I've never heard this song but I'm inclined to think the same thing. We know he channels his emotions and frustrations into his songs. I really loved them together...it's truly a shame that it didn't last.

candyrn said:

candyrn said:

PurpleChi said:

I'm sorry, but were you there, or do you know someone who was there and can attest to all of that? I'm not saying she did not cheat on him...she may have, but I'm not of those who subscribe to the notion that every single Prince song is autobiographical. I know that the going rumor is that I Love U/Don't Trust U is was written about Mayte, but do we just take hearsay and call it Gospel? Did those words actually come out of Prince's mouth? Actually, I'm being serious. Does anyone know that this is song is actually written about Mayte from a source outside of the usual Prince rumor mills?

Of course I wasn't there...but there were many accounts of what was happening. What was published was that Prince met Mayte via Mayte's mother- she was a young teen girl at the time. Her mother saw how smitten Prince was with her and she asked that he wait before becoming sexually involved with her daugther, Mayte. Prince agreed. Prince and Mayte married in 1996, however, in 1999, he announced he wanted to annull and remarry Mayte because of their new religious beliefs. But they never did..by June 2000, Mayte was now with (or engaged) rocker Tommy Lee. Then in Dec 2001, Prince married Manuela.

Still, during their marriage, Prince proclaimed his love for Mayte openly. He stayed at home to be with her and spent less time in the studio for her and for their deep relationship. Frankly, I don't thik Mayte was ready for it all. When I heard the song, it seemed so incredibly clear to me, who Prince was singing about. It was his own life's observation. Here are the lyrics

Lyrics to I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore :

I could tell from the moment U walked in the room
That it wasn't your dress U had on
That wasn't your perfume
And what happened 2 the ring that I gave U?
What am I 2 assume?
I love U, but I just don't trust U anymore

U could tell from the moment U looked in my eyes
That I could see right through U
U must apologise
I've always given U the best in life
Even in the wrong, it was right
I know U trust me, but U don't love me anymore
No

I remember meeting U here in the good ol' days
I would never pick the flower of my favourite protege
Maybe if I would have
Then U would not treat me this way
U tricked me - but U will not anymore

No, no
I love you, but I don't trust U anymore

I could tell from the moment U walked in the room
That it wasn't your dress U had on
That wasn't your perfume
And what happened 2 the ring that I gave U?
What am I 2 assume?
I love U, but I just don't trust U anymore

U could tell from the moment U looked in my eyes
That I could see right through U
U must apologise
I've always given U the best in life
Even in the wrong, it was right
I know U trust me, but U don't love me anymore
No

I remember meeting U here in the good ol' days
I would never pick the flower of my favourite protege
Maybe if I would have
Then U would not treat me this way
U tricked me - but U will not anymore

No, no
I love you, but I don't trust U anymore

I truly think Prince knew he had the love of his life....and she wanted what he couldn't give. It's a tragic love story...but I think this one tragic story is Mayte's and Prince's.

Some people's timelines are all wrong.

New Power Soul CD came out in 1998. Prince and Mayte were married in 1996 and their son died in late 1996.

so in about 18 months after their child died... Prince was thanking Manuella on his New Power Soul CD. The same woman who became his wife after he divorced Mayte.

I dunno, but I have to think that to get a "thanks" from Prince on a CD... you had to be pretty important to him.... not someone you just met.

Mayte wasn't seen with Tommy until 2000. 2 years after Prince is thanking the woman who later became his wife.

amorbella said:

candyrn said:

Of course I wasn't there...but there were many accounts of what was happening. What was published was that Prince met Mayte via Mayte's mother- she was a young teen girl at the time. Her mother saw how smitten Prince was with her and she asked that he wait before becoming sexually involved with her daugther, Mayte. Prince agreed. Prince and Mayte married in 1996, however, in 1999, he announced he wanted to annull and remarry Mayte because of their new religious beliefs. But they never did..by June 2000, Mayte was now with (or engaged) rocker Tommy Lee. Then in Dec 2001, Prince married Manuela.

Still, during their marriage, Prince proclaimed his love for Mayte openly. He stayed at home to be with her and spent less time in the studio for her and for their deep relationship. Frankly, I don't thik Mayte was ready for it all. When I heard the song, it seemed so incredibly clear to me, who Prince was singing about. It was his own life's observation. Here are the lyrics

Lyrics to I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore :

I could tell from the moment U walked in the room
That it wasn't your dress U had on
That wasn't your perfume
And what happened 2 the ring that I gave U?
What am I 2 assume?
I love U, but I just don't trust U anymore

U could tell from the moment U looked in my eyes
That I could see right through U
U must apologise
I've always given U the best in life
Even in the wrong, it was right
I know U trust me, but U don't love me anymore
No

I remember meeting U here in the good ol' days
I would never pick the flower of my favourite protege
Maybe if I would have
Then U would not treat me this way
U tricked me - but U will not anymore

No, no
I love you, but I don't trust U anymore

I could tell from the moment U walked in the room
That it wasn't your dress U had on
That wasn't your perfume
And what happened 2 the ring that I gave U?
What am I 2 assume?
I love U, but I just don't trust U anymore

U could tell from the moment U looked in my eyes
That I could see right through U
U must apologise
I've always given U the best in life
Even in the wrong, it was right
I know U trust me, but U don't love me anymore
No

I remember meeting U here in the good ol' days
I would never pick the flower of my favourite protege
Maybe if I would have
Then U would not treat me this way
U tricked me - but U will not anymore

No, no
I love you, but I don't trust U anymore

I truly think Prince knew he had the love of his life....and she wanted what he couldn't give. It's a tragic love story...but I think this one tragic story is Mayte's and Prince's.

Don't get me wrong--I understood your point to begin with, but let's also remember that Manuela started "working" for Prince while Prince and Mayte were still married. Remember she was in the "Come On" video, which was released in 1998 (before the divorce). Also in 1998, Prince purchased a home in Spain and more or less left Mayte there for the remainder of their marriage. I agree that Prince was quite vocal about how he felt about Mayte during their marriage, and it was beautiful to witness. However, there are always two sides to a story. We don't know how everything actually unfolded. Prince is a songwriter. He knows how to make a song interesting when he wants to.

PurpleChi said:

amorbella said:

Don't get me wrong--I understood your point to begin with, but let's also remember that Manuela started "working" for Prince while Prince and Mayte were still married. Remember she was in the "Come On" video, which was released in 1998 (before the divorce). Also in 1998, Prince purchased a home in Spain and more or less left Mayte there for the remainder of their marriage. I agree that Prince was quite vocal about how he felt about Mayte during their marriage, and it was beautiful to witness. However, there are always two sides to a story. We don't know how everything actually unfolded. Prince is a songwriter. He knows how to make a song interesting when he wants to.

prodigalfan said:

Some people's timelines are all wrong.

New Power Soul CD came out in 1998. Prince and Mayte were married in 1996 and their son died in late 1996.

so in about 18 months after their child died... Prince was thanking Manuella on his New Power Soul CD. The same woman who became his wife after he divorced Mayte.

I dunno, but I have to think that to get a "thanks" from Prince on a CD... you had to be pretty important to him.... not someone you just met.

Mayte wasn't seen with Tommy until 2000. 2 years after Prince is thanking the woman who later became his wife.

Thanks for pointing that out. You posted your message while I was still typing mine. Like I said, there are two sides to that story. And I don't think Prince was completely innocent. I was talking to some fellow Prince fan-friends a couple of months ago about how Manuela was Prince's assistant while Mayte was still his wife. I told them that there would be no way Manuela could walk in my house claiming to be my husband's assistant. I would tell her thanks for her services, but they are no longer needed. But then again, Mayte was very young at the time, so maybe she didn't know how to handle the situation. And then again, maybe she attempted to handle it, but Prince overruled her. You never know.

but just for old times sake

:sigh:

Now back to mayte

Mayte - so beautiful and sweet.. she was the perfect Prince-wife.

I really liked when she was shakin that ass, on stage.. and, the "7" video is fantastic,

I just love Mayte.....

too sad about their lost child.

PurpleChi said:

prodigalfan said:

Some people's timelines are all wrong.

New Power Soul CD came out in 1998. Prince and Mayte were married in 1996 and their son died in late 1996.

so in about 18 months after their child died... Prince was thanking Manuella on his New Power Soul CD. The same woman who became his wife after he divorced Mayte.

I dunno, but I have to think that to get a "thanks" from Prince on a CD... you had to be pretty important to him.... not someone you just met.

Mayte wasn't seen with Tommy until 2000. 2 years after Prince is thanking the woman who later became his wife.

Thanks for pointing that out. You posted your message while I was still typing mine. Like I said, there are two sides to that story. And I don't think Prince was completely innocent. I was talking to some fellow Prince fan-friends a couple of months ago about how Manuela was Prince's assistant while Mayte was still his wife. I told them that there would be no way Manuela could walk in my house claiming to be my husband's assistant. I would tell her thanks for her services, but they are no longer needed. But then again, Mayte was very young at the time, so maybe she didn't know how to handle the situation. And then again, maybe she attempted to handle it, but Prince overruled her. You never know.

This is what I think happened. She probably tried but Prince holds all the cards in his relationships. His way or the highway. She propbably tried but was put in her place. And then she probably hoped it would pass... but unlike a lot of men... Prince actually wifed his mistress. Most men like Kobe, Tiger... they don't wife mistress. Those women actually divorced their husbands because the cheating became too much for them. In Mayte's case... she was dropped off in Spain and Mani got interior decorators to remodel Paisley Place. Now as the woman of the manor... the wife... how would that sit with you to hear through the grapevine that your husband's assistant had your favorite wallpaper ripped down and had your closets redesigned.
Without your input or persmission or knowledge. Yeah right... an assistant whose looks are similar to you. Cafe mocha skin coloring... your age, you hair type.

Please.

nursev said:

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This picture where Prince has his arm draped across Mayte's leg/thigh... was so intimate and familiar.... I never saw that same sort of affectionate embrace with any woman before or since.

Prince and Mayte really seemed like the real deal. No putting on for the public. That was his WOMAN and you knew it... everybody did.

These other relationships... it is a big question mark... are they? Aren't they?

No question with Mayte. It showed in their body language.

If Mani was not his wife... it would have been a question mark as well. because he never showed anymore public affection for Mani as he did for Bria.

we will never know the whole story... just stories from those people around them, and what they say in public- which still may not be the whole story... but its really none of our business.

not defending anyone... but its possible that she might have done some dirt to him, and he is unforgiving. no one owes any one anything. past is past, people move on.

i loved seeing them together, too... just watch old stuff. that is a chapter in his book of life.

and welcome.

it's true what you've heard... but there are some cool people, and lots of good info... and you might even meet some "orgers" at concerts like i did in line in vegas for 3121! very cool! aisle C.

http://prince.org/msg/7/40920?pr

An old thread with some sad, but interesting replies. #35 says a lot-so much to the story of these two people that most of us will never know. Just hope they are in a better place about this matter and I wish them happiness. Mani on the other hand is another story.

prodigalfan said:

I agree I never saw that kind of connection between him and mani. Every time you saw them in public it was like they were just going through the motions. Some people may not remember this, but back in like early 2001 or so I was listening to tom joyner's show and I remember him saying that prince was moving to canada to be with his pregnant wife mani-what happened to that supposed child? Other's may not recall that, but I do cuz it shocked me when he said. Manuela has alotta dirt on her hands and so does prince.

Also, while I'm on the subject has anybody else ever wondered why both of his ex wives ended up with men who had rumours going around about their sexual activities? We all know about Tommy but then mani gets with a supposed sex addict who was eric-it's all interesting and maybe says something about the man and his relationships with these two women. Just a thought.

nursev said:

Also, while I'm on the subject has anybody else ever wondered why both of his ex wives ended up with men who had rumours going around about their sexual activities? We all know about Tommy but then mani gets with a supposed sex addict who was eric-it's all interesting and maybe says something about the man and his relationships with these two women. Just a thought.

"He's So Dull"

nursev said:

prodigalfan said:

This picture where Prince has his arm draped across Mayte's leg/thigh... was so intimate and familiar.... I never saw that same sort of affectionate embrace with any woman before or since.

Prince and Mayte really seemed like the real deal. No putting on for the public. That was his WOMAN and you knew it... everybody did.

These other relationships... it is a big question mark... are they? Aren't they?

No question with Mayte. It showed in their body language.

If Mani was not his wife... it would have been a question mark as well. because he never showed anymore public affection for Mani as he did for Bria.

I agree I never saw that kind of connection between him and mani. Every time you saw them in public it was like they were just going through the motions. Some people may not remember this, but back in like early 2001 or so I was listening to tom joyner's show and I remember him saying that prince was moving to canada to be with his pregnant wife mani-what happened to that supposed child? Other's may not recall that, but I do cuz it shocked me when he said. Manuela has alotta dirt on her hands and so does prince.

wow Nurse, this is like the whole Janet Jackson baby rumor. I remember reading newstories about Janet being in "the family way". And then nothing... and a lot people don't remember.

so just on that fact alone... I believe you did hear this.

I had heard from someone in "Mani's camp" say that Mani had tried to have a baby with Prince but that she miscarried.
This was told in response to someone questioned Mani's sincerity to Prince when she filed for divorce... someone pointed to the fact that Mani didn't really love Prince... was a gold digger and she never even tried to have baby with him.

This person responded to those charges with the information that Mani had a miscarriage and Prince had to locked her out of the house which prompted her to file for divorce

nursev said:

Also, while I'm on the subject has anybody else ever wondered why both of his ex wives ended up with men who had rumours going around about their sexual activities? We all know about Tommy but then mani gets with a supposed sex addict who was eric-it's all interesting and maybe says something about the man and his relationships with these two women. Just a thought.

nursev said:

http://prince.org/msg/7/40920?pr An old thread with some sad, but interesting replies. #35 says a lot-so much to the story of these two people that most of us will never know. Just hope they are in a better place about this matter and I wish them happiness. Mani on the other hand is another story.

wow that's a good gossipy-30 minute-read thread.(probably full of speculation and not absolute facts) But I'll save it for when im really bored.

For Prodigal and Baby: I believe that mani either miscarried or faked being pregnant just to get him to marry her. If she miscarried then as a nurse that brings other questions to my mind cuz that'd be the second child that he lost? Genetics? Maybe something is genetically wrong there? Also, both of these women got with men with widely publicized sexual activities, mani even went on to have a baby successfully. So that tells me the problem is him not the ladies. You know what they say, people that talk/sing about that subject a lot are usually lackening in that area. I will always be a prince fan, but if what was in that thread about his treatment of pregnant mayte was true then he really does have some dirt on his hands.
[Edited 12/29/11 12:00pm]

nursev said:

For Prodigal and Baby: I believe that mani either miscarried or faked being pregnant just to get him to marry her. If she miscarried then as a nurse that brings other questions to my mind cuz that'd be the second child that he lost? Genetics? Maybe something is genetically wrong there? Also, both of these women married men with widely publicized sexual activities, mani even went on to have a baby successfully. So that tells me the problem is him not the ladies. You know what they say, people that talk/sing about that subject a lot are usually lackening in that area. I will always be a prince fan, but if what was in that thread about his treatment of pregnant mayte was true then he really does have some dirt on his hands.

she miscarried why would she fake it when she worked hard to marry him? I believe that much. Mayte can have the same gift, but maybe she still has feelings for Prince or doesn't like anyone as much

You ever read about what girls say sleeping with Prince is like? I read a lot on that subject and Mayte said they never did anything kinkier than onstage. Oh snap!

babyjubilation said:

Truly I believe that she miscarried and it was all downhill after that fromsomeone on the outside looking in I believe that he cannot have a healthy, viable child :zip: and imma leave that alone. You know as a prince fan I am saddened by that and hoping it's not true. He is such a genius and has brought joy to many through his music. As for the sexual things imma hold on to good thoughts

I don't understand why some of you guys take Prince's lyrics to heart all the time. Just because he's singing about someone cheating on him in ILUBIDTUA doesn't mean shit. How many times has he sung about his lover doing him wrong? ALWAYS! It has ALWAYS been the girl's fault in a relationship in his songs throughout his whole career, and he's always been the innocent victim who just wants to love them for life. Awwww...NOT! We all know he's the biggest dog/playa out there. Let's look at a couple of the "victim" songs, shall we?

When You Were Mine

Irresistible Bitch

Horny Toad

Come On

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad

Dark

I Hate U

Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)

Do U Lie?

And these are just off the top of my head. He's always going to make himself out to be the victim or the innocent one in his songs because it plays up his "romantic, loving" side for all the women. And it's also why he makes his women sign confidentiality agreements so they don't spill the beans on how he REALLY is in a "relationship".

nursev said:

For Prodigal and Baby: I believe that mani either miscarried or faked being pregnant just to get him to marry her. If she miscarried then as a nurse that brings other questions to my mind cuz that'd be the second child that he lost? Genetics? Maybe something is genetically wrong there? Also, both of these women got with men with widely publicized sexual activities, mani even went on to have a baby successfully. So that tells me the problem is him not the ladies. You know what they say, people that talk/sing about that subject a lot are usually lackening in that area. I will always be a prince fan, but if what was in that thread about his treatment of pregnant mayte was true then he really does have some dirt on his hands. [Edited 12/29/11 12:00pm]

I read that thread. It was really sad. And if it is true... my hat is off to Prince. Really it is. It shows that this public image stuff is show... and his mama raised him right.

To make that difficult but adult decision to let nature take its course with baby is very hard to do and many people can't make that decision alone. They wait until the hospital go to court and gain guardianship in order to stop futile extraordinary treatment.

and to get the nannies to help him help Mayte to face the cold harsh reality....

Gosh.... I couldn't imagine experiencing that terrible terrible thing... and I pray I never do.

It is because of this that I don't really criticize Prince for things that happened after this... because he had to be hurting and just trying to cope the best way he knew how. Same for Mayte.

Just a terrible terrible thing. Now Manuela.... that is a whole other story.

^ truth from alex

alexnvrmnd777 said:

I don't understand why some of you guys take Prince's lyrics to heart all the time. Just because he's singing about someone cheating on him in ILUBIDTUA doesn't mean shit. How many times has he sung about his lover doing him wrong? ALWAYS! It has ALWAYS been the girl's fault in a relationship in his songs throughout his whole career, and he's always been the innocent victim who just wants to love them for life. Awwww...NOT! We all know he's the biggest dog/playa out there. Let's look at a couple of the "victim" songs, shall we?

When You Were Mine

Irresistible Bitch

Horny Toad

Come On

Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad

Dark

I Hate U

Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)

Do U Lie?

And these are just off the top of my head. He's always going to make himself out to be the victim or the innocent one in his songs because it plays up his "romantic, loving" side for all the women. And it's also why he makes his women sign confidentiality agreements so they don't spill the beans on how he REALLY is in a "relationship".

wait..you "don't understand why some of you guys take Prince's lyrics to heart all the time" but state:

it's also why he makes his women sign confidentiality agreements so they don't spill the beans on how he REALLY is in a "relationship".

youre just as gossipy/weird etc as everybody else

babyjubilation said:

nursev said:

For Prodigal and Baby: I believe that mani either miscarried or faked being pregnant just to get him to marry her. If she miscarried then as a nurse that brings other questions to my mind cuz that'd be the second child that he lost? Genetics? Maybe something is genetically wrong there? Also, both of these women married men with widely publicized sexual activities, mani even went on to have a baby successfully. So that tells me the problem is him not the ladies. You know what they say, people that talk/sing about that subject a lot are usually lackening in that area. I will always be a prince fan, but if what was in that thread about his treatment of pregnant mayte was true then he really does have some dirt on his hands.

she miscarried why would she fake it when she worked hard to marry him? I believe that much. Mayte can have the same gift, but maybe she still has feelings for Prince or doesn't like anyone as much

You ever read about what girls say sleeping with Prince is like? I read a lot on that subject and Mayte said they never did anything kinkier than onstage. Oh snap!

Well think about who we are talking about. Prince was born in the 50s, in the midwest and was raised by a church going woman who went to Seventh day Advetist church.

It was written that he and andre was dipping in the well as teens... but still that is not out of ordinary. So it doesn't surprise me to hear that in real life Prince was more into vanilla sexual relations. Truthfully he doesn't seem to be kinky... he just has a hard time saying "no" to what is offered to him.