Excellent observation, Jestyr! No matter how some see this process as a pulling away from his old ideals, he will always see it as a natural progression from his original manifesto. I've also noticed from answers he's given in past Q & A sessions that he does indeed think differently - almost always the opposite of how most people would intuitively think.  | |
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Anji said: Jestyr said: I think it's clear that from HIS point of view, his new experience of the Truth HAS set him free, that he IS breaking rules by openly discussing the New Translation, and sex is something to be cherished as an expression of God/Spirituality and not to be treated as commonly as cussing.
Excellent observation, Jestyr! No matter how some see this process as a pulling away from his old ideals, he will always see it as a natural progression from his original manifesto. I've also noticed from answers he's given in past Q & A sessions that he does indeed think differently - almost always the opposite of how most people would intuitively think. Why thank you, mate. | |
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Actually Prince is more liberal than ever. He is speaking openly about Religion and more importantly about the economic structure of the Capitalist system in America and its effects on various groups of people. He blasts the media(his views on point with the TRUTH about the manipulative media that is nothing more than a tool used to blind the masses by those in power). Moreover his ideas about the institution of Slavery, the genocide of Native Americans and the fairy tale known as U.S. History is as far from conservative as you could possibly get. Prince has realized that our perceived differences are used to seperate not unite. He is getting to the divide and conquer philosophy this country and much of the world was founded on. I honestly think that most fans are missing the point that Prince is trying to make. He is trying to free himself from a system that only respects those in power, a system that uses lies/half truths to divide the masses, which keeps them ignorant to what is really going on in the world and the true cause of the problems. By doing so he is trying to wake up those that want to listen. Unfortunately most Americans are so consumed by their ingrained beliefs that they cannot see the forrest for the trees. Many in America believe in the U.S. Government, the lies about our Fore Fathers, and the rhetoric of our current President. Therefore the focus to much on the religious aspect and completely overlook the societal aspect that is now dominating Prince's music. | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: Actually Prince is more liberal than ever. He is speaking openly about Religion and more importantly about the economic structure of the Capitalist system in America and its effects on various groups of people. He blasts the media(his views on point with the TRUTH about the manipulative media that is nothing more than a tool used to blind the masses by those in power). Moreover his ideas about the institution of Slavery, the genocide of Native Americans and the fairy tale known as U.S. History is as far from conservative as you could possibly get. Prince has realized that our perceived differences are used to seperate not unite. He is getting to the divide and conquer philosophy this country and much of the world was founded on. I honestly think that most fans are missing the point that Prince is trying to make. He is trying to free himself from a system that only respects those in power, a system that uses lies/half truths to divide the masses, which keeps them ignorant to what is really going on in the world and the true cause of the problems. By doing so he is trying to wake up those that want to listen. Unfortunately most Americans are so consumed by their ingrained beliefs that they cannot see the forrest for the trees. Many in America believe in the U.S. Government, the lies about our Fore Fathers, and the rhetoric of our current President. Therefore the focus to much on the religious aspect and completely overlook the societal aspect that is now dominating Prince's music.
I don't get your point about him talking more about religion qualifies him as a liberal. I work with some very overzealous christians and I literally have to wear headphones to tune them out because its nonstop all day. They are the furthest thing from liberal but will lunge at the opportunity to engage in church chat. He strikes me as someone scrambling to find a cause. There are grassroots efforts that are more clear, concise, and effective than his last several albums, and operate on a much tighter budget. Doesn't it seem peculiar that with all the religious rhetoric, noone can say for sure that he's a JW? How do you staunchly support a religion's beliefs, but you're not proud enough to publicly admit which faith it is? Prince's "everything you thought was true is wrong, and this is really the way it is" approach reeks of the same tactics UFO enthusiasts, ghost chasers, and other fanatical people use. Prince is not a historian. | |
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Ouch. Could ya'll please stop associating Prince w/ the word "liberal". Makes my brain hurt! | |
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Take a little quiz and see where your own political views stand. You may be surprised.
http://www.self-gov.org/wspq.html | |
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I'm a right winger, just like I thought. | |
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Tom said: DorothyParkerWasCool said: Actually Prince is more liberal than ever. He is speaking openly about Religion and more importantly about the economic structure of the Capitalist system in America and its effects on various groups of people. He blasts the media(his views on point with the TRUTH about the manipulative media that is nothing more than a tool used to blind the masses by those in power). Moreover his ideas about the institution of Slavery, the genocide of Native Americans and the fairy tale known as U.S. History is as far from conservative as you could possibly get. Prince has realized that our perceived differences are used to seperate not unite. He is getting to the divide and conquer philosophy this country and much of the world was founded on. I honestly think that most fans are missing the point that Prince is trying to make. He is trying to free himself from a system that only respects those in power, a system that uses lies/half truths to divide the masses, which keeps them ignorant to what is really going on in the world and the true cause of the problems. By doing so he is trying to wake up those that want to listen. Unfortunately most Americans are so consumed by their ingrained beliefs that they cannot see the forrest for the trees. Many in America believe in the U.S. Government, the lies about our Fore Fathers, and the rhetoric of our current President. Therefore the focus to much on the religious aspect and completely overlook the societal aspect that is now dominating Prince's music.
I don't get your point about him talking more about religion qualifies him as a liberal. I work with some very overzealous christians and I literally have to wear headphones to tune them out because its nonstop all day. They are the furthest thing from liberal but will lunge at the opportunity to engage in church chat. He strikes me as someone scrambling to find a cause. There are grassroots efforts that are more clear, concise, and effective than his last several albums, and operate on a much tighter budget. Doesn't it seem peculiar that with all the religious rhetoric, noone can say for sure that he's a JW? How do you staunchly support a religion's beliefs, but you're not proud enough to publicly admit which faith it is? Prince's "everything you thought was true is wrong, and this is really the way it is" approach reeks of the same tactics UFO enthusiasts, ghost chasers, and other fanatical people use. Prince is not a historian. I'm truly amazed by your lack of reading comprehension skills. I honestly do not think you read posts thoroughly before you comment. My comment mentions that he talks more about religion, however I also stated that most fans focus too much on his religious beliefs and overlook the other points that he makes in the music. The Rainbow Children while on the surface level was about God yet on a more personal level about becoming more aware of the system and how to free yourself from it. You really need to enhance your comprehension skills. | |
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I Think Prince has always Been Conservative with How He Presents His Work&things.in fact He did just enough to stir things up&then went into a Complete direct attack with His Work&Overall Presentation IMHO.the Cat is a Hybrid with all things to Me&whatever He works He goes off that Base but He has a Conservative direction with staying in a certain mindset at the end of the day. mistermaxxx | |
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mistermcgee said: Take a little quiz and see where your own political views stand. You may be surprised.
http://www.self-gov.org/wspq.html hmm...according to that I'm a centrist ~KiKi | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: Tom said: DorothyParkerWasCool said: Actually Prince is more liberal than ever. He is speaking openly about Religion and more importantly about the economic structure of the Capitalist system in America and its effects on various groups of people. He blasts the media(his views on point with the TRUTH about the manipulative media that is nothing more than a tool used to blind the masses by those in power). Moreover his ideas about the institution of Slavery, the genocide of Native Americans and the fairy tale known as U.S. History is as far from conservative as you could possibly get. Prince has realized that our perceived differences are used to seperate not unite. He is getting to the divide and conquer philosophy this country and much of the world was founded on. I honestly think that most fans are missing the point that Prince is trying to make. He is trying to free himself from a system that only respects those in power, a system that uses lies/half truths to divide the masses, which keeps them ignorant to what is really going on in the world and the true cause of the problems. By doing so he is trying to wake up those that want to listen. Unfortunately most Americans are so consumed by their ingrained beliefs that they cannot see the forrest for the trees. Many in America believe in the U.S. Government, the lies about our Fore Fathers, and the rhetoric of our current President. Therefore the focus to much on the religious aspect and completely overlook the societal aspect that is now dominating Prince's music.
I don't get your point about him talking more about religion qualifies him as a liberal. I work with some very overzealous christians and I literally have to wear headphones to tune them out because its nonstop all day. They are the furthest thing from liberal but will lunge at the opportunity to engage in church chat. He strikes me as someone scrambling to find a cause. There are grassroots efforts that are more clear, concise, and effective than his last several albums, and operate on a much tighter budget. Doesn't it seem peculiar that with all the religious rhetoric, noone can say for sure that he's a JW? How do you staunchly support a religion's beliefs, but you're not proud enough to publicly admit which faith it is? Prince's "everything you thought was true is wrong, and this is really the way it is" approach reeks of the same tactics UFO enthusiasts, ghost chasers, and other fanatical people use. Prince is not a historian. I'm truly amazed by your lack of reading comprehension skills. I honestly do not think you read posts thoroughly before you comment. My comment mentions that he talks more about religion, however I also stated that most fans focus too much on his religious beliefs and overlook the other points that he makes in the music. The Rainbow Children while on the surface level was about God yet on a more personal level about becoming more aware of the system and how to free yourself from it. You really need to enhance your comprehension skills. I'm truly amazed at your condescending cunt-like attitude. I can read just fine, thanks. The first paragraph of my reply was in response to the sentence "Actually Prince is more liberal than ever. He is speaking openly about Religion...". Get off your high horse, because you really don't belong there. The first thing most people learn in gradeschool is manners. Prince is drawing more attention to his religious beliefs these days, so its not unreasonable for fans to discuss it more. | |
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OUCH!!  | |
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